The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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In ,
-MIKE- spewed forth:
The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the
drill and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

My preferences are Milwakee and Bosch.
Picked up a Milwakee 18v Impact here w/ no battery for 59 bucks already had
2 18v batteries
http://www.tooliday.com/

"-MIKE-" wrote in message ...

The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)

@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

If you want dependability consider Panasonic and Makita, in that order.
With Makita stick with the green ones rather than the black and white ones.
Also, an impact does not replace a regular drill driver unless you find one
like the Panasonic that has clutch settings.
Also, in you look at Amazon you can typically buy a drill/driver with out
charger or batteries at a pretty reasonable price to compliment the impact.
My most current brand is Makita, I have owned them before and this is the
only brand that I have gone back to. I recently steered Swingman towards
the Makita and I think he is pretty happy with it.

On Sun, 15 May 2011 14:07:33 -0500, "Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

"-MIKE-" wrote in message ...

The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

Go get yourself a Makita BTD141 kit. I got the heavy duty set because
I often do decks and such. http://goo.gl/ezjit

You might be able to get away with the lighter weight BTD142HW kit.
http://goo.gl/ijcAH

Makita is the Festool of Impacts, complete with built-in lights and a
beautiful aqua MaKtainer.

The BTD144 gives you a couple LEDs and 3 variable speed ranges (which
my variable trigger already has?) for $40 more. It might be a good fit
for cabinet installations. http://goo.gl/o1XLM

You should have a lithium blower as well, for that tiny amount of dust
your Festool HEPA Big Sucker doesn't pick up. http://goo.gl/weMhA
They're not like a plug-in model, but for quick cleanup of small
spaces, they're truly handy. It makes short work of the pickup bed
after a dump run. http://goo.gl/h0BOl save $15 at eBay

--
It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no
distinctively native American criminal class except Congress.
-- Mark Twain

"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote

If you want dependability consider Panasonic and Makita, in that order.
With Makita stick with the green ones rather than the black and white
ones.
Also, an impact does not replace a regular drill driver unless you find
one like the Panasonic that has clutch settings.
Also, in you look at Amazon you can typically buy a drill/driver with out
charger or batteries at a pretty reasonable price to compliment the
impact.
My most current brand is Makita, I have owned them before and this is the
only brand that I have gone back to. I recently steered Swingman towards
the Makita and I think he is pretty happy with it.

----
Yep, I am a Makita fan tool. I bought a bunch of them over the years and
steered friends to them as well. I never had the need for a super
industrial model of anything. But I did not want junk either. Makita did
it for me. I have an old 9.6 volt ni-cad drill with a clutch that will
still drive three inch deck screws into hard joists. That is good enough
for anything I do. I also like the abundance and easy availability of
single tools.

You can get a kit to get a charger and batteries. Then just get what you
need after that. It is amazing that a lot of people don't know that. I
have told this basic bit of information to quite a number of people. Many
people think that rechargeable tools only come in kits and can only be
purchased at the Borg. A web search turns up lots of sources and Amazon is
a favorite once they figure it out.

Some interesting discussions would follow this revelation. Like, what are
all these tools for? Or, who needs all of these tools? I would patiently
explain the function of most of the tools. I must admit though, never have
seem some of them, I was a little unsure to their exact utility. But I
didn't have any problem figuring out what I would use them for!! LOL And
if they thought that the tools were kind of expensive, I just show them some
industrial tools or Festool. That shuts them up.

On 5/15/11 2:07 PM, Leon wrote:
If you want dependability consider Panasonic and Makita, in that order.


I've trusted Panasonic for decades.


With Makita stick with the green ones rather than the black and white ones.


Can you elaborate of that?
Thanks!


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On May 15, 12:43*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

--

* -MIKE-

I have two of the 14.4 Makita Drills, one set included the driver.
The reason I have two is my wife was sure the old one (13-15 years
old?) was going to die about 4 or 5 years ago. She bought a set
including the driver as a Christmas gift then.

Both are performing great. The driver has seen thousands of screws
including 300+ feet of fence and and new house, including deck.
Starting to look a little rough but, outside of one dead charger, no
problems.

RonB

"-MIKE-" wrote in message ...

On 5/15/11 2:07 PM, Leon wrote:
If you want dependability consider Panasonic and Makita, in that order.


I've trusted Panasonic for decades.


With Makita stick with the green ones rather than the black and white
ones.


Can you elaborate of that?
Thanks!

From what I understand the black and white Makita's are targeted more toward
the home owner type user, they tend to be considerably less expensive than
the traditional green ones. They may very suite your needs however
depending on how much and how long you expect to use it.

On 5/15/11 4:11 PM, Leon wrote:
With Makita stick with the green ones rather than the black and white
ones.


Can you elaborate of that?
Thanks!

From what I understand the black and white Makita's are targeted more toward
the home owner type user, they tend to be considerably less expensive than
the traditional green ones. They may very suite your needs however
depending on how much and how long you expect to use it.


On one hand, anything Makita, including their cheaper version, will
likely be a huge step up in reliability from my B&D's. On the other
hand, there doesn't seem to be that much of a price difference between
the two lines.... at least not enough to compel me to buy the lower.


--

-MIKE-

"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com

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On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:06:37 -0400, "Lee Michaels" leemichaels*nadaspam* at
comcast dot net wrote:



"Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote

If you want dependability consider Panasonic and Makita, in that order.
With Makita stick with the green ones rather than the black and white
ones.
Also, an impact does not replace a regular drill driver unless you find
one like the Panasonic that has clutch settings.
Also, in you look at Amazon you can typically buy a drill/driver with out
charger or batteries at a pretty reasonable price to compliment the
impact.
My most current brand is Makita, I have owned them before and this is the
only brand that I have gone back to. I recently steered Swingman towards
the Makita and I think he is pretty happy with it.

----
Yep, I am a Makita fan tool. I bought a bunch of them over the years and
steered friends to them as well. I never had the need for a super
industrial model of anything. But I did not want junk either. Makita did
it for me. I have an old 9.6 volt ni-cad drill with a clutch that will
still drive three inch deck screws into hard joists. That is good enough
for anything I do. I also like the abundance and easy availability of
single tools.

My first drills (12V and a 9.6V right-angle) were Makita. I then bought the
cut-off saw. I haven't bought a Makita since. I then went to a PC
(pre-crapsmaning), which was too heavy, a few DeWalts (too heavy or not enough
power) and now have a bunch (12V and 18V series) of Bosch drills and drivers.
I like them far better than any of the others I've used.

You can get a kit to get a charger and batteries. Then just get what you
need after that. It is amazing that a lot of people don't know that. I
have told this basic bit of information to quite a number of people. Many
people think that rechargeable tools only come in kits and can only be
purchased at the Borg. A web search turns up lots of sources and Amazon is
a favorite once they figure it out.

Sure, but Lowes carries individual tools, also. Home Despot has gone down the
tubes over the last five years or so.

Some interesting discussions would follow this revelation. Like, what are
all these tools for? Or, who needs all of these tools? I would patiently
explain the function of most of the tools. I must admit though, never have
seem some of them, I was a little unsure to their exact utility. But I
didn't have any problem figuring out what I would use them for!! LOL And
if they thought that the tools were kind of expensive, I just show them some
industrial tools or Festool. That shuts them up.

Festool is outrageous for some things. Not so much for others. I'm using
their smaller track saw today, in fact (just taking a break). It really isn't
any more expensive than DeWalt's track saw and there are a lot more
accessories available for it.

"-MIKE-" wrote in message
I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

I'm almost ashamed to admit it since no other respondents mentioned DeWalt,
but that's what I've used for the past several years. In my case, the 18v
models with fairly big heavy batteries. The only reason I'm commenting is
that more recently, I bought my first impact driver, a Dewalt 12v with
lithium ion battery which is more recent technology and a considerably
lighter type of battery. Whatever brand you choose, I suggest you go with
the lithium type of battery which holds a charge longer and charges faster.
If by chance you do choose to go with an 18v impact driver, 18v lithium ion
batteries are also just entering the market.

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
Also had an 18VDC DeWalt drill along with a panel saw. for about 10 years
before it was stolen. Wore out at least 2 sets of batteries.

I'm on my third year of a 6 unit set of cordless DeWalt tools so I haven't
yet approached the wearing out of any of the batteries. Just last month I
had a look at some of the new 18v lithium ion batteries. Half the weight of
the XRP batteries and almost have the size. What I'd like to see is some of
those XRP battery casings retrofitted to hold some of those lithium ion
battery cells. Doubt that's going to happen though. Naturally DeWalt will be
after people buying entirely new cordless tools than just buying new updated
batteries for them.

ChairMan wrote:
In ,
-MIKE- spewed forth:
The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the
drill and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

My preferences are Milwakee and Bosch.
Picked up a Milwakee 18v Impact here w/ no battery for 59 bucks
already had 2 18v batteries
http://www.tooliday.com/

I second the Milwaukee, have the 12V impact and driver and sawzall used on
almost a daily basis and they work great. The impact is perfect for driving
tek screws into metal cabinets.

--
PV

If you can't fix it with a hammer.......you have an electrical problem

-MIKE- wrote:

The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!


Makita 18 volt use it everyday. Its light and strong. Bought the Impact too
and love it. Was an old PC user but their new ones suck! Amazon.com is the
place to get em. I do and would like to try the Bosch and Milwaukee someday.
But stuck on Makita for now!!!
--
"You can lead them to LINUX
but you can't make them THINK"

Man. 2010.1 Spring
KDE4.4
2.6.33.5-desktop-2mnb

"-MIKE-" wrote in message
...
The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

-MIKE-

I agree with those who recommend Makita or Milwaukee.
I have the drill and impact driver in 18v by Makita and in 12V by
Milwaukee.
BUT if I were buying now I would be sure to get an impact driver that has a
clutch.
I broke a lot of screw heads off before I learned not to "impact" too much.
And I'm using McFeeley's screws.

Max

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:


Sure, but Lowes carries individual tools, also. Home Despot has gone
down the tubes over the last five years or so.


Home Depot carries the individual tools as well. So do other merchants.

--

-Mike-

Upscale wrote:


I'm almost ashamed to admit it since no other respondents mentioned
DeWalt, but that's what I've used for the past several years. In my
case, the 18v models with fairly big heavy batteries. The only reason
I'm commenting is that more recently, I bought my first impact
driver, a Dewalt 12v with lithium ion battery which is more recent
technology and a considerably lighter type of battery. Whatever
brand you choose, I suggest you go with the lithium type of battery
which holds a charge longer and charges faster. If by chance you do
choose to go with an 18v impact driver, 18v lithium ion batteries are
also just entering the market.

I had a 12v DeWalt that I really liked. Used it for years. Nice fit in my
hand and balance. It sucked for battery life since the day I owned it
though, and as it aged, of course it only got worse. I was going to send
the battery(s) out for reman to one of the sites on the net, and have them
re-man'd with LI, but then I was given a Ridgid kit for Christmas, so I
passed the DeWalt to my son. Almost wish I'd kept it just to have it
around. Can never have to many screw guns...

--

-Mike-

Upscale wrote:
"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
Also had an 18VDC DeWalt drill along with a panel saw. for about 10
years before it was stolen. Wore out at least 2 sets of batteries.

I'm on my third year of a 6 unit set of cordless DeWalt tools so I
haven't yet approached the wearing out of any of the batteries. Just
last month I had a look at some of the new 18v lithium ion batteries.
Half the weight of the XRP batteries and almost have the size. What
I'd like to see is some of those XRP battery casings retrofitted to
hold some of those lithium ion battery cells. Doubt that's going to
happen though. Naturally DeWalt will be after people buying entirely
new cordless tools than just buying new updated batteries for them.

Check the net. Lots of places will re-man them with LI for very reasonable
prices.

--

-Mike-

On 5/15/2011 12:43 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

Have the 18v Makita combo (drill and impact driver) and am really
enjoying it in everyday use. Strong, lightweight, batteries charge in 15
minutes. So far neither has balked at any job I've thrown at them.

Bought the Impact driver at HD and it came with two batteries; bought
the Drill off Amazon with no battery, to fill the other spot in the case.

--
www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 4/15/2010
KarlC@ (the obvious)

On May 15, 1:43*pm, -MIKE- wrote:
The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

--

* -MIKE-

* "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
* * *--Elvin Jones *(1927-2004)
* --
*http://mikedrums.com
*
* ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply

Not a smoking deal but Lowes has the DeWalt 12V LI drill and impact
driver for $200. The LI drill seems to have as much power as the 18V
at half the weight. The drills are so tiny and light they feel like a
toy but they work great.

Currently Lowes will also throw in a third battery or a work light
with the LI kit. If you are not screwing down deck boards I doubt
you'll ever need the 3rd battery since they charge so quickly.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_83525-70-DCK...0051&langId=-1

On Sun, 15 May 2011 20:05:09 -0400, "Upscale"
wrote:


"-MIKE-" wrote in message
I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!

I'm almost ashamed to admit it since no other respondents mentioned DeWalt,
but that's what I've used for the past several years. In my case, the 18v
models with fairly big heavy batteries. The only reason I'm commenting is
that more recently, I bought my first impact driver, a Dewalt 12v with
lithium ion battery which is more recent technology and a considerably
lighter type of battery. Whatever brand you choose, I suggest you go with
the lithium type of battery which holds a charge longer and charges faster.
If by chance you do choose to go with an 18v impact driver, 18v lithium ion
batteries are also just entering the market.


I had a DeWalt 14.4 volt that I used for over 10 years. When the
batteries died I bought a Panasonic 18 volt. After about two years of
use both batteries died. Replacement batteries for the Panasonic are
not available locally and on-line prices are about $95 each.

I bought a new Dewalt 18 volt drill instead. It cost me less than two
of the Panasonic batteries and the DeWalt batteries are readily
available at a considerably lower cost.
--
Jack Novak
Buffalo, NY - USA

On 5/16/11 12:48 PM, Charlie Groh wrote:
I recently had a few batteries rebuilt; two for my 15v Panasonic
drill/driver, two for my Makita 9v (which I use the heck out of, mostly
that little reciprocating saw), and another for my *olde* DeWalt 14v set
that I use in the shop primarily. I think I'll be getting batteries
rebuilt rather than buying new tools, at least for the time being. The
rebuild technology is very, very good...they come back with more pop
than the originals and the process costs 50% or so less than buying new.
I used an outfit called Primecell and wouldn't hesitate to recommend the
service...

cg

If you really want to save money, you can buy the cells and rebuild them
yourself.
It helps to own a small spot welder, but it can be done without.


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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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http://mikedrums.com

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Limp Arbor wrote:

Not a smoking deal but Lowes has the DeWalt 12V LI drill and impact
driver for $200. The LI drill seems to have as much power as the 18V
at half the weight. The drills are so tiny and light they feel like a
toy but they work great.

Clearly, you are right - not a smokin' deal.


Currently Lowes will also throw in a third battery or a work light
with the LI kit. If you are not screwing down deck boards I doubt
you'll ever need the 3rd battery since they charge so quickly.


A third battery is always worth the "effort".

--

-Mike-

On Mon, 16 May 2011 05:49:51 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

wrote:


Sure, but Lowes carries individual tools, also. Home Despot has gone
down the tubes over the last five years or so.


Home Depot carries the individual tools as well. So do other merchants.

The HD here carries damn few of them. The only brand they carry any variety
of is Ryobi. The Lowes across the street carries pretty much the whole line
of all the big players, right down to the boom boxes.

On Sun, 15 May 2011 16:11:21 -0500, "Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote:

"-MIKE-" wrote in message ...

On 5/15/11 2:07 PM, Leon wrote:
If you want dependability consider Panasonic and Makita, in that order.


I've trusted Panasonic for decades.



Another vote for looking at a Panasonic. Bought a 12V one for SWMBO about 4.5
years ago, and it is still going strong. Granted, she doesn't use it day in or
day out, but I've found I use it as much as my 18v Dewalt. The thing just FEELS
so much better built than the Dewalt.

Regards,
Roy

Subject

SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger & case.

Item: 300250.

Lew

On 5/16/11 11:23 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger& case.

Item: 300250.

Lew

I saw the boxes when I was at Lowes, today.
Can't help but wonder if it's a cheaper version, for bait, or a loss
leader... for bait.
It's tempting, either way.


--

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"Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life"
--Elvin Jones (1927-2004)
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On Mon, 16 May 2011 23:27:15 -0500, -MIKE- wrote:

On 5/16/11 11:23 PM, Lew Hodgett wrote:
Subject

SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger& case.

Item: 300250.

Lew

I saw the boxes when I was at Lowes, today.
Can't help but wonder if it's a cheaper version, for bait, or a loss
leader... for bait.

It's not. I got the 18V drill and Impactor for $199 at Christmas time. Very
nice tools but when I don't need the torque I still prefer the 12V versions.

It's tempting, either way.

Good price. Highly recommended.

Subject

SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger & case.

Item: 300250.

Lew

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 05:49:51 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:


Sure, but Lowes carries individual tools, also. Home Despot has
gone down the tubes over the last five years or so.


Home Depot carries the individual tools as well. So do other
merchants.

The HD here carries damn few of them. The only brand they carry any
variety of is Ryobi. The Lowes across the street carries pretty much
the whole line of all the big players, right down to the boom boxes.

That's actually quite surprising. Usually the big stores like HD and Lowes
are very standardized on what they carry. Most HD stores - no... all HD
stores around here sell the individual pieces.

--

-Mike-

Rich wrote in :

Makita 18 volt use it everyday. Its light and strong. Bought the
Impact too and love it. Was an old PC user but their new ones suck!
Amazon.com is the place to get em. I do and would like to try the
Bosch and Milwaukee someday. But stuck on Makita for now!!!

I picked up my kit from Amazon as well. A combo drill/driver kit will
probably cost less than the individual tools combined, not to mention come
with multiple batteries.

At the time, the Makita LCT300W with light was cheaper than the LCT200W
without light. Same tools, just one had a light. Glad I got that light,
it's come in handy several times. (We drained one battery on it last
night, and started work on a second.)

Puckdropper

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
b.com...

Subject

SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger & case.

Item: 300250.

Lew



@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


Some how or another I must have won a Bosch Impactor impact driver 2~3 years
ago, It showed up on my door step addressed to me with a return address
direct from Bosch. No other information. Anyway it is an 18 volt version
with 2 batteries, charger and case. I already had a 12 volt Makita. Both
are ready to be used at any time however I always reach for the Makita.
I am not sure what it is but the Makita just feels better and is still my
preferred tool to use.

"Rich" wrote in message ...

-MIKE- wrote:

The disposable B&D cordless set I bought several years ago is finally
biting the dust.
I got more than my money's worth out of it and actually loved the drill
and sawzall.

I think I like the idea of an impact driver this time around.
If anyone sees any killer deals on cordless packages or even singles,
please post them!


Makita 18 volt use it everyday. Its light and strong. Bought the Impact too
and love it. Was an old PC user but their new ones suck! Amazon.com is the
place to get em. I do and would like to try the Bosch and Milwaukee someday.
But stuck on Makita for now!!!

@@@@@@@@@@@@


FWIW I own a 12 volt Makita impact and a 18 volt Bosch Impactor. I prefer
the Makita.

On Tue, 17 May 2011 07:18:01 -0500, "Leon" lcb11211@swbelldotnet
wrote:

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message
eb.com...

Subject

SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger & case.

Item: 300250.

That's an excellent deal, Lew. Wow, 1/2" chuck, too!


@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@


Some how or another I must have won a Bosch Impactor impact driver 2~3 years
ago, It showed up on my door step addressed to me with a return address
direct from Bosch. No other information. Anyway it is an 18 volt version
with 2 batteries, charger and case. I already had a 12 volt Makita. Both
are ready to be used at any time however I always reach for the Makita.
I am not sure what it is but the Makita just feels better and is still my
preferred tool to use.

I ran a Bosch 14.4v Impactor happily for 3 years when the Makita 18v
LIons came out, so I got one. I should probably sell that Bosch. I had
thought the batteries were slowing down, but I had a client who wanted
to help me put up his new porch, so I loaned the Bosch to him for the
day and it kept right up with the Makita.

Both companies (and all their tools) get A+ ratings from me.

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On 5/17/11 12:38 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Mon, 16 May 2011 05:49:51 -0400, "Mike Marlow"
wrote:

zzzzzzzzzz wrote:


Sure, but Lowes carries individual tools, also. Home Despot has
gone down the tubes over the last five years or so.


Home Depot carries the individual tools as well. So do other
merchants.

The HD here carries damn few of them. The only brand they carry any
variety of is Ryobi. The Lowes across the street carries pretty much
the whole line of all the big players, right down to the boom boxes.

That's actually quite surprising. Usually the big stores like HD and Lowes
are very standardized on what they carry. Most HD stores - no... all HD
stores around here sell the individual pieces.


That's something that ****es me off, actually. I know I am spoiled by
having a combination of probably 16 Lowes/HD's within a 20 minute
drive... but it gets frustrating that they don't all carry the same stuff.

If you have a job on the north side and you usually work on the south
side, you walk into the Lowes expecting them to have XYZ and they
don't... they have ABC.
I went into a Lowes 15 miles from my house and happily found stacks of
cedar and doug fir that the one 1.5 mile from my house doesn't carry.


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I ended up getting this one from Lowes... the Bosch - 36618-02.
Turns out 99 bucks was a darn good deal, as they are back up to $179 on
the website.
The batteries came, charged. That's already a plus in my book. :-)

I've heard reviews about lithium ion batteries not lasting as long...
we'll see how that goes.

http://xrl.us/Bosch36618

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message


SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger& case.

Item: 300250.

Lew


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On Wed, 25 May 2011 21:11:29 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote:

I ended up getting this one from Lowes... the Bosch - 36618-02.
Turns out 99 bucks was a darn good deal, as they are back up to $179 on
the website.
The batteries came, charged. That's already a plus in my book. :-)

I've heard reviews about lithium ion batteries not lasting as long...
we'll see how that goes.


Can't be any worse than the Nicads on my last 3. Dead if left for
more than 6 weeks - and wouldn't take or hold a charge after 3 or 4
years... My Lithium drill can sit on the shelf or 3 months and still
have a good head of steam.
http://xrl.us/Bosch36618

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message


SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger& case.

Item: 300250.

Lew

My Lithium didn't last a summer. The high heat in the shop
kills the battery.

I hate to keep my tools in the house or create a special room
with refrigeration.

Martin

On 5/25/2011 9:31 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 25 May 2011 21:11:29 -0500,
wrote:

I ended up getting this one from Lowes... the Bosch - 36618-02.
Turns out 99 bucks was a darn good deal, as they are back up to $179 on
the website.
The batteries came, charged. That's already a plus in my book. :-)

I've heard reviews about lithium ion batteries not lasting as long...
we'll see how that goes.


Can't be any worse than the Nicads on my last 3. Dead if left for
more than 6 weeks - and wouldn't take or hold a charge after 3 or 4
years... My Lithium drill can sit on the shelf or 3 months and still
have a good head of steam.
http://xrl.us/Bosch36618

"Lew Hodgett" wrote in message


SFWIW, Lowes has a mailer out today that has an 18V lithium ion Bosch
drill for $99.

Includes 2 batteries, charger& case.

Item: 300250.

Lew

-MIKE- wrote:
I ended up getting this one from Lowes... the Bosch - 36618-02.
Turns out 99 bucks was a darn good deal, as they are back up to $179
on the website.
The batteries came, charged. That's already a plus in my book. :-)


For the most part - all batteries come " charged" right out of the box. Not
necessarily fully charged, but certainly charged.

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-Mike-

On 5/25/2011 9:57 PM, Martin Eastburn wrote:
My Lithium didn't last a summer. The high heat in the shop
kills the battery.

I hate to keep my tools in the house or create a special room
with refrigeration.

I don't know how a DIY outfit like the current Skil brand does it, but
I've had the original for about three years and can't kill the damn
thing. It stays in the tool bag behind the seat of the truck in all
kinds of weather, always has a charge, even weeks after use, and has
just the right amount of torque to drive hinge and drawer slide screws
into plywood and mdf without stripping, and perfect for tight spots.

http://www.amazon.com/SKIL-Cordless-..._ob_hi_title_1

Festool should be so lucky ...

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