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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Owain" wrote in message ... Alan Holmes wrote: I hate my teeth and would willingly have the whole lot pulled but I can't afford dentures. Do not even consider it, even when yu can afford dentures. I've recently lost a nuber of teeth and I miss them, every time I see someone with proper teeth it makes me wish I still had all of mine. I think I have that psychological disorder which, in extreme cases, makes people want to cut their limbs off. I just hate my teeth. If you lose them all you will wish it hadn't happened! How the hell did teeth get into cocoa? Probably overindulgence in sweet sticky cocoa buggered the teeth in the first place :-( In my case, overindulgence in all things sweet! And the stupidity of dentists many years ago! Alan Owain |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:36:58 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall Because the NHS is totally and utterly worthless, tell that to someone who has long term illness or isn't affluent. Wrong thinking. The UK NHS is the third largest employer in the world after the Chinese army and the Indian railways. This inevitably leads to colossal waste and has done since the inception of it. I am not saying that there should not be a means of obtaining medical care for people unable to pay themselves. In a civilised society, that should be there but via a voucher system that people can spend on healthcare where they choose to do so. The mistake is that the government is involved in the *delivery* of it. That isn't necessary. Where exactly do you think our NICS go? Where it has always gone, into the bottomless pocket of the exchequer, where it is used for a number of things unrelated to either the health service of pensions. If, when the whole things started, the money had been invested for the use for which it was intended there would not be the problems which exist today. Where do you think they go? Alan -- June Hughes |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"The Reid" wrote in message ... Following up to June Hughes Instead of wasting your time blathering about it here, why not do something positive? Get off your backside and on your bike and start doing something about it instead of giving earache to those who are unable to alter things. you have a point, its too hot for political cobblers, having spent the morning shoveling muck in the heat and with the prospect of chiseling up floor tiles pm lets discuss something nice.........thinks... ............did I mention the barmaid at the "Pigs Nose" by any chance? No, what about the barmaid at the "Pigs Nose"? Alan -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Mary Fisher writes "The Reid" wrote in message . .. Following up to June Hughes Instead of wasting your time blathering about it here, why not do something positive? Get off your backside and on your bike and start doing something about it instead of giving earache to those who are unable to alter things. you have a point, its too hot for political cobblers, having spent the morning shoveling muck in the heat and with the prospect of chiseling up floor tiles pm lets discuss something nice.........thinks... ............did I mention the barmaid at the "Pigs Nose" by any chance? You're not STILL banging on about her? If things don't change they'll stay as they are :-) Nothing for it Mary - time to get your tits out Not again! Alan -- geoff |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:10:32 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): In message , Andy Hall writes It is rather sad that there are still people around with the misconception that it is. Clearly the NHS marketing machine has done a good job. Instead of wasting your time blathering about it here, why not do something positive? Get off your backside and on your bike and start doing something about it instead of giving earache to those who are unable to alter things. Nobody requires you to read the articles that I write. I'm seriously considering adding you to my killfile, the problem is that if someone does respond to your posts I still have to read them! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "The Reid" wrote in message ... Following up to Mary Fisher My cancer was treated successfully (no-one can claim a cure with authority and a guarantee), several years ago. I've survived. A Band-Aid never went anywhere near me. I doubt that a Band-Aid will go anywhere near Spouse during his cancer treatment. best wishes to him, Mary. Thanks, we have full confidence in the good old NHS :-) I've usually been treated well by the NHS, except for the local outpatients, where there always book in 150 patients at the same time. I managed to get over that by saying I had another appointment in half an hour, I was usually seen straight away! Alan Mary |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:35:54 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:22:21 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... Until the mentality moves away from using band Aids to cure cancer, there is no point in spending the effort on it. It's a strange mentality which thinks there's a cure for cancer. My cancer was treated successfully (no-one can claim a cure with authority and a guarantee), several years ago. I've survived. A Band-Aid never went anywhere near me. I doubt that a Band-Aid will go anywhere near Spouse during his cancer treatment. You've shown that there's something else you don't know about. Mary, you know full well that the statement was a figurative one to emphasise a point, So I'm supposed to know whether what you say is fact and what is figurative? Come on Mary, I know that you know better than that. I really don't believe for one moment that you had any difficulty in telling the difference. Well I did! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:21:46 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall I'll give you four simple examples. of exceptional cases. Are you stupid or just pretending? Ah, cant even keep it civil. Actually I was quite restrained in the context of your last remark. A sure sign of those who cannot support their position with argument and resort to stock usenet retorts. Not really. You asked for examples. You were given four which can easily be substantiated as being major health issues. Have you not noticed that he cannot read any more of your articles. That does make you look stupid. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:30:55 +0100, Clive George wrote (in article ): "William Black" wrote in message ... "Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "Clive George" wrote in message ... Type 2s may have to pay a prescription charge, and for their other meds. Annual prepayment would seem to cover that. Most Type 2s are old enough to have zero cost for prescriptions. Type 2s don't pay anyway, no diabetic does in the UK... So, Andy, about those blood glucose testing strips then? cheers, clive Well you might ask. It should be possible for a T2 to test about 6-8 times a day in order to correctly control BG levels with diet and exercise or the possible addition of drug therapy. This implies around 200 strips a month. At 50p a go, this is a significant sum. Hence they are rationed or unavailable on prescription, IME. My wife gets them on prescription! Try getting hold of facts before you write. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:36:47 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... It should be possible for a T2 to test about 6-8 times a day in order to correctly control BG levels with diet and exercise or the possible addition of drug therapy. You don't need as many as that. I know what is needed. You have diabeties? Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 12:29:13 +0100, Clive George wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... However, I do not and will not crucify myself to the point that life isn't worth living. I have learned what I can do and what I can't, but it does involve a frequent testing regime in order to watch and record what is happening. Of course there is the little problem that a large amount of what the test tells you what you should have done, not what you should do next. That depends on when you test. Generally I do so preprandially, and at 1 and 2 hours post-prandially, unless I suspect that food combinations might alter the peak of BG value - for example through GL and fat content. I have just looked through my very good Oxford dictionary, but nowhere can I find prandially! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"raden" wrote in message ... In message , Derek ^ writes With reference to Robert Townshends book "Up the Organisation" AAMOF ctually referring to the joint use public purchasing schemes in the US, but the NHS is certainly no better. " For all that They actually *do* pay more for a pencil than you do at the 5 & 10 cents store". NB from memeory. Shouldn't that be "HB" ? Depends upon how thickyou want the result to be! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:01:04 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall This inevitably leads to colossal waste and has done since the inception of it. heard of economies of scale? There is no "inevitable" correlation between size and efficiency. The only aspect where an economy of scale is interesting would be the bulk purchasing power for drugs etc. Now, thinks, would that be useful to the NHS? There is only one useful thing that could be done to the NHS, and that is to shut it down. No it does not want shutting down just sack all the overlords, bring back Matron! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Mary Fisher" wrote in message t... "The Reid" wrote in message ... Following up to Andy Hall Because the NHS is totally and utterly worthless, tell that to someone who has long term illness or isn't affluent. Indeed. I'm still here - tough! - because of the NHS. That sounds like a good reasoon to shut it down!(:-) Alan Mary |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:01:04 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall can you prove its a "total nonsense"? I don't need to prove it. you need to prove it, not just assert your political view. I don't *need* to do anything. It isn't a political view - simply an observation of a majorly broken organisation that really requires euthanasia. Once one has an open mind that leaves on one side the concept that the state needs to operate a megalith to deliver healthcare, then many more things become possible. Sadly the reality is that most people are unable to think outside the box. Why not just get on and do something about it if you feel so strongly, instead of winding up everyone here? Perhaps then, we will end up with a better NHS and you will be a hero of the people. You don't really think he is likely to do something which will improve the situation, do you? Alan -- June Hughes |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 14:00:15 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): In message , Andy Hall writes On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:12:18 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): Why not just get on and do something about it if you feel so strongly, instead of winding up everyone here? Perhaps then, we will end up with a better NHS and you will be a hero of the people. If I were to do it, we wouldn't have an NHS. Unfortunately, contrary to their own best interests, most people seem wedded to the idea that this is the only way to deliver healthcare in a civilised society and are willing to accept third rate service because they think it's free. That is a load of old bull****, as I suspect you know. How would you describe it? Do you find what they offer 100% acceptable? No, but it is a bit better than nothing, but a return to the days of long ago would help. You should try to meet Matron, if she would allow you to talk! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... For example, the nonsense that I had from the GP surgery after a comprehensive set of blood tests was a note of "tell patient OK" from the doctor. The alternative would be "make appointment" if there had been an issue. I don't consider that acceptable and so there was a "discussion" with the practice manager after which all the results were faxed to me 5 minutes later. Then I made the appointment with the doctor. He doesn't make notes like that on my test results any longer. You should meet my doctor, he was silly enough to give me his email address, if I have a minor problem I send him a message and I get an answer back very quickly! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 09:01:32 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall I am quite sure that I could do a much better job than the government does. It wouldn't be that difficult..... so you think. All that is required is a simple administration to organise and distribute funding in the form of vouchers for patients to spend on healthcare with a provider of their choice. And when they run out of vouchers? Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:10:32 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): Nobody requires you to read the articles that I write. Articles! There's posh :-) I'm seriously considering adding you to my killfile, the problem is that if someone does respond to your posts I still have to read them! It's surprising how few you'll have to read, Alan. Mary Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
Following up to Alan Holmes
did I mention the barmaid at the "Pigs Nose" by any chance? No, what about the barmaid at the "Pigs Nose"? oh, rather comely. -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
Following up to Alan Holmes
I have just looked through my very good Oxford dictionary, but nowhere can I find prandially! I have "preprandial preprandial done or taken before dinner" surely a "lly" on the end is OK? -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Following up to Alan Holmes
All that is required is a simple administration to organise and distribute funding in the form of vouchers for patients to spend on healthcare with a provider of their choice. And when they run out of vouchers? well, you see how it works is you go to the doctors and they give you a voucher for a test, when the results come you get a voucher for the recommended treatment, or do you need a voucher to see the doctor in the firstplace? Or do people just all get the same number of vouchers and its bad luck if you need more? Or perhaps you get double vouchers on mondays when you buy spring water in Tescos? -- Mike Reid Walk-eat-photos UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" -- you can email us@ this site Walk-eat-photos Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" -- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"The Reid" wrote in message ... Following up to Alan Holmes I have just looked through my very good Oxford dictionary, but nowhere can I find prandially! I have "preprandial preprandial done or taken before dinner" surely a "lly" on the end is OK? That would make it "prandiallly" |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Ophelia" wrote in message .. . raden wrote: As for my knee operation last year, in BUPA Bushey it was when would you like to come in? Two weeks? Fine It would have been more than 4 months just to see the specialist here at Watford Within the last couple of years I have had two knee replacements and both eyes operated on for cataract. Without Bupa I am sure I would be blind and in a wheelchair. The waiting time up here was about a year. As it is, I am back at work and enjoying life. I've had all of that, and in a very short time, and that was with the NHS. In Windsor. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:01:04 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall these are the problems of lack of commitment to the NHS, for years we have wanted low taxes and more low taxes, something has to give. It isn't lack of commitment. All that has happened is the throwing of good money after bad. nonsense. Thatcher would probably have loved to get rid of it. It really doesn't matter. There is no point is raiding the museum and looking at the legacy of the past. Possibly for a fleeting moment in the 1940s before the NHS was set up and then immediately bailed out of financial collapse by the Americans, it might have seemed like a good idea. The americans would never have been interested in bailing out anything to do with this country. You obviously live in cloud cuckoo land. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 21:06:37 +0100, raden wrote (in article ): In message , Mary Fisher writes - not being nickel and dimed over selection of therapies and drugs I've had Rolls Royce treatment, no parsimony. All my experience has been in NHS. So how do you know when you have nothing to compare with Nothing is perfect, I know that when Spouse had private treatment on the whole it was superb but there were exceptions which spoilt the lot. Exceptions are due to individuals, not systems. At the point that the NHS would care to deliver most or even any of these, I might look again, but it doesn't and worse yet, those involved in it don't see a problem. Don't worry, the NHS doesn't need you. That would be fine if I didn't have to pay through the nose to fund it. It's not an attitude which is going to help improve things, is it ? Exactly. The answer is always to throw more good money after bad, never to carry out the major surgery that is actually required. Until that culture and pretence ends, I don't think that there will be an improvement and we as a nation will continue paying through the nose for a third world service. Oh don't be silly! I would say that I've had better service in the "third world" I have definitely had better care in the 3rd world. Then, for goodness sake, move there and leave us alone. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes Of course, until people in the UK realise that they are being suckered by the 4th of the three big lies, it won't change. Get yourself a couple of sandwich boards and parade up and down Oxford Street spreading the word. That may achieve something. Of course, it is easier just to sit on your backside at your computer and spout on Usenet but you could be far more effective than that, couldn't you? Aw, come on June, you don't really expect him to do something useful like that, do you? Alan -- June Hughes |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Derek ^" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:58:17 +0100, Andy Hall wrote: Excellent post, can't top that. So here follows an anecdote, it refers to the Leeds General Infirmary Ca. 2,000. But did you HAVE to post the whole of that idiots article, why the hell didn't you snip most of it? Took my late mum into out patients for a 2pm appointment. We arrived at 1-45 to be early, noticed the waiting room was full with about 20 patients waiting. Went up to the desk and announced ourselves, "You're in the wrong clinic was the reply. ?? This is the right room I protested! "Yebbut this is *this mornings* clinic". This has happened here in Slough. After half an hour or so I discerned a distinct lack of any medical activity. Apparently the doctor had disappeared at around 11-45 am, and nobody could find him. at 2-40 a big Irishman stood up and shouted "Well when is he coming then, I've been here since half past eight and I've got to pick my daughter up at school in 30 minutes", he stormed out. The next time I went to that clinic I told them I had another appoointment in a short while, and was seen very quickly. I have a horrid feeling I've already said this in another post, fortunately the clinic has now changed it's method of working. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Derek ^" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:36:00 +0100, June Hughes wrote: In message , Andy Hall writes On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:31:32 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): Oh, June, that's not fair! I don't think you realise that this chap isn't lazing about at home at his pc, he's jetting all round the world with his laptop, being very busy. Probably solving other, even worse, problems! It would be hard to find one worse than the NHS, Mary. Snip almost three screens of typing. There is a norm on Usenet of around one screen, so that people do not have to scroll down. Where's it say that then ? Well I can't say where it is said, but it does show a little consideration for others who may want to find the respponce to the post. Alan DG |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:36:00 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): In message , Andy Hall writes On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:31:32 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): Oh, June, that's not fair! I don't think you realise that this chap isn't lazing about at home at his pc, he's jetting all round the world with his laptop, being very busy. Probably solving other, even worse, problems! It would be hard to find one worse than the NHS, Mary. Snip almost three screens of typing. There is a norm on Usenet of around one screen, so that people do not have to scroll down. No there isn't. All together now, 'Oh yes there is'! It must be pantomime time! Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:09:12 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): Did you expect everyone to read the whole thing? This is a news medium. Do you imagine that people writing articles in newspapers expect every reader to read every article? No, which is why many of us do not bother to read your articles! I somehow doubt it, so why would you assume a different situation in Usenet? Like I said, I just get feed up of trying to find some sense in your postings so I do not biother to read more than the first few lines. If you did, you are living in cloud-cuckoo land. I didn't, but put it to you that you might be for suggesting the idea. No, as I've said in another article, it is you who is not living in the real world. Alan |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Steve Firth" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:28:25 +0100, June Hughes wrote: May I remind you that this is a food and drink group. No it's not, it's a DIY newsgroup. Are you telling me I've been crossposting this? OT threads are acceptable for so long and then they are discarded. Not possible. I am now going to kill this thread, which I should have done long since. Whether or not anyone else does so is up to them. Indeed,the contents of your killfile are your concern. Quite why so many people think that others give a monkey's is a matter for bemusement. |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:44:25 +0100, Clive George wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... Because the NHS is totally and utterly worthless, I buy almost all of my medical care (except primary doctor) and all of my dental care privately either through insurance or out of pocket. It seems quite good from my POV - and I speak as a regular user of their services. cheers, clive I am afraid that I have a very high level of expectation of a service for which I pay through the nose. The NHS is nowhere close to being able to deliver what I consider to be a reasonable level of service. Then go away and live somewhere you can get the level of service you are expecting. Alan |
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"Owain" wrote in message ... Mary Fisher wrote: At the point where it didn't even figure in the stats and there was no government involvement whatsoever. So you want the smallest possible employer and no government. A witch doctor sounds likely. Under the doctrine of patient choice, wasting money, and pandering to superstitionists, I daresay that'll be offered by the NHS quite soon now. They already offer homeopathy. Good, I could do with a decent witch doctor right now! Alan Owain |
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... I have a horrid feeling I've already said this in another post, fortunately the clinic has now changed it's method of working. Last Thursday we were seen on time at St James' in Leeds. We spent an hour with the surgeon, he explained the condition, the procedure, the alternatives and gave us a choice of dates for Spouse's major cancer surgery, it's all been very efficient - as well as human and supportive. We have full confidence that it will continue thus. In January I had elective toe surgery in Harrogate, exactly the same conditions applied. In March I had gynaecological surgery at St James, at my request, at my convenience and am now taking medication which apparently costs £1,000 p/a. We both also have daily doses of other medication, mostly for pain but also because they've been recommended by the GP. All this is free at the point of delivery ... Spouse paid National Insurance in his working life and everyone pays taxes, working or not, but there is no pain to our pocket for any of these treatments. We have no complaints at all. Mary Alan |
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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message ... "June Hughes" wrote in message ... In message , Andy Hall writes Of course, until people in the UK realise that they are being suckered by the 4th of the three big lies, it won't change. Get yourself a couple of sandwich boards and parade up and down Oxford Street spreading the word. That may achieve something. Of course, it is easier just to sit on your backside at your computer and spout on Usenet but you could be far more effective than that, couldn't you? Aw, come on June, you don't really expect him to do something useful like that, do you? Too busy saving the world, apparently. Alan -- June Hughes |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
On 2006-08-01 15:40:50 +0100, "Alan Holmes" said:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:10:32 +0100, June Hughes wrote (in article ): In message , Andy Hall writes It is rather sad that there are still people around with the misconception that it is. Clearly the NHS marketing machine has done a good job. Instead of wasting your time blathering about it here, why not do something positive? Get off your backside and on your bike and start doing something about it instead of giving earache to those who are unable to alter things. Nobody requires you to read the articles that I write. I'm seriously considering adding you to my killfile, the problem is that if someone does respond to your posts I still have to read them! Alan Be my guest. I really don't care |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
On 2006-08-01 15:44:46 +0100, "Alan Holmes" said:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 20:35:54 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:22:21 +0100, Mary Fisher wrote (in article ): "Andy Hall" wrote in message ... Until the mentality moves away from using band Aids to cure cancer, there is no point in spending the effort on it. It's a strange mentality which thinks there's a cure for cancer. My cancer was treated successfully (no-one can claim a cure with authority and a guarantee), several years ago. I've survived. A Band-Aid never went anywhere near me. I doubt that a Band-Aid will go anywhere near Spouse during his cancer treatment. You've shown that there's something else you don't know about. Mary, you know full well that the statement was a figurative one to emphasise a point, So I'm supposed to know whether what you say is fact and what is figurative? Come on Mary, I know that you know better than that. I really don't believe for one moment that you had any difficulty in telling the difference. Well I did! Alan Nobody else seems to have had any difficulty..... If you can't figure out that the purpose of a Band Aid is in the treatment of the mildest of ailments then it's rather difficult to know what to suggest. Did you need it to be spelled out? |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
On 2006-08-01 15:47:30 +0100, "Alan Holmes" said:
"Andy Hall" wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 09:21:46 +0100, The Reid wrote (in article ): Following up to Andy Hall I'll give you four simple examples. of exceptional cases. Are you stupid or just pretending? Ah, cant even keep it civil. Actually I was quite restrained in the context of your last remark. A sure sign of those who cannot support their position with argument and resort to stock usenet retorts. Not really. You asked for examples. You were given four which can easily be substantiated as being major health issues. Have you not noticed that he cannot read any more of your articles. That does make you look stupid. Alan Coming from somebody who doesn't understand the purpose of a Band Aid, that is a little surprising. |
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Cocoa [How have the mighty fallen? OT.]
On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 21:12:09 +0100, Owain
wrote: Alan Holmes wrote: All that is required is a simple administration to organise and distribute funding in the form of vouchers for patients to spend on healthcare with a provider of their choice. And when they run out of vouchers? Then they print some more vouchers, but in the small print put a valid-from and an expiry date to reduce the number of redemptions to an acceptable level. "No purchase necessary." -- Frank Erskine |
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