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Best Sawzall?
The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries
but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:01:08 -0700, Fred wrote:
The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. I don't use mine all the time, but my Milwaukee Super-sawzall has been in use for my entire home construction project, and other than the cord needing to be re-terminated twice, has been rock solid. The longer stroke can be hard on blades for the novice user, but sounds like you're past the "bend blades all the time" stage. If this one ever goes out, I'll probably replace it with the same thing, I'm quite happy with it. |
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Hi Fred,
I own a a heavy duty sawzall model 6507 that I got second hand. It's corded. It sure has come in handy. I usually buy 3rd party blades 'cause they're cheaper and I've only broken one so far. I use mine for pruning and hack sawing. I would buy another. You'll be happy too. Cheers. Joe_Stein Fred wrote: The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. |
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Dave:
Milwaukee just introduced a new, more powerful SawzAll, the 6523-21 Super SawzAll. It is now 12Amps instead of 7, has a 1-1/4" stroke, and orbital action at up to 3000 strokes per minute. If my old SawzAll wasn't doing as well as it is, I'd jump on this in a heartbeat! Jim Ray, President McFeely's Square Drive Screws www.mcfeelys.com (We do not carry Milwaukee tools, BTW. But if you are looking for Festool, come see us) "Dave Hinz" wrote in message ... On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:01:08 -0700, Fred wrote: The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. I don't use mine all the time, but my Milwaukee Super-sawzall has been in use for my entire home construction project, and other than the cord needing to be re-terminated twice, has been rock solid. The longer stroke can be hard on blades for the novice user, but sounds like you're past the "bend blades all the time" stage. If this one ever goes out, I'll probably replace it with the same thing, I'm quite happy with it. |
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If it can help you... I spoke with the Milwaukee representative in
Quebec and he told me there is no need at all to go for the orbital action or a more powerful model. Milwaukee do make more powerful models but it has a lot more to do with catching up with the competition on the specs side than genuine technical requirement. Just claiming that you've got the "most powerful" reciprocating saw on the market is usually enough to gain substancial market shares... so Milwaukee don't want to be left behind. I have the Super Sawzall 6537-22 and I've been very satisfied with it. I would buy the same model again tomorrow in a blink of an eye. Cyberben |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:59:54 -0400, jimbo wrote:
Dave: Milwaukee just introduced a new, more powerful SawzAll, the 6523-21 Super SawzAll. It is now 12Amps instead of 7, has a 1-1/4" stroke, and orbital action at up to 3000 strokes per minute. If my old SawzAll wasn't doing as well as it is, I'd jump on this in a heartbeat! If mine ever breaks, I'll consider upgrading, but in all reality I'll probably just replace-in-kind. More Power, usually equals "heavier and less manouverable". |
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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:01:08 -0700, "Fred" wrote:
The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. The brand you mention is called the best, and I know of no better. Even the Sazall has some vibration, and not as smooth of a cut as a jigsaw. I really like the way the blade is held in place with the Milwaulkee brands. My Sawzall has been used for 15 years and still going strong. |
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"Fred" wrote in message ... The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. I would go with the Milwaukee but the orbital action is only good for fast and "rough" cutting. If you want a smooth cut you want to defeat the orbital action. |
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There is a reason they are called sawzalls. My kid once went to an old
hardware store in Boston and asked if the Sawzall would cut cast iron pipe. The grizzled old yankee fart said; "Kid, it ain't a Sawzsomething. It ain't a Sawzmostthings. It's a SawzALL, now get to work." The kid was house manager at his frat and now owns his own. Wilson "Fred" wrote in message ... The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. |
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Fred wrote:
The Milwaukee Super Sawzall 6537-22 is what my local hardware store carries but is there a better one? Would orbital action be better? I'm looking at a 120V corded unit with smooth cuts, minimal vibration, good power and good reliability. I burn up about 2 reciprocating saws (not Milwaukees) about every 5 years so heavy duty and reliability is a must. The trick IMHO, is the blade, not the saw. Stick with bi-metal blades or carbide if you cut fiberglass like I do. Stick a good blade in almost any the the "SawZall" products out there and you will be happy. Lew |
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I've had the Milwaukee Super Sawzall for around 5 years and cut down
everything from walls to small trees. I used the regular Milwaukee sawzall in construction work years ago and we demolished anything with it and a sledgehammer. Top notch and will last forever. RonT |
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On one of my early assignements as a Westinghouse field maintenance
engineer, we discovered an electric utility generator that had been installed incorrectly. This was not your garden variety generator. It was 500 megawatt capacity and supplied the city of Corpus Christi, Texas. the fix was to cut three holes through 4" thick steel plate. We put a crew on it with a Milwaukee sawzall running round the clock for most of the weekend. In the end the generator was fixed and the sawzall was still running strong. The name has stuck with me ever since. Bob |
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I don't know authoritatively what businesses they are in and out of
today. They certainly still have a strong presence in nuclear power and large generators. |
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I don't know authoritatively what businesses they are in and out of today. They certainly still have a strong presence in nuclear power and large generators. But it isn't the same Circle-W--in mid-90s the Nuclear Division was sold to BNFL plc and although they use the Westinghouse name, what was Westinghouse has morphed into CBS...there's a timeline at http://www.westinghousenuclear.com/A1a.asp# which documents the demise. As I recall, somewhere in the early 90s was when all the other components not associated w/ the nuclear division were parceled off... While always a competitor, in a way sad to see the loss of a straight line from George's babies to the present... |
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Duane Bozarth wrote:
While always a competitor, in a way sad to see the loss of a straight line from George's babies to the present... There was no rhyme nor reason to their pricing strategy. If they needed to fill a factory, they would buy the job. If they didn't need to fill a factory, they either wouldn't bid or else bid very high. You could never predict which way, so you just ignored them. Lew |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
Duane Bozarth wrote: While always a competitor, in a way sad to see the loss of a straight line from George's babies to the present... There was no rhyme nor reason to their pricing strategy. If they needed to fill a factory, they would buy the job. If they didn't need to fill a factory, they either wouldn't bid or else bid very high. You could never predict which way, so you just ignored them. Well, there was a lot of that in the nuclear industry...we (one of the competitors) considered selling the reactor basically as Gillete thinks of razors--you could basically give the razor away in order to sell blades/shaving cream, etc., forever. Refueling and services was intended to be the long-term cash cow. The only requirement was to not lose too much money on the nuclear island. |
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Duane Bozarth wrote:
Well, there was a lot of that in the nuclear industry... Can't comment on anything having to do with the nuclear industry since my employer walked away early and left it to people like circle W. It looks like the electric utility industry is trying to get the public to pay for the clean up costs which were suppossed to have already been covered. Oh well, what else is new? Lew |
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Lew Hodgett wrote:
Duane Bozarth wrote: .... It looks like the electric utility industry is trying to get the public to pay for the clean up costs which were suppossed to have already been covered. ???? The present problem is one primarily not of the utilities' making...it was created by government action, Mr Carter having been the prime instiagator... |
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Duane Bozarth wrote: Lew Hodgett wrote: Duane Bozarth wrote: ... It looks like the electric utility industry is trying to get the public to pay for the clean up costs which were suppossed to have already been covered. There is no one other than the public to pay for it. We either pay for it now out of ratepayer funds, or pay for it later as a consequence of using capital that otherwise would be spent on expansion or improvement, including improvements that would LOWER future rates. ???? The present problem is one primarily not of the utilities' making...it was created by government action, Mr Carter having been the prime instiagator... I'm not clear on how government action, by Carter or any other adminstration created a problem the utilities need to clean up. Perhaps you could explain via email, or followup to an appriate newsgroup as that would no longer be a woodworking topic. -- FF |
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There is a convention against setting followups to a newsgroup
not in the newsgroups header so I've crossposted to alt.engineering.nuclear AND set follows there. Duane Bozarth wrote: wrote: ... I'm not clear on how government action, by Carter or any other adminstration created a problem the utilities need to clean up. Perhaps you could explain via email, or followup to an appriate newsgroup as that would no longer be a woodworking topic. Perhaps I could, but your address doesn't appear to be a valid one Then can you post the bounce message so I can investigate? I have my blacklists set to Tag not block and in any event they should not be bouncing anything back to you. so I'll just post as OT response...I guess if you want to followup you could go to alt.engineering.nuclear. Re the question, I wasn't totally clear what was meant either, hence the multiple question marks. I thought I'd take a chance however and was alluding to the cessation of consideration for review and ultimate approval/licensing by the NRC of reprocessing which was one of Mr Jimmy's edicts and which ultimately ended up in monitored retrieval and the snafu at spent fuel pools... Fuel reprocessing creates more readioactive waste, not less. The fission products and decay daughters, which are the hottest (highest specific activity) materials in the fuel rods are not reused and so must then be disposed of after separation from unspent fuel and U-238. And since they are no longer contained inside of sealed control rods the reprossing expands the volume of material contaminated with those decay daughters. On the plus side, those are shorter lived than the Uranium and Plutonium. As you may recall Jimmy Carter's stated reason for killing reprocessing was concern that creating a Plutonium-based nuclear power economy would necessitate much trasnportaion of Plutonium which has terrible potential for misuse if diverted to organizations like Al Queda, or rogue nations like North Korea or Iraq. Notably, those nations that have developed the bomb, aside from Israel, most likely have all done so without material diverted from US sources. I do not know what snafu you refer to, could you elaborate on that now? As for your apparent wish for an unspecified something else, You totally lost me here, I do not recall stating a wish for anything else specified or not. I'll simply note the investment in environmental cleanups for fossil isn't inconsequential, either, and aren't over. That ratepayers will pay for power costs is a given in a market economy. I'm not sure exactly what your contention is here in order to actually respond.... My point about ratepayers was in response to the comment "It looks like the electric utility industry is trying to get the public to pay for the clean up costs" My point is, "of course". No matter how the costs are paid for, the money will be coming from the public via one route or another. The public will pay for it through taxes, or rates, or if the utilities are forced to divert investment capital into clean-up activities THAT will reduce their investment money for other improvements that would have kept rates down so the public still pays. One of my biggest gripes with both utilites and the PUCs is their short-sightedness. Although utilities ARE very farsighted IRT reliability, they typically will not commit investor's money to improvements without an expected return on investment in nine months. This, for plants with a 40 year design lifetime. Meanwhile the PUCs typically will not allow ratepayer dollars to be used for capital improvements. One consequence of the synergy of these two idiocies is that there were still coal-fired power plants using volumetric feeders decades after it was clearly demonstrated that conversion to gravimetric feeders reduced fuole used by at least 20%. Fuel costs ARE passed straight through to the ratepayers, so a capital investment that reduces fuel costs, even if it reduces those costs to ZERO, has no directly return on investment at all, let alone one in nine months. Meanwhile, the PUCs would not allow the utilities to bill the ratepayers in the short term for improvements which would save them quite a bit in the future, plus provide all the environmental benefits associated with burning less coal. That is the way it was when I left that industry 20 years ago. For all I know now, there may STILL be power plants using volumetric feeders, or there may be better technology than gravimetric feeders that is not being implimented for the same reasons. -- FF |
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