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Marc September 13th 05 07:56 PM

not quite metalworking but , framing nailers are made of metal
 
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc

Charles Spitzer September 13th 05 08:00 PM


"Marc" wrote in message
news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06...
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc


try rec.woodworking or alt.home.repair



Dave Hinz September 13th 05 08:17 PM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.


I've got a Senco 360 (?) that I've been meaning to eBay one of these
years, used to build one house and a few other buildings - probably
50,000 or 100,000 nails through it at most. I've been happy with it,
but I just don't use it anymore. If you're looking for a good brand,
that's one to consider. If you wanted to do some footwork and make an
offer, I'd listen, or some month I'll get around to putting it on eBay.

Dave Hinz


Marc September 13th 05 08:44 PM

Price and cost to mail to Florida ?
Aye
Mark

Dave Hinz wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.



I've got a Senco 360 (?) that I've been meaning to eBay one of these
years, used to build one house and a few other buildings - probably
50,000 or 100,000 nails through it at most. I've been happy with it,
but I just don't use it anymore. If you're looking for a good brand,
that's one to consider. If you wanted to do some footwork and make an
offer, I'd listen, or some month I'll get around to putting it on eBay.

Dave Hinz


Marc September 13th 05 08:45 PM

Thanks ....shudda thought of that myself :)
Aye
Marc

Charles Spitzer wrote:
"Marc" wrote in message
news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06...

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc



try rec.woodworking or alt.home.repair



Dave Hinz September 13th 05 08:49 PM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 19:44:49 GMT, Marc wrote:
Price and cost to mail to Florida ?


Let me take a look at ebay this evening and see if there is a price
point to work from. My email address is valid, I'll try yours now.
I wasn't really planning on selling it any time soon, but hey - if you
need it, and I don't, let's see what happens. If nothing else this will
get me to figure out what it's worth and get pictures of the thing. I
have a top end o-ring and seal kit for it, that I thought I'd need but
haven't, which I'd include.

Dave


Don Foreman September 13th 05 08:51 PM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc


Fitch is delighted with his Hitachi, don't know what he paid for it.

Gary Owens September 13th 05 10:52 PM

Where in Florida are you ?
gary


"Marc" wrote in message
news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06...
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc




Bob Chilcoat September 13th 05 10:58 PM

It so happens that just noticed some "Contractor Series" ones in HF for
$88.95. Reduced from $149.99-$199.95. 10 Gauge, with 21,28, or 34 degree
mags (linear, not cylindrical). The catalog #'s are as follows:

04041-5CBA - 21 degree full head
91053-2CBA - 28 degree clipped head
91054-3CBA - 34 degree clipped head

There is also
93099-0CBA - 34 degree clipped head for 79.99 in the same catalog

All look about the same, except for the mag angle, and take 10 gauge nails
from 2" to 3.5". I've had good luck with a $19.99 brad nailer I bought
years ago. Cheap and works well. If you go online and "Order from printed
catalog" with one of those numbers, you should be able to get those prices.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"Marc" wrote in message
news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06...
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc




Thomas Kendrick September 13th 05 11:31 PM

For the price range you're in, you can have a brand-new Paslode F350S
for $279 plus tax. Uses both clipped-head (D-shape) and Roundrive
(offset round-head) framing nails, paper-collated. I got one used for
about $180 and they are plentiful on eBay.

For the same money, you can have a brand-new Hitachi NR90AD that also
uses clipped-head nails. It's green and VERY light. I have the older
NR83A that uses round-head nails and is a bit more money.

You DO want adjustable depth-of-drive on whatever you get. Using the
sequential-fire trigger with a framer is desirable to avoid doubling.
On the Hitachi, it's a switch. On the Paslode, it's a simple trigger
swap.

If you want to stay in the $250 range, PorterCable has the FR350 (RH)
and FC350 (CH) that should do nicely for you. You do not say whether
you intend to resell the nailer after the job is done.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc


[email protected] September 14th 05 12:47 AM

For a small job why not just use a hammer?
But them I also remember pterodactyles.
MadDog


Luke Kilpatrick September 14th 05 12:50 AM

Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc

I'm a carpenter, and in the past three years we have used Paslode,
Stanley-Bostitch, Hitachi, and Duo-Fast framing nailers. For light duty
work, any of them should give great service. If you want a tough, long
lasting, and highly reliable gun, though, I'd say to go with the Hitachi.
(NOT the new model that looks like a nailgun got diddled by a running shoe,
the plain "tool looking" gun).
Over the years, I've seen many guns bite the schnitzel. The commonest
cause is being dropped 10-30 ft. The Hitachi survival rate is roughly twice
the norm in this circumstance. It is also much more jam resistant. Comes,
as someone may have already mentioned, with a sequential trigger. I don't
enjoy the seq. trigger. It slows you down, and makes some shots (awkward
positions at arms' reach) a lot harder. Having said that, though, I
wouldn't buy a gun that didn't have the feature or a conversion kit.
Framing guns are more dangerous than most people credit, particularly
when clambering around in a roof system. it's SO easy to have your finger
on the trigger and manage to bump your leg into the business end while
climbing around. The seq. trigger addresses that issue.

Good luck, and have Fun!
Luke


Ecnerwal September 14th 05 02:36 AM

In article xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06, Marc
wrote:

I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.


It's called framing hammer, Hart and Vaughn make nice ones. Waffle face,
straight claw, don't go too heavy or you'll wear your arm out - 24 oz is
probably fine. Don't pull nails with the claw - buy a prybar or cats-paw
(or both) to do that. No point to using a expensive, bulky, heavy gun on
a small job. I've yet to meet a job big enough to warrant one, and I've
built a 2000 square foot shop, five 100 square-foot sheds, a garage and
a few other things in the past 3 years. Did you learn carpentry by
watching TV shows with gadgets, or what?

Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones


Other than peeing money away on titanium (for what reason I cannot
imagine), you should have about $220 left in your pocket when you've
bought the hammer. Leaving you with $200 or so when you've bought the
nail-pullers. If you find that you have more money left, you probably
bought a useless Hammer Shaped Object - return it and buy a hammer.

both good and bad comments are welcome.


Use a hammer. Forget the toys. Wear your safety glasses.

--
Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by

Jon Grimm September 14th 05 02:41 AM

food for thought, from what I understand, clipped head nails do not meet the
national building code, which many local munis have adopted.
Personally, I could care less, but it is likely to affect you, it would be
worth researching.
And of course, DON'T ASK a local official!

"Thomas Kendrick" wrote in message
news:1126650552.14e9415f50cfbc75adea6857e34b1abd@t eranews...
For the price range you're in, you can have a brand-new Paslode F350S
for $279 plus tax. Uses both clipped-head (D-shape) and Roundrive
(offset round-head) framing nails, paper-collated. I got one used for
about $180 and they are plentiful on eBay.

For the same money, you can have a brand-new Hitachi NR90AD that also
uses clipped-head nails. It's green and VERY light. I have the older
NR83A that uses round-head nails and is a bit more money.

You DO want adjustable depth-of-drive on whatever you get. Using the
sequential-fire trigger with a framer is desirable to avoid doubling.
On the Hitachi, it's a switch. On the Paslode, it's a simple trigger
swap.

If you want to stay in the $250 range, PorterCable has the FR350 (RH)
and FC350 (CH) that should do nicely for you. You do not say whether
you intend to resell the nailer after the job is done.

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc




RoyJ September 14th 05 03:14 AM

Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you
don't do this regularly.

Ecnerwal wrote:
In article xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06, Marc
wrote:


I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.



It's called framing hammer, Hart and Vaughn make nice ones. Waffle face,
straight claw, don't go too heavy or you'll wear your arm out - 24 oz is
probably fine. Don't pull nails with the claw - buy a prybar or cats-paw
(or both) to do that. No point to using a expensive, bulky, heavy gun on
a small job. I've yet to meet a job big enough to warrant one, and I've
built a 2000 square foot shop, five 100 square-foot sheds, a garage and
a few other things in the past 3 years. Did you learn carpentry by
watching TV shows with gadgets, or what?


Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones



Other than peeing money away on titanium (for what reason I cannot
imagine), you should have about $220 left in your pocket when you've
bought the hammer. Leaving you with $200 or so when you've bought the
nail-pullers. If you find that you have more money left, you probably
bought a useless Hammer Shaped Object - return it and buy a hammer.


both good and bad comments are welcome.



Use a hammer. Forget the toys. Wear your safety glasses.


Thomas Kendrick September 14th 05 03:47 AM

Anything in the 20-23 oz. weight is adequate. Estwing makes a nice 20
oz. with a wood handle if you like the brand but don't want the steel
handle with that nice ringing sound to it.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:44 GMT, RoyJ wrote:

Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you
don't do this regularly.


Gary Brady September 14th 05 03:54 AM

Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc



I have a Stanley-Bostich, and have no complaints with it, but having
used a Senco before, I would recommend it over the Stanley.

I do have an older imported pin nailer that I've had good luck with, but
I recently bought a HF stapler/pin nailer combo, exchanged it due to
malfunction, and finally ended up throwing the second one in the trash.
I would stay away from HF nailers.

Gary Brady
Austin, TX

Gerald Miller September 14th 05 05:16 AM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:47:18 -0500, Thomas Kendrick
wrote:

Anything in the 20-23 oz. weight is adequate. Estwing makes a nice 20
oz. with a wood handle if you like the brand but don't want the steel
handle with that nice ringing sound to it.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:44 GMT, RoyJ wrote:

Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you
don't do this regularly.

My $2 Estwing 20 oz. (steel = leather) did a good job on the nerves in
my left thumb when I was two hitting 2" nails
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Martin H. Eastburn September 14th 05 05:23 AM

Consider a fence nailer. They are smaller, use rolls not sticks of nails
and shoot smaller nails. I think they are 8's downward.

The big framers are 10's. IIRC.

I'm looking at them, but not serious at this minute. Have more than I have to
do than rebuild our wood shop.

Martin
Martin Eastburn
@ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net
NRA LOH, NRA Life
NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder



Marc wrote:
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc


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Roger Shoaf September 14th 05 06:39 AM

Beware of buying a clipped head or T head nailer. Some jurisdictions
require full nail heads.

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?


"Bob Chilcoat" wrote in message
...
It so happens that just noticed some "Contractor Series" ones in HF for
$88.95. Reduced from $149.99-$199.95. 10 Gauge, with 21,28, or 34 degree
mags (linear, not cylindrical). The catalog #'s are as follows:

04041-5CBA - 21 degree full head
91053-2CBA - 28 degree clipped head
91054-3CBA - 34 degree clipped head

There is also
93099-0CBA - 34 degree clipped head for 79.99 in the same catalog

All look about the same, except for the mag angle, and take 10 gauge nails
from 2" to 3.5". I've had good luck with a $19.99 brad nailer I bought
years ago. Cheap and works well. If you go online and "Order from

printed
catalog" with one of those numbers, you should be able to get those

prices.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"Marc" wrote in message
news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06...
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc






Karl Vorwerk September 14th 05 12:25 PM

My father had one of those brad nailers and was very pleased with it.
Karl

"Bob Chilcoat" wrote in message
...
It so happens that just noticed some "Contractor Series" ones in HF for
$88.95. Reduced from $149.99-$199.95. 10 Gauge, with 21,28, or 34 degree
mags (linear, not cylindrical). The catalog #'s are as follows:

04041-5CBA - 21 degree full head
91053-2CBA - 28 degree clipped head
91054-3CBA - 34 degree clipped head

There is also
93099-0CBA - 34 degree clipped head for 79.99 in the same catalog

All look about the same, except for the mag angle, and take 10 gauge nails
from 2" to 3.5". I've had good luck with a $19.99 brad nailer I bought
years ago. Cheap and works well. If you go online and "Order from
printed catalog" with one of those numbers, you should be able to get
those prices.

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)


"Marc" wrote in message
news:xhFVe.240$si2.170@trnddc06...
Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc






George September 14th 05 02:30 PM

Gerald Miller wrote:
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:47:18 -0500, Thomas Kendrick
wrote:


Anything in the 20-23 oz. weight is adequate. Estwing makes a nice 20
oz. with a wood handle if you like the brand but don't want the steel
handle with that nice ringing sound to it.

On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 02:14:44 GMT, RoyJ wrote:


Hammer is good. Eastwing is good. 22oz is as big as you should go if you
don't do this regularly.


My $2 Estwing 20 oz. (steel = leather) did a good job on the nerves in
my left thumb when I was two hitting 2" nails
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

Wrong nail!

[email protected] September 14th 05 05:42 PM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.


Why not hire one ? I built a 300 square metre deck for my
neighbours and hired a Paslode nailer for $50. Well worth it. One
squeeze of trigger or up to 7 hammer strikes to do the same thing.
Had to use the hammer for minor mods, not worth hiring for 20 minutes
work and 60 km travel to collect & return it.
Alan
in beautiful Golden Bay, Western Oz, South 32.25.42, East 115.45.44 GMT+8
VK6 YAB ICQ 6581610 to reply, change oz to au in address

Don Foreman September 15th 05 05:14 AM

On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.
Does anybody have some experience with the $249 range ones, and
both good and bad comments are welcome.
Gunner what one do you have ? or used in the past.
Cliffie don't bother to reply.
Tweety Byrd...hmmm do you do ANY manual labor ?
Aye
Marc


I asked my neighbor (a contractor) about that today. He has a Bosch
framing nailer that he is very pleased with after many thousands of
nails. He uses it some on nearly every job.


Tom Wait September 28th 05 02:05 AM


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:56:29 GMT, Marc wrote:

Hi Y'all,
I am in need of a framing nailer, to be used just lightly.
I am not building a house just a shed and shade cloth area.

I just bought a reconditioned Paslode for 160 bucks to build a 200 sq. ft.
addition. I'm happy with it. A Senco is probably more durable. The Paslode
has a longer magazine, thus less reloads. Been a union carpenter for 30 +
years. I know of what I speak. You'll need a hammer also. Fiberglass handles
are best. Plumb makes a nice one. I've got 2, 16 oz. a straight and a cuved
claw. both old and work like new. The inspector passed my work with clipped
head nails in Milwaukee. Check your local codes. Definitly use air power.
Save your arm for hoisting beers after your long day of building.;-)




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