I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.

Hang it up and admire it. Trying to rebuild it is like trying to restore a
55 year old woman to her former 19 year old glory. All the stuff is there,
you just can't get it back in the original configuration due to gravity,
rust, use, overuse, wear, tear, and drama.

Go buy a top of the line pellet gun at somewhere besides Walmart. Walmart
doesn't have top of the line pellet guns because no one will pay $500 for
one. They are available, they are just $500 now.

HTH

Steve

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:28:36 -0700, Steve B wrote:

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.

Hang it up and admire it. Trying to rebuild it is like trying to restore a
55 year old woman to her former 19 year old glory. All the stuff is there,
you just can't get it back in the original configuration due to gravity,
rust, use, overuse, wear, tear, and drama.

Go buy a top of the line pellet gun at somewhere besides Walmart. Walmart
doesn't have top of the line pellet guns because no one will pay $500 for
one. They are available, they are just $500 now.

I have a Gamo 1000 pellet gun, it cost me about 200 dollars (IIRC), it
is a perfect tack driver. An unbelievably accurate air rifle.

i

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.


I've had mine for almost 40 years. It's been a while since I've taken it apart. As I
recall there's a few O rings to replace. I think I still have the exploded view with part
numbers around somewhere. If I find it I'll let you know.

What has your reply got to do with the post?????

--

Clif

"Ignoramus12615" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:28:36 -0700, Steve B
wrote:

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to
walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a
real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.

Hang it up and admire it. Trying to rebuild it is like trying to restore
a
55 year old woman to her former 19 year old glory. All the stuff is
there,
you just can't get it back in the original configuration due to gravity,
rust, use, overuse, wear, tear, and drama.

Go buy a top of the line pellet gun at somewhere besides Walmart.
Walmart
doesn't have top of the line pellet guns because no one will pay $500 for
one. They are available, they are just $500 now.

I have a Gamo 1000 pellet gun, it cost me about 200 dollars (IIRC), it
is a perfect tack driver. An unbelievably accurate air rifle.

i

"Clif Holland" wrote in message
news:6ik%f.5426$XI6.2101@trnddc05...
What has your reply got to do with the post?????

What has your top posted drivel got to do with anything?

Steve

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:28:36 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:


"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.

Hang it up and admire it. Trying to rebuild it is like trying to restore a
55 year old woman to her former 19 year old glory. All the stuff is there,
you just can't get it back in the original configuration due to gravity,
rust, use, overuse, wear, tear, and drama.

Go buy a top of the line pellet gun at somewhere besides Walmart. Walmart
doesn't have top of the line pellet guns because no one will pay $500 for
one. They are available, they are just $500 now.

HTH

Steve

Match-grade air rifles are that pricey, but an air rifle having very
acceptable performance far superior to the rifles of yesteryear can be
had for about $200. Ig mentioned his Gamo. They make good air
rifles, definitely a cut or three above Crossman. I selected the
RWS Diana model 34 as "best value in good-enough air rifle" when I
was shopping two or three years ago. It's a one-pump break-barrel
in .22 that is nearly as accurate as my good old had-it-50-years
bolt-action clip-fed .22 rimfire carbine at ranges of 150 feet or
less. At one-pump muzzle velocity of about 800 fps in .22 it
definitely has ample power to drop varmints at ranges up to 150
feet.

I chose .22 because it's accurate out to the ranges I need for garden
defense, is in the dirt shortly thereafter -- gotta think about
what's behind the target too ya know. I use it to zap
garden-eatin' rabbits, with a low-power inexpensive Tasco scope
that is designed to cope with the unique push-pull recoil profile of
modern spring-powered air rifles. The Tasco is no Unertl but
it's really quite decent for a "consumer grade" scope, absolutely
sufficient for my purpose. Optics are as sharp as necessary,
light-gathering power is sufficient to use until after civil twilight,
it was easy to zero in and it has stayed that way over a couple of
years of occasional use.

I don't need magnification, but having sight picture focussed at
infinity is a great help for my older eyes. With scope or iron
sights, depending on your eyeballs, if your bird feeder is 100 ft or
less distant you should be able to consistently drop squirrels with
head shots. Those are best if any kids might see you doing it. The
squirrel just drops like a rock, no flopping or suffering. My
neighbor kids (and their gentle parents) thought it "right" when I
shot rabbits that ate the pretty flowers they enjoyed. Little girls
love to pick flowers, big girls do too. They'd even call me when
they saw a rabbit in Mary's garden out their back window. "Don, grab
your rifle, there's a rabbit in Mary's garden, not far from the Monet
arch!" They would not have been so sanguine about witnessing the
miserable struggles of an obviously-frantic wounded critter I'd
then have to go dispatch with a vertical shovel-stroke.

Rabbits shot with the Model 34 jump about 6" straight up and come
back down stone dead with hardly a quiver: squeeze off one round, set
rifle down and grab a shovel to aid completion of nature's cycle as
steward of the land: bad rabbit eats flowers, pow, dead rabbit
feeds new flowers. We all know PhD's for whom that's a bit
deep, but it makes perfect sense to the little girls I've known and
most of the big girls as well. The key is to effect a clean kill
every time.

When I first got the model 34 a couple of years ago, rabbit 1 was at
the far end of the garden about 150 feet. I held a bit high like I
always had with my old Benjamin after 10 pumps, squeezed one off.
Missed -- no suprise -- but then, thru the scope, I saw a hole in a
gladiolus leaf that was dead center in the sight picture I recalled
from when the rifle had popped. Hello! Rabbit1 was still
there, motionless, apparently hadn't heard or been worried about the
tic in the leaf just behind it from the subsonic pellet. Cool! Broke
barrel to pump and cock, reloaded, held right on Bre'r Rabbit,
squeezed. Up 6, down dead, rabbit1 was flowerfood waiting to be
planted which was accomplished forthwith.

Then Bre'r Owl moved into the neighborhood, so I don't get to shoot
hardly any rabbits anymore. Oh well, whatever works.

A friend of mine says he has shot maurauding raccoons with his model
34 at 75 feet. Raccoons are tough critters. He'd have to have shot
Bre'r Coon right thru they eye to drop him with an air rifle, probably
what he did. He is competent with rifle and shotgun.

The Model 34 is a bit heavy for enjoyable carrying for long periods as
in field plinking, but that weight definitely aids accuracy for
occasional varmint-dropping or target shooting. It's not as heavy
as a match .22 rimfire but noticably heavier than a .22 rimfire
carbine or an older no-plastic Crossman.

On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 04:18:10 GMT, "Clif Holland"
wrote:

What has your reply got to do with the post?????

Top posting isn't the custom here, Cliff. Not saying it's
wrong, but it isn't the custom in this NG and it seems to annoy some
readers.

Ig's reply is en pointe because it cites an example of a modern air
rifle considerably more performant than a Crossman that is available
for considerably less than $500.

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.

It doesn't seem like anyone is interested. I am. I have a thrice-rebuilt
760 myself.

There's no magic to it. A handful of 0-rings and a couple of smears of
grease is about all it takes to get it back to as-new performance. Mine
needed the pin re-done on the pump piston, too, but that was solved by
sleeving the hole with a bronze bushing.

The 760 isn't a 'real' air gun by today's standards, but it was a dandy
little boy-toy, and they last almost forever.

LLoyd

wayne mak wrote:

I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to
walmart to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal
barrol. I like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but
its a real dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is
it just a piece of my past.

Crosman has a list of service centers on their Web site
http://www.crosman.com. They also list the order numbers for the parts
diagrams--the design has gone through some changes so make sure you get the
right one.

Odds are that it just needs some new seals.

Before you put money into fixing it though, you might want to take a look at
the compasseco http://www.compasseco.com, beeman http://www.beeman.com,
and Cobra http://www.airgunsbbguns.com sites and see what's
available--air rifle technology has made massive strides in the past 40
years.

You can get into an older design barrel-cocking El Gamo for about the same
price as one of the toys from Wal-Mart, or if you've reached a point in
life where you can afford an expensive toy you might want to look into
"last year's model" target guns from Feinwerkbau and Anschutz (since air
rifle became an Olympic event it has become a _very_ competitive market).

Don't be too put off by plastic stocks by the way--they work fine and most
military rifles these days are so equipped because they're lighter,
stronger, require less maintenance, and are cheaper than wood. Of course
the plastic the military uses is likely a bit different from that that you
find on a cheap airgun.

Many years ago I indulged myself in a Feinwerkbau 300S, which is quite a
remarkable piece of hardware. Quite accurate enough to pick wasps off a
nest.


--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

wayne mak wrote:

I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.

Dead easy to do, and there are a dozen or so guys out there that make a
living selling parts just for the old airguns.

The old wood and metal crosmans are pretty sweet bits of kit, for what
the were.

Most of the seals are just common O rings, with a couple odd bits that
you might have to deal with a parts supplier for. Those parts would be
the exaust seal, the seal in the air chamber, and the pump cup seal.

A google search for Crosman airgun parts will find many souces, or you
can try the various links from
http://www.airguns.net/classifieds/classifieds.html as a good start.

Chances are pretty good that you can find someone to sell you a
complete kit of parts for about $20, maybe less.

Crosman will sell you the parts as well, though they tend to want to
swap out the old design parts(metal ones) for the new design parts
(plastic) sometimes. They generally want you too order by part number.
Most of the aftermarket guys have their stuff arranged such that they
can deal with the various changes made in production, and have kits made
up as a package.

www.crosman.com has downloadable schematics with part numbers. You will
have to download quite a few of them and examine them fairly carefully
to determine wich one is correct for the gun you have, wish is fairly
early production, and somewhat desireable to the Crosman
collectors/shooters.

Cheers
Trevor Jones
(with about 80 pounds of various aiguns, mostly Crosman)

wayne mak wrote:
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.

Wayne
Parallel paths here. I've had a Cometa pelletgun since I was about
9 (Christmas present). Rediscovered it recently and am about to start
rebuilding it. In the meantime, I stopped by the local Sports Authority
store and they had a Benjamin Legacy 1000X on clearance for $105. 100
fps, scope,all American-made, wood stock, not much plastic. Full-size
gun with lots of punch. I've enjoyed it a lot in the month I've had it,
sitting on the deck and making holes in tin cans and paper targets. No
rabbits around here, and the wife won't let me shoot the squirrels, but
crows and starlings are fair game. And if that noisy min-pin behind me
wanders into my yard again .... j/k

Rebuild your Crossman. Some of the links others offered will give
you some ideas on tuning it, much of which lends itself to lathe work.
Tuning results in higher velocity and lower recoil. Enjoy the
project, as I am looking forward to mine.

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...

I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.


It doesn't seem like anyone is interested. I am. I have a thrice-rebuilt
760 myself.

There's no magic to it. A handful of 0-rings and a couple of smears of
grease is about all it takes to get it back to as-new performance. Mine
needed the pin re-done on the pump piston, too, but that was solved by
sleeving the hole with a bronze bushing.

The 760 isn't a 'real' air gun by today's standards, but it was a dandy
little boy-toy, and they last almost forever.

Good post Lloyd, thanks for the information.

Bob

"wayne mak" wrote in message
...
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I
like the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real
dud these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a
piece of my past.

Here is one place to check out,

I found this on the Crosman website.

PELLET GUN REPAIR
RICK LANDRITH
503 TOWN NORTH DR.
ARLINGTON, TX 76011
Phone: 817-275-7905
UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE ONLY ACCEPTING REPAIRS ON BENJAMIN MODELS


I have bought parts from him last year, I think that it was.

He was undergoing cancer treatments at the time.

I know that Crosman or Daisy sold him all the old series obosolete parts
that they had. They are carrying parts for the current models only.

I just can not remember which company that it was at the moment.

He did have some used parts for some models.

Hope that this helps you some.

Harvey

On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 19:11:28 -0400, "wayne mak"
wrote:

I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.

There is an air rifle store in south Minneapolis, on Hiawatha or
Minnehaha, that has parts for old air rifles. I rebuilt my 55 year
old Benjamin, works great now. My son has it

"MetalHead" wrote in message
...
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
There's no magic to it. A handful of 0-rings and a couple of smears of
grease is about all it takes to get it back to as-new performance.

Good post Lloyd, thanks for the information.

Bob

I did fail to mention that there are two little "cup" type seals in there.
I got them literally off the shelf from a local guy that rebuilds airguns.

LLoyd

wayne mak wrote:
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.

Wayne,

Sounds like you have the original model with the wood stock, gold bolt,
and non-grooved receiver. It's a real classic - keep it forever. I
bought mine back in the late 1960s for about $15, from Sears. Counted
for a lot of squirrels and blackbirds in it's time.

Yes, they are rebuildable. Look up "Bryan and Sons", I believe they
will sell you the parts or do the rebuild for you. They specialize in
old Crosman guns.

Martin

funkychateau wrote:
wayne mak wrote:
I know its not a real gun but it helps keep the pests out of the bird
feeder, I have a Crossman 760 from when I was just a little kid I am now
over 40 and it just doesn't have power (for a pellet gun) I went to walmart
to buy a new one but they are just a plastic POS with a metal barrol. I like
the heavy solid feel my old all metal and wood 760 has but its a real dud
these days. Can these things be brought back to live or is it just a piece
of my past.

Wayne,

Sounds like you have the original model with the wood stock, gold bolt,
and non-grooved receiver. It's a real classic - keep it forever. I
bought mine back in the late 1960s for about $15, from Sears. Counted
for a lot of squirrels and blackbirds in it's time.

Yes, they are rebuildable. Look up "Bryan and Sons", I believe they
will sell you the parts or do the rebuild for you. They specialize in
old Crosman guns.

Martin

Sorry, that should have been "Bryan and Associates". The url is:
http://www.bryanandac.com/

funkychateau wrote:
Counted
for a lot of squirrels and blackbirds in it's time.

Thirty yards away, at the top of an old cottonwood, he didn't flinch or
jerk, didn't raise his wings, he didn't even slump so much as teeter off
the branch and rush down. Right in the eye.

I still think about that crow and feel bad, and about that 760--and feel
good.

er
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Try the Benjamin 22 cal. air rifles... Not real expensive and plenty
acurate for keeping stuff out of bird feeders...

--


Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
(908) 542-0244
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I agree. I bought a Benjamin Legacy 1000X with scope last month for $105
on sale/clearance. Lot of gun for the money, very accurate.

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Try the Benjamin 22 cal. air rifles... Not real expensive and plenty
acurate for keeping stuff out of bird feeders...

Rex B wrote:
I agree. I bought a Benjamin Legacy 1000X with scope last month for $105
on sale/clearance. Lot of gun for the money, very accurate.

Oh, and it's the only airgun that is 100% US-made

Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Try the Benjamin 22 cal. air rifles... Not real expensive and plenty
acurate for keeping stuff out of bird feeders...