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On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 13:40:18 -0700, rbowman wrote:
On 12/01/2019 11:53 AM, wrote: I was a teamster (local 639) in DC for a summer but it was all around town, delivering chickens and beef. I did get to know some over the road guys in the Children's Band radio days. They do seem to be a different sort of person. I was working midnights and it seemed I was always talking to the same guys at about the same time, going around the beltway, most nights. They seemed to be making the same runs over and over. It sounded pretty boring to me but I guess they weren't standing at 20th and K with a hind quarter on their shoulder waiting for the light. ;-) The east coast is different. There are a lot of short runs between cities. They tend to spend all day getting a load then drive all night to unload in the morning, rinse and repeat. I don't know how they do it. Most of my runs were at least a thousand miles. The money makers for the company were carpets and furniture. I'd haul carpet out of LA to Dalton GA, Denver, Brooklyn, Seattle, and so forth. Out of Dalton I'd bring Georgia carpet back to LA or Vegas, usually. The other option was bopping around the southeast picking up furniture and bringing it to the Mississippi terminal. A lot of the Mississippi furniture went out by rail, but there were always hot loads going back west. The nature of that sort of operation meant you'd get strange loads to reposition you for paying loads. Peanuts from New Mexico to LA, scrap batteries from Denver to LA, and so forth. Groceries were the ones that really sucked. Most grocery warehouses don't unload the truck. You either do it yourself or hire a lumper for $100 or so. The lumpers were outside contractors that were somebody's cousin or paid off the warehouse foreman. One time I thought I was golden since the stuff was on pallets. The dickhead informed me the stacking pattern wasn't correct and they would all have to be restacked to meet their requirements. It was fun for a while. Most years I'd get back home in November, clean the truck out, and head to southern Arizona for the winter. In the spring I'd trickle back, throw my junk in another truck, and hit the road. Seniority didn't buy you much. Work for your dispatcher and you got good runs. Slack off, not meet schedules, and you'd get **** runs. I knew some guys who were running Baltimore to Jacksonville 2 or 3 times a week. There were other guys with regular routes up and down I-95 and they liked to do it at night. One guy was running coal from West Virginia to Dahlgren Va. It was real pretty stuff, shiny anthracite that looked like black diamonds. I rescued him one night on 270 and we were buddies. He gave me a pile of that and it I burned it in my coal stove for a couple years. |
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On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 13:56:12 -0700, rbowman wrote:
what I really liked in Ontario was the men only beerhalls. They call those gay bars now. |
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On 12/1/2019 7:29 PM, Barb wrote:
On 12/1/2019 6:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:00:35 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 08:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... In courts here in Delaware if defendant is found against them blame is apportioned.ツ* You do not sue for a dollar value but essentially for damages.ツ* If it were determined that it was 90% her fault, as most here would agree, she might recover 10% of the damages. ツ*From my limited experence in NC traffic laws if even 1 percent of an accident is your fault, then it is up to each driver to fix their own car. Say you are going down the roadツ* and decide to turn in a drive way, there is a minimum distance where you are suppose to turn on the turn signal.ツ* If someone rams you from behind, it is still partly your fault if you did not signal atleast that far ahead of time. Sounds like Mexican traffic law. Whoever is still at the scene when the cops arrive is the party at fault. One of my DC cop buddies said if they pulled up on a property damage accident and anyone wanted them to write a report they were giving everyone a ticket. Usually they decided they could deal with it themselves. And what if my insurance company requires an accident report? Are the fat ****ers too busy inhaling donuts? I had experience of insurance company not requiring one when a deer ran into me. But, last year they said it was a good idea when I had a hit and run parked somewhere. I did not even pick up the dented fender for a couple of days as it was on the passengers side. Police were very nice in coming to my house to write it up. |
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On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:29:17 -0500, Barb wrote:
On 12/1/2019 6:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:00:35 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 08:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... In courts here in Delaware if defendant is found against them blame is apportioned. You do not sue for a dollar value but essentially for damages. If it were determined that it was 90% her fault, as most here would agree, she might recover 10% of the damages. From my limited experence in NC traffic laws if even 1 percent of an accident is your fault, then it is up to each driver to fix their own car. Say you are going down the road and decide to turn in a drive way, there is a minimum distance where you are suppose to turn on the turn signal. If someone rams you from behind, it is still partly your fault if you did not signal atleast that far ahead of time. Sounds like Mexican traffic law. Whoever is still at the scene when the cops arrive is the party at fault. One of my DC cop buddies said if they pulled up on a property damage accident and anyone wanted them to write a report they were giving everyone a ticket. Usually they decided they could deal with it themselves. And what if my insurance company requires an accident report? Are the fat ****ers too busy inhaling donuts? You can file your own report with the police. There is no legal reason for a cop to be there for property damage accidents. It is a civil matter and if the cop didn't see it, he doesn't have much to add to what you write. These guys stay pretty busy running real calls, they don't want to be screwing with broken tail lights and bent fenders. This not moving your car and waiting for the cop thing might work in Mayberry but in the big city, they want you to get off the road if you can and call a tow truck. |
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On 12/01/2019 05:51 PM, Frank wrote:
I had experience of insurance company not requiring one when a deer ran into me. But, last year they said it was a good idea when I had a hit and run parked somewhere. I did not even pick up the dented fender for a couple of days as it was on the passengers side. Police were very nice in coming to my house to write it up. I never bothered having the damage fixed but after the deer attempted suicide by jumping on my hood he fled the scene. |
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On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 21:06:15 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/1/2019 6:58 PM, wrote: Isn't it better to man up and accept the consequences of your actions? Just forfeiting the collateral to get them to ignore you to "failing appear" seems like the cowardly way out. That is what you are doing when you "pay a ticket". I was standing there in front of a judge prepared to defend my actions with the chance that I could end up paying more than the collateral on the ticket. How much more manning up do you want? Traffic court is a crap shoot. I've heard plenty of stories good and bad. My favorite was years ago in Philadelphia. Must have been 100 of us there hoping to get out of or at least a lesser charge. Door opens and the bailiff announces: Court is now in session, the Honorable Judge Whoever presiding. Judge sits and say "how do you plead: so every one of us says "NOT Guilty" and the judge responded "Dismissed" I guess he had an early Tee time. They went the other way in Lee County traffic court. The judge said "You all had the opportunity to forfeit collateral and not waste my time but if you want a trial you can have on. Just know, my guilty verdicts come with fines of $500 and up so if you want to reconsider there is a table in back where you can pay". I suppose a good lawyer would be able to make a case that there was something unconstitutional there but pretty much everyone paid. In Maryland traffic court, the normal outcome was half the fine and half the points so it was worth doing. |
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On 12/1/19 9:01 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:29:17 -0500, Barb wrote: On 12/1/2019 6:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:00:35 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 08:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... In courts here in Delaware if defendant is found against them blame is apportioned. You do not sue for a dollar value but essentially for damages. If it were determined that it was 90% her fault, as most here would agree, she might recover 10% of the damages. From my limited experence in NC traffic laws if even 1 percent of an accident is your fault, then it is up to each driver to fix their own car. Say you are going down the road and decide to turn in a drive way, there is a minimum distance where you are suppose to turn on the turn signal. If someone rams you from behind, it is still partly your fault if you did not signal atleast that far ahead of time. Sounds like Mexican traffic law. Whoever is still at the scene when the cops arrive is the party at fault. One of my DC cop buddies said if they pulled up on a property damage accident and anyone wanted them to write a report they were giving everyone a ticket. Usually they decided they could deal with it themselves. And what if my insurance company requires an accident report? Are the fat ****ers too busy inhaling donuts? You can file your own report with the police. There is no legal reason for a cop to be there for property damage accidents. It is a civil matter and if the cop didn't see it, he doesn't have much to add to what you write. These guys stay pretty busy running real calls, they don't want to be screwing with broken tail lights and bent fenders. This not moving your car and waiting for the cop thing might work in Mayberry but in the big city, they want you to get off the road if you can and call a tow truck. So if a taxpayer asks them to do the job they are paid to do, the taxpayer is threatened with a ticket? Yah, the DC swamp needs to be drained. |
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 06:13:07 -0500, drain-the-swamp
wrote: On 12/1/19 9:01 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:29:17 -0500, Barb wrote: On 12/1/2019 6:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:00:35 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 08:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... In courts here in Delaware if defendant is found against them blame is apportioned. You do not sue for a dollar value but essentially for damages. If it were determined that it was 90% her fault, as most here would agree, she might recover 10% of the damages. From my limited experence in NC traffic laws if even 1 percent of an accident is your fault, then it is up to each driver to fix their own car. Say you are going down the road and decide to turn in a drive way, there is a minimum distance where you are suppose to turn on the turn signal. If someone rams you from behind, it is still partly your fault if you did not signal atleast that far ahead of time. Sounds like Mexican traffic law. Whoever is still at the scene when the cops arrive is the party at fault. One of my DC cop buddies said if they pulled up on a property damage accident and anyone wanted them to write a report they were giving everyone a ticket. Usually they decided they could deal with it themselves. And what if my insurance company requires an accident report? Are the fat ****ers too busy inhaling donuts? You can file your own report with the police. There is no legal reason for a cop to be there for property damage accidents. It is a civil matter and if the cop didn't see it, he doesn't have much to add to what you write. These guys stay pretty busy running real calls, they don't want to be screwing with broken tail lights and bent fenders. This not moving your car and waiting for the cop thing might work in Mayberry but in the big city, they want you to get off the road if you can and call a tow truck. So if a taxpayer asks them to do the job they are paid to do, the taxpayer is threatened with a ticket? Yah, the DC swamp needs to be drained. It is more like the tax payer would rather have them running the 30-35 felony calls they get a day than screwing around with traffic accidents that they really have no function in. Tell me again, what does a cop who never saw a thing add to this civil problem between two bad drivers? You can bet your ass they are both blaming the other guy so why not write them both tickets? Let the court sort it out. |
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On 12/1/2019 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 12/01/2019 05:51 PM, Frank wrote: I had experience of insurance company not requiring one when a deer ran into me.ツ* But, last year they said it was a good idea when I had a hit and run parked somewhere.ツ* I did not even pick up the dented fender for a couple of days as it was on the passengers side.ツ* Police were very nice in coming to my house to write it up. I never bothered having the damage fixed but after the deer attempted suicide by jumping on my hood he fled the scene. My deer committed suicide and repair cost was $2,400. He truly hit me. Came out of nowhere giving me no time to brake or swerve. |
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On 12/2/2019 6:42 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 06:13:07 -0500, drain-the-swamp wrote: On 12/1/19 9:01 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:29:17 -0500, Barb wrote: On 12/1/2019 6:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:00:35 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 08:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... In courts here in Delaware if defendant is found against them blame is apportioned. You do not sue for a dollar value but essentially for damages. If it were determined that it was 90% her fault, as most here would agree, she might recover 10% of the damages. From my limited experence in NC traffic laws if even 1 percent of an accident is your fault, then it is up to each driver to fix their own car. Say you are going down the road and decide to turn in a drive way, there is a minimum distance where you are suppose to turn on the turn signal. If someone rams you from behind, it is still partly your fault if you did not signal atleast that far ahead of time. Sounds like Mexican traffic law. Whoever is still at the scene when the cops arrive is the party at fault. One of my DC cop buddies said if they pulled up on a property damage accident and anyone wanted them to write a report they were giving everyone a ticket. Usually they decided they could deal with it themselves. And what if my insurance company requires an accident report? Are the fat ****ers too busy inhaling donuts? You can file your own report with the police. There is no legal reason for a cop to be there for property damage accidents. It is a civil matter and if the cop didn't see it, he doesn't have much to add to what you write. These guys stay pretty busy running real calls, they don't want to be screwing with broken tail lights and bent fenders. This not moving your car and waiting for the cop thing might work in Mayberry but in the big city, they want you to get off the road if you can and call a tow truck. So if a taxpayer asks them to do the job they are paid to do, the taxpayer is threatened with a ticket? Yah, the DC swamp needs to be drained. It is more like the tax payer would rather have them running the 30-35 felony calls they get a day than screwing around with traffic accidents that they really have no function in. Tell me again, what does a cop who never saw a thing add to this civil problem between two bad drivers? You can bet your ass they are both blaming the other guy so why not write them both tickets? Let the court sort it out. Yet they always have time to hide in the bushes and wait for seat-belt scofflaws. |
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On 12/2/2019 7:32 AM, Frank wrote:
On 12/1/2019 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 05:51 PM, Frank wrote: I had experience of insurance company not requiring one when a deer ran into me.ツ* But, last year they said it was a good idea when I had a hit and run parked somewhere.ツ* I did not even pick up the dented fender for a couple of days as it was on the passengers side.ツ* Police were very nice in coming to my house to write it up. I never bothered having the damage fixed but after the deer attempted suicide by jumping on my hood he fled the scene. My deer committed suicide and repair cost was $2,400.ツ* He truly hit me. Came out of nowhere giving me no time to brake or swerve. Sue PETA. If not for them that deer would have been on the dinner table months ago. |
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On 12/2/19 10:11 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says... does a cop who never saw a thing add to this civil problem between two bad drivers? You can bet your ass they are both blaming the other guy so why not write them both tickets? Let the court sort it out. Yet they always have time to hide in the bushes and wait for seat-belt scofflaws. Maybe insead of the city police just having general officers, they should have a lower paid traffic devision where they just go around handling traffic calls, and maybe spending the time where they are not checking traffic patrolling shopping center parking lots looking for other law breakers. Due to insurance fraud, some insurance companies now demand documentation for even minor auto accidents.ツ* If you don't comply with their heavy-handed rules...no soup for you! Maybe instead of the democrats wasting time and tax dollars on the Trump witch-hunt, maybe the lazy slugs could create some better insurance laws for the customers who pay the premiums?ツ* Or maybe the lazy elected slugs could do something useful by policing the minor auto accidents?ツ* Or maybe the insurance company should send an investigator out to the accident if they want documentation?ツ* I know, wishful thinking. |
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On 12/2/2019 9:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/2/2019 7:32 AM, Frank wrote: On 12/1/2019 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 05:51 PM, Frank wrote: I had experience of insurance company not requiring one when a deer ran into me.ツ* But, last year they said it was a good idea when I had a hit and run parked somewhere.ツ* I did not even pick up the dented fender for a couple of days as it was on the passengers side.ツ* Police were very nice in coming to my house to write it up. I never bothered having the damage fixed but after the deer attempted suicide by jumping on my hood he fled the scene. My deer committed suicide and repair cost was $2,400.ツ* He truly hit me. Came out of nowhere giving me no time to brake or swerve. Sue PETA.ツ* If not for them that deer would have been on the dinner table months ago. The irony is that I was returning from deer hunting. It came out of a bank parking lot of all places. I could have gone back to get it but was more concerned about damage to the car. Good thing was with this kind of accident, I had paid no deductible. I thought damage was slight but repair shop found stuff beneath and it took a week. Spent part of that time taking a defensive driving course on line which reduced car insurance cost 15%. I told someone the next day and I think he retrieved it for his dogs. The police just dragged it off the road after I called them. |
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On 12/2/2019 11:26 AM, fuxt wrote:
On 12/2/19 10:11 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... does a cop who never saw a thing add to this civil problem between two bad drivers? You can bet your ass they are both blaming the other guy so why not write them both tickets? Let the court sort it out. Yet they always have time to hide in the bushes and wait for seat-belt scofflaws. Maybe insead of the city police just having general officers, they should have a lower paid traffic devision where they just go around handling traffic calls, and maybe spending the time where they are not checking traffic patrolling shopping center parking lots looking for other law breakers. Due to insurance fraud, some insurance companies now demand documentation for even minor auto accidents.ツ* If you don't comply with their heavy-handed rules...no soup for you! Maybe instead of the democrats wasting time and tax dollars on the Trump witch-hunt, maybe the lazy slugs could create some better insurance laws for the customers who pay the premiums?ツ* Or maybe the lazy elected slugs could do something useful by policing the minor auto accidents?ツ* Or maybe the insurance company should send an investigator out to the accident if they want documentation?ツ* I know, wishful thinking. One of our sons is an insurance company lawyer. I hear it from both sides. Some people get a scratch on their car, they think they have won the lottery. They bring in evidence of injuries for things like bad backs which were bad before the accident. There are even shady doctors that will lie for them. Ends up increasing cost of insurance for all of us. |
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 08:38:00 -0500, Barb wrote:
On 12/2/2019 6:42 AM, wrote: On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 06:13:07 -0500, drain-the-swamp wrote: On 12/1/19 9:01 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 19:29:17 -0500, Barb wrote: On 12/1/2019 6:53 PM, wrote: On Sun, 1 Dec 2019 12:00:35 -0700, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 08:32 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , "frank says... In courts here in Delaware if defendant is found against them blame is apportioned. You do not sue for a dollar value but essentially for damages. If it were determined that it was 90% her fault, as most here would agree, she might recover 10% of the damages. From my limited experence in NC traffic laws if even 1 percent of an accident is your fault, then it is up to each driver to fix their own car. Say you are going down the road and decide to turn in a drive way, there is a minimum distance where you are suppose to turn on the turn signal. If someone rams you from behind, it is still partly your fault if you did not signal atleast that far ahead of time. Sounds like Mexican traffic law. Whoever is still at the scene when the cops arrive is the party at fault. One of my DC cop buddies said if they pulled up on a property damage accident and anyone wanted them to write a report they were giving everyone a ticket. Usually they decided they could deal with it themselves. And what if my insurance company requires an accident report? Are the fat ****ers too busy inhaling donuts? You can file your own report with the police. There is no legal reason for a cop to be there for property damage accidents. It is a civil matter and if the cop didn't see it, he doesn't have much to add to what you write. These guys stay pretty busy running real calls, they don't want to be screwing with broken tail lights and bent fenders. This not moving your car and waiting for the cop thing might work in Mayberry but in the big city, they want you to get off the road if you can and call a tow truck. So if a taxpayer asks them to do the job they are paid to do, the taxpayer is threatened with a ticket? Yah, the DC swamp needs to be drained. It is more like the tax payer would rather have them running the 30-35 felony calls they get a day than screwing around with traffic accidents that they really have no function in. Tell me again, what does a cop who never saw a thing add to this civil problem between two bad drivers? You can bet your ass they are both blaming the other guy so why not write them both tickets? Let the court sort it out. Yet they always have time to hide in the bushes and wait for seat-belt scofflaws. You were not going to see much of that in DC, at least not in the 80s when I was there. The cops were booking 250 or 300 murders a year and close to half went unsolved, they were working over 1000 armed robberies a year along with the aggravated assaults, rapes and miscellaneous "man with a gun" calls. The only traffic they worked was in response to specific complaints or places with a rash of fatal/serious injury accidents. |
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On 12/2/2019 11:26 AM, fuxt wrote:
Maybe instead of the democrats wasting time and tax dollars on the Trump witch-hunt, maybe the lazy slugs could create some better insurance laws for the customers who pay the premiums?ツ* Or maybe the lazy elected slugs could do something useful by policing the minor auto accidents?ツ* Or maybe the insurance company should send an investigator out to the accident if they want documentation?ツ* I know, wishful thinking. So your car gets hit, now you want to wait for the insurance company to send an investigator? Yeah, that makes sense. Sometimes you need the police. When I got hit the police came in minutes, three of them. No one hurt but ambulance showed up too. Drunk lady that hit me was taken away in handcuffs, I went to the station and gave a statement, report was available for the insurance. Really easy. Back in 1982 I hit a young lady on a bicycle and put her into the windshield. Police established blame, had a witness, she was liable. My insurance paid for my car because she had nothing to collect from but they paid nothing for her medical bills. This was about 7:30 AM and she was on her way home from a party when she turned right in front of me. |
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On 12/2/2019 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
One of our sons is an insurance company lawyer.ツ* I hear it from both sides.ツ* Some people get a scratch on their car, they think they have won the lottery.ツ* They bring in evidence of injuries for things like bad backs which were bad before the accident.ツ* There are even shady doctors that will lie for them.ツ* Ends up increasing cost of insurance for all of us. Right. I have no problem paying legitimate claims but it seems there are huge payouts if you are willing to wear a neck brace for a few weeks. Ever watch Judge Judy? She often asks the plaintiff where they work. Often the answer is "I'm on disability" Seems to be a disproportionate amount of people on disability looking for another payday. |
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On 12/2/2019 2:53 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/2/2019 11:26 AM, fuxt wrote: Maybe instead of the democrats wasting time and tax dollars on the Trump witch-hunt, maybe the lazy slugs could create some better insurance laws for the customers who pay the premiums?ツ* Or maybe the lazy elected slugs could do something useful by policing the minor auto accidents?ツ* Or maybe the insurance company should send an investigator out to the accident if they want documentation?ツ* I know, wishful thinking. So your car gets hit, now you want to wait for the insurance company to send an investigator?ツ* Yeah, that makes sense. Sometimes you need the police. When I got hit the police came in minutes, three of them.ツ* No one hurt but ambulance showed up too.ツ* Drunk lady that hit me was taken away in handcuffs, I went to the station and gave a statement, report was available for the insurance.ツ* Really easy. Back in 1982 I hit a young lady on a bicycle and put her into the windshield.ツ* Police established blame, had a witness, she was liable. My insurance paid for my car because she had nothing to collect from but they paid nothing for her medical bills. This was about 7:30 AM and she was on her way home from a party when she turned right in front of me. I had an accident last year and found insurance company gets hosed by others. We had to fight to get my car out of impound which was charging them a high daily fee. Hospital was also double billing them. Whenever there is a pile of money available the vultures start circling. |
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Ed Pawlowski writes:
On 12/2/2019 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: One of our sons is an insurance company lawyer.ツ* I hear it from both sides.ツ* Some people get a scratch on their car, they think they have won the lottery.ツ* They bring in evidence of injuries for things like bad backs which were bad before the accident.ツ* There are even shady doctors that will lie for them.ツ* Ends up increasing cost of insurance for all of us. Right. I have no problem paying legitimate claims but it seems there are huge payouts if you are willing to wear a neck brace for a few weeks. Ever watch Judge Judy? JJ is entertainment, nothing more. If you think the real world is anything like JJ, then you're not thinking clearly. Even if, and it's a longshot, anything they say on the program represents reality, it's a corner case, not the normal. It's sad that anyone would draw conclusions about their fellow americans based on a really stupid TV show. |
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On 12/2/2019 11:54 AM, Frank wrote:
On 12/2/2019 11:26 AM, fuxt wrote: On 12/2/19 10:11 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... does a cop who never saw a thing add to this civil problem between two bad drivers? You can bet your ass they are both blaming the other guy so why not write them both tickets? Let the court sort it out. Yet they always have time to hide in the bushes and wait for seat-belt scofflaws. Maybe insead of the city police just having general officers, they should have a lower paid traffic devision where they just go around handling traffic calls, and maybe spending the time where they are not checking traffic patrolling shopping center parking lots looking for other law breakers. Due to insurance fraud, some insurance companies now demand documentation for even minor auto accidents.ツ* If you don't comply with their heavy-handed rules...no soup for you! Maybe instead of the democrats wasting time and tax dollars on the Trump witch-hunt, maybe the lazy slugs could create some better insurance laws for the customers who pay the premiums? Or maybe the lazy elected slugs could do something useful by policing the minor auto accidents?ツ* Or maybe the insurance company should send an investigator out to the accident if they want documentation?ツ* I know, wishful thinking. One of our sons is an insurance company lawyer.ツ* I hear it from both sides.ツ* Some people get a scratch on their car, they think they have won the lottery.ツ* They bring in evidence of injuries for things like bad backs which were bad before the accident.ツ* There are even shady doctors that will lie for them.ツ* Ends up increasing cost of insurance for all of us. Yah, the US has a lot of welfare democrats so I imagine the insurance companies are the victims of a lot of fraud. -- Get off my lawn! |
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On 12/2/2019 3:33 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Ed Pawlowski writes: On 12/2/2019 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: One of our sons is an insurance company lawyer.テつ* I hear it from both sides.テつ* Some people get a scratch on their car, they think they have won the lottery.テつ* They bring in evidence of injuries for things like bad backs which were bad before the accident.テつ* There are even shady doctors that will lie for them.テつ* Ends up increasing cost of insurance for all of us. Right. I have no problem paying legitimate claims but it seems there are huge payouts if you are willing to wear a neck brace for a few weeks. Ever watch Judge Judy? JJ is entertainment, nothing more. If you think the real world is anything like JJ, then you're not thinking clearly. Even if, and it's a longshot, anything they say on the program represents reality, it's a corner case, not the normal. It's sad that anyone would draw conclusions about their fellow americans based on a really stupid TV show. It may be entertainment but it still shows a trend. They were real court cases before the show. Ehat is stupis is the number of people that get away with crap like that. |
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Ed Pawlowski writes:
On 12/2/2019 3:33 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote: Ed Pawlowski writes: On 12/2/2019 11:54 AM, Frank wrote: One of our sons is an insurance company lawyer.テつ* I hear it from both sides.テつ* Some people get a scratch on their car, they think they have won the lottery.テつ* They bring in evidence of injuries for things like bad backs which were bad before the accident.テつ* There are even shady doctors that will lie for them.テつ* Ends up increasing cost of insurance for all of us. Right. I have no problem paying legitimate claims but it seems there are huge payouts if you are willing to wear a neck brace for a few weeks. Ever watch Judge Judy? JJ is entertainment, nothing more. If you think the real world is anything like JJ, then you're not thinking clearly. Even if, and it's a longshot, anything they say on the program represents reality, it's a corner case, not the normal. It's sad that anyone would draw conclusions about their fellow americans based on a really stupid TV show. It may be entertainment but it still shows a trend. They were real court cases before the show. Ehat is stupis is the number of people that get away with crap like that. Actually, it doesn't show anything like a trend. Do you think they would ever pick a boring case with no drama such as is the reality of 99.9999% of court cases in the legal system? No, they pick sensationalist cases that attract eyeballs; they're no different than the National Inquirer or the Daily Mail; pure sensationalism. You're taking selection bias to the extreme by applying anything from that show to reality. |
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On 12/1/2019 2:31 PM, Hawk wrote:
On 12/1/2019 1:51 PM, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 07:17 AM, Hawk wrote: OR maybe I don't care to ruffle through the abundant links you provide because it doesn't remove the fact that hot is hot. Anyone who purchases food from a drive thru is at risk of causing harm to themselves and/or others from spills of food or worse, hot beverages. And maybe I simply believe that drivers should focus on driving instead of eating, drinking hot beverages or removing the lids, texting or anything that diverts the attention from their driving. Family, friends or otherwise, I'd say the same. If common sense makes me callous, so be it. The woman in question was not driving and the vehicle was not in motion. She was 79 with her grandson at the wheel. After getting the coffee he had pulled aside to let her add the cream and sugar. Correct, I acknowledge that in another reply and also added I'm skeptical of the pulling over. Attorney's will advise to say so otherwise, they hang themselves. I also stated in another reply that driver or passenger(s) assume the risk of injury as a passenger is not aware of what lies ahead while driving. If it's true they did indeed pullover, the lady is still at fault for being clumsy. Simply put, hot is hot and people know it. 109 + degrees burns skin. Hot beverages are all over 109 degrees. Drink at your own risk. ツ* I'm calling bull**** on that 109ツー degrees . I mean , that's only 10ツー above body temp ! The burn temp is more like 120-125ツー , and that depends on the age and health of the person involved . I keep my main water heater set at 125ツー , and rinse off in the shower under straight hot water . Not everybody likes it that hot but it won't burn the average adult . Now the small w/h under the house that supplies the kitchen sink and the dishwasher is set at max , around 140-145ツー for sanitation reasons (it's fed from the main w/h). -- Snag Yes , I'm old and crochety - and armed . Get outta my woods ! |
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On Mon, 2 Dec 2019 21:02:03 -0600, Terry Coombs
wrote: On 12/1/2019 2:31 PM, Hawk wrote: On 12/1/2019 1:51 PM, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 07:17 AM, Hawk wrote: OR maybe I don't care to ruffle through the abundant links you provide because it doesn't remove the fact that hot is hot. Anyone who purchases food from a drive thru is at risk of causing harm to themselves and/or others from spills of food or worse, hot beverages. And maybe I simply believe that drivers should focus on driving instead of eating, drinking hot beverages or removing the lids, texting or anything that diverts the attention from their driving. Family, friends or otherwise, I'd say the same. If common sense makes me callous, so be it. The woman in question was not driving and the vehicle was not in motion. She was 79 with her grandson at the wheel. After getting the coffee he had pulled aside to let her add the cream and sugar. Correct, I acknowledge that in another reply and also added I'm skeptical of the pulling over. Attorney's will advise to say so otherwise, they hang themselves. I also stated in another reply that driver or passenger(s) assume the risk of injury as a passenger is not aware of what lies ahead while driving. If it's true they did indeed pullover, the lady is still at fault for being clumsy. Simply put, hot is hot and people know it. 109 + degrees burns skin. Hot beverages are all over 109 degrees. Drink at your own risk. * I'm calling bull**** on that 109ー degrees . I mean , that's only 10ー above body temp ! The burn temp is more like 120-125ー , and that depends on the age and health of the person involved . I keep my main water heater set at 125ー , and rinse off in the shower under straight hot water . Not everybody likes it that hot but it won't burn the average adult . Now the small w/h under the house that supplies the kitchen sink and the dishwasher is set at max , around 140-145ー for sanitation reasons (it's fed from the main w/h). At 120F water will cause 1st degree burns in 8 minutes and 3rd in 10 At 125F water will cause 1st degree burns in 2 minutes and 3rd in 4 At 130F water will cause 1st degree burns in 17 seconds and 3rd in 30 At 140F water will cause 1st degree burns in 3 seconds and 3rd in 5 At 155 water will cause 1st degree burns instantly and 3rd in 1 sec. |
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On 12/02/2019 07:44 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/2/2019 7:32 AM, Frank wrote: On 12/1/2019 10:05 PM, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 05:51 PM, Frank wrote: I had experience of insurance company not requiring one when a deer ran into me. But, last year they said it was a good idea when I had a hit and run parked somewhere. I did not even pick up the dented fender for a couple of days as it was on the passengers side. Police were very nice in coming to my house to write it up. I never bothered having the damage fixed but after the deer attempted suicide by jumping on my hood he fled the scene. My deer committed suicide and repair cost was $2,400. He truly hit me. Came out of nowhere giving me no time to brake or swerve. Sue PETA. If not for them that deer would have been on the dinner table months ago. PETA doesn't have much traction in this state and there still are too many damn deer. https://townsquare.media/site/119/fi.../city-deer.jpg In truth the city deer aren't a traffic problem. They are so used to cars they look both ways before crossing the street. The one I hit was up on the rez and they're a little more skittish. |
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On 12/2/2019 10:02 PM, Terry Coombs wrote:
On 12/1/2019 2:31 PM, Hawk wrote: On 12/1/2019 1:51 PM, rbowman wrote: On 12/01/2019 07:17 AM, Hawk wrote: OR maybe I don't care to ruffle through the abundant links you provide because it doesn't remove the fact that hot is hot. Anyone who purchases food from a drive thru is at risk of causing harm to themselves and/or others from spills of food or worse, hot beverages. And maybe I simply believe that drivers should focus on driving instead of eating, drinking hot beverages or removing the lids, texting or anything that diverts the attention from their driving. Family, friends or otherwise, I'd say the same. If common sense makes me callous, so be it. The woman in question was not driving and the vehicle was not in motion. She was 79 with her grandson at the wheel. After getting the coffee he had pulled aside to let her add the cream and sugar. Correct, I acknowledge that in another reply and also added I'm skeptical of the pulling over. Attorney's will advise to say so otherwise, they hang themselves. I also stated in another reply that driver or passenger(s) assume the risk of injury as a passenger is not aware of what lies ahead while driving. If it's true they did indeed pullover, the lady is still at fault for being clumsy. Simply put, hot is hot and people know it. 109 + degrees burns skin. Hot beverages are all over 109 degrees. Drink at your own risk. ツ* I'm calling bull**** on that 109ツー degrees . I mean , that's only 10ツー above body temp ! The burn temp is more like 120-125ツー , and that depends on the age and health of the person involved . I keep my main water heater set at 125ツー , and rinse off in the shower under straight hot water . Not everybody likes it that hot but it won't burn the average adult . Now the small w/h under the house that supplies the kitchen sink and the dishwasher is set at max , around 140-145ツー for sanitation reasons (it's fed from the main w/h). You're correct, my mistake. I failed to view time exposure and instead, quickly glanced at this website. http://burncentrecare.co.uk/about_burned_skin.html Though, 120 or higher can cause burns, maybe not 3rd degree, but hot enough to cause an accident if driving and discomfort if not. Coffee is brewed hotter than 120. |
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