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Have found lots of info on net. Pellet stoves seem much more convient
than wood but I have 60 acres of mixed trees oak and pine. some
stoves burn corn and also pellets. I will have chain saw, tractor,
and plan to buy a splitter. I was wondering if anyone knew of a stove
that would burn wood chips like a pellet stove? then I chould just get
a chipper and not have to buy fuel.
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Would wood chips be hard to dry out? All the largish piles I see around
here are either very green, or have an awful lot of decomposition going
on and steaming etc.

-Kevin

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Most wood chippers will not handle logs. If you only chipped the small
stuff, they'd have to be dried before you put them in the stove. It would
take so much time and effort that it wouldn't be worth the benefit.

uriah wrote in message ...
Have found lots of info on net. Pellet stoves seem much more convient
than wood but I have 60 acres of mixed trees oak and pine. some
stoves burn corn and also pellets. I will have chain saw, tractor,
and plan to buy a splitter. I was wondering if anyone knew of a stove
that would burn wood chips like a pellet stove? then I chould just get
a chipper and not have to buy fuel.



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Bob wrote:
Most wood chippers will not handle logs. If you only chipped the small
stuff, they'd have to be dried before you put them in the stove. It would
take so much time and effort that it wouldn't be worth the benefit.

uriah wrote in message ...

Have found lots of info on net. Pellet stoves seem much more convient
than wood but I have 60 acres of mixed trees oak and pine. some
stoves burn corn and also pellets. I will have chain saw, tractor,
and plan to buy a splitter. I was wondering if anyone knew of a stove
that would burn wood chips like a pellet stove? then I chould just get
a chipper and not have to buy fuel.




Not the home variety chipper, but the one the tree service had took
those 18 inch dia pine trees and ate them link butter, instant mulch.

Now if I could just win the lottery and but all those neat toys.

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I have a 8hp chipper. its at best a mixed bag kinda purchase.

its very hard to chip dried wood. my machine will take 4 inch branches.
but with dried stuff even a 3 will tend to be tough and perhaps stall
the machine plus its rough feeding in the branches, arms ache from
vibration. running it is DIRTY and NOISEY.

I wanted a chipper since I was a kid, spent 800 bucks and have come
close to selling it.

Once you chip the wood it decomposes fast, and must be spread out or it
will produce alcohol and can catch on fire! a real hazard!

I think the US should go to biomass ethyl alcohol for running cars, and
tell the arabs to get lost!



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I have a 8hp chipper. its at best a mixed bag kinda purchase.

its very hard to chip dried wood. my machine will take 4 inch branches.
but with dried stuff even a 3 will tend to be tough and perhaps stall
the machine plus its rough feeding in the branches, arms ache from
vibration. running it is DIRTY and NOISEY.

I wanted a chipper since I was a kid, spent 800 bucks and have come
close to selling it.


I thought I was the only one. I got an 8hp for $125. Sharpened the leaf
blade and the two chipper blocks. Bought four chipper block screws to the
tune of $4 each, freed up the swinging claws that were rusted in one spot,
put in a new plug, and thought I had a great buy. I put several maple
trimmings in it and it ate them so fast I hardly had time to blink. The
chips were nowhere to be found!. I guess it just turned them into sawdust.
The bare dirt stripe under the chute convinced me I should not put my foot
there, nor try to shoot the chips onto the grass anymore. I tried some 1"
limbs from last year, and the vibration and whipping I got was less than a
pleasure. If the limbs are green, it goes right through, no problem. If they
are cured, forget it. Mine is advertised to take 3", but that is
questionable, and they would have to be green. I have yet to try it though.


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On a large scale, I don't think ethyl alcohol is a viable alternative fuel
because of the manufacturing costs involved. I think that hydrogen is our
best option.

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I have a 8hp chipper. its at best a mixed bag kinda purchase.

its very hard to chip dried wood. my machine will take 4 inch branches.
but with dried stuff even a 3 will tend to be tough and perhaps stall
the machine plus its rough feeding in the branches, arms ache from
vibration. running it is DIRTY and NOISEY.

I wanted a chipper since I was a kid, spent 800 bucks and have come
close to selling it.

Once you chip the wood it decomposes fast, and must be spread out or it
will produce alcohol and can catch on fire! a real hazard!

I think the US should go to biomass ethyl alcohol for running cars, and
tell the arabs to get lost!



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If he bought a big chipper like that, it would cost him more than ten
lifetimes worth of pellets.

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Bob wrote:
Most wood chippers will not handle logs. If you only chipped the small
stuff, they'd have to be dried before you put them in the stove. It

would
take so much time and effort that it wouldn't be worth the benefit.

uriah wrote in message

...

Have found lots of info on net. Pellet stoves seem much more convient
than wood but I have 60 acres of mixed trees oak and pine. some
stoves burn corn and also pellets. I will have chain saw, tractor,
and plan to buy a splitter. I was wondering if anyone knew of a stove
that would burn wood chips like a pellet stove? then I chould just get
a chipper and not have to buy fuel.




Not the home variety chipper, but the one the tree service had took
those 18 inch dia pine trees and ate them link butter, instant mulch.

Now if I could just win the lottery and but all those neat toys.



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I bought the 8hp and cut down 5 large trees, at a home I was rehabbing
to sell. The cost of the chipper was a little less than renting a huge
one that would of been a hassle getting on the property. Being a new
design it would be hard to hurt oneself, with long chutes so you cant
touch moving parts. The remaining danger would be clothes getting stuck
in somethiung being pulled thru and choking the operator.

dry wood is a absolute nightmare whipping and vibrating.

I probably should sell it, since I HATE using it.

As to the cost of alcohol from biomass, sure it would be costly. but
whats the cost of meddling in the mid east? Iraq war?

If we kept our nose out of their business theym probably wouldnt care
about the US.

Brazils economy largely ruuns on ethane, we can do it too!

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Bob wrote:
On a large scale, I don't think ethyl alcohol is a viable alternative
fuel because of the manufacturing costs involved. I think that
hydrogen is our best option.


Hydrogen. Sounds good until you ask the next question: "Where do we get
Hydrogen?"

The answer for the chemically-challenged is: Oil.




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Hydrogen. Sounds good until you ask the next question: "Where do we get

Hydrogen?"

The answer for the chemically-challenged is: Oil.


Or nuclear, which has its own set of serious issues. Just ask anyone
who USED to live in that area of russia that got contaminated

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If someone were not so chemically-challenged or was not up on today's
technology, another answer would be water.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...gen_from_Water

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
On a large scale, I don't think ethyl alcohol is a viable alternative
fuel because of the manufacturing costs involved. I think that
hydrogen is our best option.


Hydrogen. Sounds good until you ask the next question: "Where do we get
Hydrogen?"

The answer for the chemically-challenged is: Oil.




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Default any such thing wood chip pellet stove?

I believe all of the wood pellet stoves use the same type of wood
pellets for their fuel. The pellets only have a 7% moisture content. I
would find it hard to believe you could get your wood chips that dry.
Plus free of the creasote.

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"Bob" wrote in message
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If someone were not so chemically-challenged or was not up on today's
technology, another answer would be water.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...gen_from_Water

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
On a large scale, I don't think ethyl alcohol is a viable alternative
fuel because of the manufacturing costs involved. I think that
hydrogen is our best option.


Hydrogen. Sounds good until you ask the next question: "Where do we get
Hydrogen?"

The answer for the chemically-challenged is: Oil.


Generating that much electricity is the problem. If not coal, then it will
be steam-methane. Neither sustainable. If we could get that fusion thing
down pat, without use of tritium, maybe we could fill these coal pits back
in.


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Read this:
http://www.airproducts.com/Products/...ogenBasics.htm

"Shoebox Chevy" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in message
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If someone were not so chemically-challenged or was not up on today's
technology, another answer would be water.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...gen_from_Water

"HeyBub" wrote in message
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Bob wrote:
On a large scale, I don't think ethyl alcohol is a viable

alternative
fuel because of the manufacturing costs involved. I think that
hydrogen is our best option.


Hydrogen. Sounds good until you ask the next question: "Where do we

get
Hydrogen?"

The answer for the chemically-challenged is: Oil.


Generating that much electricity is the problem. If not coal, then it will
be steam-methane. Neither sustainable. If we could get that fusion thing
down pat, without use of tritium, maybe we could fill these coal pits back
in.






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"Bob" wrote in message
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Read this:

http://www.airproducts.com/Products/...ogenBasics.htm

"Shoebox Chevy" wrote in message
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"Bob" wrote in message
...
If someone were not so chemically-challenged or was not up on today's
technology, another answer would be water.
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directo...gen_from_Water

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Bob wrote:
On a large scale, I don't think ethyl alcohol is a viable

alternative
fuel because of the manufacturing costs involved. I think that
hydrogen is our best option.


Hydrogen. Sounds good until you ask the next question: "Where do we

get
Hydrogen?"

The answer for the chemically-challenged is: Oil.


Generating that much electricity is the problem. If not coal, then it

will
be steam-methane. Neither sustainable. If we could get that fusion thing
down pat, without use of tritium, maybe we could fill these coal pits

back
in.


Quote - "Hydrogen can produce electricity and electricity can produce
hydrogen, creating an energy loop that is renewable and harmless to the
environment."

This came from the article you are using for hydrogen being "sustainable".
Are you saying that with a few mechanical gadgets, you would have what
amounts to a perpetual energy machine? If we can make all the hydrogen we
need from electricity, which can be generated from said hydrogen, then all
our problems are solved! Bob.....that's ingenious!!!!

Oh Wait, why are we making all of our electricity with coal then? =/


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