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[OT] Great funeral
We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and
mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! |
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Sounds like a good sendoff! Godspeed to him.
Eide "Tom Gardner" wrote in message . .. We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! Condolences . Ken Cutt |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! I admire you for being able to have a good time at your father's funeral. He'd be proud of you. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:16:10 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! Chuckle..my condolences of course. When its my turn to pass..the specs of my will, are gonna raise a bunch of eyebrows...not the least is the piper sans kilt. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:07:24 GMT, xray
wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 08:35:12 GMT, Gunner Asch wrote: ...not the least is the piper sans kilt. Hmm. Can you keep one on tap before you go? Seems like a difficult role to fill. (Easier close to LA and if you don't care about the quality of the music.) I have friends in the "Folk Music" community, which includes a number of pipers. I know of several who would relish standing in their skivies, with the appropriate coat, playing Amazing Grace for my "service". The single biggest issue is finding enough hookers without everyone getting busted. As I said...the specs will raise some eyebrows..but not for those who know me well. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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My condoliance too! You father go to the Holly God!
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In article , nospam says...
We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. My wishes go out to you. You were wise to bring them home from a place like that. No matter how nice they are, they're still not home. Even though it was a lot of work for you, he appreciated it. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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My condolences. Getting them out of the nursing home was the most important
thing to me. Glad he had an enjoyable send off. Karl "Tom Gardner" wrote in message . .. We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:16:10 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! We cared for my mom at our home for over 4 years unitl she became completly unable to move. She is an alzheimers paitent, and finally got to the point where she was 100% bedridden. We hung on for 6 months, giving her 24 hour care unitl we simply could not do it anymore. She would be unresponsive for days at a time. We where sure she was dying and wanted her to do so at home. All the rest of my family scattered. You sure learn who is for real and who isn't during those sort of things. Exausted, we finally moved her to a nursing facility up the road, a great place, where her physical heatlth improved greatly. Her mind is pretty much not there anymore, but she is being better taken care of than we could do. Still, every time we visit, we still want to take her home. It stinks to have your body outlive your mind. So my condolances. it is refreshing to see folks with a good outlook on the whole thing. Good for you for taking him out of the nursing home and taking care of him. We've walked that path, you have my respect. It really is the right thing to do, if it possible. When we had my mom here, it was shocking to me to see how many of our "friends" and relatives said things like "I don't know why your keeping her here, she belongs in a home..." -AL A. |
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Yea, we have a large extended family, many cousins, no one sent their
parents to a home. I think it comes down to mostly planning, and planning early, like when you just begin working, and assume at some point in your life you won't be working for 5 to 10 years to take care of your parents, if you do that the process becomes much easier. But obviously things happen, though, and life doesn't go as planned, and you may not have the skill/resources to care for your parents properly, so nursing homes are the best option in some cases. But I know a lot of people who think taking off from work is not even a option they would consider, their life plan assumes nothing bad will ever happen to them or their family. |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:16:10 GMT, the renowned "Tom Gardner"
wrote: We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! Condolences, Tom. We did the same for my Scottish MIL. Interestingly, at her sendoff, a lot of older folks expressed serious doubts that any of their kids would have done the same for them. Say, he must have been a real character, judging by your posts. ;-) Got any anecdotes? There's a cold Guinness in the fridge and I'm looking for a good reason to pop it open. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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I'm sorry I didn't see Tom's original post. Thanks to Ken for bringing it
to our attention. I am very sorry for your loss, Tom. Hopefully the humor during the graveside service will help set a mood for remembering your Dad. Remember him for the all the good times! Bob Swinney "Ken Cutt" wrote in message ... Tom Gardner wrote: We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! Condolences . Ken Cutt |
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In article , Al A. says...
It stinks to have your body outlive your mind. True, but only marginally. I spent the better part of this summer helping my mom who was hospitalized several times for a variety of serious problems. Eventually she went to rehab in a nursing home, and while it was bad for her being so terribly disabled and yet still acutely aware of what was going on. Worse because she retired from her job as a nurse while she was hospitalized. It was bad but we both realized that problems like your mom's were a great deal tougher. I think that anything you do to make her life better in any way at all, is a graceful act. Like you say, in a situation like that, you really see who sticks and who doesn't. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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In article . com, steve says...
But obviously things happen, though, and life doesn't go as planned, and you may not have the skill/resources to care for your parents properly, so nursing homes are the best option in some cases. But I know a lot of people who think taking off from work is not even a option they would consider, their life plan assumes nothing bad will ever happen to them or their family. Another argument against at-home care is, there are some medical conditions that really do require a higher level of care than is practical at home. For some actute illnesses, being in a nursing home really is better because there are more highly trained staff right there at hand at all times. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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Gunner
So are they gonna put a $20 gold piece on your watch chain and bury you in your high top Stetson hat? (with apologies to "St. James Infirmary") Mac |
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On 20 Sep 2005 08:58:26 -0700, jim rozen
wrote: In article , Al A. says... It stinks to have your body outlive your mind. True, but only marginally. I spent the better part of this summer helping my mom who was hospitalized several times for a variety of serious problems. Eventually she went to rehab in a nursing home, and while it was bad for her being so terribly disabled and yet still acutely aware of what was going on. Worse because she retired from her job as a nurse while she was hospitalized. It was bad but we both realized that problems like your mom's were a great deal tougher. I think that anything you do to make her life better in any way at all, is a graceful act. Like you say, in a situation like that, you really see who sticks and who doesn't. Jim You are right, Jim, neither option is very palatable. That must have been tough on your mom. I guess that if you keep you mind but your body fails, it is agony for you. If your mind fails and your body holds up, it is agony for those around you. At this point, my mother is healthy and blissfully unaware of her condition. The blessing in it all is that she smiles and laughs, though none of us know about what! She is not one of those poor folks who lays about the place crying that they want to go home or whatever. And as far as seeing who sticks and who dosen't, the truly surprising thing to me was the people that always seemed to be casual aquaintences that came through in a huge way when we really needed help. It was impressive in a few instances. I learned great respect for anyone who walks that path. Every story is different, but none are easy. One of the most shocking parts is the number of people that will tell you that you are nuts for taking care of your parent. That caused me to lose a fair bit of respect for some people I once thought more highly of. Thanks for listening... Al A. |
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Tom Gardner wrote:
We buried my dad today after 4 years of home care after springing him and mom from a nursing home. It was great! Lots of friends food and hooch and we have a HUGE family. (Irish Catholic) The best part was the pastor at our parish that presided over the Mass and burial had his fly open and his shirt hanging out at the grave site...and of course, NOBODY would tell him, just snicker. Dad would have LOVED it!!! Sorry to hear about your dad. But it does make a funeral great when lots of people attend. You realise how many friends the person had, and that tempers the sadness a little and makes the occasion. Chris |
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On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:18:47 -0700, Jim McGill
wrote: Gunner So are they gonna put a $20 gold piece on your watch chain and bury you in your high top Stetson hat? (with apologies to "St. James Infirmary") Mac With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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In article , Al A. says...
You are right, Jim, neither option is very palatable. That must have been tough on your mom. I guess that if you keep you mind but your body fails, it is agony for you. If your mind fails and your body holds up, it is agony for those around you. At this point, my mother is healthy and blissfully unaware of her condition. The blessing in it all is that she smiles and laughs, though none of us know about what! She is not one of those poor folks who lays about the place crying that they want to go home or whatever. That was really sobering. There was one lady who did that *every* night. Each night it was a different catch phrase but it happened over and over again. The staff had immense patience. That is the one single thing that impressed me the most about the summer's experience, no matter how bad things got, no matter what was coming uncorked, I never did meet any heath care professional who was not well-intentioned and doing their level headed best to do a good job at whatever they were responsible for. There were no malevolent forces, only differing degrees of competence. The name of the game was to maximize the competence factor apparently. The healthcare system in the US is a pretty complex device, in more than one way. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:01:59 GMT, Gunner wrote:
On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:18:47 -0700, Jim McGill wrote: So are they gonna put a $20 gold piece on your watch chain and bury you in your high top Stetson hat? With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Surely you wouldn't get buried with a _good_ .45, Gunner. Have it sent to me; I'll send back something more suitable, and you won't mind a bit. |
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Gunner wrote:
With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Gunner Reminds me of an old Playboy cartoon of two angels watching another one cruise by in a sports car with a babe at his side and one saying to the other "Me too. I just assumed you couldn't take it with you." |
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"Gunner" wrote in message With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Gunner Sell me your .45 for twice what it's worth and I'll leave a check in your box. |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:05:45 GMT, Tom Gardner wrote:
"Gunner" wrote in message With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Gunner Sell me your .45 for twice what it's worth and I'll leave a check in your box. Post-dated, no doubt... |
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On 21 Sep 2005 14:31:54 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 04:01:59 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 09:18:47 -0700, Jim McGill wrote: So are they gonna put a $20 gold piece on your watch chain and bury you in your high top Stetson hat? With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Surely you wouldn't get buried with a _good_ .45, Gunner. Have it sent to me; I'll send back something more suitable, and you won't mind a bit. Ive others. Ill put you on my bequeth list. This one has been my daily companion for over 30 yrs, and will continue to be for hopefully at least that long in the future.. Perferably 3x that long..but..shrug Gunner, a firm believer in the Viking Funeral concept. "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:56:01 GMT, Gunner wrote:
On 21 Sep 2005 14:31:54 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Ive others. Ill put you on my bequeth list. This one has been my daily companion for over 30 yrs, and will continue to be for hopefully at least that long in the future.. Perferably 3x that long..but..shrug Thanks, uncle Gunner! Gunner, a firm believer in the Viking Funeral concept. Yeah. About that...my mom wants one of those when the time is appropriate, and I don't have the first clue on how to pull it off without seriously angering some authorities or others. I wonder if Norway would be open to it, or maybe Orkney? |
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"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message Say, he must have been a real character, judging by your posts. ;-) Got any anecdotes? There's a cold Guinness in the fridge and I'm looking for a good reason to pop it open. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany We have a zillion stories that we have been telling for days and laughing so hard it hurts. |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 03:37:48 GMT, the renowned "Tom Gardner"
wrote: "Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message Say, he must have been a real character, judging by your posts. ;-) Got any anecdotes? There's a cold Guinness in the fridge and I'm looking for a good reason to pop it open. We have a zillion stories that we have been telling for days and laughing so hard it hurts. Excellent. That's what I hope for when my time comes. Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On 21 Sep 2005 17:43:58 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:56:01 GMT, Gunner wrote: On 21 Sep 2005 14:31:54 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Ive others. Ill put you on my bequeth list. This one has been my daily companion for over 30 yrs, and will continue to be for hopefully at least that long in the future.. Perferably 3x that long..but..shrug Thanks, uncle Gunner! Gunner, a firm believer in the Viking Funeral concept. Yeah. About that...my mom wants one of those when the time is appropriate, and I don't have the first clue on how to pull it off without seriously angering some authorities or others. I wonder if Norway would be open to it, or maybe Orkney? She going to have Liberals bound and gagged at her feet to escort her to hell? Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:05:45 GMT, "Tom Gardner"
wrote: "Gunner" wrote in message With my .45 cocked and locked, and one up the spout, in my Good holster. Gunner Sell me your .45 for twice what it's worth and I'll leave a check in your box. Which one? I have 11 Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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" Which one? I have 11 Gunner Send me a 1911 shooter that you won't care if I drill a few holes in it for a red-dot. I don't want your "Sunday-go-to-church" gun |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:36:54 GMT, Gunner wrote:
On 21 Sep 2005 17:43:58 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:56:01 GMT, Gunner wrote: Gunner, a firm believer in the Viking Funeral concept. Yeah. About that...my mom wants one of those when the time is appropriate, and I don't have the first clue on how to pull it off without seriously angering some authorities or others. I wonder if Norway would be open to it, or maybe Orkney? She going to have Liberals bound and gagged at her feet to escort her to hell? Heh... I'll mention that to her,she'll love it. But, seriously, where can you pull off the flaming funeral ship send-off and not get in trouble? Dave Hinz |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:37:28 GMT, Gunner wrote:
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:05:45 GMT, "Tom Gardner" wrote: Sell me your .45 for twice what it's worth and I'll leave a check in your box. Which one? I have 11 OK, so 5 for Tom, 5 for me, and one for your hip. Seems fair. But, then how will I know which of my 8 to shoot? |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:41:09 GMT, Tom Gardner wrote:
Send me a 1911 shooter that you won't care if I drill a few holes in it for a red-dot. I don't want your "Sunday-go-to-church" gun Tom, My dad just came home from a gun show and expressed his thoughts that he really shouldn't have had his Gold Cup drilled & tapped all those years ago...didn't want to give details but his eyes had "that look". No point in setting up a separate slide for your scope mount, the best solution as you say is to build up another one. Essex frames aren't horrible, and with Wilson Combat components you can build a nice 1911 for not too much hassle. You can even go surplus USGI if you enjoy fitting. I think I used a milsurp USGI slide, barrel, and bushing. Not too horribly many hours later, I have a nice 1911 that works just fine, nice tight slide, and good lug engagement. Good winter project if nothing else. Dave Hinz |
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On 22 Sep 2005 15:01:28 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:36:54 GMT, Gunner wrote: On 21 Sep 2005 17:43:58 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:56:01 GMT, Gunner wrote: Gunner, a firm believer in the Viking Funeral concept. Yeah. About that...my mom wants one of those when the time is appropriate, and I don't have the first clue on how to pull it off without seriously angering some authorities or others. I wonder if Norway would be open to it, or maybe Orkney? She going to have Liberals bound and gagged at her feet to escort her to hell? Heh... I'll mention that to her,she'll love it. But, seriously, where can you pull off the flaming funeral ship send-off and not get in trouble? Dave Hinz You really dont have to tell the authorities, until after the fact. And then what are they gonna do? Your dead. They gonna proscecute ya? GUnner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On 22 Sep 2005 15:02:26 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 06:37:28 GMT, Gunner wrote: On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 16:05:45 GMT, "Tom Gardner" wrote: Sell me your .45 for twice what it's worth and I'll leave a check in your box. Which one? I have 11 OK, so 5 for Tom, 5 for me, and one for your hip. Seems fair. But, then how will I know which of my 8 to shoot? You shoot the .41 Magnum of course. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:32:35 GMT, Gunner wrote:
On 22 Sep 2005 15:01:28 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Heh... I'll mention that to her,she'll love it. But, seriously, where can you pull off the flaming funeral ship send-off and not get in trouble? You really dont have to tell the authorities, until after the fact. And then what are they gonna do? Your dead. They gonna proscecute ya? Now wait just a damn minute. I'm not planning on being on the flaming boat _with her_; I'll be the guy on shore with plenty of evidence around me. I've got a couple Norwegian friends staying over for the next couple weeks, and they live right on Lake Mj/osa - largest lake in Norway, and probably host to events of that sort for 1200 years off and on. I should ask them what the deal is over there. |
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On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:33:29 GMT, Gunner wrote:
On 22 Sep 2005 15:02:26 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: OK, so 5 for Tom, 5 for me, and one for your hip. Seems fair. But, then how will I know which of my 8 to shoot? You shoot the .41 Magnum of course. Ooooh, I don't have one of those. (thinks)...I wonder how that happened? OK, after the 1927A1, _then_ something in .41 Mag. But, the Thompson first, definately. |
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On 22 Sep 2005 15:59:41 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 15:32:35 GMT, Gunner wrote: On 22 Sep 2005 15:01:28 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote: Heh... I'll mention that to her,she'll love it. But, seriously, where can you pull off the flaming funeral ship send-off and not get in trouble? You really dont have to tell the authorities, until after the fact. And then what are they gonna do? Your dead. They gonna proscecute ya? Now wait just a damn minute. I'm not planning on being on the flaming boat _with her_; I'll be the guy on shore with plenty of evidence around me. I've got a couple Norwegian friends staying over for the next couple weeks, and they live right on Lake Mj/osa - largest lake in Norway, and probably host to events of that sort for 1200 years off and on. I should ask them what the deal is over there. Notice the Liberals are still gagged and tied as the ship burns. Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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On 22 Sep 2005 15:29:12 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 14:41:09 GMT, Tom Gardner wrote: Send me a 1911 shooter that you won't care if I drill a few holes in it for a red-dot. I don't want your "Sunday-go-to-church" gun Tom, My dad just came home from a gun show and expressed his thoughts that he really shouldn't have had his Gold Cup drilled & tapped all those years ago...didn't want to give details but his eyes had "that look". No point in setting up a separate slide for your scope mount, the best solution as you say is to build up another one. Essex frames aren't horrible, and with Wilson Combat components you can build a nice 1911 for not too much hassle. You can even go surplus USGI if you enjoy fitting. I think I used a milsurp USGI slide, barrel, and bushing. Not too horribly many hours later, I have a nice 1911 that works just fine, nice tight slide, and good lug engagement. Good winter project if nothing else. Dave Hinz Buy a ParaOrd double stack frame and build on it. Stick a AMT Hardballer slide on it... Thats my #2 gun. 14+1 rounds of 230gr Gold dots that will shoot into a 2" circle at 50 yrds all day Gunner "Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules. Think of it as having your older brother knock the **** out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner |
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