With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

Ed Huntress wrote:
With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from
underneath, I made an interesting discovery today. I don't work
upside-down much anymore and I get things a little backwards; I
squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto my favorite baseball cap and into
my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of
your hat with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's
as sweet as sugar water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone
Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it.
If anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the
flavor of that's like, too. d8-)

Your gizmo will probably be glued shut the next time you pee Ed.
Keep some solvent handy buddy!
LOL

--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com

Ed Huntress writes:

In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

At $5,000.00 per gallon, Loctite 242 is not on my menu.

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.


Sweet! Gotta love the taste of cyano-acrylate in the morning, right?

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.


Ed, you've got a winner here. You merely need to devise a cocktail
recipe that includes 242 as an ingredient and supply that to the
conventions for both political parties. Think of a trendy name.

For the Republicans it might be a "sealed lips".

For the dems, I dunno since the current mantra is "change" which
doesn't seem consistent with Loctite. Use of Loctite does seem to
imply commitment to a clear course .... nevermind.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.


Sweet! Gotta love the taste of cyano-acrylate in the morning, right?

Who would have guessed what it tasted like? Jeez, what an unpleasant
surprise that was.

--
Ed Huntress

On Aug 31, 6:29*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

It smells almond like too. Guess we know where that comes from.
Karl

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)


Hey Ed,

Empirical testing and evidence is best, but I don't think I would have
the nerve you do, to do that kinda useful customer report. Thank
You!! (I'll know what to do next time my wife needs a "Sweet&Low for
her coffee!!)

Besides, I can't figure out what you were doing with Loctite and a
trailer hitch. Having just had a new Reece put on my mini-van Friday,
it became apparent that the best product to apply was "Nev'r'Seez" or
"Masters Metallic". 2 of 4 bolts snapped off during the removal
stage, and one took three "nut welds" and a strong application of a
new "E-Z-OUT" before surrendering! Anti-seize was liberally applied
to the new bolts!!! (I hope to have a newer van in a few months, and
will be very pleased if this hitch fits it too.)

By the way, the "E-Z-OUT" set was brand-new (first use) and a style I
had not seen before. It comes in a nice little box with 5 sizes, each
with it's own LH drill-bit (of excellent quality by-the-way). There
are also guide-bushings for the bits. A size is selected, drilled as
deep as possible, and the matching splined hard pin is hammered home
and a matching splined-hole hex placed on it and turned. Worked a
treat. Mechanic says "Well, that just paid for itself!" although I
didn't ask the price. I can get details for any further interest
here.

Take care. Happy Labour Day!! Great day for us as we just gained a
daughter-in-law last night!!

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 07:39:07 -0400, Brian Lawson
wrote:

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)


Hey Ed,

Empirical testing and evidence is best, but I don't think I would have
the nerve you do, to do that kinda useful customer report. Thank
You!! (I'll know what to do next time my wife needs a "Sweet&Low for
her coffee!!)

Besides, I can't figure out what you were doing with Loctite and a
trailer hitch. Having just had a new Reece put on my mini-van Friday,
it became apparent that the best product to apply was "Nev'r'Seez" or
"Masters Metallic". 2 of 4 bolts snapped off during the removal
stage, and one took three "nut welds" and a strong application of a
new "E-Z-OUT" before surrendering! Anti-seize was liberally applied
to the new bolts!!! (I hope to have a newer van in a few months, and
will be very pleased if this hitch fits it too.)

By the way, the "E-Z-OUT" set was brand-new (first use) and a style I
had not seen before. It comes in a nice little box with 5 sizes, each
with it's own LH drill-bit (of excellent quality by-the-way). There
are also guide-bushings for the bits. A size is selected, drilled as
deep as possible, and the matching splined hard pin is hammered home
and a matching splined-hole hex placed on it and turned. Worked a
treat. Mechanic says "Well, that just paid for itself!" although I
didn't ask the price. I can get details for any further interest
here.

Take care. Happy Labour Day!! Great day for us as we just gained a
daughter-in-law last night!!

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

Brilliant! Once or more than once, sir?


There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

We won't ask.


'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

I had a spider drop on my mustache once (going to UTI in '72 and
wrenching at a used car lot for extra dough parttime), as I fit an oil
pan up onto the block. I quickly brushed it off and, of course, there
was some silicone gasket sealer on my fingers at the time. It had no
taste (just that horrible acetic acid smell and the bright blue color)
and I had to trim the hell out of my mustache later that day, despite
wiping it off immediately and thoroughly.

--
The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life,
acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can
do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man.
-- Euripides

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as
sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)


Hey Ed,

Empirical testing and evidence is best, but I don't think I would have
the nerve you do, to do that kinda useful customer report. Thank
You!! (I'll know what to do next time my wife needs a "Sweet&Low for
her coffee!!)

Besides, I can't figure out what you were doing with Loctite and a
trailer hitch.

Belt and suspenders. g It came with Belleville washers, but I didn't want
to put in anti-seize, and Loctite serves both purposes pretty well. I used a
lot of the stuff when I raced sports cars and I've come to rely on it for
most fastening jobs around a car.

Regarding the sweetness of Loctite, I suspect it's also highly toxic. That's
why I made the reference to antifreeze. It's sweet, too, and toxic as hell.
It kills some dogs and cats every year, when they lap up a puddle of it left
from a leaking radiator.

Having just had a new Reece put on my mini-van Friday,
it became apparent that the best product to apply was "Nev'r'Seez" or
"Masters Metallic". 2 of 4 bolts snapped off during the removal
stage, and one took three "nut welds" and a strong application of a
new "E-Z-OUT" before surrendering! Anti-seize was liberally applied
to the new bolts!!! (I hope to have a newer van in a few months, and
will be very pleased if this hitch fits it too.)

By the way, the "E-Z-OUT" set was brand-new (first use) and a style I
had not seen before. It comes in a nice little box with 5 sizes, each
with it's own LH drill-bit (of excellent quality by-the-way). There
are also guide-bushings for the bits. A size is selected, drilled as
deep as possible, and the matching splined hard pin is hammered home
and a matching splined-hole hex placed on it and turned. Worked a
treat. Mechanic says "Well, that just paid for itself!" although I
didn't ask the price. I can get details for any further interest
here.

Take care. Happy Labour Day!! Great day for us as we just gained a
daughter-in-law last night!!

Hey, congrats, Brian!

--
Ed Huntress

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed
Huntress" quickly quoth:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

Brilliant! Once or more than once, sir?

Ha-ha!



There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as
sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

We won't ask.

Antifreeze will kill you. Don't let your pets lap up the leaks.



'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

I had a spider drop on my mustache once (going to UTI in '72 and
wrenching at a used car lot for extra dough parttime), as I fit an oil
pan up onto the block. I quickly brushed it off and, of course, there
was some silicone gasket sealer on my fingers at the time. It had no
taste (just that horrible acetic acid smell and the bright blue color)
and I had to trim the hell out of my mustache later that day, despite
wiping it off immediately and thoroughly.

--
The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life,
acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can
do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man.
-- Euripides

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

Ed, I think you need to change your diet.

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as
sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

Ed, I think you need to change your diet.

Wes

That was a force-feeding, Wes, not a choice. Lying there, upside-down, I was
surprised to see the Loctite flowing *up*. But it actually was down. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

That was a force-feeding, Wes, not a choice. Lying there, upside-down, I was
surprised to see the Loctite flowing *up*. But it actually was down. d8-)


Same story with the Prestone?

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

That was a force-feeding, Wes, not a choice. Lying there, upside-down, I
was
surprised to see the Loctite flowing *up*. But it actually was down. d8-)


Same story with the Prestone?

Wes

The Prestone was sampled around 43 years ago, so the recipe may have
changed. That was an experiment to see how the radiator petcock worked. g

--
Ed Huntress

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

The Prestone was sampled around 43 years ago, so the recipe may have
changed. That was an experiment to see how the radiator petcock worked. g

Two quick with the radiator cap is how I got my first taste.

Used to hang out with a bud that ran a septic tank pump truck. His advice was keep your
mouth shut when close to the hole or hose.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

The Prestone was sampled around 43 years ago, so the recipe may have
changed. That was an experiment to see how the radiator petcock worked.
g

Two quick with the radiator cap is how I got my first taste.

Used to hang out with a bud that ran a septic tank pump truck. His advice
was keep your
mouth shut when close to the hole or hose.

Wes

Ha-HA! Oh, man, I'll bet that's a quick teacher. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:57:48 -0400, Wes wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

The Prestone was sampled around 43 years ago, so the recipe may have
changed. That was an experiment to see how the radiator petcock worked. g

Two quick with the radiator cap is how I got my first taste.

Used to hang out with a bud that ran a septic tank pump truck. His advice was keep your
mouth shut when close to the hole or hose.

Wes

Keeping one's mouth shut is hardly ever a bad idea.

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today.

Note: Real trailer hitches don't install with bolts, they install
with a wirefeed welder. And real hitches don't stick down under the
car much, so you can still go in and out of almost any driveway
without scraping.

The fake ones are designed badly on purpose - they put a big name
sticker on the crossbar and they must build the hitches to hang real
low for the free advertising so everyone can see who made it - and the
sparks going through the driveway only attract more attention...

I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

Yuck!

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

There are some glycols in it most likely. Not good for your insides
in larger quantities, so don't make a habit of drinking it.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

If it ever happens, I'll let you know...

-- Bruce --

Ed Huntress wrote:
With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



With the safety nazis these days I expect if it were dangerous it would
be plastered with warnings but it did remind of watching a short program
about this place http://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/default.htm and IIRC
Belladona, which is grown there, was mentioned as being quite dangerous
because it was sweet tasting but unfortunately for those that like the
taste quite poisonous.

Some years back I recall reading about some imported wines, whose flavor was
"improved" by the addition of ethylene glycol (antifreeze.) I can't
remember whether anyone died.

"Don Foreman" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as
sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.


Ed, you've got a winner here. You merely need to devise a cocktail
recipe that includes 242 as an ingredient and supply that to the
conventions for both political parties. Think of a trendy name.

For the Republicans it might be a "sealed lips".

For the dems, I dunno since the current mantra is "change" which
doesn't seem consistent with Loctite. Use of Loctite does seem to
imply commitment to a clear course .... nevermind.

Jeez, another philosopher. g

--
Ed Huntress

In Chemistry class we were taught that if you think you absolutely
must try to identify a chemical by smell, put the cap on, shake the
bottle, remove and sniff the cap. That way there's less chance of
inhaling a strong concentration of the vapor.

"Bruce L. Bergman" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:29:29 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath, I
made an interesting discovery today.

Note: Real trailer hitches don't install with bolts, they install
with a wirefeed welder. And real hitches don't stick down under the
car much, so you can still go in and out of almost any driveway
without scraping.

The car manufacturers are arguing against that these days, Bruce. All of the
structure down there is thin HSLA steel. It doesn't like welding.

This hitch is a light-duty one on a Hyundai Sonata. There are backup plates
behind the attachment points, pre-tapped and with bolts lightly fastened in
place. The bolts seem to have no other function. I think the whole deal is
planned just for attaching a hitch, and I was quite surprised at what I saw.

Now, a light truck with a ladder frame is a different story. I don't know
what they're recommending for those now. The hitch on my dad's '67 Bronco
was welded on. That's the last hitch I had before this one.


The fake ones are designed badly on purpose - they put a big name
sticker on the crossbar and they must build the hitches to hang real
low for the free advertising so everyone can see who made it - and the
sparks going through the driveway only attract more attention...

I don't work upside-down much anymore
and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite 242 onto
my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

Yuck!

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat
with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet as
sugar
water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

There are some glycols in it most likely. Not good for your insides
in larger quantities, so don't make a habit of drinking it.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

If it ever happens, I'll let you know...

-- Bruce --

"David Billington" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath,
I made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much
anymore and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite
242 onto my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet
as sugar water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress


With the safety nazis these days I expect if it were dangerous it would be
plastered with warnings but it did remind of watching a short program
about this place http://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/default.htm and IIRC
Belladona, which is grown there, was mentioned as being quite dangerous
because it was sweet tasting but unfortunately for those that like the
taste quite poisonous.

Yes, the source of atropine. Some of it has gone wild around here, too. It's
one nasty plant.

--
Ed Huntress

"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...
Some years back I recall reading about some imported wines, whose flavor
was "improved" by the addition of ethylene glycol (antifreeze.) I can't
remember whether anyone died.

That was from Italy, and it was in the late '60s, IIRC. It did make a lot of
people sick. I don't know if there was enough of it in the wine to kill
anyone, though.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 05:20:05 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:


'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

I had a spider drop on my mustache once


Happens here all the time. Usually a black widow spider too.

Gunner


"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

Ed Huntress wrote:
"David Billington" wrote in message
...

Ed Huntress wrote:

With my car up on ramps, installing a new trailer hitch from underneath,
I made an interesting discovery today. I don't work upside-down much
anymore and I get things a little backwards; I squeezed a tube of Loctite
242 onto my favorite baseball cap and into my mouth.

There were two discoveries, actually. First, Loctite washes out of your
hat with soap and water, if you get it quickly. Secondly, it's as sweet
as sugar water. In fact, it tastes a lot like Prestone Antifreeze.

'Just thought you'd want to know, in case you ever wondered about it. If
anyone gets to taste gasket cement, please let us know what the flavor of
that's like, too. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



With the safety nazis these days I expect if it were dangerous it would be
plastered with warnings but it did remind of watching a short program
about this place http://www.thepoisongarden.co.uk/default.htm and IIRC
Belladona, which is grown there, was mentioned as being quite dangerous
because it was sweet tasting but unfortunately for those that like the
taste quite poisonous.


Yes, the source of atropine. Some of it has gone wild around here, too. It's
one nasty plant.

--
Ed Huntress



Thanks for the comment on atropine, looking at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atropine it looks to be rather useful, like
many things a double edged sword and beneficial when used appropriately.

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 10:03:36 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

That was a force-feeding, Wes, not a choice. Lying there, upside-down, I was
surprised to see the Loctite flowing *up*. But it actually was down. d8-)


Same story with the Prestone?

No, I think that was an attempted suicide. He knew it was poisonous
and warned us to keep pets away. bseg

--
The best and safest thing is to keep a balance in your life,
acknowledge the great powers around us and in us. If you can
do that, and live that way, you are really a wise man.
-- Euripides

Larry Jaques wrote:

Same story with the Prestone?

No, I think that was an attempted suicide. He knew it was poisonous
and warned us to keep pets away. bseg


I wonder how that ecofriendly stuff tastes? I've learned my lesson about keeping my mouth
shut when appropriate.

WEs

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

The car manufacturers are arguing against that these days, Bruce. All of the
structure down there is thin HSLA steel. It doesn't like welding.

This hitch is a light-duty one on a Hyundai Sonata. There are backup plates
behind the attachment points, pre-tapped and with bolts lightly fastened in
place. The bolts seem to have no other function. I think the whole deal is
planned just for attaching a hitch, and I was quite surprised at what I saw.


I keep waiting for the day when Michigan rust ruins the integrity of my Saturn SL1's
hitch. The rest of the car may be toast by then. It seems to be bolted though the trunk
sheet metal but is working okay so far.

My latest loads.

http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/4x8_window.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/rohm_score.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/r...ation_work.jpg


Wes

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 14:02:11 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message
...
Some years back I recall reading about some imported wines, whose flavor
was "improved" by the addition of ethylene glycol (antifreeze.) I can't
remember whether anyone died.

That was from Italy, and it was in the late '60s, IIRC. It did make a lot of
people sick. I don't know if there was enough of it in the wine to kill
anyone, though.
==========
Could have been Italy also, but I remember it as Austria. It also
appears to have been diethylene glycol [more media failure to
fact check]

"Much Austrian wine was at this time sold into the German market
in bulk, but this market demanded riper (and thus sweeter) wines
than these low-end products, which were light, dilute, and
acidic. A cunning chemist discovered that adding a small amount
of diethylene glycol to wines such as these added a certain body
and sweetness to them, and rendered them more palatable.
Diethylene glycol was considered safe, and was very difficult to
detect by the authorities. Tankerloads of doctored wine were
shipped off to Germany masquerading as quality wine, with forged
documentation supporting its supposed provenance. ==One has to
question the intelligence of those perpetrating the fraud,
however, as the scandal came to light when of one of them claimed
for the the cost of the ethylene glycol on his income tax
return.==
-----------
http://www.nickdobsonwines.co.uk/ind...l&BrochureBody
Bevis and Butt-Head appear to have been living in Austria and
making wine at that time....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylene_glycol
{ 1/3 way down page}
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2862427
http://www.sltrib.com/food/ci_10107498

and a bunch more. Google on wine austria "ethylene glycol" for
2.8k hits.


Unka' George [George McDuffee]
-------------------------------------------
He that will not apply new remedies,
must expect new evils:
for Time is the greatest innovator: and
if Time, of course, alter things to the worse,
and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better,
what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman.
Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

The car manufacturers are arguing against that these days, Bruce. All of
the
structure down there is thin HSLA steel. It doesn't like welding.

This hitch is a light-duty one on a Hyundai Sonata. There are backup
plates
behind the attachment points, pre-tapped and with bolts lightly fastened
in
place. The bolts seem to have no other function. I think the whole deal is
planned just for attaching a hitch, and I was quite surprised at what I
saw.


I keep waiting for the day when Michigan rust ruins the integrity of my
Saturn SL1's
hitch. The rest of the car may be toast by then. It seems to be bolted
though the trunk
sheet metal but is working okay so far.

My latest loads.

http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/4x8_window.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/rohm_score.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/r...ation_work.jpg


Wes

That's a nice little utility trailer. I could use something like that. Right
now, all I'm doing it taking my son's furniture to college in a U-Haul. I
was supposed to be out of here today, but everything went haywire.
Fortunately, we don't have to be there until Thursday.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:55:54 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

SNIP

This hitch is a light-duty one on a Hyundai Sonata. There are backup plates
behind the attachment points, pre-tapped and with bolts lightly fastened in
place. The bolts seem to have no other function. I think the whole deal is
planned just for attaching a hitch, and I was quite surprised at what I saw.
SNIP

Hey Ed,

The bolts I mentioned in my earlier reply wouldn't appear at first
blush to "do anything" either, but in fact they hold the bumper on.
The "bumper brackets" (old term, eh?!?!) slide into the paper-work
errrr...sorry....the frame tubes, and are clamped in place by these
bolts. The appearance is that the bumper stuff looks like a backing
plate, but in fact has a more useful purpose. The trailer hitch
clamps the "frame" between itself and the bumper attach pieces.

Take care on the trip.

Brian Lawson.

"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I keep waiting for the day when Michigan rust ruins the integrity of my
Saturn SL1's
hitch. The rest of the car may be toast by then. It seems to be bolted
though the trunk
sheet metal but is working okay so far.

My latest loads.

http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/4x8_window.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/rohm_score.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/r...ation_work.jpg


Wes

That's a nice little utility trailer. I could use something like that. Right
now, all I'm doing it taking my son's furniture to college in a U-Haul. I
was supposed to be out of here today, but everything went haywire.
Fortunately, we don't have to be there until Thursday.

I kind a like it. Car can't pull much or have much of a tougue load. I'm thinking
100/1000 so the trailer weight is very important. With the tailgate off it weights a bit
over 400# 2000# rating.

It also stout enough to have brought home the column, knee and table of a bridgeport and
also a Clausing 6903 (12 x 36) lathe on separate trips.

It also seems really popular with other family members that have more capable tow
vehicals. Seems like brother and uncle use it more than I do.

What is your son studying towards?

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:37:51 -0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking, "Ed
Huntress" wrote,
The Prestone was sampled around 43 years ago, so the recipe may have
changed.

Antifreeze sold in California is required to have something bitter
added to make it taste bad. I don't know how well that works nor
about other localities.

"Brian Lawson" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 13:55:54 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:

SNIP

This hitch is a light-duty one on a Hyundai Sonata. There are backup
plates
behind the attachment points, pre-tapped and with bolts lightly fastened
in
place. The bolts seem to have no other function. I think the whole deal is
planned just for attaching a hitch, and I was quite surprised at what I
saw.
SNIP

Hey Ed,

The bolts I mentioned in my earlier reply wouldn't appear at first
blush to "do anything" either, but in fact they hold the bumper on.
The "bumper brackets" (old term, eh?!?!) slide into the paper-work
errrr...sorry....the frame tubes, and are clamped in place by these
bolts. The appearance is that the bumper stuff looks like a backing
plate, but in fact has a more useful purpose. The trailer hitch
clamps the "frame" between itself and the bumper attach pieces.

Aha. Yes, I can see where those forward extensions from the bumpers could be
the idea -- although, as you say, it doesn't look strong enough to stand up
to anything. The bolts came out awfully easy.

I just hope it handles my trailer. I have just under 200 pounds on the
tongue, and that's all I'm ready to chance with it.


Take care on the trip.

Brian Lawson.

Thanks, Brian.

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

I keep waiting for the day when Michigan rust ruins the integrity of my
Saturn SL1's
hitch. The rest of the car may be toast by then. It seems to be bolted
though the trunk
sheet metal but is working okay so far.

My latest loads.

http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/4x8_window.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/rcm/rohm_score.jpg
http://garage-machinist.com/usenet/r...ation_work.jpg


Wes

That's a nice little utility trailer. I could use something like that.
Right
now, all I'm doing it taking my son's furniture to college in a U-Haul. I
was supposed to be out of here today, but everything went haywire.
Fortunately, we don't have to be there until Thursday.

I kind a like it. Car can't pull much or have much of a tougue load. I'm
thinking
100/1000 so the trailer weight is very important. With the tailgate off
it weights a bit
over 400# 2000# rating.

It also stout enough to have brought home the column, knee and table of a
bridgeport and
also a Clausing 6903 (12 x 36) lathe on separate trips.

It also seems really popular with other family members that have more
capable tow
vehicals. Seems like brother and uncle use it more than I do.

What is your son studying towards?

Wes

A bachelor's in economics. He's heavy on the math, in preparation for
possible graduate work in econometrics. A junior this year, he's tutoring
calculus to the underclassmen.

--
Ed Huntress

"David Harmon" wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 10:37:51 -0400 in rec.crafts.metalworking, "Ed
Huntress" wrote,
The Prestone was sampled around 43 years ago, so the recipe may have
changed.

Antifreeze sold in California is required to have something bitter
added to make it taste bad. I don't know how well that works nor
about other localities.

That sounds like a smart idea.

--
Ed Huntress