On 7/21/2012 7:00 PM, Puddin' Man wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 13:45:04 -0500, wrote:

On 7/20/2012 5:13 PM, Puddin' Man wrote:
....

Near as I can tell, the dowel holes in the stile in that location were angled,
resulting in the "warp". I reamed the 2 out as carefully as possible, but it
looks like I just duplicated the angle 'cause the result is the same.

I seriously doubt if the door originally was put together w/ out-of
alignment holes...if it were, then it would have been flat when new and
that's just not believable it wasn't...

That's what's nice about living in a free country: you are allowed to doubt
any damned thing you please.
....

Whatever...

I'm quite confident the door was flat when it left the factory. If you
don't care, I'm certain I don't, at least any longer.

As for glues; I addressed it at some length earlier.

Bye...

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Puddin' Man wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:40:55 -0400, "dadiOH"
wrote:

Is that epoxy, or is it one of the waterproof exterior glues?

IMO, you want epoxy. With a thickener. I've never timed it but
epoxy sets up very slowly, I'd think you'd have a minimum of 30
minutes and even then it doesn't set hard, just starts to get
syrupy. It won't get hard for a day; REALLY hard for several days.

Thickener?

As I've said at least twice before, fumed silica (Cabosil/Aerosil), micro
balloons, talc, wood dust, etc. I use Cabosil mostly.
http://www.uscomposites.com/fillers.html

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On 7/22/2012 8:42 AM, dadiOH wrote:
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As I've said at least twice before, fumed silica (Cabosil/Aerosil), micro
balloons, talc, wood dust, etc. I use Cabosil mostly.
http://www.uscomposites.com/fillers.html

OK, "inquiring minds" and all that...

What do you do that uses such stuff regularly?

I suppose if had had somesuch thing available way_back when doing the
restore work it could have been handy a few times, but I've never seemed
to miss it...

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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 04:27:22 +0000 (UTC), DerbyDad03
wrote:

Puddin' Man wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 14:40:55 -0400, "dadiOH" wrote:

Is that epoxy, or is it one of the waterproof exterior glues?

IMO, you want epoxy. With a thickener. I've never timed it but epoxy sets
up very slowly, I'd think you'd have a minimum of 30 minutes and even then
it doesn't set hard, just starts to get syrupy. It won't get hard for a
day; REALLY hard for several days.

Thickener?

Current candidate:
http://www.amazon.com/System-Three-T...rds=t-88+epoxy


As you are so fond of saying:

No!

When we say "thickener" we mean a filler such as one of the West Systems
fillers shown he

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/fillers/

These powdery products are added to the 2 part epoxy mix to form a thicker,
sometimes spreadable epoxy mix. I've mixed it as thick as peanut butter
when I've needed no running or drooping.

Typically the filler and epoxy is purchased from the same manufacturer to
ensure compatibility.

If you go to a real boating supply store, they will carry West Systems or
something similar. They'll have resin, hardener and various fillers for
various applications.
Wood flour works pretty good for the application at hand. Or cotton
flox, or micro-balloons. Personally I like the wood flour.

dpb wrote:
On 7/22/2012 8:42 AM, dadiOH wrote:
...

As I've said at least twice before, fumed silica (Cabosil/Aerosil),
micro balloons, talc, wood dust, etc. I use Cabosil mostly.
http://www.uscomposites.com/fillers.html

OK, "inquiring minds" and all that...

What do you do that uses such stuff regularly?

I don't use it regularly, just from time to time.

I built a stitch & glue pram a few years ago, needed Cabosil to thicken
epoxy for fillets and other purposes, had some left over. Since then I have
used it a few times one instance being when I cut a complicated piece of
molding incorrectly. Easy to put it back together so I could re-cut. There
have been other times too, don't recall the details.

Epoxy is also great when you have something that is difficult to clamp since
the parts only need to be stationary, not clamped.

Basically, a jug of epoxy, some Cabosil and some talc are handy things to
have around. The talc makes a great grain filler...mix it with a binder
such as poly or lacquer, let it dry and it will sand very easily to baby ass
smooth. Less binder/more talc is good as a glazing putty for deeper areas,
same thing as many automotive glazing putties at $10-$15 per tube.

Stitch & glue explanation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_and_glue

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"dadiOH" wrote:

dpb wrote:
On 7/22/2012 8:42 AM, dadiOH wrote:
...

As I've said at least twice before, fumed silica (Cabosil/Aerosil),
micro balloons, talc, wood dust, etc. I use Cabosil mostly.
http://www.uscomposites.com/fillers.html

OK, "inquiring minds" and all that...

What do you do that uses such stuff regularly?

I don't use it regularly, just from time to time.

I built a stitch & glue pram a few years ago, needed Cabosil to thicken
epoxy for fillets and other purposes, had some left over.
-snip-

Basically, a jug of epoxy, some Cabosil and some talc are handy things to
have around.
-snip-

The leftovers were the best part of my stitch and glue adventure. That
& the knowledge gained in the process. The little Bolger's Nymph
only saw the water a couple times before I ditched her.

Stitch & glue explanation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_and_glue

And here's the style I made- [not mine]
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/nymphtjf.htm

I don't regret the time spent building it-- but it wasn't what I
*really* needed.

Jim

Jim Elbrecht wrote:
"dadiOH" wrote:

dpb wrote:
On 7/22/2012 8:42 AM, dadiOH wrote:
...

As I've said at least twice before, fumed silica (Cabosil/Aerosil),
micro balloons, talc, wood dust, etc. I use Cabosil mostly.
http://www.uscomposites.com/fillers.html

OK, "inquiring minds" and all that...

What do you do that uses such stuff regularly?

I don't use it regularly, just from time to time.

I built a stitch & glue pram a few years ago, needed Cabosil to thicken
epoxy for fillets and other purposes, had some left over.
-snip-

Basically, a jug of epoxy, some Cabosil and some talc are handy things to
have around.
-snip-

The leftovers were the best part of my stitch and glue adventure. That
& the knowledge gained in the process. The little Bolger's Nymph
only saw the water a couple times before I ditched her.

Stitch & glue explanation...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_and_glue

And here's the style I made- [not mine]
http://www.ace.net.au/schooner/nymphtjf.htm

I don't regret the time spent building it-- but it wasn't what I
*really* needed.

Jim

No "stitch and glue" here but a lot of fiberglass and West Systems epoxy
and filler was used.

I'm pretty sure it won't float though. ;-)

2nd picture is my son winning the World Championship in Akron, Ohio

http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...LocalRamps.jpg
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...lHeatAkron.jpg
http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/q...kronTrophy.jpg

There's no way I'll ever regret the time spent building - and racing - it
with him.