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How does one drill a hole in a guardrail anyway?
Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit
wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? |
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James Gagney wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Drill bits aren't supposed to make dents. To drill metal, you need a sharp, quality drill bit. Not the cheapo home improvement center bits. You also need some cutting oil, although lubricating oil will do in a pinch. Also, start with a 1/8" drill and work your way up. High RPM for the small bit, lower as you get bigger. Lastly, lean into it. WIth a drill press, the quill handle gives you a lot of mechanical advantage without you necessarily being aware of it. WIth a handheld drill, you have to put your weight behind it. If you don't, the drill will just get dull, rapidly. For the guard rail, since it's curved, you might want to center punch it to keep the drill from walking. |
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"James Gagney" wrote in message ... Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Center punch a starter point, and hit it HARD. Make a hole with a small (less than 1/4") bit. Graduate up from there in size. Don't overspin the bit. As long as you are getting cuttings, it's working. Don't spin your bit so fast that it gets hot and doesn't get a bite. You will just dull the bit, and if there's seashell looking coloration on the bit, it's been over heated. It's working perfectly when you get long spiral waste out of your cuttings. You might have to grab hold of something, or have someone push on your back to get some meat into the cutting end of the bit. That metal is hot dipped galvanized, but it is not that hard. HTH Steve |
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On 9/1/12 8:41 PM, James Gagney wrote:
Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? I'd probably just use a cheap ratchet strap or bungee cord to hold the can. Another thought would be an over door hanger of some sort. Would an animal feed bucket fit your needs? Or this http://tinyurl.com/9y3q846 ? It's supposed to hold a five gallon bucket. |
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"James Gagney" wrote in message ... Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Some sort of glue (RTV) comes to mind. |
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James Gagney writes:
Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? That railing doesn't look like the kind of thing a poster here would own... Are you sure the owner wants holes drilled in his railing? -- Dan Espen |
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On Sep 1, 8:14*pm, "NotMe" wrote:
"James Gagney" wrote in message ... Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Some sort of glue (RTV) comes to mind. As well as the 'center punch' and "lean on it" advice, get a titanium drill bit. Probably not really needed but they are designed for 'hard material'. Harry K |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney
wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Occasionally, my drill is spinning the wrong direction. Don't do that. Consider attaching the clamp to the garbage can instead of the guard rail. If you do attach to the guard raile, consider that when your garbage can wears out, they might not be selling new ones of the same shape. (Although my plastic cans are 30 and 25 years old. One of the 30-year old ones got several vertical splits in it, and the garbage men took it and kept it. (Another time, someone stole the rectangular lid to a borrowed plastic can with wheels. I think it waw the garbage man because no one else was around. A couple weeks later, a repacement lid was left, same brand, but one size bigger) ) |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney
wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? I'd use a good quality bit and some oil. Even a spray of WD-40 works. A guy at work was having a similar problem drilling a hole in metal. He brought the bit to the maintenance supervisor and had is sharpened. Still would not drill right and he kidded the guy about his poor sharpening skills. The supervisor then went over, picked up his drill and changed it from reverse to forward. |
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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 00:06:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? I'd use a good quality bit and some oil. Even a spray of WD-40 works. A guy at work was having a similar problem drilling a hole in metal. He brought the bit to the maintenance supervisor and had is sharpened. Still would not drill right and he kidded the guy about his poor sharpening skills. The supervisor then went over, picked up his drill and changed it from reverse to forward. My friend gave me a little chain saw left behind at the ministorage she runs. It didn't cut. I'm glad I checked the chain. On backwards. Maybe that's why t hey left it behind. |
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James:
The problem is likely to be a dull drill bit. That guard rail is most likely made of mild steel that has a Rockwell Hardness of about Rc=35. Your drill bit looks like just a high speed steel bit, and it's got a hardness of about Rc=50 or so. So, if that were a sharp bit, you should have made some progress. If you were wanting advice from me on buying a new SET of drill bits, I'd tell you to buy a set of cobalt steel drill bits. These are the brownish coloured ones that look like this: http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/5...obalt-bits.jpg Cobalt steel bits provide for the best economy because they're made from a considerably harder kind of steel than high speed steel. Cobalt steel has a Rc hardness of about 65 or so. That results in the drill bit dulling slower than a HSS bit. And, if you dull a cobalt steel drill bit, you can have it sharpened, and you've effectively got a new drill bit for the $2 or $3 cost of sharpening it. But, for a one-time project like this one, my advice to you would be to buy a titanium nitride coated drill bit of the size you need. Titanium nitride coated drill bits are the gold coloured ones that look like this: http://www.irwin.com/uploads/product...l-bits-362.jpg Titanium nitride coated drill bits are nothing more than high speed steel drill bits with a SUPER hard coating on them. The hardness of that titanium nitride is about Rc = low 80's or so; 81, 82, 83 maybe. But, that's vastly harder than anything else on the market so titanium nitride bits will make the fastest progress and get dull the slowest. For a one time project like this, I'd pay a few dollars for a titanium nitride bit in the size you need, and just chuck it once it gets dull. You CAN have titanium nitride bits sharpened, but sharpening them grinds off the super hard titanium nitride cutting edges at the front of the bit, so you're effectively left with a sharp high speed steel bit that will dull just as quickly as any other high speed steel drill bit. And, as previously suggested, I'd use a cutting oil if you have any. If not, just stop frequently and use a Q-tip to apply any kinda oil (even cooking oil or engine oil) onto the hole you're making. That'll help to keep the drill bit cool. Last edited by nestork : September 2nd 12 at 07:00 AM |
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That's pretty much what I was going to write. Prick punch, to get the
location started. Brand new bit, 1/8. Use the next size larger, after that. Can also drill from the inside out, which will help with the drill bit wandering. Some country folks would use a .22 rimfire rifle, from about 50 feet, to make the initial hole. 40 grain jacketed solid. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Smitty Two" wrote in message ... See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg To drill metal, you need a sharp, quality drill bit. Not the cheapo home improvement center bits. You also need some cutting oil, although lubricating oil will do in a pinch. Also, start with a 1/8" drill and work your way up. High RPM for the small bit, lower as you get bigger. Lastly, lean into it. WIth a drill press, the quill handle gives you a lot of mechanical advantage without you necessarily being aware of it. WIth a handheld drill, you have to put your weight behind it. If you don't, the drill will just get dull, rapidly. For the guard rail, since it's curved, you might want to center punch it to keep the drill from walking. |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney
wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Is that a wooden post the guiderail is attached to? You might have better luck drilling that. Use a sharp bit. Or use a $20 Harbor freight magnet. Jim [not to be a nanny-- but is that *your* hardware you're trying to drill a hole in?] |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
: Some country folks would use a .22 rimfire rifle, from about 50 feet, to make the initial hole. 40 grain jacketed solid. Who makes a jacketed .22 rimfire bullet? I think a .22 would probably not make it through steel that thick; I think you'd need a centerfire bullet to do it. -- Tegger |
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Dunno about the jackets. I havn't researched that. Sounded good. You may be
right about the steel thickness. Calls for some testing. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Tegger" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in : Some country folks would use a .22 rimfire rifle, from about 50 feet, to make the initial hole. 40 grain jacketed solid. Who makes a jacketed .22 rimfire bullet? I think a .22 would probably not make it through steel that thick; I think you'd need a centerfire bullet to do it. -- Tegger |
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James Gagney wrote in news:k1udgn$4f5$1
@speranza.aioe.org: http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg Manual Ramset. Remove nail. You're done. Project approach to completion time - 30 sec. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
: Dunno about the jackets. I havn't researched that. Sounded good. You may be right about the steel thickness. Calls for some testing. That's the fun part... -- Tegger |
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On 9/2/2012 7:52 AM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Is that a wooden post the guiderail is attached to? You might have better luck drilling that. Thinking the same thing. If the objective is to use fasteners then driving a couple screws with washers into the post from the inside of the can is a quick way to do it without drilling someones guard rail. Use a sharp bit. Or use a $20 Harbor freight magnet. Jim [not to be a nanny-- but is that *your* hardware you're trying to drill a hole in?] |
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On 09/01/2012 06:49 PM, Smitty Two wrote:
To drill metal, you need a sharp, quality drill bit. Not the cheapo home improvement center bits. As long as it is a HSS twist bit, it doesn't matter if you buy it from the big box; if he follows the rest of your suggestions it will work just fine. The only thing I would add is to start with a smaller bit and work up to the size he wants. Jon You also need some cutting oil, although lubricating oil will do in a pinch. Also, start with a 1/8" drill and work your way up. High RPM for the small bit, lower as you get bigger. Lastly, lean into it. WIth a drill press, the quill handle gives you a lot of mechanical advantage without you necessarily being aware of it. WIth a handheld drill, you have to put your weight behind it. If you don't, the drill will just get dull, rapidly. For the guard rail, since it's curved, you might want to center punch it to keep the drill from walking. |
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Bill wrote: In article , says... James Gagney writes: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? That railing doesn't look like the kind of thing a poster here would own... Are you sure the owner wants holes drilled in his railing? Right! Those guardrails are designed to collapse in the event a vehicle hits one. This reduces injuries to people in the vehicle. I would rather not be responsible for modifying one or mounting objects on one which would in any way alter the function of it! (And then get some lawyer claiming I was partially responsible for injuries caused in an accident.) Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d...hardware/ctrme asures/breakaway/ When people are killed in car accidents, instead of leaving flowers at the site, we should just leave the dead bodies there. Then we'd develop safer drivers, instead of this ridiculous fascination we have with compensating for stupidity. By using terms like "errant vehicle" we absolve the nut behind the wheel. I think we've taken that absolution a little too far. |
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"James Gagney" wrote in message ... Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? Attach a beam clamp to the garbage can.... |
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"micky" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 00:06:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? I'd use a good quality bit and some oil. Even a spray of WD-40 works. A guy at work was having a similar problem drilling a hole in metal. He brought the bit to the maintenance supervisor and had is sharpened. Still would not drill right and he kidded the guy about his poor sharpening skills. The supervisor then went over, picked up his drill and changed it from reverse to forward. My friend gave me a little chain saw left behind at the ministorage she runs. It didn't cut. I'm glad I checked the chain. On backwards. Maybe that's why t hey left it behind. I got one of those too $170 saw for $10 Even funnier, there was a embossed picture next to the chain guard on how the chain links should look if properly installed. |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:51:29 -0500, "Atila Iskander"
wrote: "micky" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 00:06:19 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote: On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 01:41:43 +0000 (UTC), James Gagney wrote: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? I'd use a good quality bit and some oil. Even a spray of WD-40 works. A guy at work was having a similar problem drilling a hole in metal. He brought the bit to the maintenance supervisor and had is sharpened. Still would not drill right and he kidded the guy about his poor sharpening skills. The supervisor then went over, picked up his drill and changed it from reverse to forward. My friend gave me a little chain saw left behind at the ministorage she runs. It didn't cut. I'm glad I checked the chain. On backwards. Maybe that's why t hey left it behind. I got one of those too $170 saw for $10 Even funnier, there was a embossed picture next to the chain guard on how the chain links should look if properly installed. LOL.....LOL some more. |
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Smitty Two wrote in
: In article , Bill wrote: In article , says... James Gagney writes: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? That railing doesn't look like the kind of thing a poster here would own... Are you sure the owner wants holes drilled in his railing? Right! Those guardrails are designed to collapse in the event a vehicle hits one. This reduces injuries to people in the vehicle. I would rather not be responsible for modifying one or mounting objects on one which would in any way alter the function of it! (And then get some lawyer claiming I was partially responsible for injuries caused in an accident.) Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d...d_hardware/ctr me asures/breakaway/ When people are killed in car accidents, instead of leaving flowers at the site, we should just leave the dead bodies there. Then we'd develop safer drivers, instead of this ridiculous fascination we have with compensating for stupidity. By using terms like "errant vehicle" we absolve the nut behind the wheel. I think we've taken that absolution a little too far. In VT, many parts of the interstate are divided by rock formations left when the road was built. The people you describe were having a "hard" time with them pun blatently intended. So they wanted to remove it to make it safer for assholes. Guess someone figured hitting oncoming interstate traffic was a good thing. http://news.google.com/newspapers?id... 35%2C5560016 |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:33:56 -0700, Bill
wrote: Are you sure the owner wants holes drilled in his railing? Right! Those guardrails are designed to collapse in the event a vehicle hits one. This reduces injuries to people in the vehicle. I would rather not be responsible for modifying one or mounting objects on one which would in any way alter the function of it! (And then get some lawyer claiming I was partially responsible for injuries caused in an accident.) Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d...hardware/ctrme asures/breakaway/ How do we know it is in a place cars will hit it? Could just be a barrier along a walkway in a park. Do you think he'd be mounting a trash can along an I-95 exit ramp? |
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Ed Pawlowski wrote in
: On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:33:56 -0700, Bill wrote: Are you sure the owner wants holes drilled in his railing? Right! Those guardrails are designed to collapse in the event a vehicle hits one. This reduces injuries to people in the vehicle. I would rather not be responsible for modifying one or mounting objects on one which would in any way alter the function of it! (And then get some lawyer claiming I was partially responsible for injuries caused in an accident.) Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d..._hardware/ctrm e asures/breakaway/ How do we know it is in a place cars will hit it? Could just be a barrier along a walkway in a park. Do you think he'd be mounting a trash can along an I-95 exit ramp? That would be major stupid wouldn't it. They've already tossed the trash out the window. |
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James Gagney wrote the following on 9/1/2012 9:41 PM (ET):
Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? No one has asked yet, so I will. Why a garbage can attached to a guardrail? -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeros after @ |
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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:17:20 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d...hardware/ctrme asures/breakaway/ When people are killed in car accidents, instead of leaving flowers at the site, we should just leave the dead bodies there. There may be some practical problems with that. I'll have to check But one thing I've seen in several states is a white cross where each person died. I'm not a Christian and I dislike enormously attempts to insert religion into the government anywhere, including Christian or other sectarian invocations at football games. This is the one and only place where I woudn't object -- if private parties do it and not the Highway Department or Police -- because it is simple, easy, and clear, and they can be placed just where each person died, or just off the road where the car came to rest. It marks the part of the road that has been proven to be dangerous. So sometimes I see tham at a curve at the end of a long straight run. I've even seen the top dipped in red paint. I guess that is the same plain white, since surely no one is marking mere injuries. Unless there was a death and injuries in the same accident. If I die in a traffic accident, I'm sure one of my friends will come and remove any cross put up where I die. Then we'd develop safer drivers, instead of this ridiculous fascination we have with compensating for stupidity. By using terms like "errant vehicle" we absolve the nut behind the wheel. I think we've taken that absolution a little too far. |
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And, in area with no electric. Something fishy, here.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "willshak" wrote in message ... See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? No one has asked yet, so I will. Why a garbage can attached to a guardrail? -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeros after @ |
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I'm awaiting the test results.
Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 05:58:26 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Some country folks would use a .22 rimfire rifle, from about 50 feet, to make the initial hole. 40 grain jacketed solid. A .22 would not even dent that material. I doubt any pistol would hurt it unless you have a "cop killer" bullet. Maybe a .308? If you have an AP round it would be a clean hole. |
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On 9/2/12 2:00 PM, Jim Elbrecht wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:48:13 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 05:58:26 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Some country folks would use a .22 rimfire rifle, from about 50 feet, to make the initial hole. 40 grain jacketed solid. A .22 would not even dent that material. I doubt any pistol would hurt it unless you have a "cop killer" bullet. Maybe a .308? If you have an AP round it would be a clean hole. I think I could make a .45 caliber hole in that with a pistol. Jim [if I had a pistol, that is] I think the OP could wait for deer season. Put up a dummy buck and see what happens. Would an 8 pointer be over doing it? |
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Dummy buck practicing hard cover? I think that's
ammusing. Concealment is essential. Cover is better. Tracers work both ways. 5 second fuses last 3 seconds. Battle radios aren't loud enough, and their range is about half mile short of reaching the fire base. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Dean Hoffman" " wrote in message ... Maybe a .308? If you have an AP round it would be a clean hole. I think I could make a .45 caliber hole in that with a pistol. Jim [if I had a pistol, that is] I think the OP could wait for deer season. Put up a dummy buck and see what happens. Would an 8 pointer be over doing it? |
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How does one drill a hole in a guardrail anyway?
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Ed Pawlowski wrote: How do we know it is in a place cars will hit it? Could just be a barrier along a walkway in a park. Do you think he'd be mounting a trash can along an I-95 exit ramp? Yeah, the original pic shows the cordless drill sitting on the guardrail mounting post. Using the drill for a scale reference, I'd make the post a 4 x 4. Seems a little light for a highway guardrail. |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:03:17 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Dunno about the jackets. I havn't researched that. Sounded good. You may be right about the steel thickness. Calls for some testing. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "Tegger" wrote in message ... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in : Some country folks would use a .22 rimfire rifle, from about 50 feet, to make the initial hole. 40 grain jacketed solid. Who makes a jacketed .22 rimfire bullet? I suppose you mean FMJ (JHP is "jacketed, too";-). In any case, be careful how you ask a question: http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...NITION#skugrid I think a .22 would probably not make it through steel that thick; I think you'd need a centerfire bullet to do it. It would probably make a mess of the reverse side, too. |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 08:33:56 -0700, Bill wrote:
In article , says... James Gagney writes: Today I tried drilling a hole in the guardrail - but the drill bit wouldn't make a dent. See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? That railing doesn't look like the kind of thing a poster here would own... Are you sure the owner wants holes drilled in his railing? Right! Those guardrails are designed to collapse in the event a vehicle hits one. This reduces injuries to people in the vehicle. I would rather not be responsible for modifying one or mounting objects on one which would in any way alter the function of it! (And then get some lawyer claiming I was partially responsible for injuries caused in an accident.) Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d...hardware/ctrme asures/breakaway/ Bungee cord. |
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On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 14:51:14 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 09:17:20 -0700, Smitty Two wrote: Traffic engineers would have a fit if they saw that. They go to a lot of work to get road signs and so forth to "break away" if a vehicle hits them. Like this... http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/roadway_d...hardware/ctrme asures/breakaway/ When people are killed in car accidents, instead of leaving flowers at the site, we should just leave the dead bodies there. There may be some practical problems with that. I'll have to check But one thing I've seen in several states is a white cross where each person died. I'm not a Christian and I dislike enormously attempts to insert religion into the government anywhere, including Christian or other sectarian invocations at football games. This is the one and only place where I woudn't object -- if private parties do it and not the Highway Department or Police -- because it is simple, easy, and clear, and they can be placed just where each person died, or just off the road where the car came to rest. It marks the part of the road that has been proven to be dangerous. So sometimes I see tham at a curve at the end of a long straight run. I've even seen the top dipped in red paint. I guess that is the same plain white, since surely no one is marking mere injuries. Unless there was a death and injuries in the same accident. If I die in a traffic accident, I'm sure one of my friends will come and remove any cross put up where I die. It must be horrible to have to go through life, going OUT OF YOUR WAY, to hate so much. Amazing, really. |
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2012 15:08:17 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: And, in area with no electric. Something fishy, here. Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . "willshak" wrote in message ... See picture he http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...mg/9153893.jpg What would you use to drill a hole suitable for mounting a garbage can where there is no electricity available? No one has asked yet, so I will. Why a garbage can attached to a guardrail? Nothing fishy. I figure he lives on a road with a ditch and a guardrail to keep cars from going in tthe ditch. a guardrail right next to the driveable shoulder. And he has to take the garbage to the foot of the long driveway to have it picked up, and the wind, maybe wind from passing semis, blows the can over and/or into the ditch if it's not secured in some way. Although it's not his property , unless a hole is going to get a lot bigger becasue the tin layer has been breeched, I don't have a probem with him drilling one hole. OTOH, he could use two 1-inch C-clamps to hold each end of a bungee cord and hold a garbage can of any shape and size in place. I myself would put them on the bottom of the rail so they ddid't look bad from the road, although I'm sure the view from the road is not perfection anyhow. . |
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