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Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:45 -0400, mm
wrote: Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. I worked as a construction engineer and that's the only thing I've ever heard it called. I'm sure there are brand names, though, but still, construction workers are an earthy lot. On the other hand I see at http://www.hooverfence.com/tools/come-a-long.htm that they are referenced as "come-a-longs" but are called "power pulls", a misnomer it would seem to me, since they are hadn operated. http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html calls them "come along winches". -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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"mm" wrote in message
Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. A come-along is a hand operated ratchet lever winch. A winch is a mechanical device used to wind a rope or cable, while a ratchet is a mechanical brake that keeps the line from unwinding. From : http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-come-along.htm I have only heard of it as a come-along, but have seen them for sale as "manual ratchet winches" with pictures, so I could understand they were the item in question. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...&btnG=Sea rch |
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On Oct 20, 5:11*pm, mm wrote:
Is there another word for a come-along? *That word sounds like slang or vernacular. Maybe it's slang, but if you DAGS come-along, that's what everyone calls it. The only place I didn't see that term used was he http://www.nextag.com/AMERICAN-POWER...95/prices-html Even http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/come+along calls it a come-along. |
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mm wrote:
Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. "Winch" however "winch" is more generic. -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. What a straight line! Lim time..... A bather whose clothing was strewed, By breezes that left her quite nude. Saw a man come along, And, unless I am quite wrong, You expected this line to be lewd. and.... A blond airline stewardess, Faye, Has achieved quite a record today. She screwed without quittin' From New York to Britain, It's clear she has come a long way. and... Said Marie with a look of some pain, "I've biked over quite rough terrain." "Though I enjoyed every ounce, Of each jiggle and bounce, I won't come (along) this way again!" *************** No less an authority than the ubiquitous Harbor Freight calls them this: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=30329 And also this: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=95541 Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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: Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. If you're talking about the winch-type thing that exerts steady, slow pressure on a cable, strap, or chain in order to move an item or object attached to the other end of the chain. strap, or cable, the other word is "winch". But you've been involved in this group long enough to know that context is often very helpful. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:45 -0400, mm
wrote Re come-along: s there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. I just call them a "hand winch". IMO much more descriptive of what they do, than "come-along" etc. |
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"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message ... Said Marie with a look of some pain, "I've biked over quite rough terrain." "Though I enjoyed every ounce, Of each jiggle and bounce, I won't come (along) this way again!" Reminds me of this: Two Dutch girls are riding their old rickety bikes down the back streets of Amsterdam one late afternoon. As it turns closer towards dusk, the increasing darkness of the streets starts making the two girls a little nervous when one girl leans over to the other and says, "You know, I've never come this way before." The other girl nods and says, "It's the cobblestones." |
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On Oct 20, 5:11*pm, mm wrote:
Is there another word for a come-along? *That word sounds like slang or vernacular. OK... Now that we've got the name of the device figured out, how about a long line of "Best Use Of A Come-Along" stories... It was 1973 and I was stationed at the Coast Guard base on Governor's Island, NY. While driving around Queens one night I came upon a flooded section of road, lost control of my car and slid sideways into a fire hydrant. This 4-door Dodge was of the style that had a "half-post" between the front and rear door. I hit the hydrant right at the post, bending it in until it was pressing against the side of the driver's front seat. The front and rear doors both popped open and obviously wouldn't close. The rear door was sitting at this weird angle since it was attached to the bent post. I drove back to the base with the doors part-way open and roped in place. The next morning I went over to the maintenance shop for the bouy tenders that were stationed at the base. I grabbed a come-along and some chain and drove up next to a 10,000 lb bouy sinker. I hooked one end the chain to the bouy sinker's loop and the other end to the post in my car and started cranking on the come-along. The car started leaning towards me without the post even moving, so I wedged some large hunks of wood under the frame. This kept the car upright and within a few minutes the post was upright and both doors open and closed normally. Other than the hole the hydrant punched in the rear door, you never know I hit anything. |
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I've also heard flatworkers call these come alongs....
http://tinyurl.com/5dvnsh s "mm" wrote in message ... Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:15:16 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Oct 20, 5:11*pm, mm wrote: Is there another word for a come-along? *That word sounds like slang or vernacular. OK... Now that we've got the name of the device figured out, how about a long line of "Best Use Of A Come-Along" stories... It was 1973 and I was stationed at the Coast Guard base on Governor's Island, NY. While driving around Queens one night I came upon a flooded section of road, lost control of my car and slid sideways into a fire hydrant. This 4-door Dodge was of the style that had a "half-post" between the front and rear door. I hit the hydrant right at the post, bending it in until it was pressing against the side of the driver's front seat. The front and rear doors both popped open and obviously wouldn't close. The rear door was sitting at this weird angle since it was attached to the bent post. I drove back to the base with the doors part-way open and roped in place. The next morning I went over to the maintenance shop for the bouy tenders that were stationed at the base. I grabbed a come-along and some chain and drove up next to a 10,000 lb bouy sinker. I hooked one end the chain to the bouy sinker's loop and the other end to the post in my car and started cranking on the come-along. The car started leaning towards me without the post even moving, so I wedged some large hunks of wood under the frame. This kept the car upright and within a few minutes the post was upright and both doors open and closed normally. Other than the hole the hydrant punched in the rear door, you never know I hit anything. I love your story. Congratualations. It reminds me of the gypsy bodymen in NY, Brooklyn at least. Prices are based on 20 years ago. The body shop would have charged me at least 500 dollars to straighten the trunk lid and the part below that so that the trunk would close and latch. All I had to do was park to see my friend in Brooklyn, and a couple guys volunteered to do it and paint it for 50, or maybe it was 75. And in about 10 minutes that had it straightened out, closing, latching and locking as good as could be. Any more improvement would have involved Bondo, which was not part of our deal. I thought I would never forget the details, but I guess they must have used a come-along attached to fire hydrant or parking meter, or maybe it was attached to part of their truck or car, because nothing else would have worked. I naivey thought they would buy the duplicolor paint, but they just got a can of similar paint, so I stopped them. I was very happy that the trunk locked, rather than use a chain that left it open a foot! I knew I didn't want to spend the money on an old car that I would have been charged in Baltimore, and waited till I got to Brooklyn where I figured such guys would find me, and they did, almost as soon as I parked. This might have been a weekend, and conceivably the two guys worked in a real body shop during the week. At least they seemed good enough. My own best story is today's, and the reason I wanted to know if there was a more standard word was that I didn't want to be accused of dropping big words my friends have no way of knowing, if there is a more standard word that come-along. (After your answers, I don't think there is, but I am now free to say winch, or hand winch (my own composite term) if they really don't know what a come-along is. (Come-along is much more clear and specific than winch, for people who know the word.) Anyhow, for the third time in 16 years, my convertile top has shrunk and won't latch. It might have latchedon a 90 degree day, which we had in September, but that would have meant not being able to put the top down for the last month, many beautiful days. So I've been putting it down most of the time for the last month, but occasionally it's too cold for that to be comfortable, and I have to have it 4 inches above the windshield with the cold air blowing in. And it's going to rain more soon, which means the rain blowing in if I drive then. And the colder it gets the harder it will be to latch, probalby. So today, as I did 16 and 15 falls ago, I went to a particular shopping center parking lot, where they have three 6" posts, about 4 feet tall, that are there to keep cars from backing into the fire hydrant, wrapped the cable around the post, and put the other hook on the part of the of the top mechanism that is right behind the rear side window, and cranked until I could latch one side. Then I moved the car to the other side and did the other side. The first time I did this 16 years ago, it took about 15 minutes each side. I think I went on a Sunday when many stores are closed and few police are around. The next time, 15 years ago, it took me 5 minutes each time. This time, I was slowed because I broke my arm 7 weeks ago, and it hurts like hell to do certain things. But I went on a Monday at 3:45, didn't rush at all, loads of people around, it took 15 minutes for each side**, and nobody minded. **It took a little longer because this car has an inner cloth roof, which is velcroed and plastic body plugged (riveted?) to the metal piece behind the side window. And it was probably 4 minutes on each side to pull out both plugs and remove and later put the whole thing back. I left my arm brace on in case a cop came by, I thought I could get more sympathy. It really was harder to do things with the weak, painful, to let out extra cable, to release the tension when I was done. It looks like nothing can stretch. The vinyl top does't appear to be stretching. I think maybe the whole car bent when I did this. Because the only thing holding the front of a convertible to the back is the floor, and whatever unibody and reinforcing there is in the floor. I know that once I had one of those cargo carriers behind the little trailer hitch and I put 16 pieces of damp sod on the back and the car bent so much I couldn't close the doors. Maybe if I'd closed the doors first and climbed over the door to get in it would have worked, but seemed prudent by then to put half of the sod in the back seat. |
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On Oct 20, 8:58*pm, mm wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:15:16 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Oct 20, 5:11*pm, mm wrote: Is there another word for a come-along? *That word sounds like slang or vernacular. OK... Now that we've got the name of the device figured out, how about a long line of "Best Use Of A Come-Along" stories... It was 1973 and I was stationed at the Coast Guard base on Governor's Island, NY. *While driving around Queens one night I came upon a flooded section of road, lost control of my car and slid sideways into a fire hydrant. This 4-door Dodge was of the style that had a "half-post" between the front and rear door. I hit the hydrant right at the post, bending it in until it was pressing against the side of the driver's front seat. The front and rear doors both popped open and obviously wouldn't close. The rear door was sitting at this weird angle since it was attached to the bent post. I drove back to the base with the doors part-way open and roped in place. The next morning I went over to the maintenance shop for the bouy tenders that were stationed at the base. I grabbed a come-along and some chain and drove up next to a 10,000 lb bouy sinker. I hooked one end the chain to the bouy sinker's loop and the other end to the post in my car and started cranking on the come-along. The car started leaning towards me without the post even moving, so I wedged some large hunks of wood under the frame. This kept the car upright and within a few minutes the post was upright and both doors open and closed normally. Other than the hole the hydrant punched in the rear door, you never know I hit anything. I love your story. *Congratualations. * It reminds me of the gypsy bodymen in NY, Brooklyn at least. *Prices are based on 20 years ago. *The body shop would have charged me at least 500 dollars to straighten the trunk lid and the part below that so that the trunk would close and latch. *All I had to do was park to see my friend in Brooklyn, and a couple guys volunteered to do it and paint it for 50, or maybe it was 75. * *And in about 10 minutes that had it straightened out, closing, latching and locking as good as could be. *Any more improvement would have involved Bondo, which was not part of our deal. *I thought I would never forget the details, but I guess they must have used a come-along attached to fire hydrant or parking meter, or maybe it was attached to part of their truck or car, because nothing else would have worked. I naivey thought they would buy the duplicolor paint, but they just got a can of similar paint, so I stopped them. *I was very happy that the trunk locked, rather than use a chain that left it open a foot! I knew I didn't want to spend the money on an old car that I would have been charged in Baltimore, and waited till I got to Brooklyn where I figured such guys would find me, and they did, almost as soon as I parked. * This might have been a weekend, and conceivably the two guys worked in a real body shop during the week. *At least they seemed good enough. My own best story is today's, and the reason I wanted to know if there was a more standard word was that I didn't want to be accused of dropping big words my friends have no way of knowing, if there is a more standard word that come-along. * (After your answers, I don't think there is, but I am now free to say winch, or hand winch (my own composite term) if they really don't know what a come-along is. (Come-along is much more clear and specific than winch, for people who know the word.) Anyhow, for the third time in 16 years, my convertile top has shrunk and won't latch. *It might have latchedon a 90 degree day, which we had in September, but that would have meant not being able to put the top down for the last month, many beautiful days. So I've been putting it down most of the time for the last month, but occasionally it's too cold for that to be comfortable, and I have to have it 4 inches above the windshield with the cold air blowing in. And it's going to rain more soon, which means the rain blowing in if I drive then. *And the colder it gets the harder it will be to latch, probalby. So today, as I did 16 and 15 falls ago, I went to a particular shopping center parking lot, where they have three 6" posts, about 4 feet tall, that are there to keep cars from backing into the fire hydrant, wrapped the cable around the post, and put the other hook on the part of the of the top mechanism that is right behind the rear side window, and cranked until I could latch one side. *Then I moved the car to the other side and did the other side. The first time I did this 16 years ago, it took about 15 minutes each side. * I think I went on a Sunday when many stores are closed and few police are around. *The next time, 15 years ago, it took me 5 minutes each time. This time, I was slowed because I broke my arm 7 weeks ago, and it hurts like hell to do certain things. *But I went on a Monday at 3:45, didn't rush at all, loads of people around, it took 15 minutes for each side**, and nobody minded. * **It took a little longer because this car has an inner cloth roof, which is velcroed and plastic body plugged (riveted?) to the metal piece behind the side window. And it was probably 4 minutes on each side to pull out both plugs and remove and later put the whole thing back. * *I left my arm brace on in case a cop came by, I thought I could get more sympathy. *It really was harder to do things with the weak, painful, to let out extra cable, to release the tension when I was done. It looks like nothing can stretch. *The vinyl top does't appear to be stretching. *I think maybe the whole car bent when I did this. Because the only thing holding the front of a convertible to the back is the floor, and whatever unibody and reinforcing there is in the floor. * * I know that once I had one of those cargo carriers behind the little trailer hitch and I put 16 pieces of damp sod on the back and the car bent so much I couldn't close the doors. *Maybe if I'd closed the doors first and climbed over the door to get in it would have worked, but seemed prudent by then to put half of the sod in the back seat.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - While your story about fixing the convertible top is interesting, the part about the damaged trunk doesn't count because you are not sure if a come-along was used in the original repair. Perhaps you could go back to Brooklyn, look around for one of those 55 gallon drums with the fires burning inside and ask some of the older patrons if they ever did body work when they were younger and had more teeth. I doubt you'd be able to tell by any paint stained hands 'cuz duplicolor paint pretty much sucks and would have worn off not only their hands, but your car also. I know the area pretty well, so if you want, I could come-along. |
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"Hatunen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:45 -0400, mm wrote: Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. I worked as a construction engineer and that's the only thing I've ever heard it called. I'm sure there are brand names, though, but still, construction workers are an earthy lot. On the other hand I see at http://www.hooverfence.com/tools/come-a-long.htm that they are referenced as "come-a-longs" but are called "power pulls", a misnomer it would seem to me, since they are hadn operated. http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html calls them "come along winches". -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * I have seen devices known as chain hoists, but because of their chain having to engage in mated channels, they were usually used in a vertical application only. But we did use them in a horizontal application in the oilfield in a pinch because they were stonger than come alongs. You just had to have someone watch the chain feeding into the device, and to watch their fingers, too. Steve |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:29:40 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas
wrote: "Hatunen" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:45 -0400, mm wrote: Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. I worked as a construction engineer and that's the only thing I've ever heard it called. I'm sure there are brand names, though, but still, construction workers are an earthy lot. On the other hand I see at http://www.hooverfence.com/tools/come-a-long.htm that they are referenced as "come-a-longs" but are called "power pulls", a misnomer it would seem to me, since they are hadn operated. http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html calls them "come along winches". -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * I have seen devices known as chain hoists, but because of their chain having to engage in mated channels, they were usually used in a vertical application only. But we did use them in a horizontal application in the oilfield in a pinch because they were stonger than come alongs. You just had to have someone watch the chain feeding into the device, and to watch their fingers, too. Steve Two of the three come-alongs that Jeff points out are sold at Harbor Freight, have in their ads, "For dead loads only; not for lifting." I don't quite know why but that makes them the opposite of the chain hoist you describe. |
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On Oct 20, 4:11*pm, mm wrote:
Is there another word for a come-along? *That word sounds like slang or vernacular. I remember hearing the term 'jack-off' machine when I worked in the machine shop. Lewis. ***** |
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Cable hoist, I've heard.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "mm" wrote in message ... Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. |
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 23:35:36 -0400, mm wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 19:29:40 -0800, "SteveB" toquerville@zionvistas wrote: "Hatunen" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:11:45 -0400, mm wrote: Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. I worked as a construction engineer and that's the only thing I've ever heard it called. I'm sure there are brand names, though, but still, construction workers are an earthy lot. On the other hand I see at http://www.hooverfence.com/tools/come-a-long.htm that they are referenced as "come-a-longs" but are called "power pulls", a misnomer it would seem to me, since they are hadn operated. http://www.cvfsupplycompany.com/hanpowpulcom.html calls them "come along winches". -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * I have seen devices known as chain hoists, but because of their chain having to engage in mated channels, they were usually used in a vertical application only. But we did use them in a horizontal application in the oilfield in a pinch because they were stonger than come alongs. You just had to have someone watch the chain feeding into the device, and to watch their fingers, too. Steve Two of the three come-alongs that Jeff points out are sold at Harbor Freight, have in their ads, "For dead loads only; not for lifting." I don't quite know why but that makes them the opposite of the chain hoist you describe. I believe what SteveB is talking about are some times called "come alongs" but are higher rated and use chain. I have owned these two for over forty years. They have been used and abused but use a brake mechicism to lock the ratchet and can be lifted or lowered in fine incriments as used to align bolt holes on heavy objects. Save loosing a finger. I don't care what you want to call them. They work vertical or horizontal but as stated "care" must be used horizontally. http://s370.photobucket.com/albums/o...t=s7001393.jpg |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 00:51:04 +0200 (CEST), Barbara Bailey
wrote: mm wrote in : Is there another word for a come-along? That word sounds like slang or vernacular. If you're talking about the winch-type thing that exerts steady, slow pressure on a cable, strap, or chain in order to move an item or object attached to the other end of the chain. strap, or cable, the other word is "winch". As someone else pointed out, "winch" is a little too general; it includes those electrically driven winches on the front of Land Rovers, for instance. A pipefitter can't go to the tool checkout and requisiton a "winch"; it doesn't tell the attendant what he really wants. He will get just what he wants if he writes "come-a-long" on the requistion form. But you've been involved in this group long enough to know that context is often very helpful. The whole point of using the term "come-a-long" in the field is to avoid long discussions of context. "A ratchet driven non-rotating hand operated winch" is just too much. No one in the field in an occupation using come-a-longs needs andy context to understand the term. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:25:44 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Cable hoist, I've heard. Come-a-longs aren't always used in vertical hoisting operations. A lot of them are simply used at some crazy angle to pull a pipe into alignment for welding, for isntance. I've probably seen as many come-a-longs used horizonatlly as vertically. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:53 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:25:44 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Cable hoist, I've heard. Come-a-longs aren't always used in vertical hoisting operations. A lot of them are simply used at some crazy angle to pull a pipe into alignment for welding, for isntance. I've probably seen as many come-a-longs used horizonatlly as vertically. I used one last summer. I helped a friend install a chain-link fence in his yard. We used a come-along - horizontally - to pull the fence tight at each post. Chain-link doesn't pull easily. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:58:06 -0700, Hatunen wrote:
The whole point of using the term "come-a-long" in the field is to avoid long discussions of context. "A ratchet driven non-rotating hand operated winch" is just too much. No one in the field in an occupation using come-a-longs needs andy context to understand the term. In British English this appears to be a "Hand Puller (Winch)": http://www.autow.co.uk/winches/hand_...rices_137.html http://www.ttclifting.co.uk/lifting/..._p-series.html -- Peter Duncanson, UK (in alt.english.usage) |
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"tony cooper" wrote in message
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:53 -0700, Hatunen wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:25:44 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Cable hoist, I've heard. Come-a-longs aren't always used in vertical hoisting operations. A lot of them are simply used at some crazy angle to pull a pipe into alignment for welding, for isntance. I've probably seen as many come-a-longs used horizonatlly as vertically. I used one last summer. I helped a friend install a chain-link fence in his yard. We used a come-along - horizontally - to pull the fence tight at each post. Chain-link doesn't pull easily. http://www.nextag.com/wire-stretcher/search-html Can't find the simple stretcher we used for barbed wire yet (had some cousins, Bob and Barb Weier), but the images on the above site show block and tackle, and really describe the come-along, too. http://www.afence.com/BekaertBrochure.html The tightening tool mentioned low down on this page gives "come-along" as an alternative name. |
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tony cooper wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:53 -0700, Hatunen wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:25:44 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Cable hoist, I've heard. Come-a-longs aren't always used in vertical hoisting operations. A lot of them are simply used at some crazy angle to pull a pipe into alignment for welding, for isntance. I've probably seen as many come-a-longs used horizonatlly as vertically. I used one last summer. I helped a friend install a chain-link fence in his yard. We used a come-along - horizontally - to pull the fence tight at each post. Chain-link doesn't pull easily. I think the last time I used one of my collection of different types of come alongs was a couple of years ago when the ledger board on our home's deck became rotten to the core because the sods who built the place about 18 years earler didn't bother spending a few extra bucks for a piece of pressure treated lumber. We put temporary props under the deck, disconnected the joists from the ledger board and swapped in a new PT ledger board. I used a come along to pull on the deck so the joists were held firmly back in contact with the ledger while we fastened a new set of hanger brackets in place. A padded piece of 2x6 across the inside of a fortuitously located open window provided a handy place to pull against. http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/temp/deck004.jpg Scurrilous coments about using a car bumper jack to adjust the level of the center part of the deck will be ignored. "Pretty is as pretty does." Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 13:42:49 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: tony cooper wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 18:00:53 -0700, Hatunen wrote: On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:25:44 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Cable hoist, I've heard. Come-a-longs aren't always used in vertical hoisting operations. A lot of them are simply used at some crazy angle to pull a pipe into alignment for welding, for isntance. I've probably seen as many come-a-longs used horizonatlly as vertically. I used one last summer. I helped a friend install a chain-link fence in his yard. We used a come-along - horizontally - to pull the fence tight at each post. Chain-link doesn't pull easily. I think the last time I used one of my collection of different types of come alongs was a couple of years ago when the ledger board on our home's deck became rotten to the core because the sods who built the place about 18 years earler didn't bother spending a few extra bucks for a piece of pressure treated lumber. We put temporary props under the deck, disconnected the joists from the ledger board and swapped in a new PT ledger board. I used a come along to pull on the deck so the joists were held firmly back in contact with the ledger while we fastened a new set of hanger brackets in place. A padded piece of 2x6 across the inside of a fortuitously located open window provided a handy place to pull against. http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/temp/deck004.jpg Fortuitous is the right word. If I'd been doing that, my luck is such that the window would have been closed. Is that you or a little Wisnia in the picture? Scurrilous coments about using a car bumper jack to adjust the level of the center part of the deck will be ignored. "Pretty is as pretty does." Jeff My last 3 cars haven't been able to use a bumper jack, but I still saved the one from my Buick for who knows what I''ll need it for? It is amazing how many uses a come-along has. Beside latching my convertible top three years now, I've used it several times. One was the classic example of straightening a fence post. My gate was rubbing on the sidewalk, so I unnailed the rails and ran the come-along cable from the post the gate hung on to the next post . I crancke the handle, but the post wouldn't move. So I ran the garden hose for 10 minutes and the post moved fine. The posts were 4" round wood ones, and in answer to someone's comment, that time, or when I ran the cable around something even smaller, I sort of kinked the cable**, but so far it hasn't given me any problem. Maybe I wrapped it up on the spool and let it sit for a year, don't remember. **The ones that use chains won't have that problem of course, but mine was very cheap, under 20 dollars. I left a little grey line on two of those posts, but you have to get withing 6 feet to see it, and no one will ever notice. The paint is pitted with brown spots, looking like little volcanos, all over the yellow posts. I think 15 years ago the paint was a lot better. |
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My last 3 cars haven't been able to use a bumper jack, but I still saved the one from my Buick for who knows what I''ll need it for? Heh! Don't use it on a bumper! Modern bumpers are designed to come off. Or crumple. Or just die of shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQPs5QcxQs |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:25 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote: mm wrote: My last 3 cars haven't been able to use a bumper jack, but I still saved the one from my Buick for who knows what I''ll need it for? Heh! Don't use it on a bumper! Modern bumpers are designed to come off. Or crumple. Or just die of shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQPs5QcxQs And a Jeep, no less. Doubly humiliating. I guess if they attached the chain to the axle, they might have ripped off the axle. Probably have to attach it to both axles, or both ends of both axles. I got stuck in the sand once at Breezy Point, or whatever is west of Riis Park on a barrier island at the end of Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn. Everything was fine until I slowed down. (from 20 or 25mph to 10) I looked around and saw 2 or 3 rusted hulks of cars, from when the tide came in and covered the cars with salt-water. Or at least a foot deep. After I tried for a while, I saw a guy on the sand with a Jeep or pickup and asked him to tow me out. He refused. I tried more of the same. I tried rocking the car. No good. I let air out of my rear tires, but it didn't help. This was before cell phones. I thought of walking back to the last gas station. It was 2 or 3 miles and I didn't know if the tide was going out or coming in. I had a girl with me at the time, and I'm sure she was impressed, although that was the least of my worries. 30 or 45 minutes after I asked him, the guy came over and towed me to a place where the sand was shallow and there was firm dirt under the sand. I think he just wanted me to sweat a bit so I wouldn't do it again. I think he said that. He wouldn't take money. This was back when cars were cars. It was probably a '67 Pontiac Catalina. convertible. |
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On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:25 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: mm wrote: My last 3 cars haven't been able to use a bumper jack, but I still saved the one from my Buick for who knows what I''ll need it for? Heh! Don't use it on a bumper! Modern bumpers are designed to come off. Or crumple. Or just die of shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQPs5QcxQs And a Jeep, no less. Doubly humiliating. I guess if they attached the chain to the axle, they might have ripped off the axle. Probably have to attach it to both axles, or both ends of both axles. I got stuck in the sand once at Breezy Point, or whatever is west of Riis Park on a barrier island at the end of Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn. Everything was fine until I slowed down. (from 20 or 25mph to 10) I looked around and saw 2 or 3 rusted hulks of cars, from when the tide came in and covered the cars with salt-water. Or at least a foot deep. After I tried for a while, I saw a guy on the sand with a Jeep or pickup and asked him to tow me out. He refused. I tried more of the same. I tried rocking the car. No good. I let air out of my rear tires, but it didn't help. This was before cell phones. I thought of walking back to the last gas station. It was 2 or 3 miles and I didn't know if the tide was going out or coming in. I had a girl with me at the time, and I'm sure she was impressed, although that was the least of my worries. 30 or 45 minutes after I asked him, the guy came over and towed me to a place where the sand was shallow and there was firm dirt under the sand. I think he just wanted me to sweat a bit so I wouldn't do it again. I think he said that. He wouldn't take money. This was back when cars were cars. It was probably a '67 Pontiac Catalina. convertible. I remember the first time I visited Daytona Beach, maybe 40 years ago, and just HAD to try driving my rental car down the beach. Of course I got it stuck in the sand. And, along came a guy with a Jeep and a tow line who got me free and off the beach for IIRC just $5. The thing I never forgot about it was his tow line which was a giant piece of elastic (bungee?) cord maybe 20 feet long unstretched. After attaching it to my car he roared off ahead of me and that damn line looked like it stretched three times its length before my car started moving. I never really understood what principle was involved in the use of an elastic tow line, but I'd be happy to find out here. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:48:21 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: mm wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:25 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: mm wrote: My last 3 cars haven't been able to use a bumper jack, but I still saved the one from my Buick for who knows what I''ll need it for? Heh! Don't use it on a bumper! Modern bumpers are designed to come off. Or crumple. Or just die of shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQPs5QcxQs And a Jeep, no less. Doubly humiliating. I guess if they attached the chain to the axle, they might have ripped off the axle. Probably have to attach it to both axles, or both ends of both axles. I got stuck in the sand once at Breezy Point, or whatever is west of Riis Park on a barrier island at the end of Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn. Everything was fine until I slowed down. (from 20 or 25mph to 10) I looked around and saw 2 or 3 rusted hulks of cars, from when the tide came in and covered the cars with salt-water. Or at least a foot deep. After I tried for a while, I saw a guy on the sand with a Jeep or pickup and asked him to tow me out. He refused. I tried more of the same. I tried rocking the car. No good. I let air out of my rear tires, but it didn't help. This was before cell phones. I thought of walking back to the last gas station. It was 2 or 3 miles and I didn't know if the tide was going out or coming in. I had a girl with me at the time, and I'm sure she was impressed, although that was the least of my worries. 30 or 45 minutes after I asked him, the guy came over and towed me to a place where the sand was shallow and there was firm dirt under the sand. I think he just wanted me to sweat a bit so I wouldn't do it again. I think he said that. He wouldn't take money. This was back when cars were cars. It was probably a '67 Pontiac Catalina. convertible. I remember the first time I visited Daytona Beach, maybe 40 years ago, and just HAD to try driving my rental car down the beach. Of course I got it stuck in the sand. And, along came a guy with a Jeep and a tow line who got me free and off the beach for IIRC just $5. The thing I never forgot about it was his tow line which was a giant piece of elastic (bungee?) cord maybe 20 feet long unstretched. After attaching it to my car he roared off ahead of me and that damn line looked like it stretched three times its length before my car started moving. I never really understood what principle was involved in the use of an elastic tow line, but I'd be happy to find out here. Jeff I might have one of those. I'm not sure. I probably bought it 20 years ago and put it in the big tupperware box in my trunk. I rarely open it, and I've forgotten what exactly is in there. I do know that I have two melmac plates, and 2 forks, 2 spoons, and 2 knives. I've been carrying them for 30 years and only had one occasion to use them. But it was worth it for that one time. I have spare fuses, and a piece of non-electric wire. I used to have a 12 volt floodlight, but I think I had to take it out to make more room. And I have a yellow band (like a tape, 2 inches wide) with big cast hooks at each end, silver colored. I know it is meant for towing, but i forget if it is elastic or not. I know I haven't had occasion to do that in 20 years either, and might not have the nerve even if there was a reason. I'd be afraid once the car behind me took off, it would rear end me. I don't trust the other driver. Well, maybe I will when I know who he is. And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. I used to carry cover-alls to but I lost them when my car was stolen. But I got new sneakers. Once my car broke down between 5th and 6th on 47 or 49 st. in NYC. I was wearing nice leather shoes and didn't want to scratch them when I was lying under the car. (It was about 6:30 PM on a weeknight, and very quiet on that block.) Then I didn't want to damage my socks so I took them off too, and I walked around 47th St. for over an hour, working on the car, going to a pay phone, waiting until a friend brought me parts, and I didn't cut my feet at all, or ever get them very dirty. But I still carry old shoes now. And salt and pepper, whhich I use pretty often. |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:48:21 -0400, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: I remember the first time I visited Daytona Beach, maybe 40 years ago, and just HAD to try driving my rental car down the beach. Of course I got it stuck in the sand. And, along came a guy with a Jeep and a tow line who got me free and off the beach for IIRC just $5. The thing I never forgot about it was his tow line which was a giant piece of elastic (bungee?) cord maybe 20 feet long unstretched. After attaching it to my car he roared off ahead of me and that damn line looked like it stretched three times its length before my car started moving. I never really understood what principle was involved in the use of an elastic tow line, but I'd be happy to find out here. A stretch as far as you describe seems a bit excessive, the reason for using elastic gtwo ropes is to prevent either breakage of the tow rope or ripping off your bumper or whatever due to a sudden shock, for instance, when the towing car gets the rope fully extended and it suddenly jerks on your car. -- ************* DAVE HATUNEN ) ************* * Tucson Arizona, out where the cacti grow * * My typos & mispellings are intentional copyright traps * |
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Hatunen wrote:
On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:48:21 -0400, Jeff Wisnia wrote: I remember the first time I visited Daytona Beach, maybe 40 years ago, and just HAD to try driving my rental car down the beach. Of course I got it stuck in the sand. And, along came a guy with a Jeep and a tow line who got me free and off the beach for IIRC just $5. The thing I never forgot about it was his tow line which was a giant piece of elastic (bungee?) cord maybe 20 feet long unstretched. After attaching it to my car he roared off ahead of me and that damn line looked like it stretched three times its length before my car started moving. I never really understood what principle was involved in the use of an elastic tow line, but I'd be happy to find out here. A stretch as far as you describe seems a bit excessive, the reason for using elastic gtwo ropes is to prevent either breakage of the tow rope or ripping off your bumper or whatever due to a sudden shock, for instance, when the towing car gets the rope fully extended and it suddenly jerks on your car. That akes sense now that I think about it... Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message . .. Hatunen wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:48:21 -0400, Jeff Wisnia wrote: I remember the first time I visited Daytona Beach, maybe 40 years ago, and just HAD to try driving my rental car down the beach. Of course I got it stuck in the sand. And, along came a guy with a Jeep and a tow line who got me free and off the beach for IIRC just $5. The thing I never forgot about it was his tow line which was a giant piece of elastic (bungee?) cord maybe 20 feet long unstretched. After attaching it to my car he roared off ahead of me and that damn line looked like it stretched three times its length before my car started moving. I never really understood what principle was involved in the use of an elastic tow line, but I'd be happy to find out here. A stretch as far as you describe seems a bit excessive, the reason for using elastic gtwo ropes is to prevent either breakage of the tow rope or ripping off your bumper or whatever due to a sudden shock, for instance, when the towing car gets the rope fully extended and it suddenly jerks on your car. That akes sense now that I think about it... Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. Also, because of the inertia of the fast moving tow vehicle, the elastic tow rope can exert a pull greater than the tow vehicle can exert from a standstill. A non-elastic tow rope can do the same thing if the vehicles can stand the shock but the elastic works much better. Don Young |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:39:32 -0400, mm
wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:48:21 -0400, Jeff Wisnia wrote: mm wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 06:22:25 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote: mm wrote: My last 3 cars haven't been able to use a bumper jack, but I still saved the one from my Buick for who knows what I''ll need it for? Heh! Don't use it on a bumper! Modern bumpers are designed to come off. Or crumple. Or just die of shame. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClQPs5QcxQs And a Jeep, no less. Doubly humiliating. I guess if they attached the chain to the axle, they might have ripped off the axle. Probably have to attach it to both axles, or both ends of both axles. I got stuck in the sand once at Breezy Point, or whatever is west of Riis Park on a barrier island at the end of Flatbush Avenue in Brooklyn. Everything was fine until I slowed down. (from 20 or 25mph to 10) I looked around and saw 2 or 3 rusted hulks of cars, from when the tide came in and covered the cars with salt-water. Or at least a foot deep. After I tried for a while, I saw a guy on the sand with a Jeep or pickup and asked him to tow me out. He refused. I tried more of the same. I tried rocking the car. No good. I let air out of my rear tires, but it didn't help. This was before cell phones. I thought of walking back to the last gas station. It was 2 or 3 miles and I didn't know if the tide was going out or coming in. I had a girl with me at the time, and I'm sure she was impressed, although that was the least of my worries. 30 or 45 minutes after I asked him, the guy came over and towed me to a place where the sand was shallow and there was firm dirt under the sand. I think he just wanted me to sweat a bit so I wouldn't do it again. I think he said that. He wouldn't take money. This was back when cars were cars. It was probably a '67 Pontiac Catalina. convertible. I remember the first time I visited Daytona Beach, maybe 40 years ago, and just HAD to try driving my rental car down the beach. Of course I got it stuck in the sand. And, along came a guy with a Jeep and a tow line who got me free and off the beach for IIRC just $5. The thing I never forgot about it was his tow line which was a giant piece of elastic (bungee?) cord maybe 20 feet long unstretched. After attaching it to my car he roared off ahead of me and that damn line looked like it stretched three times its length before my car started moving. I never really understood what principle was involved in the use of an elastic tow line, but I'd be happy to find out here. Jeff I might have one of those. I'm not sure. I probably bought it 20 years ago and put it in the big tupperware box in my trunk. I rarely open it, and I've forgotten what exactly is in there. I do know that I have two melmac plates, and 2 forks, 2 spoons, and 2 knives. I've been carrying them for 30 years and only had one occasion to use them. But it was worth it for that one time. I have spare fuses, and a piece of non-electric wire. I used to have a 12 volt floodlight, but I think I had to take it out to make more room. And I have a yellow band (like a tape, 2 inches wide) with big cast hooks at each end, silver colored. I know it is meant for towing, but i forget if it is elastic or not. I know I haven't had occasion to do that in 20 years either, and might not have the nerve even if there was a reason. I'd be afraid once the car behind me took off, it would rear end me. I don't trust the other driver. Well, maybe I will when I know who he is. And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. I used to carry cover-alls to but I lost them when my car was stolen. But I got new sneakers. Once my car broke down between 5th and 6th on 47 or 49 st. in NYC. I was wearing nice leather shoes and didn't want to scratch them when I was lying under the car. (It was about 6:30 PM on a weeknight, and very quiet on that block.) Then I didn't want to damage my socks so I took them off too, and I walked around 47th St. for over an hour, working on the car, going to a pay phone, waiting until a friend brought me parts, and I didn't cut my feet at all, or ever get them very dirty. But I still carry old shoes now. And salt and pepper, whhich I use pretty often. Have these items been in the same car for 20 years, or in a succession of cars? -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida |
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mm wrote:
I might have one of those. I'm not sure. I probably bought it 20 years ago and put it in the big tupperware box in my trunk. I rarely open it, and I've forgotten what exactly is in there. I do know that I have two melmac plates, and 2 forks, 2 spoons, and 2 knives. I've been carrying them for 30 years and only had one occasion to use them. But it was worth it for that one time. I have spare fuses, and a piece of non-electric wire. I used to have a 12 volt floodlight, but I think I had to take it out to make more room. And I have a yellow band (like a tape, 2 inches wide) with big cast hooks at each end, silver colored. I know it is meant for towing, but i forget if it is elastic or not. I know I haven't had occasion to do that in 20 years either, and might not have the nerve even if there was a reason. I'd be afraid once the car behind me took off, it would rear end me. I don't trust the other driver. Well, maybe I will when I know who he is. It's good to have an emergency kit in the car. Mine includes much of what you listed, plus a first aid kit, jumper cables, tools (including hand-axe), two MREs, smallish tarp, smallish thermal blanket, fire extinguisher, five dollars in coins, cigarette lighter, pistol, short-barreled 16 gauge shotgun, and about 200 rounds of ammunition. I used to carry a spare, clean, dress shirt and condoms. But with age and (now) no wife, they seem superfluous. |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:39:32 -0400, mm wrote:
And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. OK, I knew stealing sneakers had been all the rage in the past couple decades, but I didn't know it had progressed to taking the owner's legs along with them. Even so, I don't get why you would keep the legs, and not put the sneakers onto your own.--unless you use them as stilts or something. ¬R http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/zangelding.html "When there's a nuclear attack, that's when buckets are used." --Tim Brown, IUSD |
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"mm" wrote in message
And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. Glenn has already wondered about the sneakers and whose legs they are on. I wonder, in addition, how you will guarantee those are their last legs. Will you direct your heirs to destroy them? How well do you trust the administrator of your will? I used to carry cover-alls to but I lost them when my car was stolen. But I got new sneakers. Once my car broke down between 5th and 6th on 47 or 49 st. in NYC. I was wearing nice leather shoes and didn't want to scratch them when I was lying under the car. (It was about 6:30 PM on a weeknight, and very quiet on that block.) Then I didn't want to damage my socks so I took them off too, and I walked around 47th St. for over an hour, working on the car, going to a pay phone, waiting until a friend brought me parts, and I didn't cut my feet at all, or ever get them very dirty. But I still carry old shoes now. And salt and pepper, whhich I use pretty often. How does it work in an emergency? Do you creep up on a tow-truck and shake the seasoning on the crane? I imagine you have a very refined technique by this time. |
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On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:52:42 -0400, tony cooper
wrote: them very dirty. But I still carry old shoes now. And salt and pepper, whhich I use pretty often. Have these items been in the same car for 20 years, or in a succession of cars? Three cars in the last 21 years, all Chysler LeBarons. All in the same blue Rubbermaid** container, about 13" by 18" by 6" high. I think once or twice the trunk got wet, so I switched to the plastic box. or maybe it was that the car's trunk is so small compared to my Catalinas and my Centurion, that I needed to put it all in one box, so I could take it all out easily when I needed more space. I can't remember which. **I said Tupperware before. I meant Rubbermaid. |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:20:09 -0400, Glenn Knickerbocker
wrote: On Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:39:32 -0400, mm wrote: And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. OK, I knew stealing sneakers had been all the rage in the past couple decades, but I didn't know it had progressed to taking the owner's legs along with them. Even so, I don't get why you would keep the legs, and not put the sneakers onto your own.--unless you use them as stilts or something. I've found it's better to get others to do my work for me. Let them run around. I'm going to be an executive when I grow up. ¬R http://users.bestweb.net/~notr/zangelding.html "When there's a nuclear attack, that's when buckets are used." --Tim Brown, IUSD |
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On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:41:56 -0500, "Pat Durkin"
wrote: "mm" wrote in message And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. Glenn has already wondered about the sneakers and whose legs they are on. I wonder, in addition, how you will guarantee those are their last legs. Will you direct your heirs to destroy them? How well do you trust the administrator of your will? He's not chosen yet. Sure my brother is listed as executor, in a will I haven't updated since 1973 (because, sadly, so little has changed that it's still correct on the big ticket items. My mother has died, but I allowed for that in the original will.) But he lives thousands of miles away, and didn't even show interest in my mother's estate, left it all up to me, so he would transfer the money correctly, if I'm lucky enough to still have some (or unlucky enough to die early), but getting him to do anything with my "stuff" will be impossible. So I have to pick out some person locally to dispose of my stuff to people who can use it. My ex-girlfriend is very compatible with me on stuff like this, and would do a good job, but she's short of time and money, and she's only an ex, so I have to figure out a salary or formula that's generous enough that she'll actually want to do this, even though she has a full time job. OTOH, she's only 15 years younger than I, and if I live long enough, she may be an old lady by the time I die. (That's stretching it. I'll likely not live past 90, adn she'll only be 75, and probably very healthy and active. She still weighs what she did in junior high school, and her mother and aunt are still slim too, and very active. But if she's still working, say she's 64 and I'm 79, she really won't have enough time, so I'm trying to find a category of person, like a mother from a thrifty family who needs a part-time job, that my friend can hire to do the work. I guess I would give her the authority to pick that person's salary. (My brother will trust her if say she's ok.) i havent done it yet, but i intend to compile a list of friends who get first crack at my stuff/ And then I'm going to leave instructions on what sort of person to hire to advertise my antique radios and other things people might want, and to have yard sales for the junk, and what to give away free because only someone like me or the people on ahr would want it, because I don't want anything going to the dump if I can avoid it. I mean, if I saw my stuff, I would want almost all of it**, so someone else must want it too. **I got to get rid of the broken tvs to make room for all the tv's that will be in the trash next February. If I hadn't broken my arm, I'd be further along on this. I used to carry cover-alls too... And salt and pepper, whhich I use pretty often. How does it work in an emergency? Do you creep up on a tow-truck and shake the seasoning on the crane? I imagine you have a very refined technique by this time. Mostly, where I park, I'm often attacked by snails and slugs, and I sneak up on them and salt them, and they shrivel up. And occasionally I put it on emergency food. |
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"mm" wrote in message ... On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:41:56 -0500, "Pat Durkin" wrote: "mm" wrote in message m And I have a pair of sneakers on their last legs. Glenn has already wondered about the sneakers and whose legs they are on. I wonder, in addition, how you will guarantee those are their last legs. Will you direct your heirs to destroy them? How well do you trust the administrator of your will? He's not chosen yet. Sure my brother is listed as executor, in a will So I have to pick out some person locally to dispose of my stuff to people who can use it. My ex-girlfriend is very compatible with me on stuff like this, and would do a good job, but she's short of time and money, and she's only an ex, so I have to figure out a salary or formula that's generous enough that she'll actually want to do this, even though she has a full time job. OTOH, she's only 15 years younger than I, and if I live long enough, she may be an old lady by the time I die. (That's stretching it. I'll likely not live past 90, adn she'll only be 75, and probably very healthy and active. She still weighs what she did in junior high school, and her mother and aunt are still slim too, and very active. Sounds like you really pick 'em. Get on this now! But if she's still working, say she's 64 and I'm 79, she really won't have enough time, so I'm trying to find a category of person, like a mother from a thrifty family who needs a part-time job, that my friend can hire to do the work. I guess I would give her the authority to pick that person's salary. (My brother will trust her if say she's ok.) Yeah? But how much younger than you is Brother? Is he likely to be around in a time of need? Get on this now! i havent done it yet, but i intend to compile a list of friends who get first crack at my stuff/ And then I'm going to leave instructions on what sort of person to hire to advertise my antique radios and other things people might want, and to have yard sales for the junk, and what to give away free because only someone like me or the people on ahr would want it, because I don't want anything going to the dump if I can avoid it. I mean, if I saw my stuff, I would want almost all of it**, so someone else must want it too. Donate it online now to freecycle and meet wonderful new people. Get on this now! **I got to get rid of the broken tvs to make room for all the tv's that will be in the trash next February. If I hadn't broken my arm, I'd be further along on this. Oh, yeah! You gotta get on this. (Before the Reaper gives you the come-along treatment!) |