Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

Sounds great.

I tried downloading an ISO the other day. Got almost all of it down, and
it vanished from the thumb drive I was loading it to. ARGH!

3 hours- POOF!

Did I mention ARGH?

I'll stick to buying them from Edmund's, when I can. It's easier on the
neighbors' nerves.

Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

**** me running but its good.

I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, and rebooted my old utility box. A 700 meg P3 (coppermine)
box with a couple hds and 256meg memory and a small 15" HP monitor.

It found my USR 56k external modem, it found my network card, and it
easily allowed me to stick my other networked computers on the desktop so
I can access them easily with a single click.

It comes with a very decent assortment of programs of all sorts, the GUI
is pretty intuitive and easily run.

I also tried this on 3 different boxes, incluiding a 250 meg Compaq
laptop. With a single exception..Ubuntu configured itself easily very
litte intervention from me.
The single exception was with a FrankenPC with multipile harddrives, and
multiple CD roms, and DVD players. It hung up on the CD probe at 92%..no
matter what I did.

Next week, Ill download the full install version and install it here on my
linux box, which is running Mepis at the moment, which, up until I
discovered Ubuntu..was the best quick and dirty version Id found to date.

If you want to dabble with Linux....try the Ubuntu LIVE CD. It will NOT
harm any of your existing system files, and you simply turn the computer
off..remove the cd..and reboot to be back in your old operating system.

There are versions on the Ubuntu website for just about any machine
archetecture, from 386s to Macs to Sun workstations.

Good **** Maynard!!

Gunner, Posting with Pan newsreader via Ubuntu

Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, ...

Gunner, try www.ubuntu.com instead of dot org

It is pretty good, at least on a par with knoppix and definitely better
in some aspects.
--
Fred R
________________
Drop TROU to email.

Buy_Sell wrote:
I've been using Ubuntu for more than a year now. It is very good. I
don't understand how the folks at Ubuntu can afford to give away such a
beautiful product absolutely free.

http://www.canonical.com/sitemap

As far as I got. There's money behind it, somewhere.

Dictators derive a good part of their power from the control of
information. Ubuntu is a threat to that.

We will have to see what happens next.

Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via
their
Live CD.

**** me running but its good.

There are versions on the Ubuntu website for just about any machine
archetecture, from 386s to Macs to Sun workstations.

Good **** Maynard!!

Gunner, Posting with Pan newsreader via Ubuntu


http://www.win4lin.com/

Ok gunnie, I ordered your commie Operating System CD.


But I still need my CAD, C++, QB tools.

So...

Win4Lin the 9x version


Richard

Any free kitten is gonna cost...

I suppose that could be true of any operating system. But you would
have to go on the internet in order for people to track your
information. What if you did all of your personal and business
computing offline? Then it would be pretty hard to control
information. With the billions of people using the internet each day,
I'm wondering how many people it takes to process all of this
information? Computers are great at sorting out data but when it gets
right down to it, people still have to search thru it all and make
sense of what information is relevant. I don't see Ubuntu as a threat
at all. If anything, the internet would be the biggest threat because
it is how the information is being transported. As for the money
behind giving out Ubuntu for free including free shipping, I still
don't have an answer to that one. It baffles me as to why they would
do that. The entire Linux project was started with the objective of
making a free operating system for mankind. Ubuntu happens to be the
best version that I have seen.
--------------------------------------
Offbreed Jan 21, 9:35 pm

Buy_Sell wrote:
I've been using Ubuntu for more than a year now. It is very good. I
don't understand how the folks at Ubuntu can afford to give away such a
beautiful product absolutely free.

http://www.canonical.com/sitemap

As far as I got. There's money behind it, somewhere.

Dictators derive a good part of their power from the control of
information. Ubuntu is a threat to that.

We will have to see what happens next.

Buy_Sell wrote:
I don't see Ubuntu as a threat
at all. If anything, the internet would be the biggest threat because
it is how the information is being transported. As for the money
behind giving out Ubuntu for free including free shipping, I still
don't have an answer to that one. It baffles me as to why they would
do that. The entire Linux project was started with the objective of
making a free operating system for mankind. Ubuntu happens to be the
best version that I have seen.

You have my point exactly backwards. The internet is a grave threat to
dictators, and a possible threat to the aristocracy (or whatever you
want to call it) running Europe, and Ubuntu, along with cheap, surplus
computers, opens the net to thousands who would not otherwise be able to
get on line.

Those thousands have active minds, or they would not be getting on line,
they will read things from over seas and discuss what they read with
their friends and families. They will think. They will compare what they
read with life around them. Worse yet, they will network with others in
their own countries and decide that something needs changing.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:55:14 GMT, Fred R "spam
wrote:
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.
I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, ...

Gunner, try www.ubuntu.com instead of dot org

It is pretty good, at least on a par with knoppix and definitely better
in some aspects.
===========================
Knoppix incident. FWIW:
I am in the process of upgrading my operating system. Installed
W2K in place of W98 [I try to always stay one version back].

Things seemed to be going well and I all had service packs /
patches downloaded/installed using a t1 I have access to, and was
loading the last of the software/drivers at home when the machine
locked up. Could not boot, even in the safe mode. Use Knoppix
on cd to see what was wrong. ==Everything was going well when
my big monitor gave a loud pop, and died.== Knoppix was running
in the default hi-res mode. ==I don't know if there was a
connection or not.=

Used the smaller back-up monitor and got the box open. Never was
able to see anything wrong. Eventually had to install second W2k
system on the other hard drive, and boot off it. Ran some
utilities and discovered that *ALL* files on the c: drive were
non-contigious. Never seen that before. Ran defrag and display
looked like a fine tooth comb (with hair stuck in it). Even
after a defrag the c: drive would not boot. Eventually had to do
a complete format and reinstall to get things working. Got to
haul the box back over to the t1 connection [only 28.8 at home,
less when it rains] and reinstall the M/S service packs and
patches. Also had to update my compiler to work in the console
[was the dos box].

Uncle George

Richard Lamb wrote:


But I still need my CAD, C++, QB tools.

So...

Win4Lin the 9x version



CAD: Qcad or 7 others(some free!)

http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue54/frost.html

C++: free linux compiler for C++ (from Intel)

http://www.intel.com/cd/software/pro...lin/219856.htm

QB: ya got me on that one. If you mean Quick Basic, lots of
commands are the same as XBasic. If you mean Quick Books,
try appgen at http://t2100cdt.kippona.net/linux/appgen/

Better yet, give up C++ and Quick Basic in favor of perl/python.
(My WinXP at work came with windows-version python pre-installed)


technomaNge

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 12:02:26 -0600, technomaNge
wrote:
snip
QB: ya got me on that one. If you mean Quick Basic, lots of
commands are the same as XBasic. If you mean Quick Books,
try appgen at http://t2100cdt.kippona.net/linux/appgen/
snip
Assuming you mean quick basic, take a look at PowerBasic at
http://www.powerbasic.com/products/compiler.asp

As part of my system upgrade [w98 to w2k], I discovered that the
Quick Basic is no longer totally compatible with the newer
versions of Windows. I upgraded to Power Basics CC [Console
Compiler] (console being the new name for dos box). Seems to be
pretty bullet proof and is an update of Borland's TurboBasic. I
was able to recompile the QB programs I tried using PB with
minimal changes [mainly const keyword not supported except in
macros].

On their website Power Basic indicates they have a Linix version
in the works which is due RSN.

PB charges for printed documentation [which is included as pdf on
their distribution disk] but this appears to be worth the
additional price. I still miss the loose-leaf binders that used
to come with the software....

They also sell cool PowerBasic t-shirts.

Uncle George

Laurie Forbes wrote:

Would appreciate it if someone could tell me why my computer (an older clone
with Asus A7V mother board) will not boot from an ISO CD file?? I've tried
several Linux OSs including Knoppix - it appears to read the CD but then
ignores it and goes on to boot Windows from the hard drive. BTW, I can boot
a DOS CD with no problems. If I configure the BIOS to boot from the CD
only, all I get with an ISO CD file is an Invalid System Disk message or
somesuch.

2.88 Mb of a CD is readable without a CD driver, and that is used for
the first of the boot up part. It needs to have the right driver for
your CD drive so the rest can be read.

I just went back over what you wrote and something puzzles me. If you
boot up Windows and look at the CD, do you see an "iso" file? If you
can, then someone goofed. An "iso" sort of an archive and the process of
burning a CD should involve opening it and copying to a CD.

http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/isofaq.html#boot

"My computer won't boot from the cd. What do I do?

Make sure your system bios is set to boot from the cdrom _before_
booting from the hard drive. There are too many system variables for me
to tell you how to enable this setting. Check your computer
documentation or try searching Google. During the boot, watch your
monitor for wording that indicates the system is trying to access the cd
drive. If it is trying to access the cd but still won't boot, make a
boot floppy using the cd. From whatever OS you are using, view the cd
and look for README files or an Images or Disk directory. There should
be instructions on how to create and use a boot floppy when the cd won't
boot.


Why do I see one large .iso file on my burned cd instead of files and
directories?

This happens when you copy the downloaded .iso file to a cd instead of
burning it as a disk image. Some software will automatically recognize a
..iso file and burn it correctly. Some software requires a specific menu
selection such as 'Create CD From Disc Image', 'Burn Image', or
something similar. Instructions for several burning programs can be
found here."

"here" being:

http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html

"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

**** me running but its good.

I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, and rebooted my old utility box. A 700 meg P3 (coppermine)
box with a couple hds and 256meg memory and a small 15" HP monitor.


Would appreciate it if someone could tell me why my computer (an older clone
with Asus A7V mother board) will not boot from an ISO CD file?? I've tried
several Linux OSs including Knoppix - it appears to read the CD but then
ignores it and goes on to boot Windows from the hard drive. BTW, I can boot
a DOS CD with no problems. If I configure the BIOS to boot from the CD
only, all I get with an ISO CD file is an Invalid System Disk message or
somesuch.

I suspect this might have something to do with the BIOS which may not
recognize ISO files (??).

Any help welcomed .........

Laurie Forbes

OK Gunner, I sent for a cd. If there's a virus or worse on it I'm
going to be extremely ****ed.
73 Gary

I'm giving it a go too. I registered with the site just to see if they
were really giving these CDs away...including shipping. They are.
Although I didn't get greedy...I only ordered their PC 5-pack.
Mike

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:55:14 GMT, Fred R "spam
wrote:
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.
I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, ...

Gunner, try www.ubuntu.com instead of dot org

It is pretty good, at least on a par with knoppix and definitely better
in some aspects.
===========================
Knoppix incident. FWIW:
I am in the process of upgrading my operating system. Installed
W2K in place of W98 [I try to always stay one version back].

Things seemed to be going well and I all had service packs /
patches downloaded/installed using a t1 I have access to, and was
loading the last of the software/drivers at home when the machine
locked up. Could not boot, even in the safe mode. Use Knoppix
on cd to see what was wrong. ==Everything was going well when
my big monitor gave a loud pop, and died.== Knoppix was running
in the default hi-res mode. ==I don't know if there was a
connection or not.=

Used the smaller back-up monitor and got the box open. Never was
able to see anything wrong. Eventually had to install second W2k
system on the other hard drive, and boot off it. Ran some
utilities and discovered that *ALL* files on the c: drive were
non-contigious. Never seen that before. Ran defrag and display
looked like a fine tooth comb (with hair stuck in it). Even
after a defrag the c: drive would not boot. Eventually had to do
a complete format and reinstall to get things working. Got to
haul the box back over to the t1 connection [only 28.8 at home,
less when it rains] and reinstall the M/S service packs and
patches. Also had to update my compiler to work in the console
[was the dos box].

shoulda made a backup before trying the knoppix.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:19:29 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via
their
Live CD.

**** me running but its good.

There are versions on the Ubuntu website for just about any machine
archetecture, from 386s to Macs to Sun workstations.

Good **** Maynard!!

Gunner, Posting with Pan newsreader via Ubuntu


http://www.win4lin.com/

Ok gunnie, I ordered your commie Operating System CD.


But I still need my CAD, C++, QB tools.

So...

Win4Lin the 9x version


Richard

Any free kitten is gonna cost...

Need any free kittens? Ive got quite a number looking for homes.

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her tits"
John Griffin

On 22 Jan 2006 11:02:54 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, "mj"
quickly quoth:

I'm giving it a go too. I registered with the site just to see if they
were really giving these CDs away...including shipping. They are.
Although I didn't get greedy...I only ordered their PC 5-pack.

Ditto here. They came in late last week. My regular work PC is acting
up (dual bios, can't find either during some bootups) so I haven't
played with a copy yet.

- This product cruelly tested on defenseless furry animals -
--------------------------------------------------------
http://diversify.com Web App & Database Programming

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:38:37 GMT, "Laurie Forbes"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

**** me running but its good.

I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, and rebooted my old utility box. A 700 meg P3 (coppermine)
box with a couple hds and 256meg memory and a small 15" HP monitor.


Would appreciate it if someone could tell me why my computer (an older clone
with Asus A7V mother board) will not boot from an ISO CD file?? I've tried
several Linux OSs including Knoppix - it appears to read the CD but then
ignores it and goes on to boot Windows from the hard drive. BTW, I can boot
a DOS CD with no problems. If I configure the BIOS to boot from the CD
only, all I get with an ISO CD file is an Invalid System Disk message or
somesuch.

I suspect this might have something to do with the BIOS which may not
recognize ISO files (??).

Any help welcomed .........

Laurie Forbes


NOTHING will boot from an ISO file. It must be written to CD in the
proper format. Think of an ISO file as a big assed zip file (not
true.but holds for the analogy)

you load a disk burning program, and have it convert the ISO file to a
bootable disk. Or copy the ISO file to your hard drive and burn from
it.

ISO files have no readily machine recognizable boot structure..so it
has to be "unzipped" into the proper directories, boot files and so
forth.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

On 22 Jan 2006 10:46:40 -0800, "Gary" wrote:

OK Gunner, I sent for a cd. If there's a virus or worse on it I'm
going to be extremely ****ed.
73 Gary


They are a class act, for a bunch of group huggers. G One of the
nice things about Linux..windows viri dont bother it much. I
intentionally opened some of my copious virus laden emails using a
Linux email program...nada. No effect. I ran Aegis antivirus on
them..and they were chock full of virus's..but only written to effect
windows machines.

Now if they only did the same with spam....sigh

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

"Offbreed" wrote in message
...
Laurie Forbes wrote:

I just went back over what you wrote and something puzzles me. If you boot
up Windows and look at the CD, do you see an "iso" file? If you can, then
someone goofed. An "iso" sort of an archive and the process of burning a
CD should involve opening it and copying to a CD.

http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/isofaq.html#boot

"My computer won't boot from the cd. What do I do?

Make sure your system bios is set to boot from the cdrom _before_ booting
from the hard drive. There are too many system variables for me to tell
you how to enable this setting. Check your computer documentation or try
searching Google.

I've done that (set to boot from CD first, and, set to boot from CD only).
As I mentioned, it reads the CD but passes on it.

During the boot, watch your monitor for wording that indicates the system
is trying to access the cd drive. If it is trying to access the cd but
still won't boot, make a boot floppy using the cd. From whatever OS you
are using, view the cd and look for README files or an Images or Disk
directory. There should be instructions on how to create and use a boot
floppy when the cd won't boot.

All I have is the ISO file - the Knoppix site says if you can't boot from
CD, make a floppy boot disk using Knoppix on *another* computer (which I
don't have).


Why do I see one large .iso file on my burned cd instead of files and
directories?

This happens when you copy the downloaded .iso file to a cd instead of
burning it as a disk image. Some software will automatically recognize a
.iso file and burn it correctly. Some software requires a specific menu
selection such as 'Create CD From Disc Image', 'Burn Image', or something
similar. Instructions for several burning programs can be found here."

Ah, I think this is my problem - my CD burn program (HT Fireman) does not
let you specify Burn Image (or equivalent) so all I wind up with is the ISO
file on the CD (if I understand it correctly now). I guess I need a burner
program that accommodates that.

"here" being:

http://www.linuxiso.org/viewdoc.php/howtoburn.html

I'll look here and see what happens. Thanks mucho.....

Laurie Forbes

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:10:00 -0000, "tg"
wrote:


"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:55:14 GMT, Fred R "spam
wrote:
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.
I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, ...

Gunner, try www.ubuntu.com instead of dot org

It is pretty good, at least on a par with knoppix and definitely better
in some aspects.
===========================
Knoppix incident. FWIW:
I am in the process of upgrading my operating system. Installed
W2K in place of W98 [I try to always stay one version back].

Things seemed to be going well and I all had service packs /
patches downloaded/installed using a t1 I have access to, and was
loading the last of the software/drivers at home when the machine
locked up. Could not boot, even in the safe mode. Use Knoppix
on cd to see what was wrong. ==Everything was going well when
my big monitor gave a loud pop, and died.== Knoppix was running
in the default hi-res mode. ==I don't know if there was a
connection or not.=

Used the smaller back-up monitor and got the box open. Never was
able to see anything wrong. Eventually had to install second W2k
system on the other hard drive, and boot off it. Ran some
utilities and discovered that *ALL* files on the c: drive were
non-contigious. Never seen that before. Ran defrag and display
looked like a fine tooth comb (with hair stuck in it). Even
after a defrag the c: drive would not boot. Eventually had to do
a complete format and reinstall to get things working. Got to
haul the box back over to the t1 connection [only 28.8 at home,
less when it rains] and reinstall the M/S service packs and
patches. Also had to update my compiler to work in the console
[was the dos box].

shoulda made a backup before trying the knoppix.

How?

"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 19:10:00 -0000, "tg"
wrote:


"F. George McDuffee" wrote in message ...
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:55:14 GMT, Fred R "spam
wrote:
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.
I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, ...

Gunner, try www.ubuntu.com instead of dot org

It is pretty good, at least on a par with knoppix and definitely better
in some aspects.
===========================
Knoppix incident. FWIW:
I am in the process of upgrading my operating system. Installed
W2K in place of W98 [I try to always stay one version back].

Things seemed to be going well and I all had service packs /
patches downloaded/installed using a t1 I have access to, and was
loading the last of the software/drivers at home when the machine
locked up. Could not boot, even in the safe mode. Use Knoppix
on cd to see what was wrong. ==Everything was going well when
my big monitor gave a loud pop, and died.== Knoppix was running
in the default hi-res mode. ==I don't know if there was a
connection or not.=

Used the smaller back-up monitor and got the box open. Never was
able to see anything wrong. Eventually had to install second W2k
system on the other hard drive, and boot off it. Ran some
utilities and discovered that *ALL* files on the c: drive were
non-contigious. Never seen that before. Ran defrag and display
looked like a fine tooth comb (with hair stuck in it). Even
after a defrag the c: drive would not boot. Eventually had to do
a complete format and reinstall to get things working. Got to
haul the box back over to the t1 connection [only 28.8 at home,
less when it rains] and reinstall the M/S service packs and
patches. Also had to update my compiler to work in the console
[was the dos box].

shoulda made a backup before trying the knoppix.

How?

heard of norton ghost?
it can backup your whole drive. I use it a lot and I assure you, it backs up EVERYTHING. I don't like symantec but their norton
ghost program is an exception. You can back up to image file, restore the whole drive from that same image, or clone one hard drive
to another. Can't be without it.

"Offbreed" wrote in message news:EOydnaz2BaGEkE7enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

I downloaded the ubuntu Live iso and tried it just now. Not bad.
For internet I had to kick-start my ethernet card myself (strange), and when I tried some video capture the preview frame was in
black and white (scoff). I liked it's simplicity though. Less cluttered and clearer layout than knoppix and I installed a couple of
extra programs from the CD which I've never been able to do before with linux, which proves it is more user friendly.
Dissappointing that it couldn't work with my TV card tho, and it also didn't find my firewire port.. Audio CD's also played really
slow and the sound was poor. I could probably sort these things out if I could be bothered but I can't. I'm a well trained windows
puppy.

Laurie Forbes wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message
news
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

**** me running but its good.

I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
www.ubuntu.org, and rebooted my old utility box. A 700 meg P3 (coppermine)
box with a couple hds and 256meg memory and a small 15" HP monitor.



Would appreciate it if someone could tell me why my computer (an older clone
with Asus A7V mother board) will not boot from an ISO CD file?? I've tried
several Linux OSs including Knoppix - it appears to read the CD but then
ignores it and goes on to boot Windows from the hard drive. BTW, I can boot
a DOS CD with no problems. If I configure the BIOS to boot from the CD
only, all I get with an ISO CD file is an Invalid System Disk message or
somesuch.

I suspect this might have something to do with the BIOS which may not
recognize ISO files (??).

Any help welcomed .........

Laurie Forbes


What do you use to burn your .iso's? Nero? Alcohol 120? I may be
assuming - if so, I apologize, but you can't just copy an ISO to CD, you
feed it to a burning program, ususally with the "burn image" command.


CC

for some reason it crashes my dsl modem and only pushing its reset
button and booting to windoes makes it work again. every time i boot
the cd the modem crashes

also it sees my raid0 as 2 seprate drives so i cannot access any of my
info.

"tg" wrote in message
...

"Offbreed" wrote in message
news:EOydnaz2BaGEkE7enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via
their
Live CD.

I downloaded the ubuntu Live iso and tried it just now. Not bad.
For internet I had to kick-start my ethernet card myself (strange), and
when I tried some video capture the preview frame was in
black and white (scoff). I liked it's simplicity though. Less cluttered
and clearer layout than knoppix and I installed a couple of
extra programs from the CD which I've never been able to do before with
linux, which proves it is more user friendly.
Dissappointing that it couldn't work with my TV card tho, and it also
didn't find my firewire port.. Audio CD's also played really
slow and the sound was poor. I could probably sort these things out if I
could be bothered but I can't. I'm a well trained windows
puppy.


Just figured out how to boot from the Koppix download (iso) file (used Nero
to create the boot CD). My thanks to those who helped me with that. My
primary purpose was to play around with Linux a bit (first look) and to use
the partition program that comes with Koppix to resize/remove partitions on
the C drive (which worked! although for some reason the drives (CD and 2nd
physical HD) after the removed "D" partition have kept their "E" and "F"
designations in Windows.

As to Koppix functionality, my brief look has shown that the audio card
doesn't work properly (sound volume very low and distorted) and it won't
drive the monitor at 800x600. Still however pretty interesting...

Laurie Forbes

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:49:59 -0600, CC
wrote:

,;Laurie Forbes wrote:
,; "Gunner" wrote in message
,; news ,;
,;Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
,;Live CD.
,;
,;**** me running but its good.
,;
,;I simply stuck in the live cd which I downloaded the ISO file from
,;www.ubuntu.org, and rebooted my old utility box. A 700 meg P3 (coppermine)
,;box with a couple hds and 256meg memory and a small 15" HP monitor.
,;
,;
,;
,; Would appreciate it if someone could tell me why my computer (an older clone
,; with Asus A7V mother board) will not boot from an ISO CD file?? I've tried
,; several Linux OSs including Knoppix - it appears to read the CD but then
,; ignores it and goes on to boot Windows from the hard drive. BTW, I can boot
,; a DOS CD with no problems. If I configure the BIOS to boot from the CD
,; only, all I get with an ISO CD file is an Invalid System Disk message or
,; somesuch.
,;
,; I suspect this might have something to do with the BIOS which may not
,; recognize ISO files (??).
,;
,; Any help welcomed .........
,;
,; Laurie Forbes
,;
,;
,;What do you use to burn your .iso's? Nero? Alcohol 120? I may be
,;assuming - if so, I apologize, but you can't just copy an ISO to CD, you
,;feed it to a burning program, ususally with the "burn image" command.

Correct an if you don't know how...

Google can be your friend. A "burn iso image" search will give you all
the information you need and probably for your software.

If you would like an XP that runs from a CD try searching reatogo. It
is great when you OS has a problem and you need to copy files or fix
stuff.

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:41:08 GMT, Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

Nice, innit?

**** me running but its good.

Glad to have helped

On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 00:12:04 -0000, "tg"
wrote:


"Offbreed" wrote in message news:EOydnaz2BaGEkE7enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@scnresearch. com...
Gunner wrote:
Ive been playing around with the latest version of Ubuntu Linux, via their
Live CD.

I downloaded the ubuntu Live iso and tried it just now. Not bad.
For internet I had to kick-start my ethernet card myself (strange), and when I tried some video capture the preview frame was in
black and white (scoff). I liked it's simplicity though. Less cluttered and clearer layout than knoppix and I installed a couple of
extra programs from the CD which I've never been able to do before with linux, which proves it is more user friendly.
Dissappointing that it couldn't work with my TV card tho, and it also didn't find my firewire port.. Audio CD's also played really
slow and the sound was poor. I could probably sort these things out if I could be bothered but I can't. I'm a well trained windows
puppy.



Its not surprising the audio played slow..it is afterall running
everything from either memory or a swap file.

Ill be reporting on how it works from a full install next weekend.

Gunner

"Deep in her heart, every moslem woman yearns to show us her tits"
John Griffin

Winston Smith wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:19:29 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:


Gunner wrote:

snip

http://www.win4lin.com/

Ok gunnie, I ordered your commie Operating System CD.


But I still need my CAD, C++, QB tools.


Google 'wine linux'.

If I'm reading them right, it runs Windoze applicaitions in Linux.


So...

Win4Lin the 9x version

Richard



As it turns out, Win4 allows win apps to run Concurrently with Linux,
not under it...


Richard

Winston Smith wrote:

On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 02:45:56 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:

Winston Smith wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:19:29 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:


But I still need my CAD, C++, QB tools.


Google 'wine linux'.

If I'm reading them right, it runs Windoze applicaitions in Linux.


As it turns out, Win4 allows win apps to run Concurrently with Linux,
not under it...


That's fine if you want Windows anyway/too. Wine claims to let you
run Win applications without even having Windows on the machine. One
operating system, free of cost, and at less virus risk is appealing to
me. YMMV. I haven't tried it yet so I'm only going by what their
page says.

http://winehq.com/
"Think of Wine as a compatibility layer for running Windows programs.
Wine does not require Microsoft Windows, as it is a completely free
alternative implementation of the Windows API consisting of 100%
non-Microsoft code, however Wine can optionally use native Windows
DLLs if they are available. Wine provides both a development toolkit
for porting Windows source code to Unix as well as a program loader,
allowing many unmodified Windows programs to run on x86-based Unixes,
including Linux, FreeBSD, and Solaris."

--
W§ mostly in m.s - http://members.1stconnect.com/anozira


Thanks, Winston.

That's more like what I had in mind.

Richard

On Fri, 27 Jan 2006 19:30:40 -0700, Winston Smith
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 06:19:29 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:

Gunner wrote:
snip
http://www.win4lin.com/

Ok gunnie, I ordered your commie Operating System CD.


But I still need my CAD, C++, QB tools.

Google 'wine linux'.

If I'm reading them right, it runs Windoze applicaitions in Linux.

So...

Win4Lin the 9x version

Richard


Or "win4lin"..though I dont think its free. It is supposed to work
pretty well

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

It's Christmas in February!

The Ubuntu CD arrived today.

I dropped the Ubuntu Live CD in the drive and -
low and behold - It Works!

I'll have some serious playing-with-it-time before
I really know what I'm doing, but my first impression is
"So Long, Mr. Gates!"

Gunner (if you are still with us), Thanks Bud!

Richard

"Richard Lamb" wrote in
message
link.net...
It's Christmas in February!

The Ubuntu CD arrived today.

I dropped the Ubuntu Live CD in the drive and -
low and behold - It Works!

I'll have some serious playing-with-it-time
before
I really know what I'm doing, but my first
impression is
"So Long, Mr. Gates!"

Gunner (if you are still with us), Thanks Bud!

Richard I received my CD a few days ago. Dropped
into the old Pentium 3 in the garage and got the
same result.
I'll now have to see if I can find a driver to
suit my old Roland Plotter.

Tom

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:24:03 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm,
Richard Lamb quickly quoth:

It's Christmas in February!

The Ubuntu CD arrived today.

Mine came last month.


I dropped the Ubuntu Live CD in the drive and -
low and behold - It Works!

I'll have some serious playing-with-it-time before
I really know what I'm doing, but my first impression is
"So Long, Mr. Gates!"

Same here; it looks quite interesting. But I can't abandon
my Adobe apps just yet so I'm stuck with at least one box
carrying Vinders for awhile.

Why don't you like Unca Bill?
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:W...amarketing.jpg

--

EXPLETIVE: A balm, usually applied verbally in hindsight,
which somehow eases those pains and indignities following
our every deficiency in foresight.

Mine won't pick up my U.S. Robotics modem. Doesn't load the comm
drivers and has no dialer for my dial up connection. Rig is a Pentium
4, 1.4 meghz, 256 megs of fast ram, 30 gig HD running XP Hone edition.
It gets my Turtle Beach sound card, my video card, both the DVD RW and
the CD RW, even my card reader on the ISB for my camera. You'd think
the modem was common enough to be recognized.
73 Gary



On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:24:03 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:

It's Christmas in February!

The Ubuntu CD arrived today.

I dropped the Ubuntu Live CD in the drive and -
low and behold - It Works!

I'll have some serious playing-with-it-time before
I really know what I'm doing, but my first impression is
"So Long, Mr. Gates!"

Gunner (if you are still with us), Thanks Bud!

Richard
Gary Pewitt N9ZSV
Sturgeon's Law "Ninety per cent of everything is crap"

wrote:

snipped my ravings...

Same here; it looks quite interesting. But I can't abandon
my Adobe apps just yet so I'm stuck with at least one box
carrying Vinders for awhile.

Why don't you like Unca Bill?
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Image:W...amarketing.jpg



Hard to put into words...

I guess that means it's mostly emotional rather than logical.

Richard

Eregon wrote:

(Speechless) wrote in news:43f6adc7.38586109
@news.sasktel.net:


There are two kinds of modems:
Hardware modem = works with Linux
Software modem, aka "WinModem", works only with Windows



Bad news, boobie: the "WinModem" is HARDWARE, too!


Maybe, but there are a bunch of them that are (mostly) soft stuff.

There has to be some hardware to latch the output bits, but the
rest of what goes on inside a UART can be emulated with code.

It's a lot cheaper in high volume production.

On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:24:03 GMT, Richard Lamb
wrote:

It's Christmas in February!

The Ubuntu CD arrived today.

I dropped the Ubuntu Live CD in the drive and -
low and behold - It Works!

I'll have some serious playing-with-it-time before
I really know what I'm doing, but my first impression is
"So Long, Mr. Gates!"

Gunner (if you are still with us), Thanks Bud!

Richard

G

My pleasure

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire.
Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us)
off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give
them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you
for torturing the cat." Gunner

"Eregon" wrote in message
...
(Speechless) wrote in news:43f6adc7.38586109
@news.sasktel.net:

There are two kinds of modems:
Hardware modem = works with Linux
Software modem, aka "WinModem", works only with Windows


Bad news, boobie: the "WinModem" is HARDWARE, too!


It is "hardware" BUT it is not a true hardware modem. A true hardware
modem is self contained and has the controller and processing power on
it to allow it to handle the entire process of dialing,handshake
process, and logging. The drivers for it only tell the computer the way
to turn it on/off, how to set the phone number that it calls and what
method it can use to talk to the outside world. A winmodem on the other
hand is entirely dependent on the computer to provide the processing
power and protocols for communication. It used to be that you only
bought true hardware modems but once the processor power got high enough
the makers decided they could cut some components out.

Steve



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