Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

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Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

I have a few bayonets but I don't recognize that one.


Wes

On 2008-06-07, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

I have a few bayonets but I don't recognize that one.

Basically, this bayonet is very sturdy and I wanted to find out if I
can sharpen its blade so that it could be usable as a general purpose
knife, to keep close to me in my truck. Just in case.

Also, does it need to be wet sharpened or a regular bench grinder is
OK?

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Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

Sorry I don't know, looks old though.
Try asking in rec.knives or rec.guns.

Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom

On Jun 7, 7:54*pm, Ignoramus21192 ignoramus21...@NOSPAM.
21192.invalid wrote:
Basically, this bayonet is very sturdy and I wanted to find out if I
can sharpen its blade so that it could be usable as a general purpose
knife, to keep close to me in my truck. Just in case.

Depending on condition it could be worth $100 or so.

Also, does it need to be wet sharpened or a regular bench grinder is
OK?

I think they can be sharpened quite well with a fine single-cut file,
drawn lengthwise.

Iggy,

That one looks like the bunch of old WWII German bayonettes that my Dad
turned into some pretty decent butcher-knives. Mostly from Mauser 98's, Id
guess.

Flash




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Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

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On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:50:47 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Why no clear closeups of the sheath, Ig?


Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Tawm sells knotted wheels. gd&r

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On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:54:56 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

On 2008-06-07, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

I have a few bayonets but I don't recognize that one.

Basically, this bayonet is very sturdy and I wanted to find out if I
can sharpen its blade so that it could be usable as a general purpose
knife, to keep close to me in my truck. Just in case.

I'll bet the Chitown PD (you're up there somewhere, right?) love
things like that, especially if you conceal 'em. wink


Also, does it need to be wet sharpened or a regular bench grinder is
OK?

Now THAT is the most obvious troll I've seen you pull in a while,
Iggy. Get yourself a set of DMT diamond paddles. They're great for
this kind of thing.

http://tinyurl.com/6d45tb or similar. They'll last a lifetime.
I keep a 6" DMT 600 grit diamond plate in the kitchen for my pocket
and kitchen knives, shop bench planes, etc. The paddle kit stays with
me in the truck for sharpening whatever wherever.

Alas, you're married, or I'd tell you the girlfriend advantage.
(Sharpening their knives brings you soft and warm goodness.)

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On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

I think that this may be a diff. kind of m95 bayonet.

Here's another cool page

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Mann95.htm

and a picture

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Thanks a lot!

My bayonet has no markings, except possibly etchings on the back,
where there is some rust covering it. So it may even be counterfeit.

i


Tom

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On 2008-06-08, Larry Jaques novalidaddress@di wrote:
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:54:56 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

On 2008-06-07, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

I have a few bayonets but I don't recognize that one.

Basically, this bayonet is very sturdy and I wanted to find out if I
can sharpen its blade so that it could be usable as a general purpose
knife, to keep close to me in my truck. Just in case.

I'll bet the Chitown PD (you're up there somewhere, right?) love
things like that, especially if you conceal 'em. wink


Also, does it need to be wet sharpened or a regular bench grinder is
OK?

Now THAT is the most obvious troll I've seen you pull in a while,
Iggy. Get yourself a set of DMT diamond paddles. They're great for
this kind of thing.

http://tinyurl.com/6d45tb or similar. They'll last a lifetime.
I keep a 6" DMT 600 grit diamond plate in the kitchen for my pocket
and kitchen knives, shop bench planes, etc. The paddle kit stays with
me in the truck for sharpening whatever wherever.

I forgot that I had those paddles. Sorry. That is definitely a god
idea.

i

Alas, you're married, or I'd tell you the girlfriend advantage.
(Sharpening their knives brings you soft and warm goodness.)


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On 2008-06-07, Ignoramus21192 wrote:
Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

I think maybe an 8mm Mauser.

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Electro de-rusting would be nice if you did not have dissimilar
metals riveted together. Not sure with what you have.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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"Ignoramus21192" wrote in message
...
Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

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Iggy,
As mentioned before on this newsgroup (about 4 years ago), if the
inscription says "This End Toward Enemy", it is probably of Polish origin.

Ivan Vegvary

Ignoramus21192 wrote:

On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:

Ignoramus21192 wrote:


Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?


Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.


Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

I think that this may be a diff. kind of m95 bayonet.

Here's another cool page

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Mann95.htm

and a picture

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Thanks a lot!

My bayonet has no markings, except possibly etchings on the back,
where there is some rust covering it. So it may even be counterfeit.

i


Tom


So now you're an expert based on someone's generic description
of a M95 bayonet?
I think you'll find my description a bit more specific.
There were at least 4 variations on the M95 bayonet.

Tom

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

As mentioned before on this newsgroup (about 4 years ago), if the
inscription says "This End Toward Enemy", it is probably of Polish origin.

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.

On Jun 8, 2:12*am, Wes wrote:
And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.

General James Gavin was the US commander in Berlin right after the
war, and Marshall Zhukov was the Soviet commander. They met often and
became friendly, but Gavin reported that he was the only person who
could be around Zhukov without fearing for his life.

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:15:08 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

Yeah, it's missing the hook for your (generic) purse.


http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Ayup, that's her, alright. Now about the closeup of the sheath...

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On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:12:44 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, Wes
quickly quoth:

"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

As mentioned before on this newsgroup (about 4 years ago), if the
inscription says "This End Toward Enemy", it is probably of Polish origin.

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.

U.S. claymore mines had "This side toward enemy" on the nasty side.
What does this tell us?

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On 2008-06-08, Wes wrote:
"Ivan Vegvary" wrote:

As mentioned before on this newsgroup (about 4 years ago), if the
inscription says "This End Toward Enemy", it is probably of Polish origin.

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.

ROTFLMAO

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On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:

Ignoramus21192 wrote:


Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?


Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.


Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

I think that this may be a diff. kind of m95 bayonet.

Here's another cool page

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Mann95.htm

and a picture

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Thanks a lot!

My bayonet has no markings, except possibly etchings on the back,
where there is some rust covering it. So it may even be counterfeit.

i


Tom


So now you're an expert based on someone's generic description
of a M95 bayonet?
I think you'll find my description a bit more specific.
There were at least 4 variations on the M95 bayonet.

Tom... Good point.
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U.S. claymore mines had "This side toward enemy" on the nasty side.
What does this tell us?

It wasn't so obvious which side was which. If you knew a little about
shaped charges the concave side made sense outward.

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:05:12 +1200, Tom
wrote:

Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom


indeed.

I thought it was the Mexican M1899 Remington Arms Contract Bayonet,
but the mounted swivel had me confused for a bit.

thats a fairly rare bayonet, at least in the western states btw..you
may wish to find something else to use as a work knife.

Bayonets generally make ****ty work knives, both because of their lack
of edge holding ability..materials/heat treated for unbreakability
(lowest bidder...sigh) and the blade design tends to be too fat for
decent edge holding...unless you thin the edge way the **** back.

swedes are better knives, but then they tend to be a bit too thin. Ive
seen a couple broken ones over the years.

Sell it and buy a half dozen new work knives



Gunner

at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:15:08 -0500, Ignoramus21192
wrote:

On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

I think that this may be a diff. kind of m95 bayonet.

Here's another cool page

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/Mann95.htm

and a picture

http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Thanks a lot!

My bayonet has no markings, except possibly etchings on the back,
where there is some rust covering it. So it may even be counterfeit.

i


Tom


iggy..Keep in mind that even within a rifle series such as m95..there
were often many differences in bayonet hardware.. m95s issued to the
Kriegsmarine might be different in some spec..such as blade length or
grip material, than one issued to the Medical Corps etc etc

Such differences keep bayonet collectors on their toes for a life
time.


gunner

at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:01:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:15:08 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

Yeah, it's missing the hook for your (generic) purse.


that hook is called a 'blade breaker' for various reasons.


http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Ayup, that's her, alright. Now about the closeup of the sheath...

not to mention the frog......


,g

Gunner


at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
wrote:

U.S. claymore mines had "This side toward enemy" on the nasty side.
What does this tell us?

It wasn't so obvious which side was which. If you knew a little about
shaped charges the concave side made sense outward.


in the dark...putting out a Claymore...leave the clacker unhooked, but
string out the wire behind you as a way to find your way back to your
hole.

unfold the legs, and hold the claymore against your chest. if it
rocked..that was the Bad Side. If it fit the curve of your chest, it
was the Good Side..make sure the Bad side stayed pointed away when you
stabbed the legs into the ground.



It should be noted that the Good Side is nearly as deadly as the Bad
Side, if placed too close to your hole when you squeeze the clacker.



Gunner

at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Jun 8, 2:12 am, Wes wrote:

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.


General James Gavin was the US commander in Berlin right after the
war, and Marshall Zhukov was the Soviet commander. They met often and
became friendly, but Gavin reported that he was the only person who
could be around Zhukov without fearing for his life.

So what was the real issue? Was Zhukov so Terrible, or
people around to easy to be scared or may be Gavin was
megalomaniac?

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:18:01 -0700, Zayonc wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Jun 8, 2:12 am, Wes wrote:

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.


General James Gavin was the US commander in Berlin right after the
war, and Marshall Zhukov was the Soviet commander. They met often and
became friendly, but Gavin reported that he was the only person who
could be around Zhukov without fearing for his life.

So what was the real issue? Was Zhukov so Terrible, or
people around to easy to be scared or may be Gavin was
megalomaniac?


the russian military had little regard for individual soldiers lives.
one could be executed, purged etc for simply being in view when a
superior woke up with a hangover. Unless you had what is called a
"rabbi' in western terms...or were of equivelent rank or otherwise
protected in some fashion...there was no safety for you.

Gavin was protected because he was both an equal and a representative
of an ally govenment.


You are aware of why KGB troops trailed behind regular russian troops
are you not? They usually were a heavy machine gun organization and
their job was to shoot any Russian soldier or soldier(s) who didnt
give their all in a charge, or even hesitated, let along started to
fall back.

The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.

Gunner

at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

On Jun 9, 2:57 am, Gunner Asch wrote:
...
The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.
Gunner

From the paperback edition, pages 67-8:

"Inside the perimeter of the newly arrived Soviet 64th Division...
morale was particularly bad."
....
"With the division on the verge of dissolution before ever seeing
combat, its commanding officer acted decisively to curb the epidemic."
....
"His harangue ended, the colonel moved purposely to the long lines of
massed soldiers. A pistol in his right hand, he turned at the end of
the first row and began counting in a loud voice: "One, two, three,
four." As he reached the tenth man, he wheeled and shot him in the
head. As the victim crumpled to the ground, the colonel picked up the
count again: "One, two, three..." At ten, he shot another man dead and
continued his dreadful monologue: "One, two..." No one bolted."
....
"When the last bullet in the revolver thudded into a man's brain, the
commander shoved the pistol back in its holster and walked away."

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:56:42 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner Asch quickly quoth:

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:01:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:15:08 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

Yeah, it's missing the hook for your (generic) purse.


that hook is called a 'blade breaker' for various reasons.

That sure beats my purse theory all to hell, doesn't it? bseg

Just hearing the name taught me something new about fighting. That's
always good.

It'd surely break another hardened steel bayonet or thin sword off,
wouldn't it? I wouldn't want to try to catch/parry a sword wth a
slow, heavy, awkward rifle, though. Eek!

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the world who are causing all the trouble --Anonymous

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:05:12 +1200, Tom
wrote:


Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Bayonets generally make ****ty work knives, both because of their lack
of edge holding ability..materials/heat treated for unbreakability
(lowest bidder...sigh) and the blade design tends to be too fat for
decent edge holding...unless you thin the edge way the **** back.

swedes are better knives, but then they tend to be a bit too thin. Ive
seen a couple broken ones over the years.

Sell it and buy a half dozen new work knives



Gunner

X2 on the buy some real knives.

Bayonets. Too thick to cut with, too long to keep in control, too
heavy to pack around all the time, and not strong enough to make a
decent pry bar.

They work good for their intended purpose, though, which is to provide
a last ditch pokey thing on the end of a shooty thing! :-)

Go to a commercial butchers supply outfit and buy a couple plastic
handled meat ctting blades, of a shape and size that suits your needs.

Cheers
Trevor Jones

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008 04:31:55 -0700 (PDT), Jim Wilkins
wrote:

On Jun 9, 2:57 am, Gunner Asch wrote:
...
The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.
Gunner

From the paperback edition, pages 67-8:

"Inside the perimeter of the newly arrived Soviet 64th Division...
morale was particularly bad."
...
"With the division on the verge of dissolution before ever seeing
combat, its commanding officer acted decisively to curb the epidemic."
...
"His harangue ended, the colonel moved purposely to the long lines of
massed soldiers. A pistol in his right hand, he turned at the end of
the first row and began counting in a loud voice: "One, two, three,
four." As he reached the tenth man, he wheeled and shot him in the
head. As the victim crumpled to the ground, the colonel picked up the
count again: "One, two, three..." At ten, he shot another man dead and
continued his dreadful monologue: "One, two..." No one bolted."
...
"When the last bullet in the revolver thudded into a man's brain, the
commander shoved the pistol back in its holster and walked away."



the term 'decimated' derives from the killing of every 10th man, both
of your own for various reasons, usualy group punishment, and as a
warning to prisoners etc.


Gunner

at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:56:42 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner Asch quickly quoth:

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 06:01:37 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 21:15:08 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,
Ignoramus21192 quickly quoth:

On 2008-06-08, Tom wrote:
Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom this is great. I think that your guess may be close, but it may be
not exactly?

Here's the pic:

http://www.geocities.com/alancook.geo/m95bayonet.jpg

its hand guard is a little different.

Yeah, it's missing the hook for your (generic) purse.


that hook is called a 'blade breaker' for various reasons.


http://www.sunblest.net/gun/img/Mann95bayo1.jpg

this matches my bayonet perfectly!!!!

Ayup, that's her, alright. Now about the closeup of the sheath...

not to mention the frog......
,g

Uh, yeah. That, too. g Make that 2 things I've learned already
today. Hmm, _these_ guys call 'em sheaths:
http://www.bladesnewold.com/MilitaryBayonets.html


at yoyodyne they were all veterans of the psychic wars
exiled from the eighth dimension where the winds of limbo roar"
* * * * * * *mariposa rand mair theal

What's this ****, mon? Quoting troll limericks now, are we? It's bad
enough that you continually repost their crap by replying to them,
giving them reason to come back. sigh

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On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:57:06 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner Asch quickly quoth:

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:18:01 -0700, Zayonc wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Jun 8, 2:12 am, Wes wrote:

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.


General James Gavin was the US commander in Berlin right after the
war, and Marshall Zhukov was the Soviet commander. They met often and
became friendly, but Gavin reported that he was the only person who
could be around Zhukov without fearing for his life.

So what was the real issue? Was Zhukov so Terrible, or
people around to easy to be scared or may be Gavin was
megalomaniac?


the russian military had little regard for individual soldiers lives.
one could be executed, purged etc for simply being in view when a
superior woke up with a hangover. Unless you had what is called a
"rabbi' in western terms...or were of equivelent rank or otherwise
protected in some fashion...there was no safety for you.

Gavin was protected because he was both an equal and a representative
of an ally govenment.


You are aware of why KGB troops trailed behind regular russian troops
are you not? They usually were a heavy machine gun organization and
their job was to shoot any Russian soldier or soldier(s) who didnt
give their all in a charge, or even hesitated, let along started to
fall back.

Damn, Gunner, you're 3 for 3 today.


The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.

That was an EXCELLENT movie! (Just added to my Netflix queue.)


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On 2008-06-09, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 13:05:12 +1200, Tom
wrote:

Ignoramus21192 wrote:

Anyone knows what gun is this bayonet for?

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Bayonet/

Also, there is some sort of etching on the rear of the handle, covered
by rust. Is there some way to clean off rust without destroying
etching?

Austro=Hungarian Mannlicher Carbine,
Bajonett M95, NCO's Pattern for Stutzen M95.

Tom


indeed.

I thought it was the Mexican M1899 Remington Arms Contract Bayonet,
but the mounted swivel had me confused for a bit.

thats a fairly rare bayonet, at least in the western states btw..you
may wish to find something else to use as a work knife.

Bayonets generally make ****ty work knives, both because of their lack
of edge holding ability..materials/heat treated for unbreakability
(lowest bidder...sigh) and the blade design tends to be too fat for
decent edge holding...unless you thin the edge way the **** back.

swedes are better knives, but then they tend to be a bit too thin. Ive
seen a couple broken ones over the years.

Sell it and buy a half dozen new work knives

OK... Good points on the blade etc. I just got myself a buck knife
instead, that seems to actually be nicely made and has a more
practical shape and dimensions.

i

Ayup, that's her, alright. *Now about the closeup of the sheath...

not to mention the frog......

Uh, yeah. That, too. g Make that 2 things I've learned already
today. *Hmm, _these_ guys call 'em sheaths:http://www.bladesnewold.com/MilitaryBayonets.html

The frog is the leather piece that attaches the sheath to the belt.

Larry Jaques wrote:
Ayup, that's her, alright. Now about the closeup of the sheath...
not to mention the frog......
,g

Uh, yeah. That, too. g Make that 2 things I've learned already
today. Hmm, _these_ guys call 'em sheaths:
http://www.bladesnewold.com/MilitaryBayonets.html



A "sheath" is the item that actually covers the blade. The "frog" is the
piece that allows you to attach the sheath to a belt or other object.
Two separate parts.

If you look at newer bayonets the blade is also made to interlock with
the sheath and form a wire cutter.

--
Steve W.

On 2008-06-09, Steve W. wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
Ayup, that's her, alright. Now about the closeup of the sheath...
not to mention the frog......
,g

Uh, yeah. That, too. g Make that 2 things I've learned already
today. Hmm, _these_ guys call 'em sheaths:
http://www.bladesnewold.com/MilitaryBayonets.html



A "sheath" is the item that actually covers the blade. The "frog" is the
piece that allows you to attach the sheath to a belt or other object.
Two separate parts.

If you look at newer bayonets the blade is also made to interlock with
the sheath and form a wire cutter.


That's what my AK bayonet does, which is very nifty. Also, this
implies a certain hardness of the steel involved (hard enough to cut
steel wire).

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On Jun 9, 9:02*am, Larry Jaques wrote:
The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.

That was an EXCELLENT movie! (Just added to my Netflix queue.)

BTW, the book is a very detailed recontruction of actual events, not a
novel.

Ignoramus25756 wrote:
On 2008-06-09, Steve W. wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
Ayup, that's her, alright. Now about the closeup of the sheath...
not to mention the frog......
,g
Uh, yeah. That, too. g Make that 2 things I've learned already
today. Hmm, _these_ guys call 'em sheaths:
http://www.bladesnewold.com/MilitaryBayonets.html


A "sheath" is the item that actually covers the blade. The "frog" is the
piece that allows you to attach the sheath to a belt or other object.
Two separate parts.

If you look at newer bayonets the blade is also made to interlock with
the sheath and form a wire cutter.


That's what my AK bayonet does, which is very nifty. Also, this
implies a certain hardness of the steel involved (hard enough to cut
steel wire).


The steel is hardened enough for it to shear the soft steel wire.

--
Steve W.

On 2008-06-09, Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:02•£Äam, Larry Jaques wrote:
The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.

That was an EXCELLENT movie! (Just added to my Netflix queue.)

BTW, the book is a very detailed recontruction of actual events, not a
novel.

I loved both the book as well as the movie, which I thought was
surprisingly historically accurate.

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