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That's a very sobering comment, and better than
anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. Tell that to the disabled veteran in orlando who had his generator stolen during a hurricane a few years ago. He needed it to power the equipment that helped keep him alive. it was sitting outside, under cover and was running when someone stole it. Letting others run cords has nothing to do with being Christian, if it can't handle the extra load. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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If it was ignition system, might have been a bad ignition
module, or ignition coil. Either those should be replacable. Likely doesn't really need the entire motor. There's a few neighbors I'll offer help. My general experiences with helping neighbors, havn't been all that good. I know of at least two people who have had generators stolen. I'm not eager to be on that list. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... I would get a generator and a manual transfer panel. Oh, I did. The reason was that I didn't trust the automatic transfer and generator setups that were affordable by me. My neighbor has an automatic setup powered by a Kohler engine (usually considered a good brand) that only worked the first season it was installed. It probably turned on less than 8 times that first year. Then something in the ignition system failed and it could only try to start. Her quoted repair price was around $1800 from a couple businesses that install and maintain these types of systems. $1800 seems steep to me to replace a 7hp motor. Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. Eric |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
... That's a very sobering comment, and better than anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. Then why do you consistently post to alt.hvac????? Jus wunnerin.... -- EA -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. Tell that to the disabled veteran in orlando who had his generator stolen during a hurricane a few years ago. He needed it to power the equipment that helped keep him alive. it was sitting outside, under cover and was running when someone stole it. Letting others run cords has nothing to do with being Christian, if it can't handle the extra load. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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In article ,
says... wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:12:26 -0500, wrote: "Stormin Mormon" writes: I do have a gasoline generator, which helped me through the four day cut, in 2003. Consider your needs. And consider if natural gas is dependable, in your area. Might want propane, or diesel unit. The only time natural gas fails, there's usually just a big crater left behind. Unless you're using LP, natural gas is way at the top of the reliability list. Consider the personal aspects. Do you want to stand out like a lighthouse in a dark harbor? Do you want your neighbors to demand to run power cords to thier houses, and you can be Angst Power and Light? You know what? Most people get a good feeling from helping other people. I thought you did too. In this last storm I was on both the receiving and giving end. I think we all came out ahead. I would get a generator and a manual transfer panel. Oh, I did. The reason was that I didn't trust the automatic transfer and generator setups that were affordable by me. My neighbor has an automatic setup powered by a Kohler engine (usually considered a good brand) that only worked the first season it was installed. It probably turned on less than 8 times that first year. Then something in the ignition system failed and it could only try to start. Her quoted repair price was around $1800 from a couple businesses that install and maintain these types of systems. $1800 seems steep to me to replace a 7hp motor. Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. Tell that to the disabled veteran in orlando who had his generator stolen during a hurricane a few years ago. He needed it to power the equipment that helped keep him alive. it was sitting outside, under cover and was running when someone stole it. Letting others run cords has nothing to do with being Christian, if it can't handle the extra load. Stealing a Generac is rather pointless and not particularly easy considering that it's bolted to a concrete slab and has to be plumbed into a natural gas line in order to operate. |
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In article , cayoung61
says... That's a very sobering comment, and better than anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. Hey, Stormin, do you keep the requisite year's worth of food on hand? Aren't you afraid that your neighbors will find out and steal it? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. Tell that to the disabled veteran in orlando who had his generator stolen during a hurricane a few years ago. He needed it to power the equipment that helped keep him alive. it was sitting outside, under cover and was running when someone stole it. Letting others run cords has nothing to do with being Christian, if it can't handle the extra load. |
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I've filtered most of the people who are impolite. On my
computer, that group is nearly dead. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Existential Angst" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... That's a very sobering comment, and better than anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. Then why do you consistently post to alt.hvac????? Jus wunnerin.... -- EA |
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Yes, I'm concerned. Which is why I don't give out such
information. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "J. Clarke" wrote in message in.local... In article , cayoung61 says... That's a very sobering comment, and better than anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. Hey, Stormin, do you keep the requisite year's worth of food on hand? Aren't you afraid that your neighbors will find out and steal it? |
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"J. Clarke" wrote: Stealing a Generac is rather pointless and not particularly easy considering that it's bolted to a concrete slab and has to be plumbed into a natural gas line in order to operate. YAWN... http://www.generac.com/Portables/ -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Nov 13, 9:19*pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 17:12:26 -0500, wrote: "Stormin Mormon" writes: I do have a gasoline generator, which helped me through the four day cut, in 2003. Consider your needs. And consider if natural gas is dependable, in your area. Might want propane, or diesel unit. The only time natural gas fails, there's usually just a big crater left behind. *Unless you're using LP, natural gas is way at the top of the reliability list. Consider the personal aspects. Do you want to stand out like a lighthouse in a dark harbor? Do you want your neighbors to demand to run power cords to thier houses, and you can be Angst Power and Light? You know what? *Most people get a good feeling from helping other people. *I thought you did too. In this last storm I was on both the receiving and giving end. I think we all came out ahead. * *I would get a generator and a manual transfer panel. Oh, I did. The reason was that I didn't trust the automatic transfer and generator setups that were affordable by me. My neighbor has an automatic setup powered by a Kohler engine (usually considered a good brand) that only worked the first season it was installed. It probably turned on less than 8 times that first year. Then something in the ignition system failed and it could only try to start. Her quoted repair price was around $1800 from a couple businesses that install and maintain these types of systems. $1800 seems steep to me to replace a 7hp motor. * *Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that *standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. * *Tell that to the disabled veteran in orlando who had his generator stolen during a hurricane a few years ago. He needed it to power the equipment that helped keep him alive. *it was sitting outside, under cover and was running when someone stole it. Letting others run cords has nothing to do with being Christian, if it can't handle the extra load. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. |
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On Nov 14, 2:50*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Yes, I'm concerned. Which is why I don't give out such information. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "J. Clarke" wrote in message in.local... In article , cayoung61 says... That's a very sobering comment, and better than anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. Hey, Stormin, do you keep the requisite year's worth of food on hand? Aren't you afraid that your neighbors will find out and steal it? Storming...I will give you a clue. After a few weeks when you aren't starving with the rest of the neighbors they will figure it out. When they are pulling in their belts and you are still walking around nice and chubby they will come look you up...and expect some food. No number of guns will keep them from sharing some of your good fortune. TMT |
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Denis G. wrote:
(...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston |
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"Denis G." wrote: He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. I don't know the man, I saw it on the news a few years ago. I got the impression that he was staying with someone during the hurricane, since a lot of areas were under mandatory evacuations and that the portable generator was brand new. Con men were trying to sell 500 W Chinese generators for $4,000 out of the back of U-haul trucks until the police cracked down on the thieves and sent them back north. Most of the thieves were from NY and NJ. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. |
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On Nov 14, 11:57*pm, Winston wrote:
Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes * down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston It also has a smart system that can prioritize what things should run (like a sump pump). I'm just not sure of the longevity of these types of systems, but I'm sure that they'd be more reliable than something that was cobbled together. |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 04:09:38 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: "Denis G." wrote: He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. I don't know the man, I saw it on the news a few years ago. I got the impression that he was staying with someone during the hurricane, since a lot of areas were under mandatory evacuations and that the portable generator was brand new. Con men were trying to sell 500 W Chinese generators for $4,000 out of the back of U-haul trucks until the police cracked down on the thieves and sent them back north. Most of the thieves were from NY and NJ. They usually are. One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:59 -0800, Winston
wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." Oops! Is it "future" yet? --snip-- Q: Will the system run if there is a power outage? A: The freewatt product is configured for cost savings, energy conservation, and environmental value, but will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored. Your freewatt dealer can provide you with options for keeping heat and power on at your home if there is a grid outage and this is of concern to you. If the future, the freewatt product will be offered in versions that can operate during a grid outage. --snip-- -- The problem with borrowing money from China is that thirty minutes later, you feel broke again. --Steve Bridges as Obama |
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On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:59 -0800, Winston
wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston Wow..Im impressed!! The MCHP unit, produced by the Honda Motor Company, uses an internal combustion engine to produce both heat and electric power. This unit is an incredibly quiet (only 47 dBA at 1 meter) long life small engine-generator that has already been installed in over 50,000 homes in Japan. The engine runs on clean natural gas and can be located in a basement or utility room. This engine produces 1,200 watts of electric power and about 12,000 BTUs per hour of heat for the home. a full 1200 watts!!..Why..thats almost enough to run an electric frying pan or griddle! It may even run 4-5 lightbulbs and a TV set! Cool !!! But Ill stay with my 4000 watt Onan Gunner One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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Denis G. wrote:
On Nov 14, 11:57 pm, wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston It also has a smart system that can prioritize what things should run (like a sump pump). I'm just not sure of the longevity of these types of systems, but I'm sure that they'd be more reliable than something that was cobbled together. The beauty of a different approach is that one could power one's house during a blackout. Freewatt *does* say that they are planning a product that will do that, some time in the future. Just not now. --Winston |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:59 -0800, wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." Oops! Is it "future" yet? Nope. Freewatt is still in 'waving hands mode'. --Winston --Wait for it. |
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On Nov 15, 8:17*am, Winston wrote:
Denis G. wrote: On Nov 14, 11:57 pm, *wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes * *down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston It also has a smart system that can prioritize what things should run (like a sump pump). *I'm just not sure of the longevity of these types of systems, but I'm sure that they'd be more reliable than something that was cobbled together. The beauty of a different approach is that one could power one's house during a blackout. Freewatt *does* say that they are planning a product that will do that, some time in the future. Just not now. --Winston- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My understanding is that the system can automatically give you backup power (of 1200 watts) when the grid goes down. The system disconnects from the grid (outside feed) for safety reasons, but it still supplies you with electrical power for your house during a blackout. I'm not sure why the generator that they offer is so modest, but it seems that it wouldn't be hard to increase the size of the genset. I assume that the economics of providing a long life extremely reliable system is the big hurdle. |
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Denis G. wrote:
(...) My understanding is that the system can automatically give you backup power (of 1200 watts) when the grid goes down. While it is shut off? "(...) but will shut off if the grid goes down(...)" The system disconnects from the grid (outside feed) for safety reasons, but it still supplies you with electrical power for your house during a blackout. That's the opposite of what they say in the FAQ. --Winston |
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On Nov 15, 1:08*pm, Winston wrote:
Denis G. wrote: (...) My understanding is that the system can automatically give you backup power (of 1200 watts) when the grid goes down. While it is shut off? "(...) but will shut off if the grid goes down(...)" The system disconnects from the grid (outside feed) for safety reasons, but it still supplies you with electrical power for your house during a blackout. That's the opposite of what they say in the FAQ. --Winston Hmmm... Ok, I missed that. Maybe the system is configured like that for legal reasons. |
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Denis G. wrote:
On Nov 15, 1:08 pm, wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) My understanding is that the system can automatically give you backup power (of 1200 watts) when the grid goes down. While it is shut off? "(...) but will shut off if the grid goes down(...)" The system disconnects from the grid (outside feed) for safety reasons, but it still supplies you with electrical power for your house during a blackout. That's the opposite of what they say in the FAQ. --Winston Hmmm... Ok, I missed that. Maybe the system is configured like that for legal reasons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grid-tie_inverter A grid-tie inverter like theirs would have to change in order to source it's own reference voltage for 'intentional island' use. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islanding Currently it *needs* the incoming sinewave in order to set it's instantaneous output voltage. It is a design requirement for tying to the grid, not an added feature. --Winston |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:06:00 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:59 -0800, Winston wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston Wow..Im impressed!! The MCHP unit, produced by the Honda Motor Company, uses an internal combustion engine to produce both heat and electric power. This unit is an incredibly quiet (only 47 dBA at 1 meter) long life small engine-generator that has already been installed in over 50,000 homes in Japan. The engine runs on clean natural gas and can be located in a basement or utility room. This engine produces 1,200 watts of electric power and about 12,000 BTUs per hour of heat for the home. a full 1200 watts!!..Why..thats almost enough to run an electric frying pan or griddle! It may even run 4-5 lightbulbs and a TV set! Cool !!! But Ill stay with my 4000 watt Onan Gunner A survivalist with an electric frying pan? What is next, an electric can opener? -- John B. |
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On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 07:53:14 -0800 (PST), "Denis G."
wrote: On Nov 15, 8:17*am, Winston wrote: Denis G. wrote: On Nov 14, 11:57 pm, *wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes * *down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston It also has a smart system that can prioritize what things should run (like a sump pump). *I'm just not sure of the longevity of these types of systems, but I'm sure that they'd be more reliable than something that was cobbled together. The beauty of a different approach is that one could power one's house during a blackout. Freewatt *does* say that they are planning a product that will do that, some time in the future. Just not now. --Winston- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - My understanding is that the system can automatically give you backup power (of 1200 watts) when the grid goes down. The system disconnects from the grid (outside feed) for safety reasons, but it still supplies you with electrical power for your house during a blackout. I'm not sure why the generator that they offer is so modest, but it seems that it wouldn't be hard to increase the size of the genset. I assume that the economics of providing a long life extremely reliable system is the big hurdle. Probably because they are basing the unit on one of their existing gen-sets, likely derated for LPG fuel. And very likely, based on market surveys, that is the size that will have the highest sales. -- John B. |
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On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 07:32:50 +0700, John B.
wrote: On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 05:06:00 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:57:59 -0800, Winston wrote: Denis G. wrote: (...) He might want to look into micro CHP systems like this one: http://www.freewatt.com/micro.asp More expensive, but it's built into the house. Hmmm. "The freewatt product (...) will shut off if the grid goes down and automatically restart once grid power is restored." --Winston Wow..Im impressed!! The MCHP unit, produced by the Honda Motor Company, uses an internal combustion engine to produce both heat and electric power. This unit is an incredibly quiet (only 47 dBA at 1 meter) long life small engine-generator that has already been installed in over 50,000 homes in Japan. The engine runs on clean natural gas and can be located in a basement or utility room. This engine produces 1,200 watts of electric power and about 12,000 BTUs per hour of heat for the home. a full 1200 watts!!..Why..thats almost enough to run an electric frying pan or griddle! It may even run 4-5 lightbulbs and a TV set! Cool !!! But Ill stay with my 4000 watt Onan Gunner A survivalist with an electric frying pan? What is next, an electric can opener? Of course. The gensets are used at ones HOME. If one has the means to utilize existing tools...one would be a fool not to use them. One could not be a successful Leftwinger without realizing that, in contrast to the popular conception supported by newspapers and mothers of Leftwingers, a goodly number of Leftwingers are not only narrow-minded and dull, but also just stupid. Gunner Asch |
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On Nov 14, 12:43*am, "Existential Angst" wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... That's a very sobering comment, and better than anything I could have written. I'm a believer in Christian charity and service. I'm also a believer in not getting trampled, abused, and taken advantage. Then why do you consistently post to alt.hvac????? Jus wunnerin.... -- EA -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message om... * *Stormin Mormon implied from his comments above that standing out in the neighborhood would be a bad thing. That's surprising coming from someone who identifies himself as a Christian. My neighbors are welcome to use my freezer if theirs isn't working. And they can come over and use the shower if they need to. And if they need to sleep and eat here a while that's OK too. * Tell that to the disabled veteran in orlando who had his generator stolen during a hurricane a few years ago. He needed it to power the equipment that helped keep him alive. *it was sitting outside, under cover and was running when someone stole it. Letting others run cords has nothing to do with being Christian, if it can't handle the extra load. -- You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense. Here's the cat's meow. Get rid of all that recip machinery and it's inefficiency: http://www.bloomenergy.com/ |
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