Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have some
newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway, if you have
a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and I would
appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill thinks maybe
mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug. The problem
is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says it fits SS and it
is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it on though). I think that
mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I don't know for sure. Any help
from anyone will be most appreciated. Man I can't help it if someone got
into the non-filtered, left-handed cigarettes when they manufactured this
thing in 1949 (I checked the serial # for a fact). But by trying newer
arbors at least they are consistent. I am joking about the above comment on
the cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith
and that is a good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell

"Lyndell Thompson" wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft
diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have
some newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway,
if you have a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and
I would appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill
thinks maybe mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug.
The problem is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says
it fits SS and it is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it
on though). I think that mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I
don't know for sure. Any help from anyone will be most appreciated.
Man I can't help it if someone got into the non-filtered, left-handed
cigarettes when they manufactured this thing in 1949 (I checked the
serial # for a fact). But by trying newer arbors at least they are
consistent. I am joking about the above comment on the cigarettes. Not
joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith and that is a
good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell



Where are you measuring? Can't find my el cheapo, but everything says
5/8" and I have adaptors from other sources claiming 5/8" and they all
fit.

Hi Lyndell

SS shaft size is 5/8", however in 57 years of use I'm sure there is
some wear on your SS shaft, did you try to measure very close to the
housing, and/or do you have some way to check your caliper by measuring
a known size like some micrometers have often a piece to check the
micrometer, also you have to have some clearance, but 8 thou seams like
a lot.
My 2 cents

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Lyndell Thompson wrote:
Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have some
newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway, if you have
a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and I would
appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill thinks maybe
mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug. The problem
is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says it fits SS and it
is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it on though). I think that
mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I don't know for sure. Any help
from anyone will be most appreciated. Man I can't help it if someone got
into the non-filtered, left-handed cigarettes when they manufactured this
thing in 1949 (I checked the serial # for a fact). But by trying newer
arbors at least they are consistent. I am joking about the above comment on
the cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith
and that is a good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell


Been using a shopsmith for quite a while, 20 years. The shaft at the
time I bought it was (is) 5/5" dia.

Lyndell Thompson wrote:
Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have some
newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway, if you have
a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and I would
appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill thinks maybe
mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug. The problem
is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says it fits SS and it
is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it on though). I think that
mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I don't know for sure. Any help
from anyone will be most appreciated. Man I can't help it if someone got
into the non-filtered, left-handed cigarettes when they manufactured this
thing in 1949 (I checked the serial # for a fact). But by trying newer
arbors at least they are consistent. I am joking about the above comment on
the cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith
and that is a good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell


Been using a shopsmith for quite a while, 20 years. The shaft at the
time I bought it was (is) 5/8" dia.

Lyndell Thompson wrote:
Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have some
newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway, if you have
a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and I would
appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill thinks maybe
mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug. The problem
is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says it fits SS and it
is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it on though). I think that
mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I don't know for sure. Any help
from anyone will be most appreciated. Man I can't help it if someone got
into the non-filtered, left-handed cigarettes when they manufactured this
thing in 1949 (I checked the serial # for a fact). But by trying newer
arbors at least they are consistent. I am joking about the above comment on
the cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith
and that is a good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell


Been using a shopsmith for quite a while, 20 years. The shaft at the
time I bought it was (is) 5/8" dia.

Ralph wrote:

Lyndell Thompson wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft
diameter. My SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el
cheapo vernier caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors
and I have some newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark
V. Anyway, if you have a way of measuring your SS (if you still have
it) Bill and I would appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else
here. Bill thinks maybe mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good
and snug. The problem is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor
that says it fits SS and it is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS
to test it on though). I think that mfg. may have made it a little
sloppy but I don't know for sure. Any help from anyone will be most
appreciated. Man I can't help it if someone got into the non-filtered,
left-handed cigarettes when they manufactured this thing in 1949 (I
checked the serial # for a fact). But by trying newer arbors at least
they are consistent. I am joking about the above comment on the
cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I really like my
shopsmith and that is a good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell

Been using a shopsmith for quite a while, 20 years. The shaft at the
time I bought it was (is) 5/5" dia.
OOPs, Make that 5/8".

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 04:05:44 GMT, "Lyndell Thompson"
wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have some
newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway, if you have
a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and I would
appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill thinks maybe
mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug. The problem
is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says it fits SS and it
is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it on though). I think that
mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I don't know for sure. Any help
from anyone will be most appreciated. Man I can't help it if someone got
into the non-filtered, left-handed cigarettes when they manufactured this
thing in 1949 (I checked the serial # for a fact). But by trying newer
arbors at least they are consistent. I am joking about the above comment on
the cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith
and that is a good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell

Lyndell.. everything that I've bought for the shopsmith has been 5/8" and it's
all fit well, including the beall buffing system...

wow.. my machine must be almost new... I bought it in 81... *g*
Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

Ah ha! kind of as I suspected. something is fishy in Shopsmith land.
A 5/8 drill should drill about a thousandth oversize, so drilling a
5/8 hole should lead to a good fit on a 5/8 spindle - but in Lyndell's
case it didn't - so we are "two amigos" (apologies to Disney) in
search of the invisible messanger to deliver the answer as to why this
should be. Meanwhile, experiments continue........


On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:10:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

"Lyndell Thompson" wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft
diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have
some newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V.

snip-------


Where are you measuring? Can't find my el cheapo, but everything says
5/8" and I have adaptors from other sources claiming 5/8" and they all
fit.
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message,
instead correct this address and use it

will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com

"William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote:

Ah ha! kind of as I suspected. something is fishy in Shopsmith land.
A 5/8 drill should drill about a thousandth oversize, so drilling a
5/8 hole should lead to a good fit on a 5/8 spindle - but in Lyndell's
case it didn't - so we are "two amigos" (apologies to Disney) in
search of the invisible messanger to deliver the answer as to why this
should be. Meanwhile, experiments continue........



Still can't find my el cheapo caliper, but I did run across my Free Rockler
Nut and Bolt Gauge (hey, it least it wasn't my Free Black Handyman Club of
America Drill Gauge). The Rockler 5/8" slid right on the SS shaft - this
after I had to search for my Harbor Freight Hex Wrenches to remove the
current occupant. There is some slop, but it doesn't look to be more than a
couple thou. Slides clean to the base of the shaft. My SS is a 1956.

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:03:47 -0800, "William B Noble (don't reply to this
address)" wrote:

Ah ha! kind of as I suspected. something is fishy in Shopsmith land.
A 5/8 drill should drill about a thousandth oversize, so drilling a
5/8 hole should lead to a good fit on a 5/8 spindle - but in Lyndell's
case it didn't - so we are "two amigos" (apologies to Disney) in
search of the invisible messanger to deliver the answer as to why this
should be. Meanwhile, experiments continue........

aha... now you've changed the question, Bill...
He asked what size the shaft was, not what size hole to drill in something to
fit the shaft...

I can give expert testimony that 5/8" accessories fit the shopsmith... you need
an engineer to tell you WHY it fits.. *lol*



Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

It's 5/8, unless it's been seriously abused.

I have one of pretty much the same vintage (within the first year of
Mark V construction - no access hole on the backside of the headstock,
green paint, Magna Engineering). I recently upgraded the quill/drive
system to the "newer" style, which was a few hundred $, but it got me
the new two bearing quill, as my old quill was sloppy after 50 years of
use, and I had never gotten around to doing the DIY two bearing upgrade
on it; AND it meant no more bleeping Gilmer belt (swapped the drive
parts to go to the Poly-V belt while I was at it). Them fancy new parts
swapped into the Olde Machine just fine. So there is hope if your quill
has, in fact, been abused.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Hi Bill

Not to blame you or in any way saying what the cause is , but I would
never trust a drill bit to make a good fitting hole, throughout the
years I have seen to many sloppy holes caused by drills that go
oversize,off kilter etc., for different reasons, mostly for taking
large cut increases with bids that have one cutting edge longer than
the other, if possible holes should be bored on a lathe or drilled
undersize and reamed out to size, just my opinion.
A fairly good way to second guess some standard sizes is to use a open
end wrench on a shaft, should give a reasonable close idea of the size
in question.

http://homepage.mac.com/l.vanderloo/PhotoAlbum25.html

Have fun and take care
Leo Van Der Loo

Ecnerwal wrote:


It's 5/8, unless it's been seriously abused.

I have one of pretty much the same vintage (within the first year of
Mark V construction - no access hole on the backside of the headstock,
green paint, Magna Engineering). I recently upgraded the quill/drive
system to the "newer" style, which was a few hundred $, but it got me
the new two bearing quill, as my old quill was sloppy after 50 years
of use, and I had never gotten around to doing the DIY two bearing
upgrade on it; AND it meant no more bleeping Gilmer belt (swapped the
drive parts to go to the Poly-V belt while I was at it). Them fancy
new parts swapped into the Olde Machine just fine. So there is hope if
your quill has, in fact, been abused.


How much effort is required to make the changes? Do you need more than
one pair of hands?

Thanks,
LD

In article JawEf.30312$5G.19401@trnddc08,
Lobby Dosser wrote:

How much effort is required to make the changes? Do you need more than
one pair of hands?

Not much effort. I did it myself, working alone. If you actually open it
up regularly to oil the parts inside that you're supposed to oil & clean
every 10 running hours, it won't be difficult at all. If you never do
that, there's another couple of parts you might end up needing sometime
;-). Then again, with a '56 you have the access hole for easier oiling
without tearing as much down. I believe that the instructions which came
with the parts were adequate (though badly photocopied), but I also had
been in most of the same places to replace the Gilmer belt back in the
1980's, so I had some memory of it.

If you have a manual, consult the section on tensioning the Gilmer belt.
You need to understand how the eccentric mount works so that you can
slack it off and tighten it up.

The website sections on oiling and cleaning might be of some help.

Some of the old instructions mention a usful method for dropping the
motor which I don't know if the new ones do - lock the machine near the
right end, raise it to drill-press position, install the table from the
wrong side and use that to support the motor (which will rotate down 90
degrees once the drive belt is off, leaving you a lot more working room
in the headstock than when it's flat).

You may need to pick some crud out of the keeper screw for the quill - I
think it was filled with something to keep the owner from accidently
fiddling with it at the factory. Right on top of the machine, fits in a
groove on top of the quill.

As I recall, the new and old quills are splined differently, which was
part of the reason I went ahead and swapped the Gilmer out - there was a
replacement for the old quill, but it was not two bearing - going to the
poly-V instead of the Gilmer meant I could get the two bearing quill,
and the new-type belt should hold up better/run quieter as well.

Here are all the parts to do the job (if my records are correct)
:
555088 Quill Retro-Kit 1 66.00
518145 Drive Sleeve Assembly 1 63.99
521681 Poly V-Belt 1 13.99
5041809 Idler Sheave 1 21.99

Prices are 2002 and reflect a sale on the quill upgrade at the time.

Don't rush, it should be a one day job. Could be only a couple hours,
but that's only if you've been so far into the headstock assessing
problems before you get the new parts that you've refreshed your memory
on how all the weird bits work, and what goes where, and that sort of
thing.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Ecnerwal wrote:

In article JawEf.30312$5G.19401@trnddc08,
Lobby Dosser wrote:

How much effort is required to make the changes? Do you need more than
one pair of hands?

Not much effort. I did it myself, working alone.

Thanks for the reply. I saved your post for future reference. I thought I
recalled that the two bearing quill would not fit models earlier than
1980(?). Good to know that there is an alternative.

LD

Leo, Bill drilled an adaptor to 5/8" and it needed a beer can thick shim to
fit proper. It is true as can be with the shim. I have many other SS arbors
and all fit snug so there is nothing wrong that I can see with the shaft It
measure the same front to back. I was able to take the shim and get it
checked with micrometer and it was .004" which explains why it works with
about .008" play. My SS is a 1949 m/n10ER , which means experimental
revised and was marketed exclusively thru Montgomery Ward co. I believe if
we all got a good micrometer I think we will find my mesurement is close.
What is not easy to figure is why they would go to that much trouble to make
an odd size. Next question is why do some people have trouble with runout
or wobble in my case and other mount it and it works fine. The quest for
truth continues. Thanks! All info helps.
Lyndell

I was measuring across the diameter of the shaft, not the reverse taper
part where the setscrew sets. It is hard to tell .008 without some good
stuff. I will try to get someone with a good mic to check it for me. I can
tell you all this, when I fit any true SS arbor to it, there is 0 slop. You
can wiggle it up or down at all even with the setscrew loose. It slides on
easily but is a snug fit. It could be that it is difficult to machine on
purpose. That way they sell a lot of arborsG
Thanks Lyndell

"Lobby Dosser" wrote in message
news:VugEf.29357$5G.29336@trnddc08...
"Lyndell Thompson" wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft
diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have
some newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway,
if you have a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and
I would appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill
thinks maybe mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug.
The problem is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says
it fits SS and it is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it
on though). I think that mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I
don't know for sure. Any help from anyone will be most appreciated.
Man I can't help it if someone got into the non-filtered, left-handed
cigarettes when they manufactured this thing in 1949 (I checked the
serial # for a fact). But by trying newer arbors at least they are
consistent. I am joking about the above comment on the cigarettes. Not
joking about the year of mfg. I really like my shopsmith and that is a
good thing. It is all I have to work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell



Where are you measuring? Can't find my el cheapo, but everything says
5/8" and I have adaptors from other sources claiming 5/8" and they all
fit.

Bill, maybe next time I get a vacation I will load it up and bring it to
you. It's only a couple of thousand miles. G
Lyndell

"William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote
in message ...
Ah ha! kind of as I suspected. something is fishy in Shopsmith land.
A 5/8 drill should drill about a thousandth oversize, so drilling a
5/8 hole should lead to a good fit on a 5/8 spindle - but in Lyndell's
case it didn't - so we are "two amigos" (apologies to Disney) in
search of the invisible messanger to deliver the answer as to why this
should be. Meanwhile, experiments continue........


On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:10:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

"Lyndell Thompson" wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft
diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have
some newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V.

snip-------


Where are you measuring? Can't find my el cheapo, but everything says
5/8" and I have adaptors from other sources claiming 5/8" and they all
fit.
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message,
instead correct this address and use it

will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com

No quill update available for mine. I also subscribe to the 10ER users
group on yahoo but havn't checked in for a while. I may try to do that soon
and see what they say.
Thanks Lyndell


"Ecnerwal" wrote in message
...

It's 5/8, unless it's been seriously abused.

I have one of pretty much the same vintage (within the first year of
Mark V construction - no access hole on the backside of the headstock,
green paint, Magna Engineering). I recently upgraded the quill/drive
system to the "newer" style, which was a few hundred $, but it got me
the new two bearing quill, as my old quill was sloppy after 50 years of
use, and I had never gotten around to doing the DIY two bearing upgrade
on it; AND it meant no more bleeping Gilmer belt (swapped the drive
parts to go to the Poly-V belt while I was at it). Them fancy new parts
swapped into the Olde Machine just fine. So there is hope if your quill
has, in fact, been abused.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Mac , I hate to be the one to do it. Guess I could put on my engineers
hat, go to harbor freight get an even cheaper micrometer and really stir up
things. My gut feeling tells me to get a known working micrometer and go
from there.G
Lyndell
"mac davis" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 23:03:47 -0800, "William B Noble (don't reply to this
address)" wrote:

Ah ha! kind of as I suspected. something is fishy in Shopsmith land.
A 5/8 drill should drill about a thousandth oversize, so drilling a
5/8 hole should lead to a good fit on a 5/8 spindle - but in Lyndell's
case it didn't - so we are "two amigos" (apologies to Disney) in
search of the invisible messanger to deliver the answer as to why this
should be. Meanwhile, experiments continue........

aha... now you've changed the question, Bill...
He asked what size the shaft was, not what size hole to drill in something
to
fit the shaft...

I can give expert testimony that 5/8" accessories fit the shopsmith... you
need
an engineer to tell you WHY it fits.. *lol*



Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

Thanks Ralph, well like Bill Noble says back to the drawing board.
Thanks Lyndell

"Ralph" wrote in message
news:30hEf.415032$2k.11423@pd7tw1no...
Lyndell Thompson wrote:
Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft diameter.
My SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have some
newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V. Anyway, if you
have a way of measuring your SS (if you still have it) Bill and I would
appreciate the info. Same applies for anyone else here. Bill thinks maybe
mine is smaller, but all the arbors fit good and snug. The problem
is.......he has access to a manufactured adaptor that says it fits SS and
it is 5/8" true bored (he dosen't have a SS to test it on though). I
think that mfg. may have made it a little sloppy but I don't know for
sure. Any help from anyone will be most appreciated. Man I can't help it
if someone got into the non-filtered, left-handed cigarettes when they
manufactured this thing in 1949 (I checked the serial # for a fact). But
by trying newer arbors at least they are consistent. I am joking about
the above comment on the cigarettes. Not joking about the year of mfg. I
really like my shopsmith and that is a good thing. It is all I have to
work with.:-)
TIA Lyndell
Been using a shopsmith for quite a while, 20 years. The shaft at the
time I bought it was (is) 5/8" dia.

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:43:12 GMT, "Lyndell Thompson"
wrote:

Bill, maybe next time I get a vacation I will load it up and bring it to
you. It's only a couple of thousand miles. G
Lyndell

I was thinking about that today... lol
I happened across the shopsmith adapter for the Talon chuck.. thought that if
Bill had any plans for heading north a bit I might meet him half way.. I think
we're within a few hundred miles..

"William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote
in message ...
Ah ha! kind of as I suspected. something is fishy in Shopsmith land.
A 5/8 drill should drill about a thousandth oversize, so drilling a
5/8 hole should lead to a good fit on a 5/8 spindle - but in Lyndell's
case it didn't - so we are "two amigos" (apologies to Disney) in
search of the invisible messanger to deliver the answer as to why this
should be. Meanwhile, experiments continue........


On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 05:10:13 GMT, Lobby Dosser
wrote:

"Lyndell Thompson" wrote:

Mac, Bill noble needs a second opinion on the shopsmith shaft
diameter. My
SS reads .6171" (about 1/128" shy of 5/8") with my el cheapo vernier
caliper. Ditto for the inside diameter of all my arbors and I have
some newer ones like a 1-1/4" sawblade adator from a mark V.

snip-------


Where are you measuring? Can't find my el cheapo, but everything says
5/8" and I have adaptors from other sources claiming 5/8" and they all
fit.
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message,
instead correct this address and use it

will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com


Mac
https://home.comcast.net/~mac.davis/wood_stuff.htm

mac davis wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:43:12 GMT, "Lyndell Thompson"
wrote:

Bill, maybe next time I get a vacation I will load it up and bring it
to
you. It's only a couple of thousand miles. G
Lyndell

I was thinking about that today... lol
I happened across the shopsmith adapter for the Talon chuck.. thought
that if Bill had any plans for heading north a bit I might meet him
half way.. I think we're within a few hundred miles..

I may have pointed this out before, but Wooden Post has an adaptor for the
Shopsmith. 5/8" to 1" X 8. Made in China (sigh). I have one and it is a
good fit.

http://www.woodenpost.com/products/lathe_accessories.htm

this is all pretty interesting - What I'm trying to figure out is
whether there is a a variation in size of the spindles - I can
certainly adopt a more precise way of drilling - I've got a 39/64
drill ready to go this weekend, but if there is variation in the
spindle size, then what is really needed is something that can
compress against the 5/8 shaft - maybe something undersized but split.
If all the shafts are pretty close to the same, then it's a simple
machining problem.

The use of beer can shims does have one significant advantage, I
should point out - it provides positive justificaiton for the need for
more beer.

bill n




Lyndell.. everything that I've bought for the shopsmith has been 5/8" and it's
all fit well, including the beall buffing system...

wow.. my machine must be almost new... I bought it in 81... *g*
Mac
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On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:29:05 -0800, "William B Noble (don't reply to this
address)" wrote:

this is all pretty interesting - What I'm trying to figure out is
whether there is a a variation in size of the spindles - I can
certainly adopt a more precise way of drilling - I've got a 39/64
drill ready to go this weekend, but if there is variation in the
spindle size, then what is really needed is something that can
compress against the 5/8 shaft - maybe something undersized but split.
If all the shafts are pretty close to the same, then it's a simple
machining problem.

The use of beer can shims does have one significant advantage, I
should point out - it provides positive justificaiton for the need for
more beer.

bill n

Bill.. I did some reading on the shopsmith users group last night.. AFAICT,
they've always had a 5/8" shaft...

hmm... maybe, for the sake of this discussion, I should amend that to: they've
always used 5/8" accessories on the shaft...


mac

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mac davis wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2006 22:29:05 -0800, "William B Noble (don't reply to
this address)" wrote:

this is all pretty interesting - What I'm trying to figure out is
whether there is a a variation in size of the spindles - I can
certainly adopt a more precise way of drilling - I've got a 39/64
drill ready to go this weekend, but if there is variation in the
spindle size, then what is really needed is something that can
compress against the 5/8 shaft - maybe something undersized but split.
If all the shafts are pretty close to the same, then it's a simple
machining problem.

The use of beer can shims does have one significant advantage, I
should point out - it provides positive justificaiton for the need for
more beer.

bill n

Bill.. I did some reading on the shopsmith users group last night..
AFAICT, they've always had a 5/8" shaft...

hmm... maybe, for the sake of this discussion, I should amend that to:
they've always used 5/8" accessories on the shaft...

Found my el cheapo caliper. The 5/8" to 1" x 8 adaptor from Wooden Post
is a rock solid 0.625. Measuring the shaft is a bit more difficult - I'd
probably need to do a bunch of averaging - but it is obviously slightly
Less than 0.625, as the adaptor is a snug - but not press - fit.

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mac davis wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 03:43:12 GMT, "Lyndell Thompson"
wrote:

Bill, maybe next time I get a vacation I will load it up and bring it
to
you. It's only a couple of thousand miles. G
Lyndell

I was thinking about that today... lol
I happened across the shopsmith adapter for the Talon chuck.. thought
that if Bill had any plans for heading north a bit I might meet him
half way.. I think we're within a few hundred miles..

I may have pointed this out before, but Wooden Post has an adaptor for the
Shopsmith. 5/8" to 1" X 8. Made in China (sigh). I have one and it is a
good fit.

http://www.woodenpost.com/products/lathe_accessories.htm

Hello,

I started to go this route and thought well I could save shipping and get it
all at one place. I had no idea the can of worms we opened up by trying to
save a few dollars shippingG. I want you to know that your comments are
very appreciatied. I guess Bill and I want to do things the most complex way
possible. I think Bill would eventually like to sell a few of these. We have
it working but are trying to perfect this thing. I bookmarked the website
for future reference.
Thanks again Lyndell

"Lyndell Thompson" wrote:

Hello,

I started to go this route and thought well I could save shipping and
get it all at one place. I had no idea the can of worms we opened up
by trying to save a few dollars shippingG. I want you to know that
your comments are very appreciatied. I guess Bill and I want to do
things the most complex way possible. I think Bill would eventually
like to sell a few of these. We have it working but are trying to
perfect this thing. I bookmarked the website for future reference.
Thanks again Lyndell




And I'd rather be buying from bill than China!