Graham. wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/s...7629987840390/

Paging Rube Goldberg. You have competition. :-)

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On 31/05/2012 22:24, Graham. wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/s...7629987840390/

The less human version being where you drop that transformer on it!

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On 31/05/2012 22:24, Graham. wrote:


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I'm looking at a hard drive magnet in the midst of that.

What did ya do? Feed the poor fellow with biscuit cake laced with 50%
iron filings and then left him to enjoy the attractions of Mr magnet?

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On Thu, 31 May 2012 22:03:48 +0100, John Rumm
wrote:

On 31/05/2012 22:24, Graham. wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/s...7629987840390/

The less human version being where you drop that transformer on it!

Human mousetraps are availible on Ebay, smaller than mine suprisingly
;-)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Katcha-Hum...#ht_1702wt_952

Item location: United Kingdom


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I'm thinking of offering councelling services for the mice after their
trauma.

Brian

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On 31/05/2012 22:24, Graham. wrote:


http://www.flickr.com/photos/g3zvt/s...7629987840390/


Reminds me of a group of English I met, many years ago, who were staying
in a very rural Gite de France. With nothing better to do of an evening,
they spent the time drinking beer and building ever more elaborate ways
to trap mice.

Colin Bignell

Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:15:43 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I'm thinking of offering councelling services for the mice after their
trauma.

Brian


Brian, in one of the pictures, having being caught in semi-transparent
plastic box, he is standing to his full height on his little hind legs
looking rather indignant to say the least.

The last picture shows him being released in the local park and the
house-mouse starting his new life as a fieldmouse.

which will last less than a week., probably as he will die agionisingly
of starvation not knowing how to find food,. If a hawk doesn't get him
first.

Not many predators in a suburban house.


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On Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:23:50 PM UTC+1, Graham. wrote:

Human mousetraps are availible on Ebay, smaller than mine suprisingly
;-)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Katcha-Hum...#ht_1702wt_952

Don't do what a friend of mine did though... As much as she wanted rid of it, the thought of killing a 'cute little mouse' with a conventional trap horrified her so she plumped for a humane trap instead. Only problem was she forgot to check it regularly enough and one day found a mouse in it.... dead... it'd got trapped in that tiny space and must've slowly starved to death.

Mathew

One issue with animals is how do they perceive time. That is, as their lives
are very short even if they don't get eaten, do they feel their lives are
long or do they not have any perception at all, and just act on instinct.

Brian

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Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:15:43 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I'm thinking of offering councelling services for the mice after their
trauma.

Brian


Brian, in one of the pictures, having being caught in semi-transparent
plastic box, he is standing to his full height on his little hind legs
looking rather indignant to say the least.

The last picture shows him being released in the local park and the
house-mouse starting his new life as a fieldmouse.

which will last less than a week., probably as he will die agionisingly
of starvation not knowing how to find food,. If a hawk doesn't get him
first.

Not many predators in a suburban house.


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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 00:15:43 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
wrote:

I'm thinking of offering councelling services for the mice after their
trauma.

Brian


Brian, in one of the pictures, having being caught in semi-transparent
plastic box, he is standing to his full height on his little hind legs
looking rather indignant to say the least.

The last picture shows him being released in the local park and the
house-mouse starting his new life as a fieldmouse.

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On 01/06/2012 09:37, Mathew Newton wrote:

Don't do what a friend of mine did though... As much as she wanted
rid of it, the thought of killing a 'cute little mouse' with a
conventional trap horrified her so she plumped for a humane trap
instead. Only problem was she forgot to check it regularly enough and
one day found a mouse in it.... dead... it'd got trapped in that tiny
space and must've slowly starved to death.

I've used these successfully to trap mice on the loose here.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Big-Chee.../dp/B000LS57UE

After it had caught a couple, SWMBO left one of the traps outside on the
patio open to dry after washing out unmentionables left by the previous
residents.

It dutifully trapped another one. :-(

I held the trap upward so that the opening was at the top, and stared at
the cutest small baby white mouse I had ever seen. It also stared back
at me and probably thought I perhaps didn't look that cute. Nevertheless
we shared the moment(!) until I walked down the garden and out of the
back gate, where mousey decided to leg it jumping from an almost
suicidal height (for a mouse).

Never seen again. I miss 'im.

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:05:09 +0100, Graham. wrote:

Brian, in one of the pictures, having being caught in semi-transparent
plastic box, he is standing to his full height on his little hind legs
looking rather indignant to say the least.

Thinking "What's that blue thing, can I jump out?" The shallow box
is no challenge, the deeper one might require a bit of a scrabble at
the top depending on how used to jumping the little blighter is.

The last picture shows him being released in the local park and the
house-mouse starting his new life as a fieldmouse.

I think it's a field mouse (apodemus sylvaticus) anyway as it's
fairly dark brown, it's tail is the same length as its body and white
underneath. House mice (mus domesticus) are a lighter brown or grey
in colour and have a tail shorter than their body. House mice are
lighter underneath but not white.

If local park has housing within a mile or two it will be back inside
somewhere almost before the captor has got home...

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:06:22 +0100, Adrian C wrote:

I've used these successfully to trap mice on the loose here.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Big-Chee.../dp/B000LS57UE

Our mice can get out of those within about five minutes. The red
plastic latch isn't strong enough. Resorted to placing baby monitor
in loft with traps and listening for the sound of trap activation and
scrabbling. Then getting up there quick...

Had more success with
these:

http://www.rentokil.co.uk/residentia...-control-produ
cts/mouse-products/live-capture-mouse-trap/index.html

Until the little beggers knaw holes in the side where there are tiny
ventilation holes. These are big enough at about 1.5mm dia for them
to get enough purchase with their teeth.

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Brian Gaff wrote:

One issue with animals is how do they perceive time. That is, as their lives
are very short even if they don't get eaten, do they feel their lives are
long or do they not have any perception at all, and just act on instinct.

I think that one can reason from the basis of human experience that
short lived animals must experience time passing very slowly, more so
when in "fight or flight" mode.

Human children find that the days are long and that what seems like a
few minutes to an adult is eternity to the child.

In article ,
Mathew Newton writes:
Don't do what a friend of mine did though... As much as she wanted rid of it, the thought of killing a 'cute little mouse' with a conventional trap horrified her so she plumped for a humane trap instead. Only problem was she forgot to check it regularly enough and one day found a mouse in it.... dead... it'd got trapped in that tiny space and must've slowly starved to death.

They can only live a very short time (some hours) with no food or
water.

My grandmother wouldn't hurt a fly. She came to stay once when we had
mice (which turned out to be living off a bag of grass seed in the
loft, although we didn't yet know that).

One ran behind a little chest of drawers in her room whilst my dad was
trying to catch it. She lifted up the drawers, realised they were a
bit too heavy, and dropped them. That was the end of that mouse...

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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:16:36 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:05:09 +0100, Graham. wrote:

Brian, in one of the pictures, having being caught in semi-transparent
plastic box, he is standing to his full height on his little hind legs
looking rather indignant to say the least.

Thinking "What's that blue thing, can I jump out?" The shallow box
is no challenge, the deeper one might require a bit of a scrabble at
the top depending on how used to jumping the little blighter is.

The last picture shows him being released in the local park and the
house-mouse starting his new life as a fieldmouse.

I think it's a field mouse (apodemus sylvaticus) anyway as it's
fairly dark brown, it's tail is the same length as its body and white
underneath. House mice (mus domesticus) are a lighter brown or grey
in colour and have a tail shorter than their body. House mice are
lighter underneath but not white.

If local park has housing within a mile or two it will be back inside
somewhere almost before the captor has got home...

....If the urban foxes don't get it first, although I would guess a
domestic cat would me more nimble on its toes.

Interesting to hear that it might be a fieldmouse though.

It's fortunate I kept the lid on the box, after I removed it and I
took a second shot without the lens-cap dangling, it had already
jumped out.

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On Jun 1, 11:49*am, Graham. wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:16:36 +0100 (BST), "Dave Liquorice"





wrote:
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 10:05:09 +0100, Graham. wrote:

Brian, in one of the pictures, having being caught in semi-transparent
plastic box, he is standing to his full height on his little hind legs
looking rather indignant to say the least.

Thinking "What's that blue thing, can I jump out?" *The shallow box
is no challenge, the deeper one might require a bit of a scrabble at
the top depending on how used to jumping the little blighter is.

The last picture shows him being released in the local park and the
house-mouse starting his new life as a fieldmouse.

I think it's a field mouse (apodemus sylvaticus) anyway as it's
fairly dark brown, it's tail is the same length as its body and white
underneath. House mice (mus domesticus) are a lighter brown or grey
in colour and have a tail shorter than their body. House mice are
lighter underneath but not white.

If local park has housing within a mile or two it will be back inside
somewhere almost before the captor has got home...

...If the urban foxes don't get it first, although I would guess a
domestic cat would me more nimble on its toes.


I once saw a cat toying with a mouse on our lawn. It would let it run
a few yards, then pounce on it and pat it with its paw a bit, then
repeat the process. I remember the cat sitting nonchalantly,
pretending to ignore the mouse. Unfortunately, it misjudged one
attempt and mousey made it to safety under the garden shed. Serve you
right, you sadistic feline...

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On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:37:16 -0700 (PDT), fred wrote:

Living in the country we only ever get field mice in the house. At the
first cold snap they try to move indoors. Trick is the kill the
blighters before they start to breed, Get mammy and daddy and problem
solved .

+1

Took us a few winters to work that one out along with working out
that 100yds from the house wasn't far enough. They now get deported
several miles away from any habitation to take their chances.

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On 01/06/2012 15:10, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 04:37:16 -0700 (PDT), fred wrote:

Living in the country we only ever get field mice in the house. At the
first cold snap they try to move indoors. Trick is the kill the
blighters before they start to breed, Get mammy and daddy and problem
solved .

+1

Took us a few winters to work that one out along with working out
that 100yds from the house wasn't far enough. They now get deported
several miles away from any habitation to take their chances.

Yup, I am sure we have deported the same ones several times over! Not
only that, the remaining one or two are very much harder to catch
(possibly again).


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On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:50:06 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

Living in the country we only ever get field mice in the house.
At the
first cold snap they try to move indoors. Trick is the kill the
blighters before they start to breed, Get mammy and daddy and
problem
solved .

+1

Took us a few winters to work that one out along with working out
that 100yds from the house wasn't far enough. They now get
deported
several miles away from any habitation to take their chances.

Yup, I am sure we have deported the same ones several times over!

It was after catching the same mouse three nights on the trot that we
decided that 100yds wasn't enough. How did we know it was the same
mouse? It had a nick in one of it's ears.

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