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not quite metalworking but , framing nailers are made of metal
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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"Marc" wrote in message news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06... Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc try rec.woodworking or alt.home.repair |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. I've got a Senco 360 (?) that I've been meaning to eBay one of these years, used to build one house and a few other buildings - probably 50,000 or 100,000 nails through it at most. I've been happy with it, but I just don't use it anymore. If you're looking for a good brand, that's one to consider. If you wanted to do some footwork and make an offer, I'd listen, or some month I'll get around to putting it on eBay. Dave Hinz |
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Price and cost to mail to Florida ?
Aye Mark Dave Hinz wrote: On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote: Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. I've got a Senco 360 (?) that I've been meaning to eBay one of these years, used to build one house and a few other buildings - probably 50,000 or 100,000 nails through it at most. I've been happy with it, but I just don't use it anymore. If you're looking for a good brand, that's one to consider. If you wanted to do some footwork and make an offer, I'd listen, or some month I'll get around to putting it on eBay. Dave Hinz |
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Thanks ....shudda thought of that myself
 Aye Marc Charles Spitzer wrote: "Marc" wrote in message news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06... Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc try rec.woodworking or alt.home.repair |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:44:49 GMT, Marc wrote:
Price and cost to mail to Florida ? Let me take a look at ebay this evening and see if there is a price point to work from. My email address is valid, I'll try yours now. I wasn't really planning on selling it any time soon, but hey - if you need it, and I don't, let's see what happens. If nothing else this will get me to figure out what it's worth and get pictures of the thing. I have a top end o-ring and seal kit for it, that I thought I'd need but haven't, which I'd include. Dave |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc Fitch is delighted with his Hitachi, don't know what he paid for it. |
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Where in Florida are you ?
gary "Marc" wrote in message news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06... Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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It so happens that just noticed some "Contractor Series" ones in HF for
$88.95. Reduced from $149.99-$199.95. 10 Gauge, with 21,28, or 34 degree mags (linear, not cylindrical). The catalog #'s are as follows: 04041-5CBA - 21 degree full head 91053-2CBA - 28 degree clipped head 91054-3CBA - 34 degree clipped head There is also 93099-0CBA - 34 degree clipped head for 79.99 in the same catalog All look about the same, except for the mag angle, and take 10 gauge nails from 2" to 3.5". I've had good luck with a $19.99 brad nailer I bought years ago. Cheap and works well. If you go online and "Order from printed catalog" with one of those numbers, you should be able to get those prices. -- Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways) "Marc" wrote in message news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06... Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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For the price range you're in, you can have a brand-new Paslode F350S
for $279 plus tax. Uses both clipped-head (D-shape) and Roundrive (offset round-head) framing nails, paper-collated. I got one used for about $180 and they are plentiful on eBay. For the same money, you can have a brand-new Hitachi NR90AD that also uses clipped-head nails. It's green and VERY light. I have the older NR83A that uses round-head nails and is a bit more money. You DO want adjustable depth-of-drive on whatever you get. Using the sequential-fire trigger with a framer is desirable to avoid doubling. On the Hitachi, it's a switch. On the Paslode, it's a simple trigger swap. If you want to stay in the $250 range, PorterCable has the FR350 (RH) and FC350 (CH) that should do nicely for you. You do not say whether you intend to resell the nailer after the job is done. On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote: Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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For a small job why not just use a hammer?
But them I also remember pterodactyles. MadDog |
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Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc I'm a carpenter, and in the past three years we have used Paslode, Stanley-Bostitch, Hitachi, and Duo-Fast framing nailers. For light duty work, any of them should give great service. If you want a tough, long lasting, and highly reliable gun, though, I'd say to go with the Hitachi. (NOT the new model that looks like a nailgun got diddled by a running shoe, the plain "tool looking" gun). Over the years, I've seen many guns bite the schnitzel. The commonest cause is being dropped 10-30 ft. The Hitachi survival rate is roughly twice the norm in this circumstance. It is also much more jam resistant. Comes, as someone may have already mentioned, with a sequential trigger. I don't enjoy the seq. trigger. It slows you down, and makes some shots (awkward positions at arms' reach) a lot harder. Having said that, though, I wouldn't buy a gun that didn't have the feature or a conversion kit. Framing guns are more dangerous than most people credit, particularly when clambering around in a roof system. it's SO easy to have your finger on the trigger and manage to bump your leg into the business end while climbing around. The seq. trigger addresses that issue. Good luck, and have Fun! Luke |
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In article xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06, Marc
wrote: I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. It's called framing hammer, Hart and Vaughn make nice ones. Waffle face, straight claw, don't go too heavy or you'll wear your arm out - 24 oz is probably fine. Don't pull nails with the claw - buy a prybar or cats-paw (or both) to do that. No point to using a expensive, bulky, heavy gun on a small job. I've yet to meet a job big enough to warrant one, and I've built a 2000 square foot shop, five 100 square-foot sheds, a garage and a few other things in the past 3 years. Did you learn carpentry by watching TV shows with gadgets, or what? Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones Other than peeing money away on titanium (for what reason I cannot imagine), you should have about $220 left in your pocket when you've bought the hammer. Leaving you with $200 or so when you've bought the nail-pullers. If you find that you have more money left, you probably bought a useless Hammer Shaped Object - return it and buy a hammer. both good and bad comments are welcome. Use a hammer. Forget the toys. Wear your safety glasses. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by |
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food for thought, from what I understand, clipped head nails do not meet the
national building code, which many local munis have adopted. Personally, I could care less, but it is likely to affect you, it would be worth researching. And of course, DON'T ASK a local official! "Thomas Kendrick" wrote in message news:1126650552.14e9415f50cfbc75adea6857e34b1abd@t eranews... For the price range you're in, you can have a brand-new Paslode F350S for $279 plus tax. Uses both clipped-head (D-shape) and Roundrive (offset round-head) framing nails, paper-collated. I got one used for about $180 and they are plentiful on eBay. For the same money, you can have a brand-new Hitachi NR90AD that also uses clipped-head nails. It's green and VERY light. I have the older NR83A that uses round-head nails and is a bit more money. You DO want adjustable depth-of-drive on whatever you get. Using the sequential-fire trigger with a framer is desirable to avoid doubling. On the Hitachi, it's a switch. On the Paslode, it's a simple trigger swap. If you want to stay in the $250 range, PorterCable has the FR350 (RH) and FC350 (CH) that should do nicely for you. You do not say whether you intend to resell the nailer after the job is done. On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote: Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you
don't do this regularly. Ecnerwal wrote: In article xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06, Marc wrote: I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. It's called framing hammer, Hart and Vaughn make nice ones. Waffle face, straight claw, don't go too heavy or you'll wear your arm out - 24 oz is probably fine. Don't pull nails with the claw - buy a prybar or cats-paw (or both) to do that. No point to using a expensive, bulky, heavy gun on a small job. I've yet to meet a job big enough to warrant one, and I've built a 2000 square foot shop, five 100 square-foot sheds, a garage and a few other things in the past 3 years. Did you learn carpentry by watching TV shows with gadgets, or what? Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones Other than peeing money away on titanium (for what reason I cannot imagine), you should have about $220 left in your pocket when you've bought the hammer. Leaving you with $200 or so when you've bought the nail-pullers. If you find that you have more money left, you probably bought a useless Hammer Shaped Object - return it and buy a hammer. both good and bad comments are welcome. Use a hammer. Forget the toys. Wear your safety glasses. |
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Anything in the 20-23 oz. weight is adequate. Estwing makes a nice 20
oz. with a wood handle if you like the brand but don't want the steel handle with that nice ringing sound to it. On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:44 GMT, RoyJ wrote: Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you don't do this regularly. |
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Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc I have a Stanley-Bostich, and have no complaints with it, but having used a Senco before, I would recommend it over the Stanley. I do have an older imported pin nailer that I've had good luck with, but I recently bought a HF stapler/pin nailer combo, exchanged it due to malfunction, and finally ended up throwing the second one in the trash. I would stay away from HF nailers. Gary Brady Austin, TX |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:47:18 -0500, Thomas Kendrick
wrote: Anything in the 20-23 oz. weight is adequate. Estwing makes a nice 20 oz. with a wood handle if you like the brand but don't want the steel handle with that nice ringing sound to it. On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:44 GMT, RoyJ wrote: Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you don't do this regularly. My $2 Estwing 20 oz. (steel = leather) did a good job on the nerves in my left thumb when I was two hitting 2" nails Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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Consider a fence nailer. They are smaller, use rolls not sticks of nails
and shoot smaller nails. I think they are 8's downward. The big framers are 10's. IIRC. I'm looking at them, but not serious at this minute. Have more than I have to do than rebuild our wood shop. Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder Marc wrote: Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Beware of buying a clipped head or T head nailer. Some jurisdictions
require full nail heads. -- Roger Shoaf If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the Congress? "Bob Chilcoat" wrote in message ... It so happens that just noticed some "Contractor Series" ones in HF for $88.95. Reduced from $149.99-$199.95. 10 Gauge, with 21,28, or 34 degree mags (linear, not cylindrical). The catalog #'s are as follows: 04041-5CBA - 21 degree full head 91053-2CBA - 28 degree clipped head 91054-3CBA - 34 degree clipped head There is also 93099-0CBA - 34 degree clipped head for 79.99 in the same catalog All look about the same, except for the mag angle, and take 10 gauge nails from 2" to 3.5". I've had good luck with a $19.99 brad nailer I bought years ago. Cheap and works well. If you go online and "Order from printed catalog" with one of those numbers, you should be able to get those prices. -- Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways) "Marc" wrote in message news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06... Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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My father had one of those brad nailers and was very pleased with it.
Karl "Bob Chilcoat" wrote in message ... It so happens that just noticed some "Contractor Series" ones in HF for $88.95. Reduced from $149.99-$199.95. 10 Gauge, with 21,28, or 34 degree mags (linear, not cylindrical). The catalog #'s are as follows: 04041-5CBA - 21 degree full head 91053-2CBA - 28 degree clipped head 91054-3CBA - 34 degree clipped head There is also 93099-0CBA - 34 degree clipped head for 79.99 in the same catalog All look about the same, except for the mag angle, and take 10 gauge nails from 2" to 3.5". I've had good luck with a $19.99 brad nailer I bought years ago. Cheap and works well. If you go online and "Order from printed catalog" with one of those numbers, you should be able to get those prices. -- Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways) "Marc" wrote in message news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06... Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc |
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Gerald Miller wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:47:18 -0500, Thomas Kendrick wrote: Anything in the 20-23 oz. weight is adequate. Estwing makes a nice 20 oz. with a wood handle if you like the brand but don't want the steel handle with that nice ringing sound to it. On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:44 GMT, RoyJ wrote: Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you don't do this regularly. My $2 Estwing 20 oz. (steel = leather) did a good job on the nerves in my left thumb when I was two hitting 2" nails Gerry :-)} London, Canada Wrong nail! |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Why not hire one ? I built a 300 square metre deck for my neighbours and hired a Paslode nailer for $50. Well worth it. One squeeze of trigger or up to 7 hammer strikes to do the same thing. Had to use the hammer for minor mods, not worth hiring for 20 minutes work and 60 km travel to collect & return it. Alan in beautiful Golden Bay, Western Oz, South 32.25.42, East 115.45.44 GMT+8 VK6 YAB ICQ 6581610 to reply, change oz to au in address |
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On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and both good and bad comments are welcome. Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past. Cliffie don't bother to reply. Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ? Aye Marc I asked my neighbor (a contractor) about that today. He has a Bosch framing nailer that he is very pleased with after many thousands of nails. He uses it some on nearly every job. |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote: Hi Y'all, I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly. I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area. I just bought a reconditioned Paslode for 160 bucks to build a 200 sq. ft. addition. I'm happy with it. A Senco is probably more durable. The Paslode has a longer magazine, thus less reloads. Been a union carpenter for 30 + years. I know of what I speak. You'll need a hammer also. Fiberglass handles are best. Plumb makes a nice one. I've got 2, 16 oz. a straight and a cuved claw. both old and work like new. The inspector passed my work with clipped head nails in Milwaukee. Check your local codes. Definitly use air power. Save your arm for hoisting beers after your long day of building.;-) |
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