Today, I fixed my Stanley distance calculator roller. I had broken off the
POS plastic housing, so wrapped it in 22ga. steel, and then welded a piece
of conduit on it for a NEW handle. I'm thinking of going to Ace and getting
a racy handlebar cover for the end of the conduit, but don't want to appear
too professional. But it does help when that roller wants to torque out of
your hands because of resistance to measuring asphalt. It's time to show
that roller who is in charge!

Then, I took my $10 garage sale trailer, and made some side posts from high
grade treated lumber. The stake pockets were exactly the size to receive 2
x 4 (Actually 1 5/8 x 3 1/2" for the newbies), and then used 2" x 6 "
treated lumber for the side rails. Well, actually 1 5/8" x 5 1/2" for the
uninformed. Then I used the heretoforementioned 2 x 4's and a 2 x 12 for
the small strip at the head of the trailer. 2 x 12 not actual
size..............

Then, I worked on my MIG cart, welding on the bottle holder, and the welder
holder, and deciding to use some cheapo red plastic bungees with the black
balls on them, just to help hold the cords on the cart. I fully intend to
add baskets to the cart that will hold grinders, markers, squares, etc. I
also fully intend to weld hooks on it to hold my NexGen EQC autodark hood
and colorful Comeaux caps. Ditto for the cables. But, I don't want to do
that until I use the cart, and find out where exactly these should be placed
on the MIG cart. It does roll well on my wood floor of the container, but I
need to blow out the blowsand that blew in with the last blow. Seems to be
pretty sturdy, though, with a low center of gravity.

Then I just putzed around in the shop. You know, putting pliers back in the
pliers drawer of the tool cabinet. Ditto for the wrenches. Throwing away
an astounding amount of trash and flammables ...............

I did put pigtails on three ATVs so that I can put a float charger on them
and keep them charged easily instead of having to dismantle them to the
frame to get regular charging clamps on there. I used the two prong NAPA
connectors, if you're interested.

Anyway, I just wanted to share a day in the life of a real metalworker,
who's out there doing it and not sitting around talking about bull****
political **** all day.

YMMV

Steve

"Steve B" wrote in message
Today, I fixed my Stanley distance calculator roller. I
had broken off the POS plastic housing, so wrapped it in
22ga. steel, and then welded a piece of conduit on it for
a NEW handle. I'm thinking of going to Ace and getting a
racy handlebar cover for the end of the conduit, but don't
want to appear too professional. But it does help when
that roller wants to torque out of your hands because of
resistance to measuring asphalt. It's time to show that
roller who is in charge!

Then, I took my $10 garage sale trailer, and made some
side posts from high grade treated lumber. The stake
pockets were exactly the size to receive 2 x 4 (Actually 1
5/8 x 3 1/2" for the newbies), and then used 2" x 6 "
treated lumber for the side rails. Well, actually 1 5/8"
x 5 1/2" for the uninformed. Then I used the
heretoforementioned 2 x 4's and a 2 x 12 for the small
strip at the head of the trailer. 2 x 12 not actual
size..............

Then, I worked on my MIG cart, welding on the bottle
holder, and the welder holder, and deciding to use some
cheapo red plastic bungees with the black balls on them,
just to help hold the cords on the cart. I fully intend
to add baskets to the cart that will hold grinders,
markers, squares, etc. I also fully intend to weld hooks
on it to hold my NexGen EQC autodark hood and colorful
Comeaux caps. Ditto for the cables. But, I don't want to
do that until I use the cart, and find out where exactly
these should be placed on the MIG cart. It does roll well
on my wood floor of the container, but I need to blow out
the blowsand that blew in with the last blow. Seems to be
pretty sturdy, though, with a low center of gravity.

Then I just putzed around in the shop. You know, putting
pliers back in the pliers drawer of the tool cabinet.
Ditto for the wrenches. Throwing away an astounding
amount of trash and flammables ...............

I did put pigtails on three ATVs so that I can put a float
charger on them and keep them charged easily instead of
having to dismantle them to the frame to get regular
charging clamps on there. I used the two prong NAPA
connectors, if you're interested.

Anyway, I just wanted to share a day in the life of a real
metalworker, who's out there doing it and not sitting
around talking about bull**** political **** all day.

YMMV

Steve


Aw yes, it's spring! Time to fire up on projects again and
enjoy life!
Have another fine day tomorrow, eih? ;))
phil

i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

you might remember last year i did this silly thing.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~wwixon/tirealien.jpg

we're doing another "litter pick up day" here tomorrow in my little town. 4
miles of road that borders/intersects 600 acres of historic farmland the
land owner wants to convert into a 300 unit condo development. some local
residents created a "save our hamlet" organization. we pick up the litter
along those roads as an expression of our love and concern for that parcel
of land. we'd like to keep it agriculture, hopefully interest a vineyard.
or if not agricultrue, how about a sculpture park similar to the storm king
art center? http://www.stormking.org/

well, so, this year i did another tire "sculpture" (from teh tires that had
been dumped there for the past 40 years.)

http://www.frontiernet.net/~wwixon/tirerobot.jpg

i think this one is a bit overwrought, but i got a chuckle from it anyhow.
the wind spinners are from the domed bottoms of spray paint rattle cans (i
DID some welding on the posts they're attached to). i used discarded neon
tubes, glued colored marbles (from inside paint rattle cans) on the ends.
found a mirror alongside the road and cut it into 5/8" squares and glued 'em
on. found the aluminum and glass domes in a dumpster. someone threw a roll
of aluminum foil alongside the road we're going to pick up along and i was
like, it was a gift from god, saying "here, use this too". i wanted to put
LEDs in the glass tubes and projecting onto the dome (to light it up at
night), but am too cheap and due to poor planning didn't have them on hand
in time. http://graffitiresearchlab.com/projects/led-throwies/

the tire alien STILL hasn't been vandalized, which to me is a TOTAL miracle.
i'm afraid this new one won't last the night... hopefully it will last
until tomorrow morning when we do the pick up so the participants can see it
and hopefully get a chuckle too.

i left the robot in a spot that traditionally gets a lot of dumping.
hopefully it might deter some. i tidied up that area a couple days ago in
preparation for this weekend. today i noticed someone had taken a ****
there and left the toilet paper there too. i assumed that was a commentary
on our efforts.


b.w.

"William Wixon" wrote in message
...
i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

you might remember last year i did this silly thing.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~wwixon/tirealien.jpg

we're doing another "litter pick up day" here tomorrow in my little town.
4 miles of road that borders/intersects 600 acres of historic farmland the
land owner wants to convert into a 300 unit condo development. some local
residents created a "save our hamlet" organization. we pick up the litter
along those roads as an expression of our love and concern for that parcel
of land. we'd like to keep it agriculture, hopefully interest a vineyard.
or if not agricultrue, how about a sculpture park similar to the storm
king art center? http://www.stormking.org/

well, so, this year i did another tire "sculpture" (from teh tires that
had been dumped there for the past 40 years.)

http://www.frontiernet.net/~wwixon/tirerobot.jpg

i think this one is a bit overwrought, but i got a chuckle from it anyhow.
the wind spinners are from the domed bottoms of spray paint rattle cans (i
DID some welding on the posts they're attached to). i used discarded neon
tubes, glued colored marbles (from inside paint rattle cans) on the ends.
found a mirror alongside the road and cut it into 5/8" squares and glued
'em on. found the aluminum and glass domes in a dumpster. someone threw
a roll of aluminum foil alongside the road we're going to pick up along
and i was like, it was a gift from god, saying "here, use this too". i
wanted to put LEDs in the glass tubes and projecting onto the dome (to
light it up at night), but am too cheap and due to poor planning didn't
have them on hand in time.
http://graffitiresearchlab.com/projects/led-throwies/

the tire alien STILL hasn't been vandalized, which to me is a TOTAL
miracle. i'm afraid this new one won't last the night... hopefully it
will last until tomorrow morning when we do the pick up so the
participants can see it and hopefully get a chuckle too.

i left the robot in a spot that traditionally gets a lot of dumping.
hopefully it might deter some. i tidied up that area a couple days ago in
preparation for this weekend. today i noticed someone had taken a ****
there and left the toilet paper there too. i assumed that was a
commentary on our efforts.


b.w.

I have some granite sink cutouts that I am going to mount on a pedestal of
rebar, then run a water source down them in a triangular cascade
configuration. Of course, I will keep you posted.

It's just that I have so much more fun out putzing in the shop than writing
to some of the usual suspects here on the Internet.

Steve

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:06:02 -0400, "Phil Kangas"
wrote:



Aw yes, it's spring! Time to fire up on projects again and
enjoy life!
Have another fine day tomorrow, eih? ;))
phil


Time to determine which dumpster mower to use this year - most I've
paid for a lawn mower lately was $5 back in 1990, and I gave that one
away last year, still running fine.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

"Phil Kangas" wrote:

Aw yes, it's spring! Time to fire up on projects again and
enjoy life!
Have another fine day tomorrow, eih? ;))
phil


Spring is for metalworking? I got my machine room done in time so I could make chips
comfortably in the winter. I *thought* I was going to shop for an air conditioner today
for the shop but winter came back. I can put that off for another week.

What sized air conditioner do I need for a roughly 8' x 12' shop where summer temperatures
seldom get over 90 degrees F? There is a lot of thermal mass in the shop that might skew
what would be recommended for something of volume like a bed room.

As an aside, my first google came up with response on how big a air conditioner to deal
with the heat from the grow lights in the room some guy is growing mary jane. You never
know what you will find DAGS.

As to my needs, I'm thinking 3500-5000 btu, I'd rather have something quite that just
whirls away a bit on a hot day, sure don't want to sweat and freeze as something to big
kicks on.

Thanks,


Wes

On Apr 17, 7:37*am, Wes wrote:

What sized air conditioner do I need for a roughly 8' x 12' shop where summer temperatures
seldom get over 90 degrees F? *There is a lot of thermal mass in the shop that might skew
what would be recommended for something of volume like a bed room.

Thanks,

Wes

If it has a lot of thermal mass, you could put it on a timer and run
it at night when the outside temperature is lower. Get the shop so it
is a little on the cool side and then a small unit would work to keep
it cool.

Dan

On 4/16/2010 7:16 PM, William Wixon wrote:
i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

Your bot made me smile.
William, you are one of the good ones.

--Winston

wrote in message
...
On Apr 17, 7:37 am, Wes wrote:

What sized air conditioner do I need for a roughly 8' x 12' shop where
summer temperatures
seldom get over 90 degrees F? There is a lot of thermal mass in the shop
that might skew
what would be recommended for something of volume like a bed room.

Thanks,

Wes

If it has a lot of thermal mass, you could put it on a timer and run
it at night when the outside temperature is lower. Get the shop so it
is a little on the cool side and then a small unit would work to keep
it cool.

Dan

One time, I rented a 1250 sf, or so, shop. It was a metal building, with
concrete slab, and it was all insulated, and had a big heat pump on it.
Actually quality construction. In the summer, I just couldn't get it cool.
I called the manager, and he called the AC guy. He came and tested, and
pronounced everything good. He just said that I had such a thermal mass of
stored steel and equipment that the residual heat kept it from cooling. He
said if I did want it to cool down, it would take running 24/7 for about two
weeks to draw all the btus out of the steel, and then, it would shoot back
up if I opened the door, or gained the heat back. So much for an AC'd shop.
But that included about twenty bundles of tubing at any time, plus lots of
plate and other assorted steel, plus heat created by cutting and welding and
the machines.

Steve

"Winston" wrote in message
...
On 4/16/2010 7:16 PM, William Wixon wrote:
i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

Your bot made me smile.
William, you are one of the good ones.

--Winston


wow. thanks winston. (that's high praise here on r.c.m.) :-)

we did the litter pick up yesterday. 4 miles of road. we had 8 volunteers
this year, that's down from the 12 or 15 we've had on previous years, that
was hugely disappointing, but maybe it's proportional because there was less
litter to pick up this year too. we got maybe about 6 FULL bags of litter
(if you consolidated all the partial bags into full bags). thank goodness
there were no couches, mattresses, tires, etc. this year. reporter from a
local paper showed up and took some pictures, asked some questions, that was
nice/encouraging.

while i was picking up the litter this recent news story came to mind.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stiv-j..._b_539468.html

Wes wrote:

As to my needs, I'm thinking 3500-5000 btu, I'd rather have something quite that just
whirls away a bit on a hot day, sure don't want to sweat and freeze as something to big
kicks on.

That mary jane website gave 3500 btu per 1000 watt lighting and 20 btu per square feet.

So my lighting loads are 476 to 700 btu depending on if only the overhead lights are on or
if the two 100 watt lights on the bridgegport are operating. I can see how a decent high
wattage led replacement could save a lot of money. Heck, in summer, I'll put some of
those twisters in. Winter, well heat is always handy.

The human body puts out about 650 BTU/HR (190 watts) doing light work.

The room itself calculates out to 2160 BTU/HR

Added up I get a range of 3286 to 3510.

Hitting Menards, Sears, and other appliance sellers shows ~5000 as the smallest size
available in the area so I guess my choice is made.

The only other thing is the SEER rating of 9.7 to 10.8 . I'm willing to pay a bit more for
a more efficient air conditioner. So far the Fridgidaire at Sears seems like the one to
buy.

One of the things that makes it miserable in a hot shop is humidity. This should help
control that.

For those that paid attention to my heating thread, I kept the room at 52F during the last
winter except for when I turned up the temperature to 60-62F when I was in there working.
My cost per day was 61 cents at 10.5 cents per KWH.

This year was rather mild so next year will be a better test. Michigan near 45N


Wes

On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 11:35:49 -0500, "William Wixon"
wrote:


"Winston" wrote in message
...
On 4/16/2010 7:16 PM, William Wixon wrote:
i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

Your bot made me smile.
William, you are one of the good ones.

--Winston


wow. thanks winston. (that's high praise here on r.c.m.) :-)

we did the litter pick up yesterday. 4 miles of road. we had 8 volunteers
this year, that's down from the 12 or 15 we've had on previous years, that
was hugely disappointing, but maybe it's proportional because there was less
litter to pick up this year too. we got maybe about 6 FULL bags of litter
(if you consolidated all the partial bags into full bags). thank goodness
there were no couches, mattresses, tires, etc. this year. reporter from a
local paper showed up and took some pictures, asked some questions, that was
nice/encouraging.

while i was picking up the litter this recent news story came to mind.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stiv-j..._b_539468.html


Sounds like a very good Recycling project, no? And easy to do!
Simply hang a fine net overboard, between a couple boats and go.



Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

On 4/18/2010 9:35 AM, William Wixon wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 4/16/2010 7:16 PM, William Wixon wrote:
i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

Your bot made me smile.
William, you are one of the good ones.

--Winston


wow. thanks winston. (that's high praise here on r.c.m.) :-)

we did the litter pick up yesterday. 4 miles of road. we had 8 volunteers
this year, that's down from the 12 or 15 we've had on previous years, that
was hugely disappointing, but maybe it's proportional because there was less
litter to pick up this year too. we got maybe about 6 FULL bags of litter
(if you consolidated all the partial bags into full bags). thank goodness
there were no couches, mattresses, tires, etc. this year. reporter from a
local paper showed up and took some pictures, asked some questions, that was
nice/encouraging.

It's rewarding when we do good, especially when no one asked us.

More power to you.

--Winston

On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:44:17 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

Anyway, I just wanted to share a day in the life of a real metalworker,
who's out there doing it and not sitting around talking about bull****
political **** all day.

YMMV

Steve

I created an opportunity for a metalworking project. After a bit of
cleanup my first try at stress-free pillar-bedding bedding a rifle
actually doesn't look bad at all. While reassembling the trigger assy
to the barrelled action, I had this little spring within an amoeba's
red **** hair of aligned and ready to poke the pin when ... PING! That
spring is now orbiting Fargo for all I know. Oh darn! I had a
plastic bag right there at hand but I thought I wouldn't need to work
in a bag to keep track of that little ****ant spring. Wrong-o!

So now I need to make a spring from my memory of what that spring
looked like. I can probably eventually get one from Savage or
Brownell's or someone but I want to get this rifle back in service so
I can see how it shoots.

On 4/18/2010 9:15 PM, Don Foreman wrote:

(...)

PING! That spring is now orbiting Fargo for all I know. Oh darn! I had a
plastic bag right there at hand but I thought I wouldn't need to work
in a bag to keep track of that little ****ant spring. Wrong-o!

It is probably worth 5 minutes of 'drag-the-baggied-magnet' on the
end of a string. I retrieve fasteners a lot using that method.

--Winston

On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 21:24:37 -0700, the infamous Winston
scrawled the following:

On 4/18/2010 9:15 PM, Don Foreman wrote:

(...)

PING! That spring is now orbiting Fargo for all I know. Oh darn! I had a
plastic bag right there at hand but I thought I wouldn't need to work
in a bag to keep track of that little ****ant spring. Wrong-o!

It is probably worth 5 minutes of 'drag-the-baggied-magnet' on the
end of a string. I retrieve fasteners a lot using that method.

If anyone wonders why we put baggies around our magnets, just drag
yours raw on the ground for about 3 seconds. You'll find out.

White-painted floors help immensely, too, butcha gotta keep 'em clean.

---
A book burrows into your life in a very profound way
because the experience of reading is not passive.
--Erica Jong

Steve B wrote:
... I have found more than one small item that went
flying, and I had very little confidence in finding one of them. It's kinda
like fishing.

Yeah, "kinda like fishing" in that sometimes you catchem & sometimes you
don't. I lost a small part once that I desperately needed - ran a
magnet over every square inch of the shop floor (on my hands & knees) &
didn't find it. Someone here once posted that really small parts
sometimes get into a quantum mechanical state where they tunnel to a
small town in Kansas. I believe it.

Bob

Don Foreman wrote:

I created an opportunity for a metalworking project. After a bit of
cleanup my first try at stress-free pillar-bedding bedding a rifle
actually doesn't look bad at all. While reassembling the trigger assy
to the barrelled action, I had this little spring within an amoeba's
red **** hair of aligned and ready to poke the pin when ... PING! That
spring is now orbiting Fargo for all I know. Oh darn! I had a
plastic bag right there at hand but I thought I wouldn't need to work
in a bag to keep track of that little ****ant spring. Wrong-o!

So now I need to make a spring from my memory of what that spring
looked like. I can probably eventually get one from Savage or
Brownell's or someone but I want to get this rifle back in service so
I can see how it shoots.

Which spring was it?

Wes

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:09:53 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Steve B wrote:
... I have found more than one small item that went
flying, and I had very little confidence in finding one of them. It's kinda
like fishing.

Yeah, "kinda like fishing" in that sometimes you catchem & sometimes you
don't. I lost a small part once that I desperately needed - ran a
magnet over every square inch of the shop floor (on my hands & knees) &
didn't find it. Someone here once posted that really small parts
sometimes get into a quantum mechanical state where they tunnel to a
small town in Kansas. I believe it.

Bob

"As physicists now know, there is some nonzero probability that any
object will, through quantum effects, tunnel from the workbench in your
shop to Floyds Knobs, Indiana (unless your shop is already in Indiana,
in which case the object will tunnel to Trotters, North Dakota).

The smaller mass of the object, the higher the probability.
Therefore, disassembled parts, particularly small ones,
of machines disappear much faster than assembled machines."
Greg Dermer: rec.crafts.metalworking

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

"William Wixon" wrote:

i did some metalworkish kind of stuff this past week and finished it and
erected it today.

you might remember last year i did this silly thing.

http://www.frontiernet.net/~wwixon/tirealien.jpg

we're doing another "litter pick up day" here tomorrow in my little town. 4
miles of road that borders/intersects 600 acres of historic farmland the
land owner wants to convert into a 300 unit condo development. some local
residents created a "save our hamlet" organization. we pick up the litter
along those roads as an expression of our love and concern for that parcel
of land. we'd like to keep it agriculture, hopefully interest a vineyard.
or if not agricultrue, how about a sculpture park similar to the storm king
art center? http://www.stormking.org/

The intersection of keeping things the same vs making a buck. Sometimes it is hard to
just leave property lay as it is.

Our family has some acreage but the way property taxes work, the next generation isn't
likely to be able to afford holding it in it's natural state. Currently Mom and Uncle are
looking into selling the developement rights to a conservancy but the tax law on that
isn't fully developed.

We would just like to have the swamp, stream, and highland stay the way it has been for
the last couple generations if we can work it out.


well, so, this year i did another tire "sculpture" (from teh tires that had
been dumped there for the past 40 years.)

http://www.frontiernet.net/~wwixon/tirerobot.jpg

i think this one is a bit overwrought, but i got a chuckle from it anyhow.


Thanks for being one of those that adopt a highway or whatever public tract of land.


Wes

"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
... I have found more than one small item that went
flying, and I had very little confidence in finding one of them. It's
kinda like fishing.

Yeah, "kinda like fishing" in that sometimes you catchem & sometimes you
don't. I lost a small part once that I desperately needed - ran a magnet
over every square inch of the shop floor (on my hands & knees) & didn't
find it. Someone here once posted that really small parts sometimes get
into a quantum mechanical state where they tunnel to a small town in
Kansas. I believe it.

Bob

Until the day when you feel "squisssssssssshhhhhhhhhhh" under the heel of
your Red Wings and find your lost part. Well, what's left of it, anyway.
But then, sometimes, there are the times when you may find it way down the
road off in a little corner somewhere. Of course, by now, you've thrown
away the perfectly good gizzmit it went to.

Steve

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 15:25:48 -0700, the infamous Gunner Asch
scrawled the following:

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:09:53 -0400, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

Steve B wrote:
... I have found more than one small item that went
flying, and I had very little confidence in finding one of them. It's kinda
like fishing.

Yeah, "kinda like fishing" in that sometimes you catchem & sometimes you
don't. I lost a small part once that I desperately needed - ran a
magnet over every square inch of the shop floor (on my hands & knees) &
didn't find it. Someone here once posted that really small parts
sometimes get into a quantum mechanical state where they tunnel to a
small town in Kansas. I believe it.

Bob

"As physicists now know, there is some nonzero probability that any
object will, through quantum effects, tunnel from the workbench in your
shop to Floyds Knobs, Indiana (unless your shop is already in Indiana,
in which case the object will tunnel to Trotters, North Dakota).

The smaller mass of the object, the higher the probability.
Therefore, disassembled parts, particularly small ones,
of machines disappear much faster than assembled machines."
Greg Dermer: rec.crafts.metalworking

When I was wrenching, I found a neat little gizmo on the SnapOn truck
which I immediately confiscated from it. I called it a Jesus Clip
Retainer. Its function was to grab those tiny little itsy bitsy clips
on the carb linkage to keep them from flying off when you install or
uninstall them. Otherwise, you wander around saying "Jesus, where'd
that little sumbish clip go?" for an hour, each time, after you hear
it ricochet off 'lebenty seven different metal objects during its trip
to the floor, or worse. Yeah, you know the ones I'm talking about.
They're like C or E clips with portions of SuperBall mixed in.

Wiki has a faskinatin' story on the latter object. http://fwd4.me/9td

---
A book burrows into your life in a very profound way
because the experience of reading is not passive.
--Erica Jong

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 22:45:36 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:


Wiki has a faskinatin' story on the latter object. http://fwd4.me/9td

In the late 1960s Wham-O made a "giant" superball, roughly the size of a
bowling ball, as a promotional stunt.[3][4] It fell from the 23rd story
window of an Australian hotel (or some reports say, from the roof) and
destroyed a parked convertible car on the 2nd bounce.[3][4]

VBG

Thats a Weapon of mass destruction!!



"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

On Mon, 19 Apr 2010 18:18:04 -0400, Wes
wrote:

Don Foreman wrote:

I created an opportunity for a metalworking project. After a bit of
cleanup my first try at stress-free pillar-bedding bedding a rifle
actually doesn't look bad at all. While reassembling the trigger assy
to the barrelled action, I had this little spring within an amoeba's
red **** hair of aligned and ready to poke the pin when ... PING! That
spring is now orbiting Fargo for all I know. Oh darn! I had a
plastic bag right there at hand but I thought I wouldn't need to work
in a bag to keep track of that little ****ant spring. Wrong-o!

So now I need to make a spring from my memory of what that spring
looked like. I can probably eventually get one from Savage or
Brownell's or someone but I want to get this rifle back in service so
I can see how it shoots.

Which spring was it?

Wes

The one that returns the bolt release thingy. The terminology in
Savage documentation I've found calls it something to do with sear
which is obviously wrong since it has nothing to do with the sear.

Don Foreman wrote:

Which spring was it?

Wes

The one that returns the bolt release thingy. The terminology in
Savage documentation I've found calls it something to do with sear
which is obviously wrong since it has nothing to do with the sear.

Assuming it isn't something that would but life and limb at risk, could you substitute a
small cross section of an oring as an emergincy spring?

Wes

On Apr 18, 10:52*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"Don Foreman" wrote in message

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On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 14:44:17 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

Anyway, I just wanted to share a day in the life of a real metalworker,
who's out there doing it and not sitting around talking about bull****
political **** all day.

YMMV

Steve

I created an opportunity for a metalworking project. After a bit of
cleanup my first try at stress-free pillar-bedding bedding a rifle
actually doesn't look bad at all. *While reassembling the trigger assy
to the barrelled action, I had this little spring within an amoeba's
red **** hair of aligned and ready to poke the pin when ... PING! That
spring is now orbiting Fargo for all I know. *Oh darn! *I had a
plastic bag right there at hand but I thought I wouldn't need to work
in a bag to keep track of that little ****ant spring. *Wrong-o!

So now I need to make a spring from my memory of what that spring
looked like. * I can probably eventually get one from Savage or
Brownell's or someone but I want to get this rifle back in service so
I can see how it shoots.

I got one of those little telescopic magnets that look like an old car
antenna, but small enough to fit into one's pocket, complete with rare earth
magnet and pocket clip. *I have found more than one small item that went
flying, and I had very little confidence in finding one of them. *It's kinda
like fishing.

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HF has my new favorite fishing tool, consists of a RE ring magnet with
an LED flashlight in back of it and a telescopic handle. Collapsed,
it isn't much longer than a regular Mini-Maglight. THE Thing for
fishing around for parts that went Sproing. I leave it hanging by the
magnet from a section of wire shelving until needed. Sucks those tiny
springs, pins and clips right out of the cracks under boxes where
they've embedded themselves.

They have a tinier version with an acrylic end, the magnet is a lot
smaller and I've had one come loose. Good for restricted access
areas, though, the end is about 3/8" dia.

Stan

"Bob Engelhardt" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
... I have found more than one small item that went
flying, and I had very little confidence in finding one of them. It's
kinda like fishing.

Yeah, "kinda like fishing" in that sometimes you catchem & sometimes you
don't. I lost a small part once that I desperately needed - ran a magnet
over every square inch of the shop floor (on my hands & knees) & didn't
find it. Someone here once posted that really small parts sometimes get
into a quantum mechanical state where they tunnel to a small town in
Kansas. I believe it.

Bob


I had a spring thingy go flying one time. Finally bought another device.
Forget even what I was working on. About 2 years later, I am on a ladder
and see it on top of a wall cabinet. I am sure I heard it hit the floor.

On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 04:49:18 -0400, Wes
wrote:

Don Foreman wrote:

Which spring was it?

Wes

The one that returns the bolt release thingy. The terminology in
Savage documentation I've found calls it something to do with sear
which is obviously wrong since it has nothing to do with the sear.

Assuming it isn't something that would but life and limb at risk, could you substitute a
small cross section of an oring as an emergincy spring?

Wes

Don't think so. It's a torsion spring, like this:

/0\

sorta like a mouse trap.

I'll make one out of music wire.