I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.


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Chris Melluish

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

What do you want to do with it, Chris?

Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need to be thinking of
something in excess of £100. It is better to go for a lower voltage
quality make rather than a higher voltage cheap one. You have just
seen a case of what happens. Cheap batteries are used and they are
just not up to the job.

At the £50 price point, a corded drill is going to be more effective -
so one strategy is to go for a corded drill for the heavier work and a
smaller cordless for when you need it.




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..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to
be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes.
It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go
for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

What do you want to do with it, Chris?

Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need to be thinking of
something in excess of £100.

Matt, not so. It just gave the Wickes models at under £100. I suppose they
don't register on your power tool radar because they rebaged tools from
branded makes. Got to have the designer label man. I bet you wear a Rolex
watch as well. Do you have a crocodile on your shirts as well?

In article ews.net,
Doctor Drivel wrote:
Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need to be thinking of
something in excess of £100.

Matt, not so. It just gave the Wickes models at under £100.

Can anyone translate Zog?

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*Sorry, I don't date outside my species.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:13:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to
be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes.
It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go
for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

What do you want to do with it, Chris?

Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need to be thinking of
something in excess of £100.

Matt, not so. It just gave the Wickes models at under £100.

You'd better discuss that with Matt. I was talking about
quality.....


--

..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:13:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed
to
be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three
minutes.
It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I
go
for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

What do you want to do with it, Chris?

Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need to be thinking of
something in excess of £100.

Matt, not so. I just gave the Wickes models at under £100.

You'd better discuss that with Matt. I was talking about
quality.....

Matt you were not on about quality, you were on about brand labels. I am on
about quality.

Matt just look at the Kress detachable angle chuck drill in Wickes, a
quality item indeed.. You can have 5 of those for a Festool.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 15:17:00 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:13:39 -0000, "Doctor Drivel"
wrote:


"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed
to
be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three
minutes.
It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I
go
for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

What do you want to do with it, Chris?

Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need to be thinking of
something in excess of £100.

Matt, not so. I just gave the Wickes models at under £100.

You'd better discuss that with Matt. I was talking about
quality.....

Matt you were not on about quality, you were on about brand labels.

I don't know about Matt, but if you look back at what I said, product
names weren't mentioned at all until you talked about Wickes.

I am on
about quality.

You're certainly on something.



Matt just look at the Kress detachable angle chuck drill in Wickes, a
quality item indeed.. You can have 5 of those for a Festool.


.... and this has what relevance exactly?


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..andy

"Andy Hall" aka Matt wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC
and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery
lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q
PP Pro at £30, or should I go for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

What do you want to do with it, Chris?

Really to get a quality cordless drill, you need
to be thinking of something in excess of £100.

********, Matt!!!! Designer label Matt again.

Go for the Kress/Wickes angle drill attachment job at £95. Two drills in
one. Knocks cobs off a Makita all around, in price, quality and
functionality.

Matt is brainwahsed. Sad but true.

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go
for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

Screwfix do a 12v Ryobi with two batteries. Only down side is 3 hours
charge time.
They also do a 18V for £60 if you can stretch again only 3 hr charge.

Wickes are worth a look as they are having a sale. £72 gets you a pro
quality 2 battery 15.5 v drill/hammer 2 hr charge. I see Wickes now sell
the Kress drill (rebadged Wickes) with the angle chuck attachment for £95.

Wickes also have a DIY range (in black). Some decent models amongst them.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to
be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes.
It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go
for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

Screwfix do a 12v Ryobi with two batteries. Only down side is 3 hours
charge time.
They also do a 18V for £60 if you can stretch again only 3 hr charge.

Wickes are worth a look as they are having a sale. £72 gets you a pro
quality 2 battery 15.5 v drill/hammer 2 hr charge. I see Wickes now sell
the Kress drill (rebadged Wickes) with the angle chuck attachment for £95.

Wickes also have a DIY range (in black). Some decent models amongst them.

depends on what you are drilling as I have a cheap 18v job from B&Q and its
ok for most jobs but forget concrete just to slow

On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 23:43:05 +0000 (UTC), "Chris Melluish"
wrote:

I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go for
a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.

I got the PProo - it was crap, I took it back, 7 hour recharge, no
overcharge protection, drilled about 2 holes before needing a
recharge.

I then went for the DeWalt 18v Hammer Drill driver, with dual
barreries. I got it on import from the US, at arround 160 quid all in.
I leave one battery in the charger, one on the drill. I bolted down my
roof with it, which uses 170mmx10mm coach screws.

I am very very pleased with it - I only wish it would brew up as well.

Rick

i would go with a Ridgid dude. they have lifetime warranties. that is
just unheard of in cordless powertools. but i would buy it now before
they quit that deal.

Apologies if this is mentioned elsewhere in this huge thread ;-) but if you
find a B&Q that's about to shut down in January, they all seem to be dumping
their power tools.

My local one has 50% off many makes.

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go
for a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.


--
Chris Melluish

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should I go
for a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.


--
Chris Melluish

If you don't want to spend over £50 on a drill driver, it may be worth
considering the 14.4 volt Erbauer from Screwfix, it comes with 2 x 1.5 amp
batteries and a 1 hour charger for £39.99.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...41744&id=61854

I honestly wouldnt advise buying any Power Performance power tool!
Unless you only wanna use it the once! Most of the PP products get
returned!

Kaiser wrote:
"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
I tried a Nupower special offer from CPC and although it is supposed to be
24V it is absolutely gutless and the battery lasts about three minutes. It
was cheap, though.

Is it worth getting something like the B&Q PP Pro at £30, or should Igo
for a quality make.

I was hoping not to spend more then about £50 or so.


--
Chris Melluish

If you don't want to spend over £50 on a drill driver, it may be worth
considering the 14.4 volt Erbauer from Screwfix, it comes with 2 x 1.5 amp
batteries and a 1 hour charger for £39.99.

http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/...41744&id=61854

"parsoa02" wrote in message
oups.com...

I honestly wouldnt advise buying any Power Performance power tool!
Unless you only wanna use it the once! Most of the PP products get
returned!


The are PP and PP Pro, two different quality levels.

OP here.

I bought the Wickes 15.6V model with removable chuck and angled chuck
attachment, although at £95 it was more than I intended to spend. I have
several times needed an angled screwdriver but considered them too expensive
for occasional use.

I had already looked in Wickes but had not noticed that this one model out
of ten or so had this feature. They are not exactly advertising it.

Thanks to Doctor Drivel for the tip.

--
Chris Melluish

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
OP here.

I bought the Wickes 15.6V model with removable chuck and angled chuck
attachment, although at £95 it was more than I intended to spend. I have
several times needed an angled screwdriver but considered them too
expensive
for occasional use.

This drill is a class act. It gets in tighter than a dedicated angle drill.
The angle can be locked in any position, is that the case with yours?
Driver bits can be inserted in the angle attachment direct, without the
chuck fitted and also into the drill body too. This saves on those expensive
quick change chuck attachments you see for around £50. Those square shanked
drills and driver bits don't need a chuck.

I had already looked in Wickes but had not noticed that this one model out
of ten or so had this feature. They are not exactly advertising it.

Thanks to Doctor Drivel for the tip.

I was talking to the manager about the drill and he knew little about it;
well it is new to Wickes. I had to explain to him the features. He thanked
me. He knew it was a Kress, that was about all. He agreed that they were
underselling the drill. How many have walked past and ignored it thinking
it was just another drill/driver? He said most of the trade tend to buy the
black DIY range rather than the professional range. I didn't ask what they
do about the guarantee when a drill has clearly been on site for 8 hours a
day that was not designed to do so. He said returns were low though.

"Doctor Drivel" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
OP here.

I bought the Wickes 15.6V model with removable chuck and angled chuck
attachment, although at £95 it was more than I intended to spend. I have
several times needed an angled screwdriver but considered them too
expensive
for occasional use.

This drill is a class act. It gets in tighter than a dedicated angle
drill.
The angle can be locked in any position, is that the case with yours?

16 positions - i.e. every 22.5 degrees.

--
Chris Melluish

"Chris Melluish" wrote in message
...
OP here.

I bought the Wickes 15.6V model with removable chuck and angled chuck
attachment, although at £95 it was more than I intended to spend.

It normally costs £130.