2nd job?

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In article , "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote:
DexAZ wrote:

Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.


Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell her
to shut up and get you a beer.

You're single, right? g

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In article . net, "DexAZ" wrote:

Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.

Works that way for us too. 19 years (in June) and counting.

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"DexAZ" wrote:

Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married,
we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we
spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.

You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
medications. Talk about tough choices.

In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her the
medication.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message

You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
medications. Talk about tough choices.

In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her
the
medication.

Good call and shows much wisdom on your part. Same applies for doing the
dishes, laundry, taking out the trash, mopping floors, etc. ... gotta take
care of your SWMBO, a good one is expensive to replace.

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On Sat 21 Feb 2004 09:32:37a, (Doug Miller) wrote in
news
Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we
married, we became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked
for us for 32 years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as
well as what we spend on new furniture etc. May not work for others
but it works for us.

Works that way for us too. 19 years (in June) and counting.


SWMBO and I have only been at this for five or six years. We each have a
separate savings and checking plus a "house" checking account so we can
easily see how much we have for toys. I try to put all my tool purchases on
my accounts but sometimes a deal is too good to pass up and she doesn't
mind when I pull some of it out of the house money.

It's a joy to hear her say she feels comfortable with my tool purchases
because it's easy to see I'm looking for the best deal I can find on tools
that are justifiable, ie I'm not throwing money at crap or expensive stuff
I'll hardly ever use. Given that I appear to have a case of arrested
development and at 53 can say I'm probably not going to completely grow up,
it's nice to have that validation. :-)

Especially when I'm about to spend three or four hundred on classes at
Woodcraft between now and mid-May.

Only thing is, now that she knows about the Wreck, she wants a SWMBO t-
shirt.

Dan

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 10:27:42 -0600, "Swingman" wrote:

|"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
|
| You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
| bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
| medications. Talk about tough choices.
|
| In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her
|the
| medication.
|
|Good call and shows much wisdom on your part. Same applies for doing the
|dishes, laundry, taking out the trash, mopping floors, etc. ... gotta take
|care of your SWMBO, a good one is expensive to replace.

Boy, you can say that again. Been there, done that.

On Sat, 21 Feb 2004 11:03:26 GMT, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
wrote:

DexAZ wrote:

Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.


Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell her
to shut up and get you a beer.



I did a job in a house where the parrot had learned to say just that.
dismal place, unpleasant people.

You should have gotten some placebo sugar pills for your wifes heart
problem, she would be happy and then you could have gotten the router
bitt too, and both of you are happy!!!



Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
"DexAZ" wrote:

Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married,

we

became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we

spend

on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.


You have to set priorities. Just a few weeks ago, I wanted a new router
bit, but my wife needed to refill the prescription for her heart
medications. Talk about tough choices.

In the end, I figured she makes me breakfast every morning so I got her the
medication.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome

ok, 5 or 6 years at it and age of 53. Either this is not the first one
or you are really a late bloomer.


SWMBO and I have only been at this for five or six years. We each have a
separate savings and checking plus a "house" checking account so we can
easily see how much we have for toys. I try to put all my tool purchases on
my accounts but sometimes a deal is too good to pass up and she doesn't
mind when I pull some of it out of the house money.

It's a joy to hear her say she feels comfortable with my tool purchases
because it's easy to see I'm looking for the best deal I can find on tools
that are justifiable, ie I'm not throwing money at crap or expensive stuff
I'll hardly ever use. Given that I appear to have a case of arrested
development and at 53 can say I'm probably not going to completely grow up,
it's nice to have that validation. :-)

exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
in a marriage.

If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.

DexAZ wrote:
"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
. com...

"Keith Carlson" wrote in message


Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?



Nope, no need to. When I want something I buy it if I have the money. No
one complains about it.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we married, we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.

DexAZ

In rec.woodworking
Mapdude wrote:

exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
in a marriage.

Well, we had regular fights about money until we did that 15 years ago.
Now we never fight about money. If she wants a dress or some girly thing
and has the money, she buys it. I do the same. Everyone is happy. The
only thing we discuss is debt because that affects both. We have both
agreed to not take on any debt so if she buys something with a Visa, she
better pay it at the end of the month.

It works for us.

On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:39:46a, Mapdude wrote in
:

ok, 5 or 6 years at it and age of 53. Either this is not the first one
or you are really a late bloomer.


Both.

On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:42:55a, Mapdude wrote in
:

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.

I do.

Birthday and Christmas presents.

"Dan" wrote in message
...
On Sat 21 Feb 2004 09:32:37a, (Doug Miller) wrote in
news Only thing is, now that she knows about the Wreck, she wants a SWMBO t-
shirt.
Here you go Larry!

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"Mapdude" wrote in message
exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
in a marriage.

If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.

Sorry, mapdude, but it ain't always like you think got it pegged.

NO way in hell I'd ever be on a joint checking account with SWMBO, and I
love her dearly!

I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know exactly
how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times. She, on the other hand,
thinks that if she has checks she's rich, "dipsticks" her account about once
every three or four years, or whenever she realizes that she has more
overdraft protection charges than she thought.

Let me put it this way ... she has a safety net in life, ME! ... I don't.

I have separate accounts because I figure I owe it to her to be more precise
in economic matter than she was originally built for ... doesn't have a damn
thing to do with "hiding" anything!

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In rec.woodworking
Dan wrote:

On Sat 21 Feb 2004 11:42:55a, Mapdude wrote in
:

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.

I do.

Birthday and Christmas presents.

You know, he's wrong anyway. My W has the password to my checking account
and she even pays the bills out of it for me. There is nothing to hide.

Her account OTOH, I haven't seen in years and couldn't even tell you the
balance. Maybe I better look into that LOL

My wife and I have separate accounts to AVOID financially related
arguments like, "you FORGOT to record a check again *&^%!". We've had
separate accounts since day one. Works great. My first wife and I
shared accounts and it was a PITA. Separate doesn't mean secret, it
just means each account is managed by just ONE person. Truthful people
don't have secrets to hide. Perhaps you aren't truthful, so you think
everyone else has "something" to hide??

dave

Mapdude wrote:

exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
in a marriage.

If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.

DexAZ wrote:

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
. com...

"Keith Carlson" wrote in message


Doesn't anyone here use separate accounts?



Nope, no need to. When I want something I buy it if I have the
money. No
one complains about it.
Ed

http://pages.cthome.net/edhome


Never had enough $ between us to put in two accounts. When we
married, we
became "partners" in life, love _and_ finances. Worked for us for 32
years...so far. We talk over new tool investments as well as what we
spend
on new furniture etc. May not work for others but it works for us.

DexAZ

how much are they running now? I used to be a Gold Wing owner who got
sticker shock when I checked a few years ago on the prices: $16,000 and
some change! I paid $2,500 for mine, new, in '75, which was the first
year they were produced. Sure miss that sucker! Had a 4 speaker stereo
that I installed into the Vetter fairing. Had a Pioneer SuperTuner
mounted on a slide mount on the handlebars, a power booster mounted on
top of that (Audiovox- cheap, very small, and effective), 4x10
woofer/midranges and tweeters mounted such that their sound bounced off
the windshield up toward my awaiting ears. Those were the days!

dave

Greg O wrote:

"Silvan" wrote in message
...

I can't top that one. Besides... A dust collector, a planer AND a

jointer

in one shot? No wonder she's ****ed. Sounds to me like the OP got

greedy.



It ain't nothing!
I bought a DW733 planer, Jet closed stand jointer, HF $150 dust collector,
Bosch jig saw, and a Jet dove tail jig, all within about two months earlier
this winter. No problems from the Mrs., just gotta build her something!

The final (pre)-gloat to top it off, I have been dreaming about a motorcycle
as our kid is old enough, and pretty self sufficiant to be on her own, and
mom and I can go riding togather. Anyway SWMBO figured it was a good idea
too, so I have been doing some drooling at the local Harley Davidson dealer
too! Just trying to pry the moldy money out of my wallet!
Greg

"Silvan" wrote in message
...
ClemsonDave wrote:

offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?

One word ---- Tongue!

ROTFLMAO!!!

I can't top that one. Besides... A dust collector, a planer AND a
jointer
in one shot? No wonder she's ****ed. Sounds to me like the OP got
greedy.

I'd be totally dead if I bought all three at once. That's something like 6
grand from my perspective. Buying a used Wood-Mizer was bad enough.

Jon E

"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message
...


If it is then so is this: My wife tells me to go buy tools even if I
haven't expressed a personal interest in buying them... She must have
mentioned that I need
a lathe about ten times in the past month and I only upgraded to the Jet
cabinet saw in early January!

Tell 'er you need the big Oneway. I can't believe how many guys in the club
have one.

I think this latest push is because when I come home from the woodworking
club meetings I tell her about the latest wonders that
guys in the club showed that night. To give you an idea of the caliber of
the work one of the guys had a segmented turning in FWW last year and will
be on HGTV this spring (I think it will be on Modern Masters???). Last
night
a guy in his late 80s gave a guest presentation of some of the most
amazing
work any of us had ever seen. He has won awards for his clocks, e.g.,
"most
complicated movement" and has some on display in museums. He also made
myriad other very complicated and extremely well executed items that
involved turnings.

Ain't it great? Our (collective) club has to be some of the most talented
woodworkers in the country. I can't wait 'til Showcase.

Jon E

"NoNameAtAll" wrote in message
...
I've had my eye on a dust collector, jointer, and planer for quite some
time,
and all three went on sale recently. In the case of the planer there was
also a
rebate that expired until this past weekend. I was afraid if I didn't jump
on
these items they'd jack up the prices and I'd be out of luck. As it
happened,
all three were on significant backorders already. So I talked my wife into
letting me order all three with the understanding that they wouldn't ship
for
quite a while (and hence we wouldn't be billed for quite a while), and
that we
could even cancel them if we decide we can't afford them.

Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?

Yeah. What did she get you for Valentine's Day? Tell her to consider it
her gift to you that she won't give you any crap about the purchases, and
then make it up to her over time by actually building something.

I have thousands of dollars invested in my shop, and over the next year I'll
be putting a few thousand more into the shop. What does my wife get out of
the deal? A new timberframe house. I tell her that for every dollar I spend
on woodworking stuff, I could be spending it instead on smokes, beer, junk
food, or something else she *really* hates. It's also either that or I sit
my ass in front of the TV and watch something really stupid like NASCAR or
football.

Jon E

Jon Endres, PE wrote:


It's also either that or I sit my ass in front of the TV and
watch something really stupid like NASCAR or football.

Whoa! Not so fast! During football season the portable TV's Sunday home is
out in the shop with me. g

-- Mark

Doug Miller wrote:

Obviously not. You need to reestablish the natural order of things. Tell
her to shut up and get you a beer.

You're single, right? g


I am now.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN


http://www.mortimerschnerd.com

you just had to go and say that didn't you? that was a fact I've been
trying to deny for some time now. I wanted tools so i started earning money
with them so i could buy more tools.....good news is I've acquired quite a
shop and my wife can't complain cause I've paid for all the tools and then
some. Bad news is it's become a second job and now I've been forced to
depreciate tools against earnings for the IRS so i'm locked in to doing this
for a minimum of 7 years.....

Swingman wrote:


I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know exactly
how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times. She, on the other hand,
thinks that if she has checks she's rich, "dipsticks" her account about once
every three or four years, or whenever she realizes that she has more
overdraft protection charges than she thought.




I used to keep meticulous records of how much was in my checking
and savings accounts but for the last 8 plus years haven't written a
single entry into the check register. The only time I open my bank
statement is at the end of the year to see how much interest I earned to
claim it on my tax returns. I go to the bank every two weeks to deposit
most of my paycheck and I look at the receipt to see that I have "X"
amount to play with minus the $100.00 minimum to avoid a monthly charge.
I know, I know. That's just not the way I am supposed to be doing
that, I could be 'taken', etc, etc. but that's my way, for right now.

Comments?

"nunya" wrote in message
Swingman wrote:

I balance my checkbook(s) every time I log onto my accounts and know
exactly
how much money I have, to the penny, at ALL times.

I used to keep meticulous records of how much was in my checking
and savings accounts but for the last 8 plus years haven't written a
single entry into the check register.

Comments?

Yep. You likely have a more predictable income than I ... when you're self
employed, keeping a vigilant watch on cash flow and financial issues is the
key to making it work ... with all due thanks to computers and software, at
least since 1978.

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Mapdude wrote:



If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books for
each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage, then
you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.



Not hardly 'pure and simple'.

I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has control
issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of his wives life
because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and simple.






--

Mark

N.E. Ohio


Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens, A.K.A.
Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the suspense.
(Gaz, r.moto)

Look at goldwings...lot less money than a harley of
not-quite-as-well-equipped, and a lot more comfortable to boot.

John

In ,
Mark typed:
Mapdude wrote:



If you go into business with a partner, do you keep separate books
for each guy (if everything is on the up and up I mean)?

I just think if you keep separate account and books in a marriage,
then you got something you want to hide. Pure and simple.



Not hardly 'pure and simple'.

I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has
control issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of
his wives life because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and
simple.


And vice versa.....

In article , Mark
wrote:

Not hardly 'pure and simple'.

I could state that a husband who insists on only joint accounts has control
issues and believes he must have a hand in every aspect of his wives life
because he feels she isn't to be trusted. Pure and simple.

Lots of reasons for different arrangements. SWMBO and I have had a
joint account since we married, and I've been the breadwinner for that
time (15 years plus).

She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.

djb

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Is it time to change my sig line yet?

"Dave Balderstone"
She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.

She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy "just
in case"

Now I'll bet you just look down right silly in that dress....

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
In rec.woodworking
Mapdude wrote:

exactly. I can't understand the logic of maintaining separate accounts
in a marriage.

Well, we had regular fights about money until we did that 15 years ago.
Now we never fight about money. If she wants a dress or some girly thing
and has the money, she buys it. I do the same. Everyone is happy. The
only thing we discuss is debt because that affects both. We have both
agreed to not take on any debt so if she buys something with a Visa, she
better pay it at the end of the month.

It works for us.

ROFL!

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Cheers
Nuno Souto
am
"Mark Hopkins" wrote in message
...
Now I'll bet you just look down right silly in that dress....

Try building a dog house. Make sure it's big enough so you can sleep in it
for a few weeks.



Then yesterday I got word that the dust collector has already shipped. To
top
things off, today I got word that the planer will ship within the next
week.
Needless to say, my wife is not happy with me. My jointer order is hanging
by a
thread now. One misstep and she's going to pull the cord, though I'm
assured by
the distributor that they don't expect any until late March. Anyone care
to
offer some marital advice on how to handle this delicate situation?

In article , Edwin
Pawlowski wrote:

She should also have a credit card in her own name also. Can be handy "just
in case"

She does, has had for the whole marriage and before.

djb

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In rec.woodworking
Dave Balderstone wrote:

She just got back into the workforce after raising two kids and set up
her own account for her payroll deposit. She wants to feel that she has
her own money after a decade and a half of not having much of it.

Which is the reason for doing it. When my W quit her job, I started paying
her a salary out of mine, direct deposited into her account. Believe me,
they like it better that way.

Then again, you always have to deal with the stupid woman's thinking that
what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine.

On Sat 21 Feb 2004 02:46:06p, "mel" wrote
in om:

you just had to go and say that didn't you? that was a fact I've been
trying to deny for some time now. I wanted tools so i started earning
money with them so i could buy more tools.....good news is I've
acquired quite a shop and my wife can't complain cause I've paid for
all the tools and then some. Bad news is it's become a second job and
now I've been forced to depreciate tools against earnings for the IRS
so i'm locked in to doing this for a minimum of 7 years.....


Hey, knock it off you two! I'm sitting here thinking I'm getting ready for
a nice little second income after I retire and you guys are letting all the
air out of my parade.

Dan

"Jon Endres, PE" t wrote in
message ...
"John Grossbohlin" wrote in message
...


If it is then so is this: My wife tells me to go buy tools even if I
haven't expressed a personal interest in buying them... She must have
mentioned that I need
a lathe about ten times in the past month and I only upgraded to the Jet
cabinet saw in early January!

Tell 'er you need the big Oneway. I can't believe how many guys in the
club
have one.

I think this latest push is because when I come home from the
woodworking
club meetings I tell her about the latest wonders that
guys in the club showed that night. To give you an idea of the caliber
of
the work one of the guys had a segmented turning in FWW last year and
will
be on HGTV this spring (I think it will be on Modern Masters???). Last
night
a guy in his late 80s gave a guest presentation of some of the most
amazing
work any of us had ever seen. He has won awards for his clocks, e.g.,
"most
complicated movement" and has some on display in museums. He also made
myriad other very complicated and extremely well executed items that
involved turnings.

Ain't it great? Our (collective) club has to be some of the most talented
woodworkers in the country. I can't wait 'til Showcase.

Jon E

I'm looking forward to Showcase also. I'm also hoping to finish a small
chest of drawers in time for Showcase... handcut dovetail case and drawer
construction and handcut daddos for the drawer frames. I'm running out of
time! My kids have been doing so much "work" in my shop that I'm way behind
on my own project plans. It's been a lot of fun teaching them how to make
things though so I don't really mind.

John

Fri, Feb 20, 2004, 11:25pm (EST+5) (jo4hn) says:
snip To Wife of NoName:
When you boot this bozo out of the house, drop me a line. I'll give you
a hundred bucks cash for his stuff and I'll even pay the shipping.

Somehow the other day I tuned in to the Riki Lake show. They were
featuring guys who collected things, and their families thought they
were nuts, so I watched. They had appraisors there too.

One poor SOB had been collecting sports cards since he was about 5
YO. His wife decided she wanted the space in the garage for her stuff.
So she sold his cards. Without asking him. Guy showed up the morning
after she put the ad in and took the lot - for $200. The first the
husband knew about it, he went to the garage, to do his montly value
check. He somehow salvaged 17. They were re-pops of 60s cards, not
originals. Even so, the expert said they were worth from $25-$50 each,
for a total value of $800. So, with 100,000 cards, that could figure
out to a potential $2.5 million, or even more. Even at one cent per
card, it still would have come to $1,000. Her only comment was she was
happy they were gone, and she was going to try and get rid of the
remaining 17 too. He said he loved her and would stay with her. He
never did say what he thought the value was. Hell, even women in the
audience were saying he should dump her. I figure, at the least, he
should have dumped her, and asked for spousal support, justified by the
fact that she's apparently doing so well, she can afford to get rid of a
potential fortune, for only $200, so she could surely afford spousal
support. I don't think I could stay with someone that stupid.


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