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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:28:56 +0000, Andy Champ wrote:

On 26/11/2012 15:00, Jules Richardson wrote:
Is a car park private[1] land? i.e. could someone in theory slap dummy
plates on as soon as they're off the road and then put the real plates
back on before leaving again, and still remain within the law?

[1] I think supermarket ones have been legally shown not to be (although
quite why, I'm not sure). But I don't know if that extends to all car
parks...


IANAL but I think the road traffic acts apply to land "where the public
has access".


With exemptions for motor sport events authorised and run by specific bodies.
They had to fight to get the exemptions otherwise everyone at a track or a stage
rally, or autotest, or a drag race could have been prosecuted for a whole host
of offences.


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On 26/11/2012 09:24, Tim Lamb wrote:
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The problem is not the replacing of bulbs.
It is the soft suspension of modern cars neccesitating headlight
adjusters that work from the dashboard which some people don't bother
with.


Headlights that are a bit high - maybe. Headlights straight in my face
or right in my mirror - moron behind the wheel who doesn't know what a
blue warning indicator means. One headlight in the ditch and one
pointing at the moon - wrongly fitted bulbs. By far the vast majority
of cases fall into the latter two categories, and the problem with the
second of those two most definitely *is* in the replacing of the bulbs
...


4/4s often have headlights mounted such that they shine directly on your
wing mirrors when following closely.


My mirror finish, stainless-steel bodied kit-car does a very good job of
dazzling following drivers who are dazzling me in the mirror!

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:44:26 -0000, SteveW wrote:

On 26/11/2012 20:54, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:38:31 -0000, SteveW
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On 26/11/2012 11:46, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 09:04:27 -0000, Huge
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On 2012-11-26, Dave Liquorice wrote:





+1

The Aldi here is fine. Apart from remembering the ****ing pound coin
for the trolley.

A 20 cents (Euro) works fine and as you can't spend it here, you don't
find that you're suddenly without. At only 20c, you can keep a few
spares in the car, just in case you lose one too.


Spending it isn't the problem, remembering to take it from the car is..
I always walk from the car to the shop twice. I always pay with a
credit or debit card, I don't carry cash.


I make extra efforts to get change, but if I don't use it to pay for
something from a machine (vending or parking), my wife always needs
change for school things, so the 20c are the only coins I manage to hang
on to!


If I'm in a foul mood and I forget my £1 coin, I go back to the car, grab a huge pile of coppers, and go and change them in the supermarket.

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 22:44:35 -0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 26/11/2012 20:42, Lieutenant Scott wrote:


Why get drivers off the road for which you have no evidence that they
drive dangerously?


there is direct evidence that they don't follow the rules.


So what? The only thing that's important is accidents. Until one happens, you 're trying to predict the future. Are you a pig?

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:22:28 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 26/11/2012 18:23, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:18:26 -0000, ARW
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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:57:58 -0000, dennis@home
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On 26/11/2012 00:10, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:23:20 -0000, dennis@home
wrote:

On 25/11/2012 13:54, Bill wrote:
In message , fred writes

Static ones are certainly illuminated with IR floods and
you get the plate lighting up with the on axis reflection,
just like cats eyes. Don't know about the mobile ones but
it would be a bit of an omission if they didn't have them
too.


I recently fitted an ANPR camera for a customer, attached to
their CCTV system. They are amazing, even in bright
sunlight there is next to no image. As you say they have IR
illumination and this is reflected back from the number
plate. The effect is outstanding, the filter in front of the
camera basically only allows the IR frequency of light
through and the number plate shows perfectly, day or night.
The mobile ones do appear to have IR illuminators too.

Its done to make sure the idiots that fit reflective coatings
on plates and other such junk get caught.

What's idiotic about avoiding the ****ing GATSOs?

Being idiotic enough to think they work! Looks like you do.

How would people know they don't work?

And for your information I don't. I use a satnav so I slow down
before the gatso.

dennis will soon tell you that you should not have to slow down for a
GATSO
and that he believes that ALL vehicles should be linked via GPS to
limit their top speed to exactly the maximum allowed.


George Orwell, 1984.


He is talking crap.
I said it would record the event so the speeder could be fined and
disqualified.
There is no need for it to limit.


What if they exceeded the limit to avoid an accident due to no fault of
their own?


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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:35:06 -0000, Tim Streater wrote:

In article op.woee010iytk5n5@i7-940, "Lieutenant Scott"
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:38:31 -0000, SteveW wrote:

On 26/11/2012 11:46, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
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On 2012-11-26, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 00:06:01 -0000, Lieutenant Scott wrote:


That would cause me not to shop at Aldi.

Would be a major put off for me as well.


The Aldi here is fine. Apart from remembering the ****ing pound coin
for the trolley.

A 20 cents (Euro) works fine and as you can't spend it here, you don't
find that you're suddenly without. At only 20c, you can keep a few
spares in the car, just in case you lose one too.


Spending it isn't the problem, remembering to take it from the car is. I
always walk from the car to the shop twice. I always pay with a credit or
debit card, I don't carry cash.


Except you have to bend the card a few times to get it in the little
slot in the trolley.


Groan.....

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:31:39 -0000, Jules Richardson wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 20:22:28 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 26/11/2012 18:23, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 18:18:26 -0000, ARW
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Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 07:57:58 -0000, dennis@home
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On 26/11/2012 00:10, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 20:23:20 -0000, dennis@home
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On 25/11/2012 13:54, Bill wrote:
In message , fred writes

Static ones are certainly illuminated with IR floods and
you get the plate lighting up with the on axis reflection,
just like cats eyes. Don't know about the mobile ones but
it would be a bit of an omission if they didn't have them
too.


I recently fitted an ANPR camera for a customer, attached to
their CCTV system. They are amazing, even in bright
sunlight there is next to no image. As you say they have IR
illumination and this is reflected back from the number
plate. The effect is outstanding, the filter in front of the
camera basically only allows the IR frequency of light
through and the number plate shows perfectly, day or night.
The mobile ones do appear to have IR illuminators too.

Its done to make sure the idiots that fit reflective coatings
on plates and other such junk get caught.

What's idiotic about avoiding the ****ing GATSOs?

Being idiotic enough to think they work! Looks like you do.

How would people know they don't work?

And for your information I don't. I use a satnav so I slow down
before the gatso.

dennis will soon tell you that you should not have to slow down for a
GATSO
and that he believes that ALL vehicles should be linked via GPS to
limit their top speed to exactly the maximum allowed.

George Orwell, 1984.


He is talking crap.
I said it would record the event so the speeder could be fined and
disqualified.
There is no need for it to limit.


What if they exceeded the limit to avoid an accident due to no fault of
their own?


Considering an old woman got done for speeding while being scared of a lorry tailgating her, yes they probably would.

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:57:33 +0000, John Williamson
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required badge or a parent and child bay without the required number of
children,


Are those signs going by a general description of what could be
possible or a legal definition of a child?
My mother now in her 80's doesn't find walking too far that easily
recently but probably wouldn't qualify for a disabled badge just yet.
I threatened the other day to park in a Parent and Child place but was
stopped more by her protestations of embarrassment more than anything
else.

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Arfa Daily wrote:
Changing a bulb for one of the correct type won't alter the beam
setting. What is more likely is the car has been damaged and repaired
and the new unit not adjusted correctly. If a new car, this won't be
picked up until the first MOT.


When was the last time you changed a headlight bulb Dave ?


I changed the dip pair car recently. H7. They were old and not as bright
as new.

They have
offset locating 'tangs' on them to make sure that the main and dip
filaments are correctly located in the reflector.


Quite.

Unfortunately, many
modern headlamp units are so awkwardly located that bulb replacement
can only be carried out by feel. In these cases, it is perfectly
possible to get the bulb in place such that at least one of the
locating tangs is not in its slot.


It's possible to cross thread a nut too.



Your point being ? Many people *do* cross-thread nuts, just like many people
mis-fit headlight bulbs ...



Because the retaining clip is only
made of a thin gauge spring steel wire, it is vanishingly easy to force
it back into its clip, thus holding the bulb in its seat at an angle.
The result of this is a beam pointing either at the ditch, or the moon


And you'd leave it like that till the next MOT?


No, *I* wouldn't, because I know how to fit them correctly. Sadly, I appear
to be in a minority ...

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"Lieutenant Scott" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:02:59 -0000, Arfa Daily
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Yes, I know I've had a bitch on here before about DIY headlight
repairs,
but
I swear it's getting worse year on year. Since the evenings have got
dark
again, I've been blinded from the front and dazzled from the rear so
many
times that I've lost count. This is either because headlight bulbs have
been
fitted incorrectly, or the cretins behind the wheel don't know what the
blue
light on the dash means ...

It means the blue xenons are on.

On top of this, on more than one occasion, I've almost run into the
back
of
a motorbike that's turned out to be a car with the offside tail light
out.

You must have pretty poor eyesight, did the car not have reflectors?
Were
your headlights not on?

Today, I had to drive to another town some thirty miles away, and for
most
of the time it was more or less foggy. At least one in three cars was
not
showing any lights. I think I saw about two that were actually using
their
rear fog lights. Funny how drivers always manage to find the tiresome
things
on a dark wet night when they are guaranteed to dazzle you, but never
have
them on when it's full daylight and thick fog !

I agree with yo on the lights, but not the fog lights. Fog lights look
like brakes, I never use them. If you're following someone in the fog
and
they brake, you might not notice.

Anyway, on the return trip, as I passed the main county police
headquarters,
a law car pulled out behind me. It had one headlight pointing into the
ditch, and the other up into my rearview mirror. If it's now reached
the
point where even the coppers can't keep their own vehicles legal, we
might
as well all give up ...

I would have pulled him over for a laugh.

DIY headlight bulb replacement should be banned. You ought to have to
take
your car to approved garages where there is someone trained and
certified
to
change the wretched things correctly :-(

How can you replace a bulb wrong, they have ****ing notches!



Oh dear ...


Whatever you're oh dearing about, be more specific.

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I was, quite obviously, responding to your last line. Clearly, you have
either not been properly following the thread, or not understanding it.
Whilst it's true that they do have ****ing notches, they never-the-less can
be fitted wrongly, as many on here have already attested to ...

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 19:38:19 +0000, The Medway Handyman
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Halfords change them for free.


You mean optional fitting is included in the inflated price they
charge.


When I picked one up in there on Saturday evening (stress purchase, spare
was duff and I hate driving SWMBOs car at the best of times, let alone with
a headlight out) they wanted 7 quid to change the bulb for me.

Also, they'll only fit the easy ones - if it's difficult then they won't
do it :-)

Or, they'll take 45 minutes of bashing & faffing, (C4 rear/stop bulbs),
need help from their supervisor and leave me vowing never to cross their
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On 26/11/2012 23:31, Jules Richardson wrote:
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8


He is talking crap.
I said it would record the event so the speeder could be fined and
disqualified.
There is no need for it to limit.


What if they exceeded the limit to avoid an accident due to no fault of
their own?


Why would they need to do that?
Its a common argument that people need to speed to avoid accidents but
there is never a convincing case given.
Just how many people need to outrun falling buildings or crashing aircraft?
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On 26/11/2012 23:42, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

Considering an old woman got done for speeding while being scared of a
lorry tailgating her, yes they probably would.


Its stupid to speed up if you are being tailgated.

You tailgate me and I will slow down.
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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:28:41 -0000, "Lieutenant Scott"
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I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the trolleys.


If you can find one.
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Is a car park private[1] land? i.e. could someone in theory slap dummy
plates on as soon as they're off the road and then put the real plates
back on before leaving again, and still remain within the law?

[1] I think supermarket ones have been legally shown not to be (although
quite why, I'm not sure). But I don't know if that extends to all car
parks...


IANAL but I think the road traffic acts apply to land "where the public
has access".


Neither am I:-)

The *public* does not have access to a bridleway or footpath when in
control of a vehicle unless given permission by the landowner.

There is a grey area regarding mobility scooters.

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:24:39 -0000, "Lieutenant Scott"
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If I'm in a foul mood and I forget my £1 coin, I go back to the car, grab a
huge pile of coppers, and go and change them in the supermarket.


Reminds me of my last attempt to shop at Morrisons. I had only cards
and no cash at all so went into the shop to ask how I could get a
trolley. They suggested buying something with a card and getting
cashback, then buying something with the cash to get the change and
then going to get the trolley to do the rest of my shop.

Needless to say I've never been back there.
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Tim Lamb wrote:
In message ,
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I think faulty vehicle lighting must be the most common, significant
safety-related fault on vehicles.

Of course - anyone can have a bulb fail at any time.

But it shouldn't be beyond the wit of ANPR cameras to spot faulty
lights, and auto-generate an email or letter to the registered
keeper. Add the faulty-lights vehicle plate to a database, and if it
appears
again with the same fault after - say - 2 weeks have elapsed since
the first letter - send them a fine in the post.

Harsh - but it would make a greater contribution to safety than
fines for slightly exceeding the speed limit.


AOL

There is also my patent litter deterrent... passenger of following car
posts message to data store. 3 messages at different times from
different phones raises an automated fine to the registered owner.


And SIM cards are so cheap these days...........


Umm.. I suppose there will always be a way around any simple protective
rule. I was trying to discriminate between the serial litterer and the
apprentice who has not yet had his ******** hammered while avoiding
malicious reporting.

I guess adding in the location data would overcomplicate any reliable
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:04:04 +0000, Mark wrote:

I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the
trolleys.


If you can find one.


I'm trying to think of a grocery supermarket that requires trolley rent
around here and I'm failing. Does B&Q come under "supermarket"?

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On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:18:38 +0000, Andy Champ wrote:

I suspect it's the hard cut off, he has a pool of brightness, that
reduces his night vision, and there is nothing beyond the cut off.
Normal halogen headlights have some spill that illuminate, to some
extent, beyound the cut off.


I had HID lights on my last car. Hated them for that reason.


B-) Glad that my theory has made correct assumptions. Is it just me or
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Considering an old woman got done for speeding while being scared of a
lorry tailgating her, yes they probably would.


Its stupid to speed up if you are being tailgated.

You tailgate me and I will slow down.


That's twice this year I've agreed with Dennis.

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I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the
trolleys.


If you can find one.


I'm trying to think of a grocery supermarket that requires trolley rent
around here and I'm failing.


Lots round here.

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Unfortunately, many
modern headlamp units are so awkwardly located that bulb replacement
can only be carried out by feel. In these cases, it is perfectly
possible to get the bulb in place such that at least one of the
locating tangs is not in its slot.


It's possible to cross thread a nut too.



Your point being ? Many people *do* cross-thread nuts, just like many
people mis-fit headlight bulbs ...


And leave it like that?


Because the retaining clip is only made of a thin gauge spring steel
wire, it is vanishingly easy to force it back into its clip, thus
holding the bulb in its seat at an angle. The result of this is a
beam pointing either at the ditch, or the moon


And you'd leave it like that till the next MOT?


No, *I* wouldn't, because I know how to fit them correctly. Sadly, I
appear to be in a minority ...


The vast majority of vehicles I see with headlights that 'dazzle' ain't
just one headlight, but both. So my opinion is it's down to poor headlight
design and or setting - not an owner changing a bulb incorrectly.

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I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the trolleys.


If you can find one.


you don't "rent" the trolley - you put down a deposit and get it back
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I suspect it's the hard cut off, he has a pool of brightness, that
reduces his night vision, and there is nothing beyond the cut off.
Normal halogen headlights have some spill that illuminate, to some
extent, beyound the cut off.


I had HID lights on my last car. Hated them for that reason.


B-) Glad that my theory has made correct assumptions. Is it just me or
is the number of vehicles with HID lights dropping?


Whether there is a gradual reduction of the beam at its limits isn't down
to halogen or HID, etc. It's design of the optics. Those that have a sharp
cutoff have a french flag somewhere. Sometimes in the bulb itself,
sometimes outside it.

I believe some vehicles now have LED headlights. But I doubt again that
will make any intrinsic different to the 'dazzle' - that is more down to
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Your point being ? Many people *do* cross-thread nuts, just like many
people mis-fit headlight bulbs ...


And leave it like that?


Because the retaining clip is only made of a thin gauge spring steel
wire, it is vanishingly easy to force it back into its clip, thus
holding the bulb in its seat at an angle. The result of this is a
beam pointing either at the ditch, or the moon

And you'd leave it like that till the next MOT?


No, *I* wouldn't, because I know how to fit them correctly. Sadly, I
appear to be in a minority ...


The vast majority of vehicles I see with headlights that 'dazzle' ain't
just one headlight, but both. So my opinion is it's down to poor headlight
design and or setting - not an owner changing a bulb incorrectly.


Or the driver not having a clue what that small Blue indicator light is ...
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:04:04 +0000, Mark wrote:

I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the
trolleys.


If you can find one.


I'm trying to think of a grocery supermarket that requires trolley rent
around here and I'm failing. Does B&Q come under "supermarket"?


Tesco, Sainsburys, and Morrisons all use 'trolley rent'.
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On Sunday, November 25, 2012 3:33:25 PM UTC, jgharston wrote:
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Whilst I agree with your rant, it can also be medical issues that make


one more sensitive to being dazzled by oncoming headlamps. Certainly




This sounds really ridiculous as I type it, but I've taken to driving

in

the dark wearing my prescription sunglasses. Even then I flick my

eyes from side to side to avoid the same piece of retina going to

sleep.



It could be because I only passed my test two years ago, but every

time I fill up with petrol when it's dark I walk around the car and

check

all the lights. I passed my test two years and one week ago, so I'm

no longer a probationary driver, so maybe I'll start getting slack and

lazy now.



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On Monday, November 26, 2012 5:48:07 PM UTC, wrote:
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In message , Andrew Gabriel


writes


In many cars nowadays, the headlamps are not user replaceable


because you have to remove other parts of the engine to get to


them. That maybe why so many cars now drive with a headlamp out.




I've been wondering whether the modern fetish for flashing lights to


say "Come On", "Thanks" and so on isn't causing lamp failures. I


thought that when you apply volts to a cold filament, there is a


sudden rush of amps.


I thought they'd made a law against that sort of thing, isn't it called Ohms law ;-)





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My son got a ticket sent to him as a result of one of those. He entered
the car park by one entrance, and left by another.


There's the problem. Had he left by an *exit* he would have been OK :-)


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My son got a ticket sent to him as a result of one of those. He entered


the car park by one entrance, and left by another.




There's the problem. Had he left by an *exit* he would have been OK :-)


I have the same approach with my students, when I see them strugging to pull the door open I say if you read the instructions on the door which says "push" it'll be easier to open :-) hours of fun


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The vast majority of vehicles I see with headlights that 'dazzle' ain't
just one headlight, but both. So my opinion is it's down to poor
headlight design and or setting - not an owner changing a bulb
incorrectly.


Or the driver not having a clue what that small Blue indicator light is


Pretty rare. I'm talking about dip beam dazzle.

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On Nov 27, 11:14*am, whisky-dave wrote:
On Monday, November 26, 2012 5:48:07 PM UTC, wrote:
Bill wrote:


In message , Andrew Gabriel


writes


In many cars nowadays, the headlamps are not user replaceable


because you have to remove other parts of the engine to get to


them. That maybe why so many cars now drive with a headlamp out.


I've been wondering whether the modern fetish for flashing lights to


say "Come On", "Thanks" and so on isn't causing lamp failures. I


thought that when you apply volts to a cold filament, there is a


sudden rush of amps.


I *thought they'd made a law against that sort of thing, isn't it called Ohms law ;-)


Which bit of ohm's law do you think is being broken?

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On Monday, November 26, 2012 5:48:07 PM UTC, wrote:
Bill wrote:
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In many cars nowadays, the headlamps are not user replaceable
because you have to remove other parts of the engine to get to
them. That maybe why so many cars now drive with a headlamp out.
I've been wondering whether the modern fetish for flashing lights to
say "Come On", "Thanks" and so on isn't causing lamp failures. I
thought that when you apply volts to a cold filament, there is a
sudden rush of amps.

I thought they'd made a law against that sort of thing, isn't it called Ohms law ;-)


Which bit of ohm's law do you think is being broken?

He doesn't seem to be aware that the resistance of a lamp filament
increases greatly as its temperature rises from ambient to operating
temperature.

You and I both know that this is what generates the switch on surge.

HID lamps have their own switch-on problems, of course.
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On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 07:53:22 -0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 26/11/2012 23:42, Lieutenant Scott wrote:

Considering an old woman got done for speeding while being scared of a
lorry tailgating her, yes they probably would.


Its stupid to speed up if you are being tailgated.

You tailgate me and I will slow down.


And I would just ignore the tailgater, or allow him to pass.

But if you're a frail old woman and get frightened, you can't think logically.

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I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the trolleys.


If you can find one.


you don't "rent" the trolley - you put down a deposit and get it back
afterwards.


Pedant!

You buy it, then resell it.

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I'll stick to supermarkets that don't require you to rent the trolleys.


If you can find one.


I have a choice of 4 supermarkets. Two don't have this trolley rental nonsense.

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On Tue, 27 Nov 2012 09:07:47 -0000, Mark wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:24:39 -0000, "Lieutenant Scott"
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If I'm in a foul mood and I forget my £1 coin, I go back to the car, grab a
huge pile of coppers, and go and change them in the supermarket.


Reminds me of my last attempt to shop at Morrisons. I had only cards
and no cash at all so went into the shop to ask how I could get a
trolley. They suggested buying something with a card and getting
cashback, then buying something with the cash to get the change and
then going to get the trolley to do the rest of my shop.

Needless to say I've never been back there.


I would have lost my temper with someone who suggested such a longwinded method.

Couldn't they just give you a quid off your card? If it was a debit card it's just a cash withdrawal. If it was a credit card they might have wanted to charge you a small fee for the bank.

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On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 02:02:59 -0000, Arfa Daily
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Yes, I know I've had a bitch on here before about DIY headlight
repairs,
but
I swear it's getting worse year on year. Since the evenings have got
dark
again, I've been blinded from the front and dazzled from the rear so
many
times that I've lost count. This is either because headlight bulbs have
been
fitted incorrectly, or the cretins behind the wheel don't know what the
blue
light on the dash means ...

It means the blue xenons are on.

On top of this, on more than one occasion, I've almost run into the
back
of
a motorbike that's turned out to be a car with the offside tail light
out.

You must have pretty poor eyesight, did the car not have reflectors?
Were
your headlights not on?

Today, I had to drive to another town some thirty miles away, and for
most
of the time it was more or less foggy. At least one in three cars was
not
showing any lights. I think I saw about two that were actually using
their
rear fog lights. Funny how drivers always manage to find the tiresome
things
on a dark wet night when they are guaranteed to dazzle you, but never
have
them on when it's full daylight and thick fog !

I agree with yo on the lights, but not the fog lights. Fog lights look
like brakes, I never use them. If you're following someone in the fog
and
they brake, you might not notice.

Anyway, on the return trip, as I passed the main county police
headquarters,
a law car pulled out behind me. It had one headlight pointing into the
ditch, and the other up into my rearview mirror. If it's now reached
the
point where even the coppers can't keep their own vehicles legal, we
might
as well all give up ...

I would have pulled him over for a laugh.

DIY headlight bulb replacement should be banned. You ought to have to
take
your car to approved garages where there is someone trained and
certified
to
change the wretched things correctly :-(

How can you replace a bulb wrong, they have ****ing notches!


Oh dear ...


Whatever you're oh dearing about, be more specific.

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I was, quite obviously, responding to your last line. Clearly, you have
either not been properly following the thread, or not understanding it.
Whilst it's true that they do have ****ing notches, they never-the-less can
be fitted wrongly, as many on here have already attested to ...

Arfa


And what I was quite clearly stating was that I couldn't fit it wrong if I tried. There must be some extremely stupid people about. It's almost as difficult as putting a mains plug in upside down, it just doesn't fit!!

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My son got a ticket sent to him as a result of one of those. He entered


the car park by one entrance, and left by another.


There's the problem. Had he left by an *exit* he would have been OK :-)


I have the same approach with my students, when I see them strugging to pull the door open I say if you read the instructions on the door which says "push" it'll be easier to open :-) hours of fun

You'll find them in difficulties when faced with a lift then. ;-)

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