Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543

On 10/05/2015 03:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:14:32 -0400, look wrote in


On 10/05/2015 03:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

It looks like other screwdrives that Ace sells are available for ship
to home.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19153956
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1294494

My guess is that most products sold by Ace, are actually shipped by
the manufacturer. Some manufacturers may not ship to home. In that
case, buy someplace else.
--
Web based forums are like subscribing to 10 different newspapers
and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

On 10/05/2015 01:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


Those are deadly weapons and the store needs to check you out to make
sure you're not a terrorist. You can avoid the issue with:

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19617406

A pink box cutter couldn't possibly be used for evil ends.

Or if you really want screwdrivers;

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=49856046

I think CRNG nailed it; so manufacturers don't do drop shipments.

On 10/5/2015 4:04 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:14:32 -0400, look wrote in


On 10/05/2015 03:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

It looks like other screwdrives that Ace sells are available for ship
to home.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19153956
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1294494

My guess is that most products sold by Ace, are actually shipped by
the manufacturer. Some manufacturers may not ship to home. In that
case, buy someplace else.

+1

AFAICT, Ace doesn't *make* anything -- even the "Ace-branded" items
that they sell. So, most probably arrange for the firm that *does*
manufacture the items to do the drop shipments... either to their
*stores* or end users. This one probably doesn't want to deal
with onesie-twosie shipments (to homes), just bulk shipments (to
stores).

On 10/5/2015 12:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff.

They figure yer already screwed up enough, son.
LOL

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:11:51 -0700, Don Y
wrote:

On 10/5/2015 4:04 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:14:32 -0400, look wrote in


On 10/05/2015 03:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

It looks like other screwdrives that Ace sells are available for ship
to home.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19153956
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1294494

My guess is that most products sold by Ace, are actually shipped by
the manufacturer. Some manufacturers may not ship to home. In that
case, buy someplace else.

+1

AFAICT, Ace doesn't *make* anything -- even the "Ace-branded" items
that they sell. So, most probably arrange for the firm that *does*
manufacture the items to do the drop shipments... either to their
*stores* or end users. This one probably doesn't want to deal
with onesie-twosie shipments (to homes), just bulk shipments (to
stores).

Yes, I think you guys explained it.

Last week I bought an outlet strip, with 11 receptacles including room
for wall-warts. And the one I wanted was on the Home Depot site, and
it had Ship-to-Store, for free. So I did. I thought it would come from
an HD warehous, or from some other warehouse with a bulk shipment to an
HD shipping location. But instead it came from some warehouse direct
to my local HD via UPS. Individually wrapped.

Apparently this is not true about Amazon, but wrt HD, Walmart, etc, now
that everybody sells everything, I have a feeling they all share one big
warehouse and use the computer to keep track of who sold what. I don't
know how that would work with shoplifting in the warehouse, however.
Who would take the loss for that?

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 05 Oct 2015 07:53:47 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 10/05/2015 01:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


Those are deadly weapons and the store needs to check you out to make
sure you're not a terrorist. You can avoid the issue with:

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19617406

A pink box cutter couldn't possibly be used for evil ends.

Good point.

BTW, speaking of pink, why were the Indiana University football players
wearing pink booties in their last game.

Or if you really want screwdrivers;

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=49856046

I think CRNG nailed it; so manufacturers don't do drop shipments.

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 1:21:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:11:51 -0700, Don Y
wrote:

On 10/5/2015 4:04 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:14:32 -0400, look wrote in


On 10/05/2015 03:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

It looks like other screwdrives that Ace sells are available for ship
to home.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19153956
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1294494

My guess is that most products sold by Ace, are actually shipped by
the manufacturer. Some manufacturers may not ship to home. In that
case, buy someplace else.

+1

AFAICT, Ace doesn't *make* anything -- even the "Ace-branded" items
that they sell. So, most probably arrange for the firm that *does*
manufacture the items to do the drop shipments... either to their
*stores* or end users. This one probably doesn't want to deal
with onesie-twosie shipments (to homes), just bulk shipments (to
stores).

Yes, I think you guys explained it.

Last week I bought an outlet strip, with 11 receptacles including room
for wall-warts. And the one I wanted was on the Home Depot site, and
it had Ship-to-Store, for free. So I did. I thought it would come from
an HD warehous, or from some other warehouse with a bulk shipment to an
HD shipping location. But instead it came from some warehouse direct
to my local HD via UPS. Individually wrapped.

Apparently this is not true about Amazon, but wrt HD, Walmart, etc, now
that everybody sells everything, I have a feeling they all share one big
warehouse and use the computer to keep track of who sold what. I don't
know how that would work with shoplifting in the warehouse, however.
Who would take the loss for that?

Surprise! Amazon has a number of warehouses "fulfillment centers" across the country. ^_^

http://www.amazonfulfillmentcareers....ent/locations/

[8~{} Uncle Warehouse Monster

On 10/05/2015 03:55 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

It looks like other screwdrives that Ace sells are available for ship
to home.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19153956
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1294494

My guess is that most products sold by Ace, are actually shipped by
the manufacturer. Some manufacturers may not ship to home. In that
case, buy someplace else.

+1

AFAICT, Ace doesn't *make* anything -- even the "Ace-branded" items
that they sell. So, most probably arrange for the firm that *does*
manufacture the items to do the drop shipments... either to their
*stores* or end users. This one probably doesn't want to deal
with onesie-twosie shipments (to homes), just bulk shipments (to
stores).

Yes, I think you guys explained it.

Last week I bought an outlet strip, with 11 receptacles including room
for wall-warts. And the one I wanted was on the Home Depot site, and
it had Ship-to-Store, for free. So I did. I thought it would come from
an HD warehous, or from some other warehouse with a bulk shipment to an
HD shipping location. But instead it came from some warehouse direct
to my local HD via UPS. Individually wrapped.

Apparently this is not true about Amazon, but wrt HD, Walmart, etc, now
that everybody sells everything, I have a feeling they all share one big
warehouse and use the computer to keep track of who sold what. I don't
know how that would work with shoplifting in the warehouse, however.
Who would take the loss for that?

Surprise! Amazon has a number of warehouses "fulfillment centers" across the country. ^_^

http://www.amazonfulfillmentcareers....ent/locations/

Here's one of many YouTube videos showing how the system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

Perce

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:55:20 -0700 (PDT), Uncle
Monster wrote:

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 1:21:36 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 05 Oct 2015 08:11:51 -0700, Don Y
wrote:

On 10/5/2015 4:04 AM, CRNG wrote:
On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 05:14:32 -0400, look wrote in


On 10/05/2015 03:59 AM, micky wrote:

Why do you suppose Ace won't ship these screwdrivers to a home, like
they do with lots of other stuff,

See the text under Free Pickup at your local Ace Check Availability

Also the Shipping tab a little below that.

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=53090136

http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1286543


WTF?
Does Ace need to do a background check before they sell those?
Does a tradesman need a carry permit?

It looks like other screwdrives that Ace sells are available for ship
to home.
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...uctId=19153956
http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...ductId=1294494

My guess is that most products sold by Ace, are actually shipped by
the manufacturer. Some manufacturers may not ship to home. In that
case, buy someplace else.

+1

AFAICT, Ace doesn't *make* anything -- even the "Ace-branded" items
that they sell. So, most probably arrange for the firm that *does*
manufacture the items to do the drop shipments... either to their
*stores* or end users. This one probably doesn't want to deal
with onesie-twosie shipments (to homes), just bulk shipments (to
stores).

Yes, I think you guys explained it.

Last week I bought an outlet strip, with 11 receptacles including room
for wall-warts. And the one I wanted was on the Home Depot site, and
it had Ship-to-Store, for free. So I did. I thought it would come from
an HD warehous, or from some other warehouse with a bulk shipment to an
HD shipping location. But instead it came from some warehouse direct
to my local HD via UPS. Individually wrapped.

Apparently this is not true about Amazon, but wrt HD, Walmart, etc, now
that everybody sells everything, I have a feeling they all share one big
warehouse and use the computer to keep track of who sold what. I don't
know how that would work with shoplifting in the warehouse, however.
Who would take the loss for that?

Surprise! Amazon has a number of warehouses "fulfillment centers" across the country. ^_^

I knew that. That's why now everyone has to pay sales tax at the time
of purchase on Amazon.

I meant that based on video on the news of how things work at their
warehouses, they're not sharing space with Walmart or Home Depot, who I
speculate might be sharing space with each other, or using the same
warehouse.

http://www.amazonfulfillmentcareers....ent/locations/

I guess maybe I shoudln't have said everyone.

[8~{} Uncle Warehouse Monster

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:30:28 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Here's one of many YouTube videos showing how the system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?

Oren posted for all of us...



On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:30:28 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Here's one of many YouTube videos showing how the system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?

Oslama says $20 gotta beat Starbux

--
Tekkie

FWIW, here in Florida, you have to be over 21 to buy a screwdriver.

On 10/05/2015 03:45 PM, micky wrote:
I knew that. That's why now everyone has to pay sales tax at the time
of purchase on Amazon.

Sales tax? Unless they're hiding it I'm not paying it. If you want to
commit political suicide in this state just whisper 'sales tax'.

On 10/05/2015 07:22 PM, nobody wrote:
FWIW, here in Florida, you have to be over 21 to buy a screwdriver.

I certainly hope you're talking about something involving vodka and
orange juice.

On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:55:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:30:28 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Here's one of many YouTube videos showing how the system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?
You only have to pay a robot when it is working - - - - - -.

On 10/5/2015 6:28 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/05/2015 03:45 PM, micky wrote:
I knew that. That's why now everyone has to pay sales tax at the time
of purchase on Amazon.

Sales tax? Unless they're hiding it I'm not paying it. If you want to commit
political suicide in this state just whisper 'sales tax'.

I think the law only requires businesses "having a presence" in a state
to collect sales taxes from sales *in* that state. Some firms may *opt*
to collect the appropriate sales tax -- and remit it to the corresponding
state(s) -- but, AFAICT, they are not *required* to do so. ISTM that
MS collected sales taxes for all purchases even though they may not
have had a "presence" in the state.

Also, these are typically only *state* sales taxes. Here, for example,
we have county and city sales taxes. AFAICT, there are no requirements
that these be collected by these firms.

So, an online purchase can still be a net tax savings even if state
taxes are tacked onto your order.

Of course, IANAL (thank god!) so YMMV

In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 05 Oct 2015 19:28:47 -0600, rbowman
wrote:

On 10/05/2015 03:45 PM, micky wrote:
I knew that. That's why now everyone has to pay sales tax at the time
of purchase on Amazon.

Sales tax? Unless they're hiding it I'm not paying it. If you want to
commit political suicide in this state just whisper 'sales tax'.

Well, if the state doesn't have sales tax, Amazon doesn't collect it.

Or maybe it does, but it's hard to tell.

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 4:45:55 PM UTC-5, micky wrote:
In alt.home.repair, on Mon, 5 Oct 2015 12:55:20 -0700 (PDT), Uncle
Monster wrote:

+1

AFAICT, Ace doesn't *make* anything -- even the "Ace-branded" items
that they sell. So, most probably arrange for the firm that *does*
manufacture the items to do the drop shipments... either to their
*stores* or end users. This one probably doesn't want to deal
with onesie-twosie shipments (to homes), just bulk shipments (to
stores).

Yes, I think you guys explained it.

Last week I bought an outlet strip, with 11 receptacles including room
for wall-warts. And the one I wanted was on the Home Depot site, and
it had Ship-to-Store, for free. So I did. I thought it would come from
an HD warehous, or from some other warehouse with a bulk shipment to an
HD shipping location. But instead it came from some warehouse direct
to my local HD via UPS. Individually wrapped.

Apparently this is not true about Amazon, but wrt HD, Walmart, etc, now
that everybody sells everything, I have a feeling they all share one big
warehouse and use the computer to keep track of who sold what. I don't
know how that would work with shoplifting in the warehouse, however.
Who would take the loss for that?

Surprise! Amazon has a number of warehouses "fulfillment centers" across the country. ^_^

I knew that. That's why now everyone has to pay sales tax at the time
of purchase on Amazon.

I meant that based on video on the news of how things work at their
warehouses, they're not sharing space with Walmart or Home Depot, who I
speculate might be sharing space with each other, or using the same
warehouse.

http://www.amazonfulfillmentcareers....ent/locations/

I guess maybe I shoudln't have said everyone.


I reside in Alabamastan and the closest Amazon fulfillment center is in Georgia. I've never been charged sales tax on any Amazon purchase. I suppose it depends on your state having a law that requires sales tax on online purchases from across state lines. There is no such law here in Alabamastan because we eliminated over a century of Democrat control of the state legislature. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:11:53 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:55:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:30:28 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Here's one of many YouTube videos showing how the system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?
You only have to pay a robot when it is working - - - - - -.

There is no national robot union or lobby group,..... yet. Robot rights groups haven't become mainstream at this time. PETR, pronounced "peter" People for the Ethical Treatment of Robots is a group of wackos who want to give robots the same rights as humans. They contend that many people vote like robots so why shouldn't robots have the right to vote? It really depends who's programming the people and the robots. o_O

[8~{} Uncle Bot Monster

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:21:58 PM UTC-5, Don Y wrote:
On 10/5/2015 6:28 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 10/05/2015 03:45 PM, micky wrote:
I knew that. That's why now everyone has to pay sales tax at the time
of purchase on Amazon.

Sales tax? Unless they're hiding it I'm not paying it. If you want to commit
political suicide in this state just whisper 'sales tax'.

I think the law only requires businesses "having a presence" in a state
to collect sales taxes from sales *in* that state. Some firms may *opt*
to collect the appropriate sales tax -- and remit it to the corresponding
state(s) -- but, AFAICT, they are not *required* to do so. ISTM that
MS collected sales taxes for all purchases even though they may not
have had a "presence" in the state.

Also, these are typically only *state* sales taxes. Here, for example,
we have county and city sales taxes. AFAICT, there are no requirements
that these be collected by these firms.

So, an online purchase can still be a net tax savings even if state
taxes are tacked onto your order.

Of course, IANAL (thank god!) so YMMV

If I had an online business, I would protest any tax levied on my products by a state in which me or my business wasn't located. The reason being that the state isn't providing any services to me and my business. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster

On 10/6/2015 3:26 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:


I reside in Alabamastan and the closest Amazon fulfillment center is in Georgia. I've never been charged sales tax on any Amazon purchase. I suppose it depends on your state having a law that requires sales tax on online purchases from across state lines. There is no such law here in Alabamastan because we eliminated over a century of Democrat control of the state legislature. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster


If they have no physical presence, they will not collect the tax. If,
however, your state has a sales tax, they also have a "use tax" for out
of state purchases. You can contact them to get the forms to pay the
tax. You'll also feel good knowing you contributed your fair share to
the government coffers.

On 10/6/2015 3:57 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:


If I had an online business, I would protest any tax levied on my products by a state in which me or my business wasn't located. The reason being that the state isn't providing any services to me and my business. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster


You have no say. They are not taxing you. What are you protesting that
costs you zero? The obligation is between the state and your customer.

Amazon and others have refused to collect the tax for a long time but
have finally relented in some cases. They wanted to build a warehouse
in CT so they agreed to collect the tax but probably got a lot of
benefits in return as they build the new locations.

On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 10:43:13 AM UTC-5, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/6/2015 3:26 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:


I reside in Alabamastan and the closest Amazon fulfillment center is in Georgia. I've never been charged sales tax on any Amazon purchase. I suppose it depends on your state having a law that requires sales tax on online purchases from across state lines. There is no such law here in Alabamastan because we eliminated over a century of Democrat control of the state legislature. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster


If they have no physical presence, they will not collect the tax. If,
however, your state has a sales tax, they also have a "use tax" for out
of state purchases. You can contact them to get the forms to pay the
tax. You'll also feel good knowing you contributed your fair share to
the government coffers.

Yea, I can't wait for the revenue department SWAT team to show up if I don't pay sales tax for online purchases. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle SWAT Monster

On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:53:25 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 10/6/2015 3:26 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:


I reside in Alabamastan and the closest Amazon fulfillment center is in Georgia. I've never been charged sales tax on any Amazon purchase. I suppose it depends on your state having a law that requires sales tax on online purchases from across state lines. There is no such law here in Alabamastan because we eliminated over a century of Democrat control of the state legislature. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster


If they have no physical presence, they will not collect the tax. If,
however, your state has a sales tax, they also have a "use tax" for out
of state purchases. You can contact them to get the forms to pay the
tax. You'll also feel good knowing you contributed your fair share to
the government coffers.

I'll jump right on that...oh wait.

On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:58:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

Amazon and others have refused to collect the tax for a long time but
have finally relented in some cases. They wanted to build a warehouse
in CT so they agreed to collect the tax but probably got a lot of
benefits in return as they build the new locations.

They now have a warehouse in Las Vegas. Collect the sales tax and get
good tax benefits from low state corporate taxes.

On 10/6/2015 8:53 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
If they have no physical presence, they will not collect the tax. If, however,
your state has a sales tax, they also have a "use tax" for out of state
purchases. You can contact them to get the forms to pay the tax. You'll also
feel good knowing you contributed your fair share to the government coffers.

I religiously pay my "use tax" (for my business). No desire for it
to turn up in an audit and have to deal with the potential mess
that could ensue.

OTOH, those OTHER wonderful taxpayers are subsidizing my purchases
to the tune of 50% so it's the LEAST I can do! :

On 10/6/2015 2:08 PM, Don Y wrote:


I religiously pay my "use tax" (for my business). No desire for it
to turn up in an audit and have to deal with the potential mess
that could ensue.

OTOH, those OTHER wonderful taxpayers are subsidizing my purchases
to the tune of 50% so it's the LEAST I can do! :

They will send a guy that looks like Mr Magoo to audit you. They hit us
once and we had to pay up. We got nailed for $2.30 for some books
bought on line.

On 10/6/2015 11:56 AM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 10/6/2015 2:08 PM, Don Y wrote:

I religiously pay my "use tax" (for my business). No desire for it
to turn up in an audit and have to deal with the potential mess
that could ensue.

OTOH, those OTHER wonderful taxpayers are subsidizing my purchases
to the tune of 50% so it's the LEAST I can do! :

They will send a guy that looks like Mr Magoo to audit you. They hit us once
and we had to pay up. We got nailed for $2.30 for some books bought on line.

I make very *large* purchases. The taxes on a $20K purchase make it
worthwhile to come snooping.

If I'm *declaring* the purchases (in order to write them off), then
it's relatively easy to see if I'm also paying the taxes on them.

Or not.

Besides, it's The Law. I also stop at stop signs in the wee hours of
the morning even when there are no other vehicles in sight... :-/
It's not worth lobbying for a change in the law: "STOP but only if
there are folks that MIGHT be impacted by your failure to stop..."

"Handicapped parking, no parking -- unless you can see lots of
other UNUSED handicapped spots available and think it unlikely that
they will fill up while you are in the store doing your business"

It's just way too easy (slippery slope) to "rationalize" all sorts
of behaviors that you *think* should be acceptable. Then, how
do you accommodate others who have a DIFFERENT notion of what should
be acceptable??

On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 14:56:15 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

They will send a guy that looks like Mr Magoo to audit you. They hit us
once and we had to pay up. We got nailed for $2.30 for some books
bought on line.

Dang. A big magnifying glass for such a small nether region.

On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 09:48:47 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster

Yea, I can't wait for the revenue department SWAT team to show up if I don't pay sales tax for online purchases. ^_^

Hide the dog, those guys will shoot the pets.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 06 Oct 2015 12:17:52 -0700, Don Y
wrote:


"Handicapped parking, no parking -- unless you can see lots of
other UNUSED handicapped spots available and think it unlikely that
they will fill up while you are in the store doing your business"

I went to Home Depot, or whatever used to be at that location, 10
minutes before it closed. Only one other car in the lot and 8
handicapped spots empty, but I was in a hurry and I parked in one and I
got a ticket.

OTOH, my last year or two in Brooklyn, when it was really late and no
one around, I stopped waiting for the last traffic light on my way home
to turn green, and never got in trouble. It was only a block from
another light where I had turned the corner, and that just about
guarantees the next light will be red. Even though it's a city of 3
million, Brooklyn can be very quiet late at night, even the Xway.

On 10/6/2015 3:17 PM, Don Y wrote:
\
They will send a guy that looks like Mr Magoo to audit you. They hit
us once
and we had to pay up. We got nailed for $2.30 for some books bought
on line.

I make very *large* purchases. The taxes on a $20K purchase make it
worthwhile to come snooping.

If I'm *declaring* the purchases (in order to write them off), then
it's relatively easy to see if I'm also paying the taxes on them.

Or not.

The $2.30 was on a total of about $2million in purchases. Does not pay
to cheat.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 6 Oct 2015 11:58:46 -0400, Ed Pawlowski
wrote:

On 10/6/2015 3:57 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:


If I had an online business, I would protest any tax levied on my products by a state in which me or my business wasn't located. The reason being that the state isn't providing any services to me and my business. O_o

[8~{} Uncle Tax Monster


You have no say. They are not taxing you. What are you protesting that
costs you zero? The obligation is between the state and your customer.

Amazon and others have refused to collect the tax for a long time but
have finally relented in some cases. They wanted to build a warehouse
in CT so they agreed to collect the tax but probably got a lot of
benefits in return as they build the new locations.

There was something in the paper about what date the warehouse in Md.
opened up and sales tax had to be paid online. At least a year ago.
The news article said they planned warehouses, either in every state or
iln every location such that they could deliver the next day to
(almost?) everyone.

I'm not in that much of a hurry. In fact, when I watch the tracking
it's like watching a horse race, and the longer it takes, the more fun
it is. A horse race where I always get a prize.

In alt.home.repair, on Tue, 6 Oct 2015 00:49:51 -0700 (PDT), Uncle
Monster wrote:

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:11:53 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 05 Oct 2015 15:55:42 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Mon, 5 Oct 2015 16:30:28 -0400, "Percival P. Cassidy"
wrote:

Here's one of many YouTube videos showing how the system works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quWFjS3Ci7A

Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?
You only have to pay a robot when it is working - - - - - -.

There is no national robot union or lobby group,..... yet. Robot rights groups haven't become mainstream at this time. PETR, pronounced "peter" People for the Ethical Treatment of Robots is a group of wackos who want to give robots the same rights as humans. They contend that many people vote like robots so why shouldn't robots have the right to vote? It really depends who's programming the people and the robots. o_O

"Robots are people too". Mitt Romney

[8~{} Uncle Bot Monster

On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 2:52:49 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 09:48:47 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster

Yea, I can't wait for the revenue department SWAT team to show up if I don't pay sales tax for online purchases. ^_^

Hide the dog, those guys will shoot the pets.

One 9mm round would turn Dogma, my 6 lb toe biter into a pink cloud. Those wacky SWAT teams have been known to execute tiny dogs when they go to the wrong address because their ?intelligence? indicated there was a vicious attack dog on the premises. I watched one of those reality cop shows where a SWAT team had a very hard time breaking into a fellows house. I could swear the guy was charged with the crime of "Making it difficult for police to break in". o_O

[8~{} Uncle Dog Monster

On 10/7/2015 4:08 AM, micky wrote:
Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?
You only have to pay a robot when it is working - - - - - -.

There is no national robot union or lobby group,..... yet. Robot rights groups haven't become mainstream at this time. PETR, pronounced "peter" People for the Ethical Treatment of Robots is a group of wackos who want to give robots the same rights as humans. They contend that many people vote like robots so why shouldn't robots have the right to vote? It really depends who's programming the people and the robots. o_O

"Robots are people too". Mitt Romney


Robot lives matter.

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On Wed, 7 Oct 2015 08:32:52 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 10/7/2015 4:08 AM, micky wrote:
Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?
You only have to pay a robot when it is working - - - - - -.

There is no national robot union or lobby group,..... yet. Robot rights groups haven't become mainstream at this time. PETR, pronounced "peter" People for the Ethical Treatment of Robots is a group of wackos who want to give robots the same rights as humans. They contend that many people vote like robots so why shouldn't robots have the right to vote? It really depends who's programming the people and the robots. o_O

"Robots are people too". Mitt Romney


Robot lives matter.


Black robot lives matter more.

On 10/7/2015 7:32 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 10/7/2015 4:08 AM, micky wrote:
Robots should be paid a $15 an hour minimum wage, right?
You only have to pay a robot when it is working - - - - - -.

There is no national robot union or lobby group,..... yet. Robot
rights groups haven't become mainstream at this time. PETR,
pronounced "peter" People for the Ethical Treatment of Robots is a
group of wackos who want to give robots the same rights as humans.
They contend that many people vote like robots so why shouldn't
robots have the right to vote? It really depends who's programming
the people and the robots. o_O

"Robots are people too". Mitt Romney


Robot lives matter.


In another life I was shoobydowapbot.

--
Maggie