Hello everyone,

I don't post on here much anymore, so many people have lost newsgroups, a
lot of the old members are not around here anymore.

Are many of you on Facebook? I have been posting my works on there for
friends and family to see.

Here is some of my recent work,

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...l=0a1982 f890

If you are on Facebook and I "know" you, add me.

David Eisan - London, Ontario

Take care,

David.

David F. Eisan wrote the following:
Hello everyone,

I don't post on here much anymore, so many people have lost newsgroups, a
lot of the old members are not around here anymore.

Are many of you on Facebook? I have been posting my works on there for
friends and family to see.

Here is some of my recent work,

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...l=0a1982 f890

If you are on Facebook and I "know" you, add me.

David Eisan - London, Ontario

Take care,

David.




Facebook? Isn't that one of those sites that are mainly frequented by
women writing about every insignificant detail of their lives to other
women while their husbands are tying up the home telephone for important
calls? :-)

--

Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
To email, remove the double zeroes after @

On 5/16/2011 7:23 AM, willshak wrote:

Facebook? Isn't that one of those sites that are mainly frequented by
women writing about every insignificant detail of their lives to other
women while their husbands are tying up the home telephone for important
calls? :-)


What's a "home telephone"??

I'm with David, while there are a few here on FB, would be nice to see more.

It's like any other tool, social or otherwise ... the "friends" on FB
are folks I've worked and played with in the music world, or
increasingly, woodworking folks I've met here. The common denominator is
sharing a common interest.

One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in person,
but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a great way to
keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in person,
but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a great way to
keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

Karl,

Just "requested" ya.
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill
TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill
FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill

V8013-R

"David F. Eisan" wrote in message
I don't post on here much anymore, so many people have lost newsgroups, a
lot of the old members are not around here anymore.

I remember you, your name and your face. Saw you working a booth at the
Toronto Woodworking Show several years back just before it changed to the
fall DIY and Great Outdoors Show. It was about that time you mostly stopped
posting to the Rec.

On May 16, 6:45*am, "David F. Eisan"
wrote:
Hello everyone,

I don't post on here much anymore, so many people have lost newsgroups, a
lot of the old members are not around here anymore.

Are many of you on Facebook? I have been posting my works on there for
friends and family to see.

Here is some of my recent work,

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...741.276400.729....

If you are on Facebook and I "know" you, add me.

David Eisan - London, Ontario

Take care,

David.

We have an account but it isn't "mine".

I participated in our high school's scholarship selection process this
year. The school Principal warned some of the candidates about
Facebook content. School administrators, counselors, grad school
selection teams and employers are finding way to get access to
Facebook material. Postings about last night's party, a hangover,
drinking, or a conquest are ending up is student files; and in
selection processes. A few months ago I watched an old co-worker get
himself laid off because of less than discreet Facebook comments.

Yeah, I know there will be a rash of comments regarding privacy,
lawsuits, etc. But at the end of the day, when you put it on the
internet, it is on the internet.

RonB

RonB wrote:

We have an account but it isn't "mine".

I participated in our high school's scholarship selection process this
year. The school Principal warned some of the candidates about
Facebook content. School administrators, counselors, grad school
selection teams and employers are finding way to get access to
Facebook material. Postings about last night's party, a hangover,
drinking, or a conquest are ending up is student files; and in
selection processes. A few months ago I watched an old co-worker get
himself laid off because of less than discreet Facebook comments.

Yeah, I know there will be a rash of comments regarding privacy,
lawsuits, etc. But at the end of the day, when you put it on the
internet, it is on the internet.

RonB

No problem ... Finished school, before the dumbing down; too old to party
too hard; any conquest at this point ain't worth the trouble; self
employed.

--
www.ewoodshop.com

"Swingman" wrote in message
...

On 5/16/2011 7:23 AM, willshak wrote:

Facebook? Isn't that one of those sites that are mainly frequented by
women writing about every insignificant detail of their lives to other
women while their husbands are tying up the home telephone for important
calls? :-)


What's a "home telephone"??

I'm with David, while there are a few here on FB, would be nice to see more.

It's like any other tool, social or otherwise ... the "friends" on FB
are folks I've worked and played with in the music world, or
increasingly, woodworking folks I've met here. The common denominator is
sharing a common interest.

One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in person,
but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a great way to
keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

Has it gotten any better? The first time tried it I recall having to
relearnwehere everything was the next day, and the next, and....

David F. Eisan wrote:
Hello everyone,

I don't post on here much anymore, so many people have lost
newsgroups, a lot of the old members are not around here anymore.

Are many of you on Facebook? I have been posting my works on there for
friends and family to see.

Here is some of my recent work,

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...l=0a1982 f890

If you are on Facebook and I "know" you, add me.


FWIW - and it's just my opinion., so it probably isn't worth too much... I
don't do facebook. Just cannot warm to that medium for interaction.

--

-Mike-

Swingman wrote:


I'm with David, while there are a few here on FB, would be nice to
see more.

All right - stop right where you are! Facebook sucks and I'll have none of
you socialist supporters advocating it here!

It's like any other tool, social or otherwise ... the "friends" on FB
are folks I've worked and played with in the music world, or
increasingly, woodworking folks I've met here. The common denominator
is sharing a common interest.

Except that it tries to impose itself into your life, regardless of what you
intended it to be when you signed on. Not to mention, what it sells, or
otherwise distributes from you profile information...


One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in
person, but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a
great way to keep up with remote family and grand kids.

Kinda like a telephone, eh?


facebook.com/karl.caillouet

Karl - say it ain't so...

--

-Mike-

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to
those folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know
in person, but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also
a great way to keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

Karl,

Just "requested" ya.

And you felt you needed to post that in a newsgroup? for what reason?

--

-Mike-

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
Swingman wrote:


I'm with David, while there are a few here on FB, would be nice to
see more.

All right - stop right where you are! Facebook sucks and I'll have none of
you socialist supporters advocating it here!

Rotfl ...

It's like any other tool, social or otherwise ... the "friends" on FB
are folks I've worked and played with in the music world, or
increasingly, woodworking folks I've met here. The common denominator
is sharing a common interest.

Except that it tries to impose itself into your life, regardless of what you
intended it to be when you signed on. Not to mention, what it sells, or
otherwise distributes from you profile information...

Although there are plenty of folks in the category, you have to be pretty
damn dumb to allow technology to wag the dog.

One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in
person, but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a
great way to keep up with remote family and grand kids.

Kinda like a telephone, eh?

With pictures ... But a whole lot cheaper.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

Karl - say it ain't so...

You bet, Bubba ... I use technology, it doesn't use me. He says, as he sits
on a construction site, waiting for a plumbing inspector to show, while
posting on the wRec using an iPad2 ... IOW, eatcherheartout!

Actually, I was an early adopter of FB to keep up with my daughter in the
UK and my grandsons, and my youngest in college. My youngest daughter is
visiting in the UK now and we have been part of the entire experience
through both FB and Skype. Basically, it's as close to being there as you
can get.

--
www.ewoodshop.com

On 5/16/11 8:37 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 5/16/2011 7:23 AM, willshak wrote:

Facebook? Isn't that one of those sites that are mainly frequented by
women writing about every insignificant detail of their lives to other
women while their husbands are tying up the home telephone for important
calls? :-)


What's a "home telephone"??

I'm with David, while there are a few here on FB, would be nice to see
more.

It's like any other tool, social or otherwise ... the "friends" on FB
are folks I've worked and played with in the music world, or
increasingly, woodworking folks I've met here. The common denominator is
sharing a common interest.

One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in person,
but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a great way to
keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

I was a former member of a usenet/computer group that got overrun by
trolls, now we have a private invite-only group on FB with about eight
people trusted to be admins (read original members). 38 members on the
group now, and a very lively community, more fun. on topic, no trolls etc.

The invite-only being the key, Karl if there is an interest, I can help
you set it up, it took about a year to get to the point it is, first
members have to friend a member, and then invited. There is a document
on the page that links FB names to usenet names if people get confuzed, etc.

We are quite happy with it.

--
Froz...


The system will be down for 10 days for preventive maintenance.

On May 16, 3:12*pm, Swingman wrote:


You bet, Bubba ... I use technology, it doesn't use me. He says, as he sits
on a construction site, waiting for a plumbing inspector to show, while
posting on the wRec *using an iPad2 ... IOW, eatcherheartout! *


ARRRGGHHHHH *bangs head on desk* MACHINES THOSE DAMNED MACHINES!!!!

On 5/16/11 1:31 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Joe AutoDrill wrote:
One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to
those folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know
in person, but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also
a great way to keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

Karl,

Just "requested" ya.

And you felt you needed to post that in a newsgroup? for what reason?


The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

FrozenNorth wrote:
On 5/16/11 8:37 AM, Swingman wrote:

One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in person,
but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a great way to
keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

I was a former member of a usenet/computer group that got overrun by
trolls, now we have a private invite-only group on FB with about eight
people trusted to be admins (read original members). 38 members on the
group now, and a very lively community, more fun. on topic, no trolls etc.

The invite-only being the key, Karl if there is an interest, I can help
you set it up, it took about a year to get to the point it is, first
members have to friend a member, and then invited. There is a document
on the page that links FB names to usenet names if people get confuzed, etc.

We are quite happy with it.

A plus is that it tends to add civility to the general discourse ... I feel
like the guys here who are also on FB are indeed "friends", we "know" each
others wives, children, siblings, pets and, as much as mutually allowed,
their interaction with same ... last thing you want to do is to get into a
****ing contest with a friend here, or anywhere else.

--
www.ewoodshop.com

Swingman wrote:


You bet, Bubba ... I use technology, it doesn't use me. He says, as
he sits on a construction site, waiting for a plumbing inspector to
show, while posting on the wRec using an iPad2 ... IOW,
eatcherheartout!

Actually, I was an early adopter of FB to keep up with my daughter in
the UK and my grandsons, and my youngest in college. My youngest
daughter is visiting in the UK now and we have been part of the
entire experience through both FB and Skype. Basically, it's as close
to being there as you can get.

i get it that many people use this technology this way - I'm just an old
fart that does not embrace this particular technology this way. I'm glued
to the use of those archaic tecnologies such as texting, etc. Call me an od
fart or something, but that's where I'm at. My kids all use FB and I tried
it, but I am stubborn n refusing it now. What can i say?...


--

-Mike-

"Mike Marlow" wrote:

FWIW - and it's just my opinion., so it probably isn't worth too
much... I don't do facebook. Just cannot warm to that medium for
interaction.
--------
That makes two of us.

Lew

"Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote:

FWIW - and it's just my opinion., so it probably isn't worth too
much... I don't do facebook. Just cannot warm to that medium for
interaction.
--------
That makes two of us.

Ya but, you still using that crank to start your horseless carriage, Lew?


--
www.ewoodshop.com

"Mike Marlow" wrote:
Swingman wrote:


You bet, Bubba ... I use technology, it doesn't use me. He says, as
he sits on a construction site, waiting for a plumbing inspector to
show, while posting on the wRec using an iPad2 ... IOW,
eatcherheartout!

Actually, I was an early adopter of FB to keep up with my daughter in
the UK and my grandsons, and my youngest in college. My youngest
daughter is visiting in the UK now and we have been part of the
entire experience through both FB and Skype. Basically, it's as close
to being there as you can get.

i get it that many people use this technology this way - I'm just an old
fart that does not embrace this particular technology this way. I'm glued
to the use of those archaic tecnologies such as texting, etc. Call me an od
fart or something, but that's where I'm at. My kids all use FB and I tried
it, but I am stubborn n refusing it now. What can i say?...

Hey, old farts can still talk on the phone now and then. Y'all headed down
this way anytime this summer?
--
www.ewoodshop.com

Just "requested" ya.

And you felt you needed to post that in a newsgroup? for what reason?


The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

I'm thinking I've got "the lady who doth protest too much" blocked already
because I received this response but not the protesting one. ...Signs of a
cronic troll or complainer.
--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-HQ.com
VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill
TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill
FACEBOOK: http://www.facebook.com/AutoDrill

V8013-R

On May 16, 11:14 am, Swingman wrote:


No problem ... Finished school, before the dumbing down; too old to party
too hard; any conquest at this point ain't worth the trouble; self
employed.

I had the biggest damn belly laugh when i read that I almost fell out
of my chair. I can just SEE and HEAR you saying that.

All that was missing was a big **sigh** after that update.

All I would change to make that my profile is "seem to be tired a lot
more lately".

Robert

"Mike Marlow" wrote in
:

i get it that many people use this technology this way - I'm just an
old fart that does not embrace this particular technology this way.
I'm glued to the use of those archaic tecnologies such as texting,
etc. Call me an od fart or something, but that's where I'm at. My
kids all use FB and I tried it, but I am stubborn n refusing it now.
What can i say?...


What's texting?

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Mike Marlow wrote:
David F. Eisan wrote:
Hello everyone,

I don't post on here much anymore, so many people have lost
newsgroups, a lot of the old members are not around here anymore.

Are many of you on Facebook? I have been posting my works on there for
friends and family to see.

Here is some of my recent work,

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...l=0a1982 f890

If you are on Facebook and I "know" you, add me.


FWIW - and it's just my opinion., so it probably isn't worth too much... I
don't do facebook. Just cannot warm to that medium for interaction.

Tried it. Didn't like it. Can't cancel it. Best I could do was
unfriend all my "friends" and inactivate my account. But the account
is still there. Sorta like marriage--easier to do than undo.

--
Gerald Ross
Cochran, GA

An aquarium is interactive television
for cats.

On May 16, 3:56*pm, Swingman wrote:
FrozenNorth wrote:
On 5/16/11 8:37 AM, Swingman wrote:
One of the advantages of FB is that it adds another dimension to those
folks who post on the wRec that you would really like to know in person,
but due to distance, find that a remote possibility. Also a great way to
keep up with remote family and grand kids.

facebook.com/karl.caillouet

I was a former member of a usenet/computer group that got overrun by
trolls, now we have a private invite-only group on FB with about eight
people trusted to be admins (read original members). *38 members on the
group now, and a very lively community, more fun. on topic, no trolls etc.

The invite-only being the key, Karl if there is an interest, I can help
you set it up, it took about a year to get to the point it is, first
members have to friend a member, and then invited. *There is a document
on the page that links FB names to usenet names if people get confuzed, etc.

We are quite happy with it.

A plus is that it tends to add civility to the general discourse ... I feel
like the guys here who are also on FB are indeed "friends", we "know" each
others wives, children, siblings, pets and, as much as mutually allowed,
their interaction with same ... last thing you want to do is to get into a
****ing contest with a friend here, or anywhere else.

--www.ewoodshop.com

I agree that it certainly expands the interaction, in some ways even
more so than a phone. UseNet is pretty darn shallow unless you bump
into folks who one is more familiar with through FaceBook.

I am on the fence a bit as to what extent I am willing to go with it.
My friends have most pertinent info on me already anyway, but not all
know my shoe size. I like to see the faces of those I interact with,
am always curious about their families, pets, hobbies, what they see
when they look out their kitchen window.

My youngest's BFF just came home from an Italian student exchange
after 3 months. As if she never left. My daughter threw a party for
her in our back yard, and at one point, when the bonfire was low, I
looked down from the deck, on that crowd of about 30, and saw at least
20+ little lit-up screens.... they were all together and STILL texting
each other...G

Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote:

FWIW - and it's just my opinion., so it probably isn't worth too
much... I don't do facebook. Just cannot warm to that medium for
interaction.
--------
That makes two of us.

Lew


I too have resisted handing over my privacy to (any of) "them".

Bill

On 5/16/11 4:24 PM, Gerald Ross wrote:
Tried it. Didn't like it. Can't cancel it. Best I could do was unfriend
all my "friends" and inactivate my account. But the account is still
there. Sorta like marriage--easier to do than undo.


Click "Account" pull-down tab, upper right of screen...
Click "Account Settings" from selection...
click on "deactivate" on Deactivate Account line near bottom...

http://www.facebook.com/help/?page=842


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Mike Marlow wrote:

i get it that many people use this technology this way - I'm just an old
fart that does not embrace this particular technology this way. I'm glued
to the use of those archaic tecnologies such as texting, etc. Call me an od
fart or something, but that's where I'm at. My kids all use FB and I tried
it, but I am stubborn n refusing it now. What can i say?...


Good for you. I have never even texted (and have no regrets so far). I
Have been reading a couple books, on pdf, written between 1903 and
1907--go figure. I'm beginning to get a handle on figuring this stuff
out: Civilization (technological progress to the n^(th) degree) seems to
be unraveling humanity--at least in the US of A. I'm sure that my
statement can be reasonably be attacked or defended, but I find it an
interesting notion and note examples in my day-to-day life.

Bill

On 5/16/11 5:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Good for you. I have never even texted (and have no regrets so far). I
Have been reading a couple books, on pdf, written between 1903 and
1907--go figure. I'm beginning to get a handle on figuring this stuff
out: Civilization (technological progress to the n^(th) degree) seems to
be unraveling humanity--at least in the US of A. I'm sure that my
statement can be reasonably be attacked or defended, but I find it an
interesting notion and note examples in my day-to-day life.

Bill

Old people have been saying that about every technological advance in
the history of civilization. I'm sure there were old cavemen who said
fire and the wheel would make everyone lazy.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
--
http://mikedrums.com

---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

-MIKE- wrote:
On 5/16/11 5:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Good for you. I have never even texted (and have no regrets so far). I
Have been reading a couple books, on pdf, written between 1903 and
1907--go figure. I'm beginning to get a handle on figuring this stuff
out: Civilization (technological progress to the n^(th) degree) seems to
be unraveling humanity--at least in the US of A. I'm sure that my
statement can be reasonably be attacked or defended, but I find it an
interesting notion and note examples in my day-to-day life.

Bill

Old people have been saying that about every technological advance in
the history of civilization.

I thought of that while I was typing.

I'm sure there were old cavemen who said
fire and the wheel would make everyone lazy.

And how many people in your family could start a fire without a pack or
matches or a lighter if their life depended on it!

Technology seems to breed ignorance--especially such as the "assembly
line"--which devoured the tradesmen whose "lost" skills are coveted by
many of us. Just sayin'.

Bill

On May 16, 4:27*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
Old people have been saying that about every technological advance in
the history of civilization. *I'm sure there were old cavemen who said
fire and the wheel would make everyone lazy.

Laziness is the mother of most invention.

Luigi

On May 16, 10:14*am, Swingman wrote:
RonB wrote:
We have an account but it isn't "mine".

I participated in our high school's scholarship selection process this
year. *The school Principal warned some of the candidates about
Facebook content. *School administrators, counselors, grad school
selection teams and employers are finding way to get access to
Facebook material. *Postings about last night's party, a hangover,
drinking, *or a conquest are ending up is student files; and in
selection processes. *A few months ago I watched an old co-worker get
himself laid off because of less than discreet Facebook comments.

Yeah, I know there will be a rash of comments regarding privacy,
lawsuits, etc. *But at the end of the day, when you put it on the
internet, it is on the internet.

RonB

No problem ... Finished school, before the dumbing down; too old to party
too hard; *any conquest at this point ain't worth the trouble; self
employed.

We need a "like" button on the wreck. :-)

Luigi

On 5/16/2011 4:57 PM, Bill wrote:
Lew Hodgett wrote:
"Mike Marlow" wrote:

FWIW - and it's just my opinion., so it probably isn't worth too
much... I don't do facebook. Just cannot warm to that medium for
interaction.
--------
That makes two of us.

Lew


I too have resisted handing over my privacy to (any of) "them".

Bill

"Privacy" issues in this realm are largely imaginary, amplified by the
hearsay of those with a basic misunderstanding of the issues and
resulting in playing on each others irrational fears.

However, I do agree with you ... some folks should never be allowed near
a computer in the first place.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 5/16/2011 5:19 PM, Bill wrote:

I have never even texted (and have no regrets so far).

That simply means that you statistically don't have a child between 12
and 30. These puppies don't snail mail, email, fax or answer phone calls
.... but they TEXT at the drop of a hat.

You want to communicate in their world, you best learn the linqua
franca, AND method of delivery.

Besides, it's not hard to text/Facebook their young butts off ... really
****es 'em off that you can invade their smug little world at whim.

That said, I don't Twitter ... I feel about Twitter like many of you
profess to feel about FaceBook.

I simply don't find it useful for my purposes.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On 5/16/2011 5:39 PM, Bill wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:

Old people have been saying that about every technological advance in
the history of civilization.

I thought of that while I was typing.

I'm sure there were old cavemen who said
fire and the wheel would make everyone lazy.

And how many people in your family could start a fire without a pack or
matches or a lighter if their life depended on it!

Technology seems to breed ignorance--especially such as the "assembly
line"--which devoured the tradesmen whose "lost" skills are coveted by
many of us. Just sayin'.

Don't look now, but the fact that the average caveman scratched fleas
around an open fire, lost his teeth at 15, and lived to the ripe old age
of 21, BLOWS your "technology seems to breed ignorance" contention
completely out of the water, there Bill!



IOW, if the advancements in quality of life and the increase in healthy
life span through technology is breeding "ignorance", I'll take all you got.

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On 5/16/11 5:57 PM, Swingman wrote:

"Privacy" issues in this realm are largely imaginary, amplified by the
hearsay of those with a basic misunderstanding of the issues and
resulting in playing on each others irrational fears.

However, I do agree with you ... some folks should never be allowed near
a computer in the first place.


"Like"

I never understood the whole "privacy" issue.
These are same people who would complain that someone saw them naked
because they walked out to the mailbox in the nude. :-)


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On 5/16/11 5:39 PM, Bill wrote:
-MIKE- wrote:
On 5/16/11 5:19 PM, Bill wrote:
Good for you. I have never even texted (and have no regrets so far). I
Have been reading a couple books, on pdf, written between 1903 and
1907--go figure. I'm beginning to get a handle on figuring this stuff
out: Civilization (technological progress to the n^(th) degree) seems to
be unraveling humanity--at least in the US of A. I'm sure that my
statement can be reasonably be attacked or defended, but I find it an
interesting notion and note examples in my day-to-day life.

Bill

Old people have been saying that about every technological advance in
the history of civilization.

I thought of that while I was typing.

I'm sure there were old cavemen who said
fire and the wheel would make everyone lazy.

And how many people in your family could start a fire without a pack or
matches or a lighter if their life depended on it!

Technology seems to breed ignorance--especially such as the "assembly
line"--which devoured the tradesmen whose "lost" skills are coveted by
many of us. Just sayin'.

Bill


I understand what you're saying and it's always a good discussion to have.

But there are many lost skills that are simply unneeded anymore, due to
technological advances. Just being lost doesn't add any inherent value
to the skill. All those hand tools that Roy guy on PBS uses are fun and
I'm sure it gives one a sense of accomplishment, but so does mowing the
lawn and I'm sure as heck not going to do it with one of those push mowers.

And if I'm ignorant because I'll use a combination of table saw, band
saw, router, jointer, etc, to make table legs instead of a spokeshave a
draw knife, then I'll revel in my bliss all the live long day.

I couldn't remember how to thread a movie projector if my life depended
on it and it used to be part of what I did for a living. In my lifetime
the keyboard I'm typing on will be obsolete and it won't make stupid
people any more stupid or help anyone be smarter.

I'm ignorant to a whole heap of things that are completely irrelevant.


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On 5/16/11 6:10 PM, Swingman wrote:
That said, I don't Twitter ... I feel about Twitter like many of you
profess to feel about FaceBook.


Like I say about twitter.... I don't use twitter because that comes with
the rather ostentatious presumption that there is someone out there who
gives a crap about what I have to say. :-)


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"Mike Marlow" wrote:
Swingman wrote:


You bet, Bubba ... I use technology, it doesn't use me. He says, as
he sits on a construction site, waiting for a plumbing inspector to
show, while posting on the wRec using an iPad2 ... IOW,
eatcherheartout!

Actually, I was an early adopter of FB to keep up with my daughter in
the UK and my grandsons, and my youngest in college. My youngest
daughter is visiting in the UK now and we have been part of the
entire experience through both FB and Skype. Basically, it's as close
to being there as you can get.

i get it that many people use this technology this way - I'm just an old
fart that does not embrace this particular technology this way. I'm glued
to the use of those archaic tecnologies such as texting, etc. Call me an
od
fart or something, but that's where I'm at. My kids all use FB and I
tried
it, but I am stubborn n refusing it now. What can i say?...

Hey, old farts can still talk on the phone now and then. Y'all headed down
this way anytime this summer?
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Is Facebook still convoluted?

On May 16, 8:19*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
On 5/16/11 6:10 PM, Swingman wrote:

That said, I don't Twitter ... I feel about Twitter like many of you
*profess to feel about FaceBook.

Like I say about twitter.... I don't use twitter because that comes with
the rather ostentatious presumption that there is someone out there who
gives a crap about what I have to say. * :-)


I heard that, bro'.

I hadn't heard it quite that way before, but that is why I don't
'tweet'?