On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:33:14 -0500, SeaNymph
wrote:

And no, I'm not gay, but I do have gay friends. Why would that, in any
way, be relelvent?

Just curiosity mostly. If you would bake a cake or not.

I have gay neighbors across the street from my house. Twice a year we
have a community yard sale. One gay comes out and _always_ has long
conversations with all the girls at my house. Never speaks to me or
even acknowledges an engagement in conversation from me.

Is he a queer bigot?

On 7/27/2015 2:44 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 11:46:41 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 6:40 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/26/2015 7:39 PM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Sunday, July 26, 2015 at 6:11:45 PM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:

More like a restoration. Perhaps I can get high performance
upgrades? ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Hot Rod Monster


oh no ... the women would really have to learn how to run fast if you
got those kind of upgrades! haha

--
Maggie

I can't even catch one of my tiny girlfriends but they come to me and
climb in my lap anyway. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Stationary Monster


You have to take a break from clubbing baby
seals, to lap sit your tiny girl friends?

I hate people like you; Aston says I do.
I'm a bigot and a spigot.


Spigots are much nicer than bigots I think.

--
Maggie

Yea, you can turn them off unless the handle is missing. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Missing Monster


You're right. You're Uncle Smart Monster, now.

--
Maggie

On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/27/2015 12:47 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 6:46 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

Some years ago, I was friends with a woman who babysat
a couple boys. One morning, Heath, 4, was using a folding
womans comb as a pretend pistol. He was commanding the
adults who were present.

Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?

--
Maggie

On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:37:47 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

And no, I'm not gay, but I do have gay friends. Why would that, in any
way, be relelvent?

I like my happy friends better. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Happy Monster

Having male dangling participles, looking back over the years I think
I would have been a really good lesbian.

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 5:27:14 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:37:47 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

And no, I'm not gay, but I do have gay friends. Why would that, in any
way, be relelvent?

I like my happy friends better. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Happy Monster

Having male dangling participles, looking back over the years I think
I would have been a really good lesbian.

Darn, I thought you were a cowboy. O_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vm2jPM4ee8

[8~{} Uncle Beef Monster

On 7/27/2015 5:18 PM, Oren wrote:
I have gay neighbors across the street from my house. Twice a year we
have a community yard sale. One gay comes out and _always_ has long
conversations with all the girls at my house. Never speaks to me or
even acknowledges an engagement in conversation from me.

Is he a queer bigot?


I think there is a general sense that queers
can not be bigots, and blacks cannot be racist.

Under any circumstances.


--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/27/2015 5:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/27/2015 6:27 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 12:37:47 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

And no, I'm not gay, but I do have gay friends. Why would that, in any
way, be relelvent?

I like my happy friends better. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Happy Monster

Having male dangling participles, looking back over the years I think
I would have been a really good lesbian.


On alt hvac list, Turtle (think it was) said
years ago, he's a male lesbian.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/27/2015 8:56 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.


ahh well, sounds like a peaceful lifestyle to me.

--
Maggie

On 07/27/2015 04:18 PM, Oren wrote:
On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:33:14 -0500, SeaNymph
wrote:

And no, I'm not gay, but I do have gay friends. Why would that, in any
way, be relelvent?

Just curiosity mostly. If you would bake a cake or not.

I have gay neighbors across the street from my house. Twice a year we
have a community yard sale. One gay comes out and _always_ has long
conversations with all the girls at my house. Never speaks to me or
even acknowledges an engagement in conversation from me.

Is he a queer bigot?


A closet heterosexual?

On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 8:56:11 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.
--
.

I've watched it online like most TV shows I watch. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle TV Monster

On 7/28/2015 12:03 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 8:56 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.


ahh well, sounds like a peaceful lifestyle to me.


I'd prefer to be more of a Ward Cleaver life, but
so far I've not got married, kids, house, or picket
fence.

--
..
Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
..

On 7/28/2015 5:30 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 8:56:11 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.
--
.

I've watched it online like most TV shows I watch. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle TV Monster


This was the most recent episode that I watched:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4870534/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n
"Actress Ginnifer Goodwin delves into a family secret in hopes of
connecting her father with the grandparents he never knew. She is
shocked to find dark and turbulent lives filled with drug addiction and
life-altering consequences."

--
Maggie

On 7/28/2015 6:22 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/28/2015 12:03 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 8:56 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.


ahh well, sounds like a peaceful lifestyle to me.


I'd prefer to be more of a Ward Cleaver life, but
so far I've not got married, kids, house, or picket
fence.


I don't think a Ward Cleaver life really exists anywhere. I am thinking
about adding the picket fence in the front yard, though, so I can add
more flower beds and have even less grass to mow.

--
Maggie

On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 8:56:59 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 7/28/2015 5:30 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 8:56:11 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.
--
.

I've watched it online like most TV shows I watch. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle TV Monster


This was the most recent episode that I watched:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4870534/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n
"Actress Ginnifer Goodwin delves into a family secret in hopes of
connecting her father with the grandparents he never knew. She is
shocked to find dark and turbulent lives filled with drug addiction and
life-altering consequences."

--
Maggie

Emmitt Smith a former NFL player who's quite Black was a guest on the show and was surprised that he had a Mulatto great grandmother who lived in Alabamastan and that he had living relatives from that branch of his family tree who now reside in Alabamastan. Many Negro Americans believe that they're part Native American are surprised to discover that those ancestors are actually Caucasian Europeans. Hell, I tell everyone that I must be part Negro because Italians and Hillbillies will mate with anything. I recall having an aaaaaaaaunt. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goat Monster

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:42:41 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 10:09 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:34:46 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 5:17 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:34:47 -0500, Muggles wrote:

One argument in favor of being gay is people are born gay. I've always
countered that argument with a logical response. Do you think people are
born gay?

1) I'm inclined to think they are...
but
2) even if it is/was a choice, what possible concern is it of anyone
else that someone choose to be gay rather than straight?

Well, many people have used the argument that people are "born" gay in
order to force a mindset on others who disagree with the lifestyle.


I would quibble with your wording. Yes, people say that one is "born
gay" because that does push the discuss in a different direction. But
it's not an unreasonable starting point since the evidence is
overwhelming that a person IS born either gay or straight.

How can you tell if a baby is gay or straight?


However, I
don't think they do it specifically because others "disagree"with the
lifestyle, I think they do it because other ACDTIVELY try to prevent
gays from partaking of the SAME lifestyle that straights are allowed
to have, i.e. a married lifestyle and even before that point, many who
"disagree" want gays to be forced to hide in a closet. You know, the
people who think letting children know such a thing as a gay person
exists will somehow damage the child... those kind of people are not
content to just "disagree" but want to actively force gays underground
as well as prevent them from having a lifestyle comparable to
straights, i.e. the committed and possibly married lifestyle.

Frankly, I'd rather people keep their sexual preferences private. Why
do gays want everyone to know where they want to put their private
parts, anyway?

That aside gays could already marry anyone of age of the opposite gender
just like straight people could marry anyone of age of the opposite
gender. They already could have an equal lifestyle, BUT they don't want
an equal lifestyle. They want special rights to redefine marriage. So,
now that marriage is redefined, who is going to tell the next
combination who want to marry that they can't? How will our American
society define marriage in the future?

You've never addressed the legal precedence that now exists that
probably will be the precursor to such marriage combinations. I'd like
to see what you think will happen when the worst of the worst decides
they want the same privilege to marry.

You and the others are using all the very same arguments that were
used when people wanted to keep blacks from having the same rights as
whites. People who used those arguments were bigots and racists then
just as people using those arguments today are bigots. As you may
recall, back then many of the arguments, not all, were grounded in
peoples religious beliefs that blacks were inferior because it SAID SO
IN THE BIBLE. Now you want to use your religious beliefs to
discriminate against another minority, this time gays instead of
blacks. Shame on you.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 10:11:33 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/26/2015 8:05 AM, R. P. McMurphy wrote:
On 07/25/2015 10:42 PM, Muggles wrote:
That aside gays could already marry anyone of age of the opposite gender
just like straight people could marry anyone of age of the opposite
gender. They already could have an equal lifestyle, BUT they don't want
an equal lifestyle. They want special rights to redefine marriage. So,
now that marriage is redefined, who is going to tell the next
combination who want to marry that they can't? How will our American
society define marriage in the future?

But gay people should have the right to get married and be miserable
just like straight people, no?

People should have the right to marry. Miserable is a choice.

Now, who will decide what combinations of people can marry?
\
Gosh, how about we let the two people INVOLED in the pairing to decide
what combination of people it should be for THOSE two people? Freedom
from discrimination, what a concept!

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:41:08 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 11:11 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:59:13 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 6:56 PM, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 15:17:41 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

The only people trying to force others to make choices they
don't want to make are the religious adherents.

WRONG. Try again.


Have gays done any thing like trying to force others
to make choices they don't want to make? Like baking
faggot sodomite perverted sinful celebration cake?

That's not personal choices, those are business choices. It's no
different then trying to claim people being forced to install fire
sprinklers that meet code are being "forced to make choices they don't
want to make". Of course people are "forced to make choices they
don't want to make" every day. That's really not pertinent to his
discussion for the context.


Hey, you should use that logic in some place like
Iran. Go tell them that selling ham and cheese
sandwiches is a business decision mandate, and they
should not be offended.

As to the Christian bakers and the sodomite celebration
cake, the bakers sure took it personally.


Goalpost movement noted.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:43:50 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 11:13 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:57:38 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 6:28 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
You imply you support bigotry so it's hardly name calling to say you
are a bigot.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
Full Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the
members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed
\-g?-t?d\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
See bigot defined for English-language learners
See bigot defined for kids
=========================================

I'm challenging you to demonstrate any hatred
in my writing. As to intolerance, same goes.
Teaching people not to sin is one of the most
loving things a man can do.

I'm not going back thru all the messages to see so if you feel I've
unjustly accused you I will withdraw my statement calling you a bigot.


Thank you. I accept.

Goal post move text deleted before reply.

IOW you won't answer simple questions because it would show your true
colors. Thanks for telling us all we need to know about your bigotry.


Or, it could be said that I'm very politely
staying on topic,

No, you are avoiding the topic. You are afraid to answer simple
questions. It exposes your true beliefs.

On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:57:01 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/19/2015 11:10 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:20:12 -0400, Stormin Mormon
would never act like those bigoted bakers. Sure, Jesus might tell the
gay person that he thought what they were doing was a sin but he
would never discriminate against them. If you don't understand that
then you don't understand Jesus.


How about some physical action, then?

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/matt/21?lang=eng

12 ¶And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that
sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the
moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

What did the bible say about shaving, cutting your hair and eating
shellfish?


Noting your goal post move.

Noting your failure to defend you position for fear of being shown as
the hypocrite you apparently are.

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:56:49 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 6:45 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:50:05 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Jesus might be speaking thru me. Prove he isn't.


Now I know you're a troll, trying to
prove a negative.

I've provided the teachings of the living
prophets, don't need to prove any more
than that.
https://www.lds.org/topics/same-gend...ction?lang=eng


Again, I'm not going to try to prove a negative.

No one is asking you to. You are being asked if you follow ALL the
laws regarding hair and beards such as these ones below or do you just
do what is convenient and suits you personally without regard to god's
laws?


Goal post move noted. Again. How many more times are
you going to try that nonsense?

No goals were moved. Just exposing your hypocrisy.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:19:07 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/26/2015 9:58 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 9:56:35 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/25/2015 6:45 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:50:05 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Jesus might be speaking thru me. Prove he isn't.


Now I know you're a troll, trying to
prove a negative.

I've provided the teachings of the living
prophets, don't need to prove any more
than that.
https://www.lds.org/topics/same-gend...ction?lang=eng


Again, I'm not going to try to prove a negative.

No one is asking you to. You are being asked if you follow ALL the
laws regarding hair and beards such as these ones below or do you just
do what is convenient and suits you personally without regard to god's
laws?


Goal post move noted. Again. How many more times are
you going to try that nonsense?

--

To be fair, it's not moving the goal posts. It's a very fair and
legitimate question as to why some people want to strictly interpret
the little bit the bible has to say about homosexuality,
while totally ignoring what it says about all those other things.
And when you choose to enforce all the bizarre rules, or most of the rules
from 2000 years ago, some very, very bad things happen as you can
see from radical muslims.


"Jesus speaks through me. Prove he doesn't."
"Do you pick and choose which of God's laws to follow?"

You mean those are the same? Looks like different
questions (goal post move) to me.

And you again feign stupidity as if you didn't understand Traders
point. Instead of addressing it you once again go off on a pointless
tangent to avoid talking about the obvious conflict between your
desire to enforce one tiny bit of bible "law" while turning a blind
eye to all the other bible "laws" that might inconvenience you too
much. Pure hypocrisy.

On 7/28/2015 11:15 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 8:56:59 AM UTC-5, Muggles wrote:
On 7/28/2015 5:30 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Monday, July 27, 2015 at 8:56:11 PM UTC-5, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/27/2015 5:33 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/27/2015 3:48 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
Frank (rather large fellow who was a substitute teacher)
was willing to play. He raised his arms in surrender.
Heath promptly shot him.

"Hey, I surrendered!" said Frank.

"Life's not fair." said Heath.


HAHA! Old soul in a very young body.

That was part of the family's oral history
for a LONG time.


Reminds me of this show I watched last night about famous people
searching out their family history. I think it's called "Who Do You
Think You Are?" Have you seen it?


No, have not. Might catch it some day. I have no
broadcast or cable TV here. And don't miss it.
--
.

I've watched it online like most TV shows I watch. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle TV Monster


This was the most recent episode that I watched:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4870534/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n
"Actress Ginnifer Goodwin delves into a family secret in hopes of
connecting her father with the grandparents he never knew. She is
shocked to find dark and turbulent lives filled with drug addiction and
life-altering consequences."

--
Maggie

Emmitt Smith a former NFL player who's quite Black was a guest on the show and was surprised that he had a Mulatto great grandmother who lived in Alabamastan and that he had living relatives from that branch of his family tree who now reside in Alabamastan. Many Negro Americans believe that they're part Native American are surprised to discover that those ancestors are actually Caucasian Europeans. Hell, I tell everyone that I must be part Negro because Italians and Hillbillies will mate with anything. I recall having an aaaaaaaaunt. ^_^

[8~{} Uncle Goat Monster


I'm English, Irish, Scottish, French, and German, and who knows what all
else. It explains why I love potato salad, tho.

--
Maggie

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 11:39:02 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:

Freedom from discrimination, what a concept!

Does allowing two gay/lesbian prisoners pose a threat to the orderly
running of an institution or a threat to employees?

Should prisons allow marijuana because they may think it is a
religious sacrament?

On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:45:27 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 10:14 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:53:46 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 5:48 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:07:00 -0500, Muggles wrote:


Prejudice is only bad if it supports evil. Otherwise, prejudice that
supports good is good prejudice.


And being prejudiced against someone simply because they are gay is
evil. Glad you are finally seeing the light.


Politically correct statements really kill individuality and freedom of
thought. Why would you want to do that?

It's not my fault you are the way you are.


True, but the same goes for gays, don't you think?

The gays aren't trying to tell you who you may or may not marry.

Oren posted for all of us...


You do know we have advanced. At one time women were considered
property, had no right to own, or inherit property or even allowed to
vote. That changed. Riddle me this. Can people just leave me alone?
Get out of my life and stop trying to mandate my life? I don't care
what people do for the most part. Crime is the exception.

Just leave me the phuc alone, let me decide for myself and let me deal
with the consequences of my given right to my decisions.


I could not say it better! I will stop before a major rant...

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 16:37:05 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

Having male dangling participles, looking back over the years I think
I would have been a really good lesbian.

Darn, I thought you were a cowboy. O_o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vm2jPM4ee8

Now what I mean, Vern?

Oren posted for all of us...



On Mon, 27 Jul 2015 07:33:14 -0500, SeaNymph
wrote:

And no, I'm not gay, but I do have gay friends. Why would that, in any
way, be relelvent?

Just curiosity mostly. If you would bake a cake or not.

I have gay neighbors across the street from my house. Twice a year we
have a community yard sale. One gay comes out and _always_ has long
conversations with all the girls at my house. Never speaks to me or
even acknowledges an engagement in conversation from me.

Is he a queer bigot?

No, maybe he is overpowered by the testosterone or shy. IDK maybe you're
ugly too Doesn't like prison guards? Go over and make a security check.
Better to have neighbors that ignore each other than messing and escalating
a feud.

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

Oren posted for all of us...



On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 14:26:50 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

It turns out I have bleeding ulcers in my stomach discovered by the camera but I've had no pain or upset stomach.

Last year I went to the gastro doc for black tar stools I'd had for a
week. Stopped just days before my visit. I just thought it was food I
had ate. Turns out is was an ulcer. They did photo it, gave me a copy.
Don't mess around and let them probe your pipes.

Did you get the second opinion?

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

Ashton Crusher posted for all of us...



On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:42:41 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 10:09 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 17:34:46 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 5:17 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 23:34:47 -0500, Muggles wrote:

One argument in favor of being gay is people are born gay. I've always
countered that argument with a logical response. Do you think people are
born gay?

1) I'm inclined to think they are...
but
2) even if it is/was a choice, what possible concern is it of anyone
else that someone choose to be gay rather than straight?

Well, many people have used the argument that people are "born" gay in
order to force a mindset on others who disagree with the lifestyle.


I would quibble with your wording. Yes, people say that one is "born
gay" because that does push the discuss in a different direction. But
it's not an unreasonable starting point since the evidence is
overwhelming that a person IS born either gay or straight.

How can you tell if a baby is gay or straight?


However, I
don't think they do it specifically because others "disagree"with the
lifestyle, I think they do it because other ACDTIVELY try to prevent
gays from partaking of the SAME lifestyle that straights are allowed
to have, i.e. a married lifestyle and even before that point, many who
"disagree" want gays to be forced to hide in a closet. You know, the
people who think letting children know such a thing as a gay person
exists will somehow damage the child... those kind of people are not
content to just "disagree" but want to actively force gays underground
as well as prevent them from having a lifestyle comparable to
straights, i.e. the committed and possibly married lifestyle.

Frankly, I'd rather people keep their sexual preferences private. Why
do gays want everyone to know where they want to put their private
parts, anyway?

That aside gays could already marry anyone of age of the opposite gender
just like straight people could marry anyone of age of the opposite
gender. They already could have an equal lifestyle, BUT they don't want
an equal lifestyle. They want special rights to redefine marriage. So,
now that marriage is redefined, who is going to tell the next
combination who want to marry that they can't? How will our American
society define marriage in the future?

You've never addressed the legal precedence that now exists that
probably will be the precursor to such marriage combinations. I'd like
to see what you think will happen when the worst of the worst decides
they want the same privilege to marry.

You and the others are using all the very same arguments that were
used when people wanted to keep blacks from having the same rights as
whites. People who used those arguments were bigots and racists then
just as people using those arguments today are bigots. As you may
recall, back then many of the arguments, not all, were grounded in
peoples religious beliefs that blacks were inferior because it SAID SO
IN THE BIBLE. Now you want to use your religious beliefs to
discriminate against another minority, this time gays instead of
blacks. Shame on you.

I guarantee that you have a preconceived bias against one person, group,
race, religion, thought. If one acknowledges it, it can be bypassed. Until
it is acknowledged then you are a hypocrite.

--
Tekkie *Please post a follow-up*

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 15:42:07 -0400, Tekkie®
wrote:

Oren posted for all of us...



On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 14:26:50 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

It turns out I have bleeding ulcers in my stomach discovered by the camera but I've had no pain or upset stomach.

Last year I went to the gastro doc for black tar stools I'd had for a
week. Stopped just days before my visit. I just thought it was food I
had ate. Turns out is was an ulcer. They did photo it, gave me a copy.
Don't mess around and let them probe your pipes.

Did you get the second opinion?

Well. before the gastro doc. My neighbor is a cancer survivor, age
70. I used the same doc.

On 7/28/2015 9:59 AM, Muggles wrote:
On 7/28/2015 6:22 AM, Stormin Mormon wrote:

ahh well, sounds like a peaceful lifestyle to me.


I'd prefer to be more of a Ward Cleaver life, but
so far I've not got married, kids, house, or picket
fence.


I don't think a Ward Cleaver life really exists anywhere. I am thinking
about adding the picket fence in the front yard, though, so I can add
more flower beds and have even less grass to mow.


I'm with you, the Ward Cleaver thing not been
around for years.

Gives me a goal, for some day.
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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
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On 7/28/2015 2:46 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:41:08 -0400, Stormin Mormon

The only people trying to force others to make choices they
don't want to make are the religious adherents.

WRONG. Try again.


Have gays done any thing like trying to force others
to make choices they don't want to make? Like baking
faggot sodomite perverted sinful celebration cake?

That's not personal choices, those are business choices. It's no
different then trying to claim people being forced to install fire
sprinklers that meet code are being "forced to make choices they don't
want to make". Of course people are "forced to make choices they
don't want to make" every day. That's really not pertinent to his
discussion for the context.


Hey, you should use that logic in some place like
Iran. Go tell them that selling ham and cheese
sandwiches is a business decision mandate, and they
should not be offended.

As to the Christian bakers and the sodomite celebration
cake, the bakers sure took it personally.


Goalpost movement noted.


And, so, the gays are using the force of
law to force Christian bakers to make
cakes to celebrate sin. That's forcing
choices.

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On 7/28/2015 2:49 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 08:43:50 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 11:13 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:57:38 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 6:28 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
You imply you support bigotry so it's hardly name calling to say you
are a bigot.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bigot
Full Definition of BIGOT
: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own
opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the
members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance
— big·ot·ed
\-g?-t?d\ adjective
— big·ot·ed·ly adverb
See bigot defined for English-language learners
See bigot defined for kids
=========================================

I'm challenging you to demonstrate any hatred
in my writing. As to intolerance, same goes.
Teaching people not to sin is one of the most
loving things a man can do.

I'm not going back thru all the messages to see so if you feel I've
unjustly accused you I will withdraw my statement calling you a bigot.


Thank you. I accept.

Goal post move text deleted before reply.

IOW you won't answer simple questions because it would show your true
colors. Thanks for telling us all we need to know about your bigotry.


Or, it could be said that I'm very politely
staying on topic,

No, you are avoiding the topic. You are afraid to answer simple
questions. It exposes your true beliefs.


Thank you for withdrawing your accusation of bigot.


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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On 7/28/2015 2:51 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:57:01 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/19/2015 11:10 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 19 Jul 2015 09:20:12 -0400, Stormin Mormon
would never act like those bigoted bakers. Sure, Jesus might tell the
gay person that he thought what they were doing was a sin but he
would never discriminate against them. If you don't understand that
then you don't understand Jesus.


How about some physical action, then?

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/nt/matt/21?lang=eng

12 ¶And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that
sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the
moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,

What did the bible say about shaving, cutting your hair and eating
shellfish?


Noting your goal post move.

Noting your failure to defend you position for fear of being shown as
the hypocrite you apparently are.


Sure, Jesus might refuse to bake a cake celebrating
sin.


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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On 7/28/2015 2:52 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 21:56:49 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/25/2015 6:45 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:50:05 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Jesus might be speaking thru me. Prove he isn't.


Now I know you're a troll, trying to
prove a negative.

I've provided the teachings of the living
prophets, don't need to prove any more
than that.
https://www.lds.org/topics/same-gend...ction?lang=eng


Again, I'm not going to try to prove a negative.

No one is asking you to. You are being asked if you follow ALL the
laws regarding hair and beards such as these ones below or do you just
do what is convenient and suits you personally without regard to god's
laws?


Goal post move noted. Again. How many more times are
you going to try that nonsense?

No goals were moved. Just exposing your hypocrisy.


Ah, so you still want me to prove a negative, then?

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On 7/28/2015 2:54 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sun, 26 Jul 2015 18:19:07 -0400, Stormin Mormon
wrote:

On 7/26/2015 9:58 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Saturday, July 25, 2015 at 9:56:35 PM UTC-4, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 7/25/2015 6:45 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:50:05 -0400, Stormin Mormon
Jesus might be speaking thru me. Prove he isn't.


Now I know you're a troll, trying to
prove a negative.

I've provided the teachings of the living
prophets, don't need to prove any more
than that.
https://www.lds.org/topics/same-gend...ction?lang=eng


Again, I'm not going to try to prove a negative.

No one is asking you to. You are being asked if you follow ALL the
laws regarding hair and beards such as these ones below or do you just
do what is convenient and suits you personally without regard to god's
laws?


Goal post move noted. Again. How many more times are
you going to try that nonsense?

--

To be fair, it's not moving the goal posts. It's a very fair and
legitimate question as to why some people want to strictly interpret
the little bit the bible has to say about homosexuality,
while totally ignoring what it says about all those other things.
And when you choose to enforce all the bizarre rules, or most of the rules
from 2000 years ago, some very, very bad things happen as you can
see from radical muslims.


"Jesus speaks through me. Prove he doesn't."
"Do you pick and choose which of God's laws to follow?"

You mean those are the same? Looks like different
questions (goal post move) to me.

And you again feign stupidity as if you didn't understand Traders
point. Instead of addressing it you once again go off on a pointless
tangent to avoid talking about the obvious conflict between your
desire to enforce one tiny bit of bible "law" while turning a blind
eye to all the other bible "laws" that might inconvenience you too
much. Pure hypocrisy.


So, you still wanting me to prove a negative, then?

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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
..
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On 7/28/2015 2:56 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 22:45:27 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 10:14 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:53:46 -0500, Muggles wrote:

On 7/25/2015 5:48 PM, Ashton Crusher wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 11:07:00 -0500, Muggles wrote:


Prejudice is only bad if it supports evil. Otherwise, prejudice that
supports good is good prejudice.


And being prejudiced against someone simply because they are gay is
evil. Glad you are finally seeing the light.


Politically correct statements really kill individuality and freedom of
thought. Why would you want to do that?

It's not my fault you are the way you are.


True, but the same goes for gays, don't you think?

The gays aren't trying to tell you who you may or may not marry.


What does changing marriage laws do, then?


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Christopher A. Young
learn more about Jesus
.. www.lds.org
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 11:37:48 -0700, Ashton Crusher
wrote:


You and the others are using all the very same arguments that were
used when people wanted to keep blacks from having the same rights as
whites. People who used those arguments were bigots and racists then
just as people using those arguments today are bigots.

Thanks. You just explained Democrats for more than one hundred years.
Should I give you names for those that did?

On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 09:15:31 -0700 (PDT), Uncle Monster
wrote:

This was the most recent episode that I watched:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4870534/?ref_=tt_eps_cu_n
"Actress Ginnifer Goodwin delves into a family secret in hopes of
connecting her father with the grandparents he never knew. She is
shocked to find dark and turbulent lives filled with drug addiction and
life-altering consequences."

--
Maggie

Emmitt Smith a former NFL player who's quite Black was a guest on the show and was surprised that he had a Mulatto great grandmother who lived in Alabamastan and that he had living relatives from that branch of his family tree who now reside in Alabamastan. Many Negro Americans believe that they're part Native American are surprised to discover that those ancestors are actually Caucasian Europeans. Hell, I tell everyone that I must be part Negro because Italians and Hillbillies will mate with anything. I recall having an aaaaaaaaunt. ^_^


Ben Affleck told a television station to hide the fact he has an
ancestor who owned slaves, a batch of leaked emails linked to Sony has
revealed.

The Oscar-winning director and actor has come under fire for wanting
to lie and cover up his distant family past.

http://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/2015/04/19/wikileaks-reveal-ben-afflecks-slave-past-shame/?

When you do ancestor research like I did, just know what you find is
_not your fault_. First rule of family research. Do not let guilt get
you. I did find some skeletons in the closet, not my fault, though.