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On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:55:36 GMT, (Scott Lurndal)
wrote: writes: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 14:01:48 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 19:26:22 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 15:11:27 -0400, wrote: I forgot to add, that all of this (plan availability, cost, insurance company, and coverage) varies by zip code. It really is a huge mess. Indeed. A single pool, single payer system with mandatory enrollment for all seems far easier to manage, far better outcomes and better for the mental and physical health of retirees. No holes, there aren't 51 million different plans, no hidden bills and universal coverage within the entire country. Not buying it. Our government would screw up a wet dream. NO chance I want a takeover of healthcare or even insurance. They gave us Medicare. Medicare was just fine until the Republicans started dismantling it a couple decades ago. Leading to the current mess. Oh, horse****. It was a mess from day one. It's not Medicare that's the problem, idiot. It's government and everyone of you socialists who think it's the answer to all that ales us. It's *not*. Universal health care works quite well in Canada, the UK, Down Under, and in many other countries; I don't see why it can't work here as well. Can't be worse than the current system. They don't have the corruption to the level of the US congress, which just got massively worse, BTW. You have a pretty active imagination. And you clearly don't understand the meaning of the term 'socialist' which has zero to do with a single-payer insurance pool. But that's par for the course, it seems, for trump supporters. Like all lefties, you're simply a liar. Nothing new here. |
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On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 9:22:43 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:55:36 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 14:01:48 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 19:26:22 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 15:11:27 -0400, wrote: I forgot to add, that all of this (plan availability, cost, insurance company, and coverage) varies by zip code. It really is a huge mess.. Indeed. A single pool, single payer system with mandatory enrollment for all seems far easier to manage, far better outcomes and better for the mental and physical health of retirees. No holes, there aren't 51 million different plans, no hidden bills and universal coverage within the entire country. Not buying it. Our government would screw up a wet dream. NO chance I want a takeover of healthcare or even insurance. They gave us Medicare. Medicare was just fine until the Republicans started dismantling it a couple decades ago. Leading to the current mess. Oh, horse****. It was a mess from day one. It's not Medicare that's the problem, idiot. It's government and everyone of you socialists who think it's the answer to all that ales us. It's *not*. Universal health care works quite well in Canada, the UK, Down Under, and in many other countries; I don't see why it can't work here as well. Can't be worse than the current system. They don't have the corruption to the level of the US congress, which just got massively worse, BTW. You have a pretty active imagination. And you clearly don't understand the meaning of the term 'socialist' which has zero to do with a single-payer insurance pool. But that's par for the course, it seems, for trump supporters. Like all lefties, you're simply a liar. Nothing new here. This is really weird. My newsreader says I’m reading rec.woodworking but it seems like I’m reading alt.home.repair. Strange. Must be a bug. |
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On 4/7/2021 9:01 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Snip Medicare was just fine until the Republicans started dismantling it a couple decades ago. Leading to the current mess. Universal health care works quite well in Canada, the UK, Down Under, and in many other countries; I don't see why it can't work here as well. Can't be worse than the current system. According to an update posted to the CDC'S travel notices page on April 2, the agency has listed Canada as a Level 4 health risk due to the infection high rate of more than 100 new cases per 100,000 people over the past 28 days. The advisory warns: "Because of the current situation in Canada, even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants and should avoid all travel to Canada." I'm not sure if this would be an endorsement for health care in Canada. |
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Leon [email protected] writes:
On 4/7/2021 9:01 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Snip Medicare was just fine until the Republicans started dismantling it a couple decades ago. Leading to the current mess. Universal health care works quite well in Canada, the UK, Down Under, and in many other countries; I don't see why it can't work here as well. Can't be worse than the current system. According to an update posted to the CDC'S travel notices page on April 2, the agency has listed Canada as a Level 4 health risk due to the infection high rate of more than 100 new cases per 100,000 people over the past 28 days. The advisory warns: "Because of the current situation in Canada, even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants and should avoid all travel to Canada." I'm not sure if this would be an endorsement for health care in Canada. I don't see anything there related to health care in Canada. They have ignorant rednecks that won't mask just like we do. |
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On 4/8/2021 11:40 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 9:22:43 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:55:36 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 14:01:48 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: [SNIP] You have a pretty active imagination. And you clearly don't understand the meaning of the term 'socialist' which has zero to do with a single-payer insurance pool. But that's par for the course, it seems, for trump supporters. Like all lefties, you're simply a liar. Nothing new here. This is really weird. My newsreader says I’m reading rec.woodworking but it seems like I’m reading alt.home.repair. Strange. Must be a bug. No problem, DerbyDad. Just wait un til the Demorats get around to their Medicare single-payer system. You'll likely wait 8 to 10 months to read about all this stuff but it will be mixed in articles on gardening and fairy tales. LOL! |
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On 4/8/2021 3:07 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Leon [email protected] writes: On 4/7/2021 9:01 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Snip Medicare was just fine until the Republicans started dismantling it a couple decades ago. Leading to the current mess. Universal health care works quite well in Canada, the UK, Down Under, and in many other countries; I don't see why it can't work here as well. Can't be worse than the current system. According to an update posted to the CDC'S travel notices page on April 2, the agency has listed Canada as a Level 4 health risk due to the infection high rate of more than 100 new cases per 100,000 people over the past 28 days. The advisory warns: "Because of the current situation in Canada, even fully vaccinated travelers may be at risk for getting and spreading COVID-19 variants and should avoid all travel to Canada." I'm not sure if this would be an endorsement for health care in Canada. I don't see anything there related to health care in Canada. They have ignorant rednecks that won't mask just like we do. Every country has theirs. :~) But I would think a better health system would have a better inoculation ratio, easier to get inoculated, therefore fewer infections. BUT! being inoculated does not prevent you from contaminating some one else. It just means you personally will probably not get sick when you are exposed again. |
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On 4/8/2021 5:13 PM, Leon wrote:
On 4/8/2021 3:07 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Leon [email protected] writes: On 4/7/2021 9:01 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: [SNIP] I don't see anything there related to health care in Canada.Â* They have ignorant rednecks that won't mask just like we do. Every country has theirs.Â* :~) But I would think a better health system would have a better inoculation ratio, easier to get inoculated, therefore fewer infections. BUT! being inoculated does not prevent you from contaminating some one else.Â* It just means you personally will probably not get sick when you are exposed again. Actually, Leon, there was a study just report over the weekend or early this week claiming that if you're fully inoculated with the Covid-19 vaccine you are highly unlikely to be a carrier of the virus. Personally, I'm following the masking and washing guidelines until a lot more time has passed. Take it all with a grain of salt. If Universal Health care is so great in Canada, why do our neighbors to the north continue to come to the States for treatment. Might the average (most recent I found) 20.9 weeks between the time their Canadian GP refers them to a specialist and when the specialist sees them have something to do with it? The last two occasions where I was referred to a specialist it was 3 weeks and 1 day respectively. |
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On Thu, 8 Apr 2021 09:40:29 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 9:22:43 PM UTC-4, wrote: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 17:55:36 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Wed, 07 Apr 2021 14:01:48 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 19:26:22 GMT, (Scott Lurndal) wrote: writes: On Tue, 06 Apr 2021 15:11:27 -0400, wrote: I forgot to add, that all of this (plan availability, cost, insurance company, and coverage) varies by zip code. It really is a huge mess. Indeed. A single pool, single payer system with mandatory enrollment for all seems far easier to manage, far better outcomes and better for the mental and physical health of retirees. No holes, there aren't 51 million different plans, no hidden bills and universal coverage within the entire country. Not buying it. Our government would screw up a wet dream. NO chance I want a takeover of healthcare or even insurance. They gave us Medicare. Medicare was just fine until the Republicans started dismantling it a couple decades ago. Leading to the current mess. Oh, horse****. It was a mess from day one. It's not Medicare that's the problem, idiot. It's government and everyone of you socialists who think it's the answer to all that ales us. It's *not*. Universal health care works quite well in Canada, the UK, Down Under, and in many other countries; I don't see why it can't work here as well. Can't be worse than the current system. They don't have the corruption to the level of the US congress, which just got massively worse, BTW. You have a pretty active imagination. And you clearly don't understand the meaning of the term 'socialist' which has zero to do with a single-payer insurance pool. But that's par for the course, it seems, for trump supporters. Like all lefties, you're simply a liar. Nothing new here. This is really weird. My newsreader says I’m reading rec.woodworking but it seems like I’m reading alt.home.repair. Strange. Must be a bug. Termites |
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hOn Thu, 8 Apr 2021 17:28:02 -0500, Unquestionably Confused
wrote: On 4/8/2021 5:13 PM, Leon wrote: On 4/8/2021 3:07 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Leon [email protected] writes: On 4/7/2021 9:01 AM, Scott Lurndal wrote: [SNIP] I don't see anything there related to health care in Canada.* They have ignorant rednecks that won't mask just like we do. Every country has theirs.* :~) But I would think a better health system would have a better inoculation ratio, easier to get inoculated, therefore fewer infections. BUT! being inoculated does not prevent you from contaminating some one else.* It just means you personally will probably not get sick when you are exposed again. Actually, Leon, there was a study just report over the weekend or early this week claiming that if you're fully inoculated with the Covid-19 vaccine you are highly unlikely to be a carrier of the virus. Personally, I'm following the masking and washing guidelines until a lot more time has passed. Take it all with a grain of salt. I never did. Pretty much Everything opened up here last June/July. Before that we used curbside service at restaurants and inside dining since. I would never have worn a mask if businesses didn't require it. ...and I see fools driving down the road, alone, wearing masks. It's really too funny. If Universal Health care is so great in Canada, why do our neighbors to the north continue to come to the States for treatment. Might the average (most recent I found) 20.9 weeks between the time their Canadian GP refers them to a specialist and when the specialist sees them have something to do with it? The last two occasions where I was referred to a specialist it was 3 weeks and 1 day respectively. Having healthcare insurance is not the same has having health care. |
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