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What paste wax for table saw top?
I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron
table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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In article , Billy Smith
wrote: Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? I use Minwax paste wax. |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message
I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). A better to reason to not use a car polish is that it may contain silicone and you don't want that in your shop. Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? You can still buy JPW here at the BORG. Try TopCote ... it is more expensive, but works better and lasts longer. Available at just about any woodworking supply sto Rockler, WoodCraft, Cutting Edge,. Porter Cable stores, and many places that supply cabinet parts and hardware to the trades. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/04/04 |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message news I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy If you can't find it locally, you can still get Johnson's Paste Wax directly from the manufacturer: http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/ Michael Latcha - at home in Redford, MI |
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On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:26:23 -0400, "Billy Smith"
wrote: I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy meguiar's carnauba paste wax. get it at an automotive parts store. |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message news I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? While TopCote looks expensive, I have only used 3 cans of it since 1989. I live in humid Houston so it does get tested. Keep in mind to put on at least 2 liberally heavy coats to start and as time goes by you can use it less and less. Now I use it to simply slick up the surface, which is what it was originally intended for. I discovered that it also kept the rest away. And, it is simple to use. Spray it on, wipe it off if you want. I never wipe it off any more. |
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"Dave Balderstone" wrote in message tone.ca... In article , Billy Smith I use Minwax paste wax. That's what I use. I first use an automotive type buffer and Dupont buffing compound to clean it up. I then apply several coats of the wax buffing out each coat. Rob Mills ~ PS, I didn't use the buffing compound on my new saw. |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ... Try TopCote ... it is more expensive, but works better and lasts longer. Available at just about any woodworking supply sto Rockler, WoodCraft, Cutting Edge,. Porter Cable stores, and many places that supply cabinet parts and hardware to the trades. I have been very disappointed in TopCote. Minwax paste wax works better for me. TopCote is very expensive. Maybe I'm not applying right. But I find Minwax works better and lasts longer. What am I doing wrong? Bob |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message news I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. Johnson's paste wax is carried by Ace Hardware. Bob |
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"Bob" wrote in message nk.net...
I have been very disappointed in TopCote. Minwax paste wax works better for me. TopCote is very expensive. Maybe I'm not applying right. But I find Minwax works better and lasts longer. What am I doing wrong? Bob Funny. That is the exact opposite of my experience. I was using paste wax but was disappointed and was constantly applying more wax. Now that I am using TopCote, the treatments are few and far between. Al |
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"Bob" wrote in message
TopCote is very expensive. I seem to have read that somewhere. Maybe I'm not applying right. But I find Minwax works better and lasts longer. What am I doing wrong? Nothing at all ... it's likely a climatic thing. You use what works best for you in your particular climate. -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/04/04 |
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Great link.
They only want $5.80/can. The last time that I bought the Minwax paste wax at Lowes it was closer to $10 IIRC. $5.99 shipping/no tax is not bad if you buy a couple of cans. Thanks, Steve "Michael Latcha" wrote in message ... "Billy Smith" wrote in message news I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy If you can't find it locally, you can still get Johnson's Paste Wax directly from the manufacturer: http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/ Michael Latcha - at home in Redford, MI |
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In article , "Billy Smith" wrote:
I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. Johnson's is still manufactured. It's tough to find in some areas, but it's still available. Your best bets are real hardware stores (e.g. Ace, Tru-Value, or any independent mom-and pop operation) and smaller grocery stores. Lowe's does carry it, but not in every store. They can probably order it for you. According to a post by Silvan earlier this year, the Lowe's stock number is 44690. Home Depot and WalMart are alleged to have it in some stores. I've never seen it at either one, and nobody has posted stock numbers. You can also order it direct from the manufacturer: http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/ I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). It's a bad idea in any event. Most automobile waxes contain silicone, which will cause "fish-eye" in a lot of wood finishes. You don't want silicone anywhere near any of your woodworking tools. Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? Johnson's, or Butcher's Bowling Alley Wax. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com) Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com You must use your REAL email address to get a response. |
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TopCote works better and better over time as the layers build. You have to
start off with 2 liberally heavy layers and reapply as necessary afterward. Applications become farther and farther apart. |
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"Bob" wrote in message ink.net...
I have been very disappointed in TopCote. Minwax paste wax works better for me. TopCote is very expensive. Maybe I'm not applying right. But I find Minwax works better and lasts longer. What am I doing wrong? Bob I have to admit that I tried TopCote for the first time, here in FL, and I'm having problems with it as well. First I applied a coat and wiped off...found rust the next day. Tried again with the same results. Posted a message here and got a suggestion to put it on but not wipe it off. Tried that, too. After applying two coats & not wiping off, was working near the saw, and a couple of drops of sweat fell on the table top. I figured it should be fine, but 20 mins later when I looked back, the drops of sweat had rusted the table. Went back to Johnson's paste wax I had a bought a couple of months ago. Put on a liberal coat and left it (unbuffed). As of now (a week later, and a couple of projects later) no rust. I did have a small issue with the first couple of boards sticking a little bit, so I guess I should have buffed it out, but when I was using the unbuffed TopCote, I found that it made the top VERY sticky. Just my experience, and I assume that I'm doing something wrong with the product because of all the people here that rave about it, but I guess it's just too high-tech for me ;-) Trace |
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"William Wilson" wrote in message
om... "Bob" wrote in message ink.net... I have to admit that I tried TopCote for the first time, here in FL, and I'm having problems with it as well. First I applied a coat and wiped off...found rust the next day. Tried again with the same results. Posted a message here and got a suggestion to put it on but not wipe it off. Tried that, too. After applying two coats & not wiping off, was working near the saw, and a couple of drops of sweat fell on the table top. I figured it should be fine, but 20 mins later when I looked back, the drops of sweat had rusted the table. While nothing is perfect, salt water is pretty corrosive. I am not sure anything is going to protect against standing salt water. I believe that most of the protective products are more aimed at constant humid conditions that cause large areas of rust. |
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I didn't read all of the responses so forgive if this is repetitive.
I use a non-silicon product called Slipit. It is a contact lubricant but works well on metal tables and does not leave a residue. It come is both paste and spray form and the salesman at the Grizzly store recomended paste for durability. You brush the gooey paste on with a brush, then wipe it off with a rag. Sounds messy but not that bad. The lubricant also frees up your miter gages and if your fence rides on the table it will slide more smoothly for a while. A can of paste is available through Grizzly for about $10. I have had a can for about 2-1/2 years and use it on everything 4-5 times a year and have used less than 1/4 of the content. It might be available other places too. Ron |
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"Leon" wrote in message of sweat had rusted the table. While nothing is perfect, salt water is pretty corrosive. I wonder if he sweated on the JPW as well? -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 10/04/04 |
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On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:43:15 GMT, "Bob"
calmly ranted: "Billy Smith" wrote in message news I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. Johnson's paste wax is carried by Ace Hardware. I've seen it at Walmart in two different states, too. Check the floor polish/mop area in grocery stores as well. --- - Friends don't let friends use FrontPage - http://diversify.com Dynamic Website Programming |
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Did you clean the top completely before you applied
the TopCote ??? I live on a salt creek and 3 miles from the ocean and Topcote works fine on all my tools. Johnson's paste wax left unbuffed is going to be a sticky mess. William Wilson wrote: Bob I have to admit that I tried TopCote for the first time, here in FL, and I'm having problems with it as well. First I applied a coat and wiped off...found rust the next day. Tried again with the same results. Posted a message here and got a suggestion to put it on but not wipe it off. Tried that, too. After applying two coats & not wiping off, was working near the saw, and a couple of drops of sweat fell on the table top. I figured it should be fine, but 20 mins later when I looked back, the drops of sweat had rusted the table. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:43:15 GMT, "Bob" calmly ranted: "Billy Smith" wrote in message news I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. Johnson's paste wax is carried by Ace Hardware. I've seen it at Walmart in two different states, too. Check the floor polish/mop area in grocery stores as well. They quit selling it in California. It causes cancer there. g SH |
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:56:38 -0700, Slowhand I'm@work wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... I've seen it at Walmart in two different states, too. Check the floor polish/mop area in grocery stores as well. They quit selling it in California. It causes cancer there. g Yeah, but only in Californians, so it's perfectly safe for the rest of us. Dave "That, or it's a politics thing rather than a science thing" Hinz |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message news I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? I use Johnsons paste wax. And yes, it is still available. I've used it for years. I have never had the urge to use anything else. And at $5 and change a can, it won't leave you short on soup for the family. I've had the same can for about 2 years now and prolly have another year left. When I first started applying it, I probably applied it every cuppla months or so. Now I just apply it every six months or so. Highly recommend. SH |
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It is only a rumor that Johnson's Wax is no longer manufactured. It
is available in many locations (you just need to look). On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:26:23 -0400, "Billy Smith" wrote: I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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It's still available in some stores in CA. For instance, Orchard Supply
and Lowe's. I've seen it as recently as a few weeks ago. It HAS been harder to find than years ago, however... David. Slowhand wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 06 Oct 2004 04:43:15 GMT, "Bob" calmly ranted: "Billy Smith" wrote in message news I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. Johnson's paste wax is carried by Ace Hardware. I've seen it at Walmart in two different states, too. Check the floor polish/mop area in grocery stores as well. They quit selling it in California. It causes cancer there. g SH |
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"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message ... .. They quit selling it in California. It causes cancer there. g SH I opened up a bag of Mesquite Kingsford Charcoal. The warning label indicated that in California the smoke could cause birth defects and or cancer. |
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so can the air in LA! (I was down in LaLa land last week and wonder
how/why folks live there!) David Leon wrote: I opened up a bag of Mesquite Kingsford Charcoal. The warning label indicated that in California the smoke could cause birth defects and or cancer. |
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I found SC Johnson still sells the paste wax. Here is a link
http://www.scjbrands.com/mailorder/ Frank Billy Smith wrote: I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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What I've read is to use a furniture paste wax like Butchers. You can get this at Home Depot in the paint section. Don't use a paste wax that has a silicone in it like the car waxes. Thunder On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:26:23 -0400, "Billy Smith" wrote: I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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"Swingman" wrote in message ...
"Leon" wrote in message of sweat had rusted the table. While nothing is perfect, salt water is pretty corrosive. I wonder if he sweated on the JPW as well? Actually, I did. It wound up sitting on the table for about 10-15 mins before I cleaned it off (I just wanted to see what would happen), and I didn't see any rust under drops when I wiped it off. Trace |
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Pat Barber wrote in message ...
Did you clean the top completely before you applied the TopCote ??? I live on a salt creek and 3 miles from the ocean and Topcote works fine on all my tools. Johnson's paste wax left unbuffed is going to be a sticky mess. Not sure exactly how the top should be cleaned (VERY new at this). After unpacking the saw, I wiped it down about 3-4 times with kerosene, wiped it a couple of times with with clean paper towels, then applied the TopCote. Like I said before, with all the positive feedback on the product, I'm pretty sure it's me, not the product. As for not buffing the wax, yep, I found that out. I tried buffing it after I saw the mess, but that did no good, so I took a scrap of stock and ran it across the surface for a few mins. Smoothed out the finish, and it seems to be working well...no rust, nice slick top. When it comes time to reapply, I'll definately remember to buff!!! Oh well, I guess this is part of the fun...trying something that you THINK will work, then going back and doing it correctly!! ;-) Maybe next time I should just LISTEN to the sage advice offered here!! Trace |
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Who ever told you that Johnson's was no longer made steered you wrong,
it is definitely STILL in production Butcher's Bowling Alley wax is also good, as is Renasance Wax, as is TriWax John On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:26:23 -0400, "Billy Smith" wrote: I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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"Billy Smith" wrote in message t...
.... Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy I use Trewax brand paste wax (the clear color; they also have a brownish one called Indian Sand). I use the same as a final coat on the pieces I make. It's silicone free. |
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No longer manufactured? SC Johnson (the manufacturer) sells it on their
website. I can buy it locally too. "Billy Smith" wrote in message news I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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'tis true. It's no longer made. I checked with them myself.... They have
residual stock, that they sell on the Internet only and if you find some in a store, buy it as it's all that's left.... Good luck Rob -- http://www.robswoodworking.com "CW" no adddress@spam free.com wrote in message ... No longer manufactured? SC Johnson (the manufacturer) sells it on their website. I can buy it locally too. "Billy Smith" wrote in message news I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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Ace has Johnson's online:
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...entPage=search On Tue, 5 Oct 2004 22:26:23 -0400, "Billy Smith" wrote: I'm looking for a good paste wax to use on my cast-iron table saw top. I found a thread from a couple years ago that said that Johnson's paste wax was the best, but is no longer manufactured. A specialty product called TopCote works but is expensive. I started to buy some Turtle Wax today but stopped because the directions said to apply it with a wet rag (rust hazard). Anybody have a recommendation for a good, readily available wax for this purpose? --Billy |
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