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A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99.
Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. NT |
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On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:40:39 -0700, tabbypurr wrote:
A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99. Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. A couple of years ago, somebody here recommended the Evolution saws. £100 at Screwfix, but there's always B- and C-grade on eBay from their official outlet store. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112000231085 The B-grade I bought has stood up very, VERY well to reasonably heavy domestic use - the "B-gradeness" of it seemed to be an ex-display model, with a couple of holes drilled in the legs to secure it. The blade was brand new, and there were no other signs of use. Gotta be a better bet than an Aldidl one with some design problems. |
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On Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:58:10 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr wrote: Turntable has no position lock Two of the photos on the website show a locking knob ... Site's detail view won't load. There are knobs I initally assumed were turntable lock, but turned out to be for the clamps. I forgot to mention one other shortcoming. Clamp metalwork is chrome plated, making it difficult to clamp up without doing up all the screws on them first. My Rexon OTOH clamps fine with all the screws undone, a real time saver. Also the Aldi has a split fence, which gives much more support than a traditional fixed 1 piece fence. NT |
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On Friday, 20 May 2016 11:02:01 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:
tabbypurr wrote: Andy Burns wrote: tabbypurr wrote: Turntable has no position lock Two of the photos on the website show a locking knob ... Site's detail view won't load. The black knob at the front? https://cdn.aldi-digital.co.uk/Double-Bevel-Sliding-Mitre-Saw-C.jpg?o=GTiBqiRJV8DRE18sw3hnRjf7GX0j&V=tIZ3&w=480& h=600&p=2&q=77 It's not here now for me to look at. All I can say is that's a long way from anywhere where moving turntable meets stationary base. NT |
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wrote: Turntable has no position lock Two of the photos on the website show a locking knob ... But strangely not the initial one... -- Jim K ----Android NewsGroup Reader---- http://usenet.sinaapp.com/ |
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On 5/20/2016 8:09 AM, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:40:39 -0700, tabbypurr wrote: A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99. Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. A couple of years ago, somebody here recommended the Evolution saws. £100 at Screwfix, but there's always B- and C-grade on eBay from their official outlet store. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112000231085 The B-grade I bought has stood up very, VERY well to reasonably heavy domestic use - the "B-gradeness" of it seemed to be an ex-display model, with a couple of holes drilled in the legs to secure it. The blade was brand new, and there were no other signs of use. Gotta be a better bet than an Aldidl one with some design problems. Glad you posted that, I have one of these too and was thinking exactly the same thing. The Evolution blade will also cut aluminium and steel, very useful (but you get sprayed with sharp chips). Very good for cutting dexion. Mine is out on loan to one of the kids at the moment so not sure of the model. The knob for locking the turntable angle has come adrift from the screw although you can still tighten it, I will need to pin and/or glue it when it comes home. I think I bought a medium sized one (210 mm?), there were larger and smaller when I bought mine. No sign at all of "wear" on my B grade, I guess I might find that the knob has already been glued back before. |
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![]() "newshound" wrote in message ... On 5/20/2016 8:09 AM, Adrian wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:40:39 -0700, tabbypurr wrote: A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99. Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. A couple of years ago, somebody here recommended the Evolution saws. £100 at Screwfix, but there's always B- and C-grade on eBay from their official outlet store. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112000231085 The B-grade I bought has stood up very, VERY well to reasonably heavy domestic use - the "B-gradeness" of it seemed to be an ex-display model, with a couple of holes drilled in the legs to secure it. The blade was brand new, and there were no other signs of use. Gotta be a better bet than an Aldidl one with some design problems. Glad you posted that, I have one of these too and was thinking exactly the same thing. The Evolution blade will also cut aluminium and steel, very useful (but you get sprayed with sharp chips). Very good for cutting dexion. Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? Mine is out on loan to one of the kids at the moment so not sure of the model. The knob for locking the turntable angle has come adrift from the screw although you can still tighten it, I will need to pin and/or glue it when it comes home. I think I bought a medium sized one (210 mm?), there were larger and smaller when I bought mine. No sign at all of "wear" on my B grade, I guess I might find that the knob has already been glued back before. |
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On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size NT |
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size Nor me. 25mm square black (unslottted) tube with knock in joints sounds more like (Dexion) Speedframe? Cheers, T i m |
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T i m wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size Nor me. 25mm square black (unslottted) tube with knock in joints sounds more like (Dexion) Speedframe? Yes. Made some speaker stands from it. They once did a smaller version (20mm?) in matt chrome. I use an angle grinder in a stand with steel cutting disc to cut it. I've use my sliding saw to cut ally - not sure I'd want to risk an expensive blade on steel. Even one which claims to cut it. ;-) My local Dexion stockist is no more. Now a block of expensive flats. ;-) -- *You know you're a redneck if your home has wheels and your car doesn't. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 12:09:24 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , T i m wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size Nor me. 25mm square black (unslottted) tube with knock in joints sounds more like (Dexion) Speedframe? Yes. Made some speaker stands from it. I built an electric racing 'motorbike' from it (that used to be my bench at work). ;-) https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5772409/EV1.jpg They once did a smaller version (20mm?) in matt chrome. Not seen that. I use an angle grinder in a stand with steel cutting disc to cut it. I used a hacksaw when building the EV. I've use my sliding saw to cut ally - not sure I'd want to risk an expensive blade on steel. Even one which claims to cut it. ;-) I (now) have a steel cutting bandsaw and one of those big bench grinding disk type cutters (loads of sparks though). My local Dexion stockist is no more. Now a block of expensive flats. ;-) I'm not surprised. Who (outside us here) builds anything these days, even benches or racking. ;-( Even kids construction sets are just kits for specific models. When I had Lego and Meccano I don't think I ever got any instructions with it .... and didn't need any. ;-) Cheers, T i m |
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On Sat, 21 May 2016 12:33:44 +0100, T i m wrote:
My local Dexion stockist is no more. Now a block of expensive flats. ;-) I'm not surprised. Who (outside us here) builds anything these days, even benches or racking. ;-( I had some Dexion 'clone' delivered two days ago. For some racking I want to build. -- My posts are my copyright and if @diy_forums or Home Owners' Hub wish to copy them they can pay me £1 a message. Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org *lightning surge protection* - a w_tom conductor |
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On 5/21/2016 7:18 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
"newshound" wrote in message ... On 5/20/2016 8:09 AM, Adrian wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2016 13:40:39 -0700, tabbypurr wrote: A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99. Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. A couple of years ago, somebody here recommended the Evolution saws. £100 at Screwfix, but there's always B- and C-grade on eBay from their official outlet store. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/112000231085 The B-grade I bought has stood up very, VERY well to reasonably heavy domestic use - the "B-gradeness" of it seemed to be an ex-display model, with a couple of holes drilled in the legs to secure it. The blade was brand new, and there were no other signs of use. Gotta be a better bet than an Aldidl one with some design problems. Glad you posted that, I have one of these too and was thinking exactly the same thing. The Evolution blade will also cut aluminium and steel, very useful (but you get sprayed with sharp chips). Very good for cutting dexion. Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? There are two sizes of the perforated angle iron, more like 4 x 2 or 2 x 2. Over here we tend to call the square stuff speedframe. It's fine for cutting either of them. |
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On 21 May 2016 13:46:52 GMT, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2016 12:33:44 +0100, T i m wrote: My local Dexion stockist is no more. Now a block of expensive flats. ;-) I'm not surprised. Who (outside us here) builds anything these days, even benches or racking. ;-( I had some Dexion 'clone' delivered two days ago. For some racking I want to build. I still have a few Dexion based racks and possibly some Dexion metal draws that suit. The bench in my workshop I built (4 welded frames bolted to the longitudinals and braces) from scratch using some fairly heavy angle because I wanted something that I could bolt a big vise to and would take a thump and not move etc. Cheers, T i m |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size I was just guessing, didnt bother to look it up, presumably its 4x2" or something. |
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![]() "T i m" wrote in message ... On Sat, 21 May 2016 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size Nor me. Yeah, my brain fart there in hindsight. Nowhere near as big as the 5x3" RHS that I have along the top of entire N and S walls that the galvanised I beams with one flange missing are welded to. 25mm square black (unslottted) tube with knock in joints sounds more like (Dexion) Speedframe? Yep. But the slotted version. I don't use the knock in joints, I weld them into rectangular floor to ceiling frames and dynabolt those to the concrete slab floor and block walls and do all the shelving in the house that way, for books, pantry and general shelving and wardrobes etc. With 12mm aluminium flats cut to length that go in the slots, with the shelves resting on those with the shallower shelving for books and the pantry instead of the little metal clips that Dexion sells. Shelves in a variety of mdf, timber, melamine clad mdf in the pantry. |
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![]() "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , T i m wrote: On Sat, 21 May 2016 02:12:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Saturday, 21 May 2016 07:18:35 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: Which dexion are you talking about, the roughly 5x3" angle with very large holes in it for bolts, or the 25mm square black slotted tube with knock in corners ? I've never seen Dexion that size Nor me. 25mm square black (unslottted) tube with knock in joints sounds more like (Dexion) Speedframe? Yes. Made some speaker stands from it. They once did a smaller version (20mm?) in matt chrome. I use an angle grinder in a stand with steel cutting disc to cut it. I use a 10" hand held circular saw in my own cutoff saw stand with a steel cutting disk to cut it but I was asking if he uses that other blade to do that. I now have 3 dedicate cutoff saws which is handy because the switch in that circular saw that I used to build the house with has now died. I've use my sliding saw to cut ally - not sure I'd want to risk an expensive blade on steel. Even one which claims to cut it. ;-) Yeah, that's what I have done so far but was wondering if he found it works fine so it might be worth trying myself. The steel cutting disk isnt perfect in the sense that you do get a bit of flange of steel that you need to trim with an angle grinder after cutting it and I've always had some reservations about what it would be like if the disk comes apart in use. Not that I have ever had one fail. My local Dexion stockist is no more. Now a block of expensive flats. ;-) I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. I should really just guillotine the spines off in a massive great hydraulic guillotine and use a decent scanner to turn all the books into ebooks but that seems a tad gung ho even for me. |
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On Saturday, 21 May 2016 21:54:48 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. I should really just guillotine the spines off in a massive great hydraulic guillotine and use a decent scanner to turn all the books into ebooks but that seems a tad gung ho even for me. I wouldn't be surprised if most titles have been OCRed already. NT |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Saturday, 21 May 2016 21:54:48 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. I should really just guillotine the spines off in a massive great hydraulic guillotine and use a decent scanner to turn all the books into ebooks but that seems a tad gung ho even for me. I wouldn't be surprised if most titles have been OCRed already. Trouble is the prices that Amazon wants for them. They are almost entirely books that I have got from garage/yard sales, mostly for 50c, sometimes for $1 each. Amazon wants at least $10 for most of them, plenty of them it wants a lot more than that. I dont buy fiction much at all anymore, that's almost exclusively non fiction and I have thousands of them quite literally. |
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Rod Speed wrote: The steel cutting disk isnt perfect in the sense that you do get a bit of flange of steel that you need to trim with an angle grinder after cutting it and I've always had some reservations about what it would be like if the disk comes apart in use. Not that I have ever had one fail. The trick is to change the disc frequently as they seem to blunt. They're cheap enough. And not 'force' it through the work too hard. That minimises any lip. And with painted Speedframe, prevents damage to the paint. Also it might depend on the speed of your saw. The angle grinder is optimised for discs. But most will need a rub with a file etc after cutting. -- *You can't have everything, where would you put it?* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Sunday, 22 May 2016 02:10:49 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Saturday, 21 May 2016 21:54:48 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, no issue there with wood framing nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. wood shelving is infinitely adjustable. Could you just get something right for once in your idiot life? |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote
Rod Speed wrote The steel cutting disk isnt perfect in the sense that you do get a bit of flange of steel that you need to trim with an angle grinder after cutting it and I've always had some reservations about what it would be like if the disk comes apart in use. Not that I have ever had one fail. The trick is to change the disc frequently as they seem to blunt. Never saw anything like that myself. They're cheap enough. And not 'force' it through the work too hard. That minimises any lip. You still get a lip that needs to be dealt with and since I normally do that with 4" angle grinder it really doesn’t matter if its minimised if you need to use the angle grinder at all. That is the big potential advantage of a toothed cutting disk, in theory there should be no lip at all. But obviously the blades are much more expensive, which is why I haven't tried doing it that way yet, and why I asked how well it works on Speedframe. And with painted Speedframe, prevents damage to the paint. Not a major consideration for me because I normally weld the Speedframe corners instead of using the tap in corners. Also it might depend on the speed of your saw. The angle grinder is optimised for discs. But I prefer to use the circular saw, much easier to do a cutoff saw with a hand held circular saw than with an angle grinder and I need the big metal cutting disks for the other RHS cutting. I do quite a bit of stuff with 50x50mm RHS, particularly the big gate and the frame for the 20' long kitchen bench which is cantilevered off the wall with no legs at all so you can put anything you like in the way of cupboards, dishwashers, small upright freezers the size of bar fridges under that and rearrange them any time you need to when say a dishwasher dies and is replaced or even have two of them etc. That bench runs the entire length of that side of the kitchen with a block wall return at either end of it so the whole thing is cantilevered with no legs at all. And now with multiple real cutoff saws, the choice is 14" metal cutoff disks or one of those toothed metal cutting disks. But most will need a rub with a file etc after cutting. I don’t need to because I arc weld the corners and paint them after welding. |
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Rod Speed wrote tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, no issue there with wood framing MUCH easier to do with slotted steel tube. nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. wood shelving is infinitely adjustable. But not as easily as moving what is in the slot. |
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On Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:09:32 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, no issue there with wood framing MUCH easier to do with slotted steel tube. is it? nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. wood shelving is infinitely adjustable. But not as easily as moving what is in the slot. A screw versus a bolt. The main upside of timber framed shelving is that you can make it the exact size and if necessary shape of wherever it's going, in all 3 dimensions. It also looks much better in a home than dexion. And finally it's much more versatile and easy to add features onto, something that's seldom done with steel because it's a pig to do. NT |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:09:32 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, no issue there with wood framing MUCH easier to do with slotted steel tube. is it? Corse it is. nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. wood shelving is infinitely adjustable. But not as easily as moving what is in the slot. A screw versus a bolt. There is no bolt. The main upside of timber framed shelving is that you can make it the exact size and if necessary shape of wherever it's going, in all 3 dimensions. Even sillier than you usually manage with a properly built house. It also looks much better in a home than dexion. Even sillier than you usually manage with Speedframe. And finally it's much more versatile and easy to add features onto, Only a terminal ****wit like you does anything like that. something that's seldom done with steel because it's a pig to do. Because only terminal ****wits like you do stupid stuff like that. |
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On Monday, 23 May 2016 10:47:59 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:09:32 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, no issue there with wood framing MUCH easier to do with slotted steel tube. is it? Corse it is. nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. wood shelving is infinitely adjustable. But not as easily as moving what is in the slot. A screw versus a bolt. There is no bolt. The main upside of timber framed shelving is that you can make it the exact size and if necessary shape of wherever it's going, in all 3 dimensions. Even sillier than you usually manage with a properly built house. It also looks much better in a home than dexion. Even sillier than you usually manage with Speedframe. And finally it's much more versatile and easy to add features onto, Only a terminal ****wit like you does anything like that. something that's seldom done with steel because it's a pig to do. Because only terminal ****wits like you do stupid stuff like that. Thank you for confirming you're unable to substantiate any of your claims. And say hello to the kill file. NT |
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![]() "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, Unless you want the thing toppling over, you need to screw it to the wall at the top, whatever its made of. Steel, wood, whatever. Once its screwed to the wall at the top, in two or more places its rigid. michael adams .... |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Monday, 23 May 2016 10:47:59 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Sunday, 22 May 2016 20:09:32 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote: tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote tabbypurr wrote Rod Speed wrote I can't find anyone local selling the dexion slotted tube anymore and was considering importing a pack or two of it. I got one when I was building the house and have now used it all for shelving and need to do some more, mainly for full floor to ceiling bookshelves covering an entire quite large wall. Wood works better for that sort of thing. Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, no issue there with wood framing MUCH easier to do with slotted steel tube. is it? Corse it is. nothing like as easy to have slots every 25mm so you can adjust the shelf spacing to minimise the waste of space vertically. wood shelving is infinitely adjustable. But not as easily as moving what is in the slot. A screw versus a bolt. There is no bolt. The main upside of timber framed shelving is that you can make it the exact size and if necessary shape of wherever it's going, in all 3 dimensions. Even sillier than you usually manage with a properly built house. It also looks much better in a home than dexion. Even sillier than you usually manage with Speedframe. And finally it's much more versatile and easy to add features onto, Only a terminal ****wit like you does anything like that. something that's seldom done with steel because it's a pig to do. Because only terminal ****wits like you do stupid stuff like that. Thank you for confirming you're unable to substantiate any of your claims. YOU made that stupid claim. YOU get to substantiate your stupid pig ignorant claim. THATS how it works. And say hello to the kill file. Thanks for running up the white flag so enthusiastically, ****wit child. |
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michael adams wrote
Rod Speed wrote Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, Unless you want the thing toppling over, you need to screw it to the wall at the top, whatever its made of. Steel, wood, whatever. I said that in the bit you carefully deleted from the quoting. Once its screwed to the wall at the top, in two or more places its rigid. Pigs arse it is if the frame isnt made properly. Much easier to do that with welded Speedframe. |
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On Monday, 23 May 2016 12:36:02 UTC+1, michael adams wrote:
"Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, Unless you want the thing toppling over, you need to screw it to the wall at the top, whatever its made of. Steel, wood, whatever. Depends on its dimensions. NT |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Monday, 23 May 2016 12:36:02 UTC+1, michael adams wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, Unless you want the thing toppling over, you need to screw it to the wall at the top, whatever its made of. Steel, wood, whatever. Depends on its dimensions. Indeed. But the ceiling height bookshelves which were mentioned, presumably around 8ft high - should ideally be no more than 9 or 10 inches deep so as to make the best use of available space. With all the weight towards the front edge, than than being pushed in against the wall at the back. michael adams .... |
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![]() "michael adams" wrote in message o.uk... wrote in message ... On Monday, 23 May 2016 12:36:02 UTC+1, michael adams wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, Unless you want the thing toppling over, you need to screw it to the wall at the top, whatever its made of. Steel, wood, whatever. Depends on its dimensions. Indeed. But the ceiling height bookshelves which were mentioned, presumably around 8ft high - should ideally be no more than 9 or 10 inches deep so as to make the best use of available space. Depends on what you have on it. That isnt too bad for books, but is too shallow for where you want to put the big stuff like cutoff saws and lawn mowers and spare wall ovens, dishwashers, washing machines etc. With all the weight towards the front edge, than than being pushed in against the wall at the back. |
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On Tuesday, 24 May 2016 19:55:18 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
"michael adams" wrote in message o.uk... tabbypurr wrote in message ... On Monday, 23 May 2016 12:36:02 UTC+1, michael adams wrote: "Rod Speed" wrote in message ... Like hell it does. Nothing like as easy to make completely rigid vertical frames that support the shelves, Unless you want the thing toppling over, you need to screw it to the wall at the top, whatever its made of. Steel, wood, whatever. Depends on its dimensions. Indeed. But the ceiling height bookshelves which were mentioned, presumably around 8ft high - should ideally be no more than 9 or 10 inches deep so as to make the best use of available space. yes, fixing vital for that one. Depends on what you have on it. That isnt too bad for books, but is too shallow for where you want to put the big stuff like cutoff saws and lawn mowers and spare wall ovens, dishwashers, washing machines etc. Idiot strikes again NT |
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On Thursday, 19 May 2016 21:40:42 UTC+1, tabbypurr wrote:
A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99. Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. NT Now 50 quid. Remarkable deal imho. NT |
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A quick review - it's still in stock at £79.99. Solidly built, all metal base, fast cutting, very clean cutting. Turntable has no position lock, but it doesn't need one due to the firm engagement of angular positions. What it's like if you're cutting an odd angle without an indentation I don't know. Max cut length over 12", max cut depth 7.7cm. The motor is angled upward giving welcome space, and the cutting head can tilt in both directions (left & right) upto 45 degrees. The cons: The release whatsit that enables the head to go down is plastic. The saw will work fine if it gets broken, but it wouldn't then be workplace legal. Not hard to fabricate one, but then you'd have a modified saw. The turntable angle pointer is also plastic. It's only needed for odd angle cuts. The laser points down the centre of the cut line, not down one edge. The spring pushing the cutting head up is OTT. If you're using the saw a lot it creates more fatigue than necessary. Overall a good performing saw, but wouldn't say no to a few minor design points sorting. NT I bought their Miter saw stand too & its sturdy enough but the bolts that hold it together are made out of zinc plated cheese. They snap before you even put a spanner on them. Soon as you take a wrench out of your tool box the saw stand knows and the bolts snap. |
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replying to tabbypurr, HandsomeMan wrote:
I bought their miter saw stand & it's sturdy enough but like all of the Aldi stuff the bolts that hold it together were made out of zinc plated cheese & snapped with very light tightening. If you are prepared to replace the bolts etc. it's OK I guess. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...w-1131227-.htm |
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Could it be that they were over tightened in the first place?
Brian -- ----- - This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from... The Sofa of Brian Gaff... Blind user, so no pictures please! "HandsomeMan" m wrote in message ... replying to tabbypurr, HandsomeMan wrote: I bought their miter saw stand & it's sturdy enough but like all of the Aldi stuff the bolts that hold it together were made out of zinc plated cheese & snapped with very light tightening. If you are prepared to replace the bolts etc. it's OK I guess. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...w-1131227-.htm |
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