On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 23:57:06 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm,
Gunner Asch quickly quoth:

On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 21:18:01 -0700, Zayonc wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

On Jun 8, 2:12 am, Wes wrote:

And if it says the KGB troops are behind you, keep going forward, it is soviet.


General James Gavin was the US commander in Berlin right after the
war, and Marshall Zhukov was the Soviet commander. They met often and
became friendly, but Gavin reported that he was the only person who
could be around Zhukov without fearing for his life.

So what was the real issue? Was Zhukov so Terrible, or
people around to easy to be scared or may be Gavin was
megalomaniac?


the russian military had little regard for individual soldiers lives.
one could be executed, purged etc for simply being in view when a
superior woke up with a hangover. Unless you had what is called a
"rabbi' in western terms...or were of equivelent rank or otherwise
protected in some fashion...there was no safety for you.

Gavin was protected because he was both an equal and a representative
of an ally govenment.


You are aware of why KGB troops trailed behind regular russian troops
are you not? They usually were a heavy machine gun organization and
their job was to shoot any Russian soldier or soldier(s) who didnt
give their all in a charge, or even hesitated, let along started to
fall back.

Damn, Gunner, you're 3 for 3 today.


The movie Enemy at the Gates showed this rather well.

That was an EXCELLENT movie! (Just added to my Netflix queue.)


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