I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a mouse.

--
James Harris

On 19/11/2016 17:50, James Harris wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

As for why I only suspect there is a problem, and am not certain, is
that (1) I have seen what appeared to be droppings (matched against
pictures on the internet), (2) I've twice caught a fleeting glimpse in
the half-light of something which could have been a mouse - a fast
mouse!, and (3) I occasionally hear suspect noises. It makes me itch
just to think about it. :-(

--
James Harris

On 19/11/2016 17:50, James Harris wrote:

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a mouse.

I meant to add that the traps were quite small. I baited them with
peanut butter, peanuts, chocolate, cheese etc - but with no success. I
suspect the mice weren't prepared to squeeze themselves into the small
space that the shop-bought traps provided.

A better option may be a home-made trap.

--
James Harris

On 19/11/2016 17:55, James Harris wrote:
On 19/11/2016 17:50, James Harris wrote:

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a mouse.

I meant to add that the traps were quite small. I baited them with
peanut butter, peanuts, chocolate, cheese etc - but with no success. I
suspect the mice weren't prepared to squeeze themselves into the small
space that the shop-bought traps provided.

A better option may be a home-made trap.


It's a mouse and it's a pest. Just kill it.

--
Adam

On Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:50:46 UTC, James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Owain

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr

They also do a very effective humane trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj
http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll down to Live Capture Mouse Trap.
But some words of advice: while they do work, and well, you must check
them at least once a day, preferably twice. I had one set up in an
empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and on one occasion
for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the trap for several days.
The poor little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never used that
trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded instant skull
crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a snapper thing
down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I suspect.
I did not feel too very proud of myself.

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr

They also do a very effective humane trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj
http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll down to Live Capture Mouse Trap.
But some words of advice: while they do work, and well, you must check
them at least once a day, preferably twice. I had one set up in an
empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and on one occasion
for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the trap for several days.
The poor little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never used that
trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded instant skull
crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a snapper thing
down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I suspect.
I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly what LEGAL rat poison does.

--
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A woman must not undress in front of a man's portrait.
You mustn't drink wine from a teacup.
It's illegal to sell a pickle that doesn't bounce.
It's illegal to tickle a womans chin with a feather duster.
It's illegal to have an ice cream cone in your pocket.
In Hawaii, it's illegal to have a coin in your ear.
In Nevada, it's illegal for a man with a moustache to kiss a woman.

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.
Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr

They also do a very effective humane trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj
http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll down to Live Capture Mouse
Trap. But some words of advice: while they do work, and well, you
must check them at least once a day, preferably twice. I had one
set up in an empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and
on one occasion for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the
trap for several days. The poor little chap had died in the trap,
soaked in his own urine. A nasty death that I would have preferred
to avoid. I've never used that trap since, preferring the
traditional spring-loaded instant skull crusher / spine snapper. At
least the mice don't suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I suspect.
I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly what
LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:41:50 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.
Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr

They also do a very effective humane trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj
http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll down to Live Capture Mouse
Trap. But some words of advice: while they do work, and well, you
must check them at least once a day, preferably twice. I had one
set up in an empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and
on one occasion for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the
trap for several days. The poor little chap had died in the trap,
soaked in his own urine. A nasty death that I would have preferred
to avoid. I've never used that trap since, preferring the
traditional spring-loaded instant skull crusher / spine snapper. At
least the mice don't suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I suspect.
I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly what
LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

Yes you do.

--
Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he will eat for a lifetime; give a man religion and he will die praying for a fish

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:41:50 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.
Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught
a mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice
http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr They also do a very effective humane trap
http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll
down to Live Capture Mouse Trap. But some words of advice: while
they do work, and well, you must check them at least once a day,
preferably twice. I had one set up in an empty property that was
showing evidence of mice, and on one occasion for various reasons
I wasn't able to get to the trap for several days. The poor
little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never used
that trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded instant
skull crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I
suspect. I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly what
LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

Yes you do.

Nope.
This is interesting Mr Hucker.
Please tell me more of your delusions. Or give me a clue.

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:55:24 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:41:50 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.
Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught
a mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice
http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr They also do a very effective humane trap
http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll
down to Live Capture Mouse Trap. But some words of advice: while
they do work, and well, you must check them at least once a day,
preferably twice. I had one set up in an empty property that was
showing evidence of mice, and on one occasion for various reasons
I wasn't able to get to the trap for several days. The poor
little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never used
that trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded instant
skull crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I
suspect. I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly what
LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

Yes you do.

Nope.
This is interesting Mr Hucker.
Please tell me more of your delusions. Or give me a clue.

You can't be that dim.

--
Aisle oven ice bitters are chasm!

On 19/11/16 17:50, James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a mouse.

Humane traps only work on Humans.

For mice,use a standard neck snapper. They are gone in an instant.



--
If I had all the money I've spent on drink...
...I'd spend it on drink.

Sir Henry (at Rawlinson's End)

James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

I've tried to explain how to build one on newsgroups but never managed to
get anyone to comprehend.

here goes...


you need two plastic buckets, one must fit inside the other upside down,
that is, open end to open end, so that when one bucket is inside the other,
you have a sealed unit...the upper buckets bottom will be facing upwards
inside the lower bucket - this is the trap.
To get the mouse inside these two, you need to cut a mouse sized hole about
an inch up from the floor of the bottom bucket, then make a trigger. This is
a piece of 'V' shaped card, like a christmas card etc about 75mm square.
Inside the 'V' hinge, you apply your bait, - bacon rind works well - and you
place the trigger inside the bottom bucket farthest away from the entrance
hole. Put the two open ends of card against the wall and then place the
upper bucket resting on these two 'arms'. Mr mouse goes in through his
entrance hole, across to the card containing his lunch, he moves the card to
get his bacon butty and the upper bucket slides down trapping him inside.

You can easily tell when there's a mouse inside as the upper bucket has
dropped

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10qx...9#.WDC1ASlFm6Q

Phil L wrote:
James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

I've tried to explain how to build one on newsgroups but never
managed to get anyone to comprehend.

here goes...


you need two plastic buckets, one must fit inside the other upside
down, that is, open end to open end, so that when one bucket is
inside the other, you have a sealed unit...the upper buckets bottom
will be facing upwards inside the lower bucket - this is the trap.
To get the mouse inside these two, you need to cut a mouse sized hole
about an inch up from the floor of the bottom bucket, then make a
trigger. This is a piece of 'V' shaped card, like a christmas card
etc about 75mm square. Inside the 'V' hinge, you apply your bait, -
bacon rind works well - and you place the trigger inside the bottom
bucket farthest away from the entrance hole. Put the two open ends
of card against the wall and then place the upper bucket resting on
these two 'arms'. Mr mouse goes in through his entrance hole, across
to the card containing his lunch, he moves the card to get his bacon
butty and the upper bucket slides down trapping him inside.
You can easily tell when there's a mouse inside as the upper bucket
has dropped

James Harris wrote

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want
to kill them. Any suggestions on how to repel them?

There is no way to repel them effectively and
if there was, that would be inhumane anyway.

I've tried two different types of humane
trap but neither caught a mouse.

Just as true of the beastly ones that try to kill them.

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:55:24 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:41:50 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill
them. Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither
caught a mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice
http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr They also do a very effective humane
trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and
scroll down to Live Capture Mouse Trap. But some words of
advice: while they do work, and well, you must check them at
least once a day, preferably twice. I had one set up in an
empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and on one
occasion for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the trap for
several days. The poor
little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never
used that trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded
instant skull crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't
suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I
suspect. I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly
what LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

Yes you do.

Nope.
This is interesting Mr Hucker.
Please tell me more of your delusions. Or give me a clue.

You can't be that dim.

I know nothing about your mouse traps.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Would you like to tell me who this person "I seem to like taking info from"
is?
If you wish you may email me. I'm really curious.

"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr

They also do a very effective humane trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj
http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and scroll down to Live Capture Mouse Trap.
But some words of advice: while they do work, and well, you must check
them at least once a day, preferably twice. I had one set up in an
empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and on one occasion
for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the trap for several days.
The poor little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never used that
trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded instant skull
crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't suffer.

Suffer for a much shorter time, anyway.

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 20:48:57 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:55:24 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:41:50 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill
them. Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither
caught a mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice
http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr They also do a very effective humane
trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and
scroll down to Live Capture Mouse Trap. But some words of
advice: while they do work, and well, you must check them at
least once a day, preferably twice. I had one set up in an
empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and on one
occasion for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the trap for
several days. The poor
little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never
used that trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded
instant skull crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't
suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I
suspect. I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly
what LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

Yes you do.

Nope.
This is interesting Mr Hucker.
Please tell me more of your delusions. Or give me a clue.

You can't be that dim.

I know nothing about your mouse traps.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Would you like to tell me who this person "I seem to like taking info from"
is?
If you wish you may email me. I'm really curious.

[over there]

--
Hello, you have reached technical support.
Please dial 1 to report an issue, 2 to report a challenge, 3 to report a problem, or 4 to report a cockup.

wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:50:46 UTC, James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats dont kill them quickly even when hungry.

"Phil L" wrote in message
...
James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

I've tried to explain how to build one on newsgroups but never managed to
get anyone to comprehend.

here goes...


you need two plastic buckets, one must fit inside the other upside down,
that is, open end to open end, so that when one bucket is inside the
other, you have a sealed unit...the upper buckets bottom will be facing
upwards inside the lower bucket - this is the trap.
To get the mouse inside these two, you need to cut a mouse sized hole
about an inch up from the floor of the bottom bucket, then make a trigger.
This is a piece of 'V' shaped card, like a christmas card etc about 75mm
square. Inside the 'V' hinge, you apply your bait, - bacon rind works
well - and you place the trigger inside the bottom bucket farthest away
from the entrance hole. Put the two open ends of card against the wall and
then place the upper bucket resting on these two 'arms'. Mr mouse goes in
through his entrance hole, across to the card containing his lunch, he
moves the card to get his bacon butty and the upper bucket slides down
trapping him inside.

You can easily tell when there's a mouse inside as the upper bucket has
dropped

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10qx...9#.WDC1ASlFm6Q

Wot if the mouse is a claustrophobe ? Hardly humane in that case.

"Mr Pounder Esquire" wrote in message
news
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:55:24 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:41:50 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 18:54:00 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire
wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 17:50:43 +0000, James Harris
wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill
them. Any suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither
caught a mouse.

Rentokil have some tips on deterring mice
http://tinyurl.com/j9hu2jr They also do a very effective humane
trap http://tinyurl.com/jrlcafj http://tinyurl.com/gtksngn and
scroll down to Live Capture Mouse Trap. But some words of
advice: while they do work, and well, you must check them at
least once a day, preferably twice. I had one set up in an
empty property that was showing evidence of mice, and on one
occasion for various reasons I wasn't able to get to the trap for
several days. The poor
little chap had died in the trap, soaked in his own urine. A
nasty death that I would have preferred to avoid. I've never
used that trap since, preferring the traditional spring-loaded
instant skull crusher / spine snapper. At least the mice don't
suffer.

Had one sneaking about in the kitchen many years ago and put a
snapper thing down.
Found it dead with it's hand/paw in the trap. Heart attack I
suspect. I did not feel too very proud of myself.

Someone you seem to like taking info from reported me to the RSPCA
for using humane traps and not emptying them fast enough, so the
little ****s died of starvation/dehydration. Which is exactly
what LEGAL rat poison does.

"Someone you seem to like taking info from"

What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea.

Yes you do.

Nope.
This is interesting Mr Hucker.
Please tell me more of your delusions. Or give me a clue.

You can't be that dim.

I know nothing about your mouse traps.
I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Would you like to tell me who this person "I seem to like taking info
from" is?
If you wish you may email me.

I'm really curious.

Hopefully the same thing will happen to you as happened to the cat.

Rod Speed wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:50:46 UTC, James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.
Any suggestions on how to repel them?

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.
I hate cats.

"Chris Hogg" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 20:24:59 -0000, "Phil L"
wrote:

James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a
mouse.

I've tried to explain how to build one on newsgroups but never managed to
get anyone to comprehend.

here goes...


you need two plastic buckets, one must fit inside the other upside down,
that is, open end to open end, so that when one bucket is inside the
other,
you have a sealed unit...the upper buckets bottom will be facing upwards
inside the lower bucket - this is the trap.
To get the mouse inside these two, you need to cut a mouse sized hole
about
an inch up from the floor of the bottom bucket, then make a trigger. This
is
a piece of 'V' shaped card, like a christmas card etc about 75mm square.
Inside the 'V' hinge, you apply your bait, - bacon rind works well - and
you
place the trigger inside the bottom bucket farthest away from the
entrance
hole. Put the two open ends of card against the wall and then place the
upper bucket resting on these two 'arms'. Mr mouse goes in through his
entrance hole, across to the card containing his lunch, he moves the card
to
get his bacon butty and the upper bucket slides down trapping him inside.

You can easily tell when there's a mouse inside as the upper bucket has
dropped

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=10qx...9#.WDC1ASlFm6Q



This seems even simpler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABffYDM9EwU

Still not humane if the mouse is a claustrophobe.

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:38:04 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Rod Speed wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Saturday, 19 November 2016 17:50:46 UTC, James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.
Any suggestions on how to repel them?

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.
I hate cats.

A cat torturing a mouse is a wonderful thing to watch.

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:38:04 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill
them.

The Rentokill tippy square tube live capture trap works but the
little buggers can get out and note about checking frequently. But
what do you do with live mouse in trap? Do you have a mouse cage to
put it and any others you catch? You *never* have A mouse. Then what
do you do with it? Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not
well defined. If you just take it out into your garden it'll probably
be back inside before you are. We live capture and used to release
100 m away down the in-bye, then we caught a mouse with a nick in one
of it's ears, we caught it again the next night and the next. After
that we took to deporting them up onto the fell a good few miles from
any habitation, they don't come back from there. I doubt many people
have a spot that is three miles from *any* habitation less than 5
miles away. B-)

Any suggestions on how to repel them?

Cat, for the last 7 years or so we had a cat and no mice (apart from
the ones she brought in and ate). A few months ago she lost an
argument with a car and now the weather has got colder the mice have
returned...

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

This is the best option for most people. Mice are destructive little
buggers that leak **** all the time. They leak **** to leave a sent
trail for other mice, or themselves, to follow.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.

An over fed town cat might, our cat was a feral born farm cat who
adopted us. About 80% of anything she brought in was dead, 19%, so
badly hurt it could run and was was very soon dead. 1% alive enough
to run but cat was very patient and would catch and dispatch the
moment it re-showed itself. She might bat the corpse about a few
times but was far more interested in a snack.

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Dave.

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:43:52 -0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:38:04 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill
them.

The Rentokill tippy square tube live capture trap works but the
little buggers can get out and note about checking frequently. But
what do you do with live mouse in trap? Do you have a mouse cage to
put it and any others you catch? You *never* have A mouse. Then what
do you do with it? Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not
well defined.

Never heard of that before. You're supposed to take them to the nearest woods. Although letting them slowly die in the trap is more satisfying.

If you just take it out into your garden it'll probably
be back inside before you are. We live capture and used to release
100 m away down the in-bye, then we caught a mouse with a nick in one
of it's ears, we caught it again the next night and the next. After
that we took to deporting them up onto the fell a good few miles from
any habitation, they don't come back from there. I doubt many people
have a spot that is three miles from *any* habitation less than 5
miles away. B-)

Machete.

Any suggestions on how to repel them?

Cat, for the last 7 years or so we had a cat and no mice (apart from
the ones she brought in and ate). A few months ago she lost an
argument with a car and now the weather has got colder the mice have
returned...

I have a video of one of mine juggling with a mouse. Quite amusing.

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

This is the best option for most people. Mice are destructive little
buggers that leak **** all the time. They leak **** to leave a sent
trail for other mice, or themselves, to follow.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.

An over fed town cat might, our cat was a feral born farm cat who
adopted us. About 80% of anything she brought in was dead, 19%, so
badly hurt it could run and was was very soon dead. 1% alive enough
to run but cat was very patient and would catch and dispatch the
moment it re-showed itself. She might bat the corpse about a few
times but was far more interested in a snack.

Mine don't want to eat the mice. They give them to me as presents and probably think I convert them into cat food. Why would they want to have to remove the fur?

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Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:38:04 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.

The Rentokill tippy square tube live capture trap works but the
little buggers can get out and note about checking frequently. But
what do you do with live mouse in trap? Do you have a mouse cage to
put it and any others you catch? You *never* have A mouse. Then what
do you do with it? Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not
well defined. If you just take it out into your garden it'll probably
be back inside before you are. We live capture and used to release
100 m away down the in-bye, then we caught a mouse with a nick in one
of it's ears, we caught it again the next night and the next. After
that we took to deporting them up onto the fell a good few miles from
any habitation, they don't come back from there. I doubt many people
have a spot that is three miles from *any* habitation less than 5
miles away. B-)

Any suggestions on how to repel them?

Cat, for the last 7 years or so we had a cat and no mice (apart from
the ones she brought in and ate). A few months ago she lost an
argument with a car and now the weather has got colder the mice have
returned...

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

This is the best option for most people. Mice are destructive little
buggers that leak **** all the time. They leak **** to leave a sent
trail for other mice, or themselves, to follow.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.

An over fed town cat might, our cat was a feral born farm cat who
adopted us. About 80% of anything she brought in was dead, 19%, so
badly hurt it could run and was was very soon dead. 1% alive enough
to run but cat was very patient and would catch and dispatch the
moment it re-showed itself. She might bat the corpse about a few
times but was far more interested in a snack.

It works.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/eng...ids/antifreeze

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 23:44:07 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:38:04 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.

The Rentokill tippy square tube live capture trap works but the
little buggers can get out and note about checking frequently. But
what do you do with live mouse in trap? Do you have a mouse cage to
put it and any others you catch? You *never* have A mouse. Then what
do you do with it? Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not
well defined. If you just take it out into your garden it'll probably
be back inside before you are. We live capture and used to release
100 m away down the in-bye, then we caught a mouse with a nick in one
of it's ears, we caught it again the next night and the next. After
that we took to deporting them up onto the fell a good few miles from
any habitation, they don't come back from there. I doubt many people
have a spot that is three miles from *any* habitation less than 5
miles away. B-)

Any suggestions on how to repel them?

Cat, for the last 7 years or so we had a cat and no mice (apart from
the ones she brought in and ate). A few months ago she lost an
argument with a car and now the weather has got colder the mice have
returned...

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

This is the best option for most people. Mice are destructive little
buggers that leak **** all the time. They leak **** to leave a sent
trail for other mice, or themselves, to follow.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.

An over fed town cat might, our cat was a feral born farm cat who
adopted us. About 80% of anything she brought in was dead, 19%, so
badly hurt it could run and was was very soon dead. 1% alive enough
to run but cat was very patient and would catch and dispatch the
moment it re-showed itself. She might bat the corpse about a few
times but was far more interested in a snack.

It works.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/eng...ids/antifreeze

You must disguise the foul taste.

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On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:54:39 -0000, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not well defined.

Never heard of that before.

Suggest you google.

Mine don't want to eat the mice. They give them to me as presents and
probably think I convert them into cat food. Why would they want to
have to remove the fur?

A real cat eats pretty much the whole thing, fur, feathers, bones,
entrails the lot. That's what our cat did with whatever she caught
from baby rabbits to shrews via birds, voles, moles, mice and
stoats(!). I say pretty much as she never ate any of the shrews she
caught (apparently they don't taste nice), bird legs not worth the
effort and as she got older she got fussy and would leave tend to
leave the stomachs of any voles.

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Cheers
Dave.

On 19/11/16 23:44, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:38:04 -0000, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:

I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them.

The Rentokill tippy square tube live capture trap works but the
little buggers can get out and note about checking frequently. But
what do you do with live mouse in trap? Do you have a mouse cage to
put it and any others you catch? You *never* have A mouse. Then what
do you do with it? Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not
well defined. If you just take it out into your garden it'll probably
be back inside before you are. We live capture and used to release
100 m away down the in-bye, then we caught a mouse with a nick in one
of it's ears, we caught it again the next night and the next. After
that we took to deporting them up onto the fell a good few miles from
any habitation, they don't come back from there. I doubt many people
have a spot that is three miles from *any* habitation less than 5
miles away. B-)

Any suggestions on how to repel them?

Cat, for the last 7 years or so we had a cat and no mice (apart from
the ones she brought in and ate). A few months ago she lost an
argument with a car and now the weather has got colder the mice have
returned...

The humane way is to kill them quickly.

This is the best option for most people. Mice are destructive little
buggers that leak **** all the time. They leak **** to leave a sent
trail for other mice, or themselves, to follow.

If you don't want to trap them, get a hungry cat.

Cats don't kill them quickly even when hungry.

Yes. Cats like to torture them.

An over fed town cat might, our cat was a feral born farm cat who
adopted us. About 80% of anything she brought in was dead, 19%, so
badly hurt it could run and was was very soon dead. 1% alive enough
to run but cat was very patient and would catch and dispatch the
moment it re-showed itself. She might bat the corpse about a few
times but was far more interested in a snack.

It works.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/eng...ids/antifreeze


That's nice, dear...


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what it actually is.

On 20/11/16 00:39, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:54:39 -0000, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not well defined.

Never heard of that before.

Suggest you google.

Mine don't want to eat the mice. They give them to me as presents and
probably think I convert them into cat food. Why would they want to
have to remove the fur?

A real cat eats pretty much the whole thing, fur, feathers, bones,
entrails the lot. That's what our cat did with whatever she caught
from baby rabbits to shrews via birds, voles, moles, mice and
stoats(!). I say pretty much as she never ate any of the shrews she
caught (apparently they don't taste nice), bird legs not worth the
effort and as she got older she got fussy and would leave tend to
leave the stomachs of any voles.

Stomachs and skulls left behind usually.

--
The biggest threat to humanity comes from socialism, which has utterly
diverted our attention away from what really matters to our existential
survival, to indulging in navel gazing and faux moral investigations
into what the world ought to be, whilst we fail utterly to deal with
what it actually is.

On 19-Nov-16 5:50 PM, James Harris wrote:
I suspect I have a problem with mice and don't want to kill them. Any
suggestions on how to repel them?

I've tried two different types of humane trap but neither caught a mouse.


They do work, but you need to place them where the mice run. If there is
no obvious run, a good place is along the base of a wall. You are also
more likely to be successful if you set several in different places. It
is a good idea to wear disposable gloves when setting the trap, to avoid
the possibility of them smelling of humans. As mentioned elsewhere, they
have to be checked frequently - every two hours is recommended, if not
always practical.

It also depends what type of mouse you have. The shop bought humane
traps are suitable for field mice, but I had to use a rat trap to catch
the much larger house mice. Not all rat traps are suitable, as mice can
get through the mesh on some.

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Colin Bignell

Chris Hogg wrote:

This seems even simpler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABffYDM9EwU

I like that, and the Mk II version

https://youtu.be/9MWGhn2u52Q

On 20/11/16 10:21, Andy Burns wrote:
Chris Hogg wrote:

This seems even simpler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABffYDM9EwU

I like that, and the Mk II version

https://youtu.be/9MWGhn2u52Q

THIS is a proper trap..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GNUnn-8KQ


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on the basis of gross exaggerations of highly uncertain computer
projections combined into implausible chains of inference, proceeded to
contemplate a rollback of the industrial age.

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On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 09:39:22 +0000, Nightjar
wrote:


They do work, but you need to place them where the mice run. If there is
no obvious run, a good place is along the base of a wall.

In a loft with insulation it can be right awkward to find them.
I found using one of those wildlife cameras sometimes called trap or
trail cameras very useful in finding where the pests moved about and
what their timetable was.
it shortened the time down to finding where they were gaining access
considerably so it could be blocked.

As I have two cameras one inside the loft showed roughly where a rat
was coming in and placing the other camera in the gutter pinpointed
the spot.
I dispatched that one as it came outside using air rifle then filled
the hole in the eave with foamed in wire wool.

G.Harman

In article ,
Nightjar wrote:
They do work, but you need to place them where the mice run. If there is
no obvious run, a good place is along the base of a wall. You are also
more likely to be successful if you set several in different places. It
is a good idea to wear disposable gloves when setting the trap, to avoid
the possibility of them smelling of humans.

Agreed. It's no good putting the trap down just anywhere - it needs to be
on a regularly used run. To find a run sprinkle a little flour where you
think it might be and next morning there will be footprints and possibly
little spots of caked flour due to a drop of mouse urine that they leak to
help them to find their way back in the dark. If not then hoover up and
try somewhere else.

We found that tube type humane mouse trap like the Rentokil Trap-ease
worked for us when we had a female car that regularly brought in mice in
to teach us (her "kittens") to catch them.

http://www.beautifulbritain.co.uk/im.../trap-ease.jpg

One place that we found a mouse nest was in the insulation around our
oven. After we cleared it out we fitted wire mesh under the oven.

Since the cat died 6 years ago we have not been troubled with mice in the
house.

Alan

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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

THIS is a proper trap..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GNUnn-8KQ

If I was forced to live in a cave, I think mice would be the last of my
worries ...

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
The Natural Philosopher wrote:

THIS is a proper trap..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89GNUnn-8KQ

If I was forced to live in a cave, I think mice would be the last of my
worries ...

Last because they would be gnawing on your immobile body ?

On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 00:39:34 -0000, Dave Liquorice wrote:

On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:54:39 -0000, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not well defined.

Never heard of that before.

Suggest you google.

Funny how everyone using humane traps releases them. You are not adding vermin, you are moving them, this cannot be illegal.

Mine don't want to eat the mice. They give them to me as presents and
probably think I convert them into cat food. Why would they want to
have to remove the fur?

A real cat eats pretty much the whole thing, fur, feathers, bones,
entrails the lot. That's what our cat did with whatever she caught
from baby rabbits to shrews via birds, voles, moles, mice and
stoats(!). I say pretty much as she never ate any of the shrews she
caught (apparently they don't taste nice), bird legs not worth the
effort and as she got older she got fussy and would leave tend to
leave the stomachs of any voles.

Mine are lazy.

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On Sun, 20 Nov 2016 01:22:35 -0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 20/11/16 00:39, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 22:54:39 -0000, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:

Releasing vermin is illegal, though the law is not well defined.

Never heard of that before.

Suggest you google.

Mine don't want to eat the mice. They give them to me as presents and
probably think I convert them into cat food. Why would they want to
have to remove the fur?

A real cat eats pretty much the whole thing, fur, feathers, bones,
entrails the lot. That's what our cat did with whatever she caught
from baby rabbits to shrews via birds, voles, moles, mice and
stoats(!). I say pretty much as she never ate any of the shrews she
caught (apparently they don't taste nice), bird legs not worth the
effort and as she got older she got fussy and would leave tend to
leave the stomachs of any voles.

Stomachs and skulls left behind usually.

I've never found a skull, but I have found tail and arse. Perhaps that end tastes bad.

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"C'mon, tell me," she asked for the thousandth time, "How many women have you slept with?"
"Baby, " he protested, "if I told you, you'd throw a fit." Kim promised she wouldn't get angry, and convinced her hubby to tell her.
"Okay," he said, then started to count on his fingers "One, two, three, four, five, six, seven - then there's you - nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen . . . "