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How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some
construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? |
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How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Not IME. It is a room one enters - frequently via the back door - to remove galoshes and the like so you don't track mud, snow, whatever into the house. I am almost 79 and the phrase has been around as long as I can remember (and I remember back to when I was two). -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote:
How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. |
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On 7/2/2012 1:51 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Doug wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Not IME. It is a room one enters - frequently via the back door - to remove galoshes and the like so you don't track mud, snow, whatever into the house. I am almost 79 and the phrase has been around as long as I can remember (and I remember back to when I was two). I'm in Ontario and mud room usually refers to a back room, either near garage, or from backyard, and mostly has a utility sink to clean up. I've noticed a number of newer houses, esp in rural areas with larger lots, incorporate a mud room/bathroom or mudroom/laundry combo beside garage entrance. but basically it's a small room near a back entrance so that you don't run into the kitchen and muddy things up there. |
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:41:55 -0500, "Doug"
wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Generally up here in the "great white north" the "mud room" is on the "secondary" entrance, not the formal entrance - while the "foyer" is at the formal or primary entrance. More or less an off-shoot from the farm-house where when you came in from the barn there was a room where you took off your "barn clothes" before entering the kitchen.(after the days of the "woodshed" and "summer kitchen") And do you call the foyer the "foy yey" or the "foy- yerr" |
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On 7/2/2012 1:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
.... Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them:... Of course there is...you couldn't have had any mud if you tried... -- |
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On Jul 2, 3:39*pm, dpb wrote:
On 7/2/2012 1:33 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: ... Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them:... Of course there is...you couldn't have had any mud if you tried... -- I played softball in an grocery store league for a few years. The games were played in a school yard with bases and baselines painted on the black top. Sliding sucked. |
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"Doug" wrote in message ... How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? I am very interested in this concept, and should I ever build another house, it will have mud rooms at every entrance for multiple reasons. A foyer, I guess, is any reception area. I think if one makes it into an entire enclosed room intended for cleanliness, it becomes a "mud room". I think whether hooked up to the HVAC system, or not, they would tremendously affect the infiltration of outside air, and the loss of interior heated/cooled air. Especially if any children are involved. A situation where the two doors cannot be opened at the same time would be advisable. They can be entirely shut off from the system with a simple vent damper, or left to cool/heat with the rest of the system. Or just a simple electric heater in the winter, or a fan in the summer would make them comfortable. As for an area where outside contamination is attempted to be controlled, they can't be beat. A place specifically for hats, coats, wet or muddy attire, whatever. It just depends on your area, and how scungy you get when you go out to do battle with the elements. I understand in Siberia, a "mud room" is common to every house, as an opening of any door can lose a huge amount of warm air in a few seconds. They are an intentional barrier against arctic conditions, and have two doors. "Mud rooms" would not have to be muddy dreary areas, and with some basic decorations, they could be a very nice welcome room. With some advanced decoration, they could be a warm reception for anyone entering the house. I think they would be fun to design and decorate when planning a house. Steve |
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"Doug" wrote in message
... How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Real estate agents can answer you precisely. Mud rooms are more common in rural and village architecture than in cities with paved streets: and have been common for 150-odd years. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:14:55 -0700, "Steve B" wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message .. . How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? I am very interested in this concept, and should I ever build another house, it will have mud rooms at every entrance for multiple reasons. A foyer, I guess, is any reception area. I think if one makes it into an entire enclosed room intended for cleanliness, it becomes a "mud room". I think whether hooked up to the HVAC system, or not, they would tremendously affect the infiltration of outside air, and the loss of interior heated/cooled air. Especially if any children are involved. A situation where the two doors cannot be opened at the same time would be advisable. They can be entirely shut off from the system with a simple vent damper, or left to cool/heat with the rest of the system. Or just a simple electric heater in the winter, or a fan in the summer would make them comfortable. As for an area where outside contamination is attempted to be controlled, they can't be beat. A place specifically for hats, coats, wet or muddy attire, whatever. It just depends on your area, and how scungy you get when you go out to do battle with the elements. I understand in Siberia, a "mud room" is common to every house, as an opening of any door can lose a huge amount of warm air in a few seconds. They are an intentional barrier against arctic conditions, and have two doors. That is what you call an "air lock" - which IS one function of a mud-room. "Mud rooms" would not have to be muddy dreary areas, and with some basic decorations, they could be a very nice welcome room. With some advanced decoration, they could be a warm reception for anyone entering the house. I think they would be fun to design and decorate when planning a house. Steve |
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 12:41:55 -0500, "Doug"
wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? If you'd have ventured up as far as the Catskills you'd have heard the term since about the 50's. In general terms- it was where you kicked your boots off. I've seen them 4x4 & I've seen them 12x40. Might be heated space-- maybe not. Could have a brushed concrete floor-- or imported Eye-talian marble. . . . Jim |
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On Jul 2, 7:06*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:14:55 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message .. . How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? I am very interested in this concept, and should I ever build another house, it will have mud rooms at every entrance for multiple reasons. A foyer, I guess, is any reception area. *I think if one makes it into an entire enclosed room intended for cleanliness, it becomes a "mud room". *I think whether hooked up to the HVAC system, or not, they would tremendously affect the infiltration of outside air, and the loss of interior heated/cooled air. *Especially if any children are involved. *A situation where the two doors cannot be opened at the same time would be advisable.. They can be entirely shut off from the system with a simple vent damper, or left to cool/heat with the rest of the system. * Or just a simple electric heater in the winter, or a fan in the summer would make them comfortable.. As for an area where outside contamination is attempted to be controlled, they can't be beat. *A place specifically for hats, coats, wet or muddy attire, whatever. *It just depends on your area, and how scungy you get when you go out to do battle with the elements. I understand in Siberia, a "mud room" is common to every house, as an opening of any door can lose a huge amount of warm air in a few seconds. They are an intentional barrier against arctic conditions, and have two doors. That is what you call an "air lock" - which IS one function of a mud-room. Which *could be* one function of a mud room. Not all mud rooms are designed to be air locks. Here's lots of pictures of areas referred to as mud rooms that aren't serving as air locks. http://www.houzz.com/mudroom "Mud rooms" would not have to be muddy dreary areas, and with some basic decorations, they could be a very nice welcome room. *With some advanced decoration, they could be a warm reception for anyone entering the house.. *I think they would be fun to design and decorate when planning a house. Steve |
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Duesenberg wrote:
On 7/2/2012 1:51 PM, dadiOH wrote: Doug wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Not IME. It is a room one enters - frequently via the back door - to remove galoshes and the like so you don't track mud, snow, whatever into the house. I am almost 79 and the phrase has been around as long as I can remember (and I remember back to when I was two). I'm in Ontario and mud room usually refers to a back room, either near garage, or from backyard, and mostly has a utility sink to clean up. I've noticed a number of newer houses, esp in rural areas with larger lots, incorporate a mud room/bathroom or mudroom/laundry combo beside garage entrance. but basically it's a small room near a back entrance so that you don't run into the kitchen and muddy things up there. It can also function as a weather lock, keeping wind out if there are two doors. Good in cold climates. Greg |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 17:42:49 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 2, 7:06Â*pm, wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 15:14:55 -0700, "Steve B" wrote: "Doug" wrote in message .. . How long has this word(s) been around. Â*I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. Â* Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. Â* Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? I am very interested in this concept, and should I ever build another house, it will have mud rooms at every entrance for multiple reasons. A foyer, I guess, is any reception area. Â*I think if one makes it into an entire enclosed room intended for cleanliness, it becomes a "mud room". Â*I think whether hooked up to the HVAC system, or not, they would tremendously affect the infiltration of outside air, and the loss of interior heated/cooled air. Â*Especially if any children are involved. Â*A situation where the two doors cannot be opened at the same time would be advisable. They can be entirely shut off from the system with a simple vent damper, or left to cool/heat with the rest of the system. Â* Or just a simple electric heater in the winter, or a fan in the summer would make them comfortable. As for an area where outside contamination is attempted to be controlled, they can't be beat. Â*A place specifically for hats, coats, wet or muddy attire, whatever. Â*It just depends on your area, and how scungy you get when you go out to do battle with the elements. I understand in Siberia, a "mud room" is common to every house, as an opening of any door can lose a huge amount of warm air in a few seconds. They are an intentional barrier against arctic conditions, and have two doors. That is what you call an "air lock" - which IS one function of a mud-room. Which *could be* one function of a mud room. Not all mud rooms are designed to be air locks. Here's lots of pictures of areas referred to as mud rooms that aren't serving as air locks. Steve It is one function of a mud-room - whether a designer decides to implement it or not is his problem. I didn't say ALL mud rooms are air locks - but if it has a door on either end, making it a ROOM, not a hallway, it can be used as an air-lock. |
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On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. You basically described what I lived in then. I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? Well everyone is educating me now. I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. Thanks !! |
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On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote:
On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug"
wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. I could be wrong about that. It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. |
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On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:06:43 -0400, clare wrote:
I understand in Siberia, a "mud room" is common to every house, as an opening of any door can lose a huge amount of warm air in a few seconds. They are an intentional barrier against arctic conditions, and have two doors. That is what you call an "air lock" - which IS one function of a mud-room. We call ours a "dog lock"; it stops the critters escaping when coming into the house. |
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. |
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On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:13:29 -0500, CRNG wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. I could be wrong about that. It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. Well I moved from Flushing to Nassau County for a couple of years before I moved to Texas. I left LI in late 1979. I use to take the subway train thru Astoria on the way to Manhattan. I think it was the IRT #7. |
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On Jul 4, 1:34*am, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. *I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. I lived on Reeves Ave. As you may recall, Bowne was on the corner of Reeves and Main. I went to PS 219 and JHS 218, but I went to Hillcrest HS in Jamaica. I did it as a favor for my Dad. He was President of Bowne's PTA when they announced that every one who lived south of Jewel Ave had to go to Hillcrest when it opened. My dad got a lot heat from the parents of the kids who were going to have to Hillcrest, but there was nothing he could do about it. He asked me if I would willing to go there to show that it wasn't such a bad thing and I said yes. I still hung out with all my friends who went to Bowne, but I got to make a whole new set of friends too. When I had days off from Hillcrest, I would sometimes go to class with my Bowne friends as a 'cousin' from out of town. I still find it kind of cool that kids could go from kindergarten through Graduate School all on that one big block. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. *It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. *She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. |
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On Jul 4, 1:38*am, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:13:29 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. *When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. *The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. *I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. *I could be wrong about that. *It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. Well I moved from Flushing to Nassau County for a couple of years before I moved to Texas. * I left LI in late 1979. *I use to take the subway train thru Astoria on the way to Manhattan. *I think it was the IRT #7. Yep...it was the 7 train that went from Flushing (Roosevelt Ave) to Times Square in Manhattan. 2nd stop out of Flushing was Shea Stadium and Flushing Meadows Park. I spent a few summers working in the park driving a "people mover" train between the zoo, the stadium and the boat house. |
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 4, 1:34*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. *I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. I lived on Reeves Ave. As you may recall, Bowne was on the corner of Reeves and Main. I went to PS 219 and JHS 218, but I went to Hillcrest HS in Jamaica. I did it as a favor for my Dad. He was President of Bowne's PTA when they announced that every one who lived south of Jewel Ave had to go to Hillcrest when it opened. My dad got a lot heat from the parents of the kids who were going to have to Hillcrest, but there was nothing he could do about it. He asked me if I would willing to go there to show that it wasn't such a bad thing and I said yes. I still hung out with all my friends who went to Bowne, but I got to make a whole new set of friends too. When I had days off from Hillcrest, I would sometimes go to class with my Bowne friends as a 'cousin' from out of town. I still find it kind of cool that kids could go from kindergarten through Graduate School all on that one big block. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. *It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. *She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. Gosh, I forgot my elementary school name but it was not far from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street. I also went to JHS 218 before Bowne. I started school in Flushing in the 6th grade. I went to 2 different elementary schools, one in Nassau Co. and then Flushing (6th grade). For some reason I don't remember either name but I bet if I google mapped it, I could find them. I think both are still standing. I don't remember a lot from JHS but remember more from HS. I had a number of friends then and we had a large graduating class. |
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:11:41 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 4, 1:38*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:13:29 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. *When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. *The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. *I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. *I could be wrong about that. *It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. Well I moved from Flushing to Nassau County for a couple of years before I moved to Texas. * I left LI in late 1979. *I use to take the subway train thru Astoria on the way to Manhattan. *I think it was the IRT #7. Yep...it was the 7 train that went from Flushing (Roosevelt Ave) to Times Square in Manhattan. 2nd stop out of Flushing was Shea Stadium and Flushing Meadows Park. I spent a few summers working in the park driving a "people mover" train between the zoo, the stadium and the boat house. I remember a bunch of my college friends and I had a nice game of touch football in Flushing Meadow Park. I remember there was a large field and that's where we played. Don't know if that spot is still there and to be honest, I don't remember the exact location now. |
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:38:28 -0500, "Doug"
wrote in Re mud rooms: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:13:29 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. I could be wrong about that. It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. Well I moved from Flushing to Nassau County for a couple of years before I moved to Texas. I left LI in late 1979. I use to take the subway train thru Astoria on the way to Manhattan. I think it was the IRT #7. I don't think you actually went through Astoria on the way to Manhattan. You probably are thinking of Queens Plaza at the edge of Long Island City where you could have switch trains to take the Manhattan train into the tunnel and under the East River. The upper part of the Queens Plaza station overlooked Long Island City HS where I went to school. Man, you are bringing back a lot of memories. |
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On Jul 4, 6:15*am, "Doug" wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 4, 1:34*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then.. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. *I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. I lived on Reeves Ave. As you may recall, Bowne was on the corner of Reeves and Main. I went to PS 219 and JHS 218, but I went to Hillcrest HS in Jamaica. I did it as a favor for my Dad. He was President of Bowne's PTA when they announced that every one who lived south of Jewel Ave had to go to Hillcrest when it opened. My dad got a lot heat from the parents of the kids who were going to have to Hillcrest, but there was nothing he could do about it. He asked me if I would willing to go there to show that it wasn't such a bad thing and I said yes. I still hung out with all my friends who went to Bowne, but I got to make a whole new set of friends too. When I had days off from Hillcrest, I would sometimes go to class with my Bowne friends as a 'cousin' from out of town. I still find it kind of cool that kids could go from kindergarten through Graduate School all on that one big block. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. *It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. *She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. Gosh, I forgot my elementary school name but it was not far from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street. *I also went to JHS 218 before Bowne. I started school in Flushing in the 6th grade. * I went to 2 different elementary schools, one in Nassau Co. and then Flushing (6th grade). For some reason I don't remember either name but I bet if I google mapped it, I could find them. * I think both are still standing. I don't remember a lot from JHS but remember more from HS. *I had a number of friends then and we had a large graduating class. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - PS-120 perhaps. Less than a 1/4 mile from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street, respectively. http://tinyurl.com/PS120 I went to PS 120 for K-4 when we lived on Lawrence St. which was right down the block and closer to Flushing Meadows Park. The park is on the site of the 64 - 65 World's Fair. For 2 years we awoke at 6AM to the sound of pile drivers driving piles down into the marshes so they could build the Fair buildings. A constant Boom - Boom - Boom all day, sunrise to sunset. We had a spot in the fence around the World's Fair where you could lift the bottom and roll under to sneak into the Fair. |
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On Jul 4, 6:39*am, CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:38:28 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:13:29 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. *When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. *The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. *I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. *I could be wrong about that. *It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. Well I moved from Flushing to Nassau County for a couple of years before I moved to Texas. * I left LI in late 1979. *I use to take the subway train thru Astoria on the way to Manhattan. *I think it was the IRT #7. I don't think you actually went through Astoria on the way to Manhattan. *You probably are thinking of Queens Plaza at the edge of Long Island City where you could have switch trains to take the Manhattan train into the tunnel and under the East River. *The upper part of the Queens Plaza station overlooked Long Island City HS where I went to school. You are right. The #7 goes through Corona, Jackson Heights and Long Island City before heading under the river. You have to switch to the N train at Queensboro Plaza to get to Astoria. Man, you are bringing back a lot of memories. No kidding! |
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"Jules Richardson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 02 Jul 2012 19:06:43 -0400, clare wrote: We call ours a "dog lock"; it stops the critters escaping when coming into the house. Yep. We have "cat locks" on three of the four doors on our house. Needless to say, we've NEVER used the fourth door in the 28 years we've lived here, and probably never will! |
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 05:39:54 -0500, CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 00:38:28 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 04:13:29 -0500, CRNG wrote: On Tue, 03 Jul 2012 00:29:03 -0500, "Doug" wrote in Re mud rooms: I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. I grew up in Astoria. When I first started to drive in 1965 I had 1961 Sunbeam Alpine. The only place I could get "foreign car" parts for it was a small parts store that was in Flushing. I seem to recall that is was near where Norther Blvd crossed over the creek near College Point Ave. I could be wrong about that. It's been a long time. I left NYC in 1969 and never went back, except for very brief family visits. Well I moved from Flushing to Nassau County for a couple of years before I moved to Texas. I left LI in late 1979. I use to take the subway train thru Astoria on the way to Manhattan. I think it was the IRT #7. I don't think you actually went through Astoria on the way to Manhattan. You probably are thinking of Queens Plaza at the edge of Long Island City where you could have switch trains to take the Manhattan train into the tunnel and under the East River. The upper part of the Queens Plaza station overlooked Long Island City HS where I went to school. Man, you are bringing back a lot of memories. Yeah, you're correct. My bad |
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:41:44 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 4, 6:15*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 4, 1:34*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. *I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. I lived on Reeves Ave. As you may recall, Bowne was on the corner of Reeves and Main. I went to PS 219 and JHS 218, but I went to Hillcrest HS in Jamaica. I did it as a favor for my Dad. He was President of Bowne's PTA when they announced that every one who lived south of Jewel Ave had to go to Hillcrest when it opened. My dad got a lot heat from the parents of the kids who were going to have to Hillcrest, but there was nothing he could do about it. He asked me if I would willing to go there to show that it wasn't such a bad thing and I said yes. I still hung out with all my friends who went to Bowne, but I got to make a whole new set of friends too. When I had days off from Hillcrest, I would sometimes go to class with my Bowne friends as a 'cousin' from out of town. I still find it kind of cool that kids could go from kindergarten through Graduate School all on that one big block. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. *It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. *She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. Gosh, I forgot my elementary school name but it was not far from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street. *I also went to JHS 218 before Bowne. I started school in Flushing in the 6th grade. * I went to 2 different elementary schools, one in Nassau Co. and then Flushing (6th grade). For some reason I don't remember either name but I bet if I google mapped it, I could find them. * I think both are still standing. I don't remember a lot from JHS but remember more from HS. *I had a number of friends then and we had a large graduating class. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - PS-120 perhaps. Less than a 1/4 mile from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street, respectively. http://tinyurl.com/PS120 I went to PS 120 for K-4 when we lived on Lawrence St. which was right down the block and closer to Flushing Meadows Park. The park is on the site of the 64 - 65 World's Fair. For 2 years we awoke at 6AM to the sound of pile drivers driving piles down into the marshes so they could build the Fair buildings. A constant Boom - Boom - Boom all day, sunrise to sunset. We had a spot in the fence around the World's Fair where you could lift the bottom and roll under to sneak into the Fair. Bingo, the moment you said PS 120, a bell went off in my head. Thanks for reminding me. I too lived a few blocks away from the 64 World's Fair and went to it a couple of times. I didn't know tho about the spot in the fence tho darn. And I don't think I heard the construction of the WF because I came in late '64 to Flushing so I think it was already open then or about to be. It was nice to have it so close. And I remember after it closed, they kept the grounds nice ... well at least what I saw from the #7 subway. |
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wrote in Re mud rooms: You are right. The #7 goes through Corona, Jackson Heights and Long Island City before heading under the river. You have to switch to the N train at Queensboro Plaza to get to Astoria. Man, you are bringing back a lot of memories. No kidding! Here's a question for you. When taking the train from Queensboro Plaza to Flushing, the first or second stop along the way had some kind of avaition oriented high school there. It was like a trade school that taught avaiation industry skills such as engine mechanics, etc. What was the name of that school? I can't remember it! |
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On Jul 5, 5:13*am, CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:04:34 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote in Re mud rooms: You are right. The #7 goes through Corona, Jackson Heights and Long Island City before heading under the river. You have to switch to the N train at Queensboro Plaza to get to Astoria. Man, you are bringing back a lot of memories. No kidding! Here's a question for you. *When taking the train from Queensboro Plaza to Flushing, the first or second stop along the way had some kind of avaition oriented high school there. *It was like a trade school that taught avaiation industry *skills such as engine mechanics, etc. * What was the name of that school? *I can't remember it! Aviation High School http://www.aviationhs.net/site_res_v...f-12ff765a9577 |
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On Thu, 5 Jul 2012 06:01:06 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote in Re mud rooms: On Jul 5, 5:13*am, CRNG wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 10:04:34 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote in Re mud rooms: Here's a question for you. *When taking the train from Queensboro Plaza to Flushing, the first or second stop along the way had some kind of avaition oriented high school there. *It was like a trade school that taught avaiation industry *skills such as engine mechanics, etc. * What was the name of that school? *I can't remember it! Aviation High School http://www.aviationhs.net/site_res_v...f-12ff765a9577 Duh! Well that makes sense. Thanks. |
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On Jul 4, 10:39*pm, "Doug" wrote:
On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:41:44 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 4, 6:15*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 4, 1:34*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. *I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. I lived on Reeves Ave. As you may recall, Bowne was on the corner of Reeves and Main. I went to PS 219 and JHS 218, but I went to Hillcrest HS in Jamaica. I did it as a favor for my Dad. He was President of Bowne's PTA when they announced that every one who lived south of Jewel Ave had to go to Hillcrest when it opened. My dad got a lot heat from the parents of the kids who were going to have to Hillcrest, but there was nothing he could do about it. He asked me if I would willing to go there to show that it wasn't such a bad thing and I said yes. I still hung out with all my friends who went to Bowne, but I got to make a whole new set of friends too. When I had days off from Hillcrest, I would sometimes go to class with my Bowne friends as a 'cousin' from out of town. I still find it kind of cool that kids could go from kindergarten through Graduate School all on that one big block. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. *It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. *She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. Gosh, I forgot my elementary school name but it was not far from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street. *I also went to JHS 218 before Bowne. I started school in Flushing in the 6th grade. * I went to 2 different elementary schools, one in Nassau Co. and then Flushing (6th grade). For some reason I don't remember either name but I bet if I google mapped it, I could find them. * I think both are still standing. I don't remember a lot from JHS but remember more from HS. *I had a number of friends then and we had a large graduating class. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - PS-120 perhaps. Less than a 1/4 mile from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street, respectively. http://tinyurl.com/PS120 I went to PS 120 for K-4 when we lived on Lawrence St. which was right down the block and closer to Flushing Meadows Park. The park is on the site of the 64 - 65 World's Fair. For 2 years we awoke at 6AM to the sound of pile drivers driving piles down into the marshes so they could build the Fair buildings. A constant Boom - Boom - Boom all day, sunrise to sunset. We had a spot in the fence around the World's Fair where you could lift the bottom and roll under to sneak into the Fair. Bingo, the moment you said PS 120, a bell went off in my head. Thanks for reminding me. I too lived a few blocks away from the 64 World's Fair and went to it a couple of times. * I didn't know tho about the spot in the fence tho * darn. * And I don't think I heard the construction of the WF because I came in late '64 to Flushing so I think it was already open then or about to be. * It was nice to have it so close. * And I remember after it closed, they kept the grounds nice ... well at least what I saw from the #7 subway. So I'm driving around town yesterday and what do I see in front of me? A 64 Impala with 64 NY World's Fair license plates! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NY-1964-64-W...-/370503127872 Now that's a spooky coincidence! |
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On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:41:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 4, 10:39*pm, "Doug" wrote: On Wed, 4 Jul 2012 09:41:44 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 4, 6:15*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 23:06:54 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 4, 1:34*am, "Doug" wrote: On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 00:38:09 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 3, 1:29*am, "Doug" wrote: On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 11:33:12 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 2, 1:41*pm, "Doug" wrote: How long has this word(s) been around. *I started watching some construction on tv and they give me the impression that the northern part of US (maybe Canada too) uses the term. * Well I lived around construction while in NYC , Long Island and some NY state for a number of years (moved away in late 70's) and never heard the term then. * Is a mud room similar to a foyer except it can be as a separate room? Having grown up in NYC (Queens) I had never heard of the term "mud room" until I moved to western NY in the early 80's. However, there may be a reason I never heard of them: None of the areas where I or any of my friends lived had the style of house where a mud room could have been included. We lived in row houses, side-by- side duplexes (not rentals, owner occupied on both sides), and of course, apartment buildings. None of these styles were really set up to have a mud room. I do recall some houses having a small, enclosed back porch or the like where shoes, baseball gloves and other assorted items piled up, but we never referred to them as mud rooms. Once I moved to western NY, my first memory of a mud room is of a room between a "semi attached" garage and the main house where dirty shoes and winter clothes could be removed. I later learned that they are simply a separate room accessed via a side or back door, sometimes doubling as a laundry room. I also grew up somewhat in Queens ... Flushing to be more exact. * You basically described what I lived in then. *I never lived upstate but frequented maybe once a year to visit relatives in Utica tho I have relatives in other parts of NY including western NY. * Maybe that's why I never heard of it just like yourself???? * *Well everyone is educating me now. * I now recall one of my aunts had a mud room on her house in Utica tho it was converted into a small kitchen but otherwise fits the description everyone so far described. *I will read the remaining posts in this thread now. * *Thanks !! Care to narrow it down even further? I too grew up in Flushing. Spent lots of time playing football, frisbee and sledding on the grounds of Queens College when there still a lot of green space. If you look out of my old front window now there's a glass and steel building instead of open field. Way, way back it was woods. I lived on Main Street and went to school at John Bowne HS. *I used to love it when the college students came over to protest and held up traffic on Main Street in front of the High School. I lived on Reeves Ave. As you may recall, Bowne was on the corner of Reeves and Main. I went to PS 219 and JHS 218, but I went to Hillcrest HS in Jamaica. I did it as a favor for my Dad. He was President of Bowne's PTA when they announced that every one who lived south of Jewel Ave had to go to Hillcrest when it opened. My dad got a lot heat from the parents of the kids who were going to have to Hillcrest, but there was nothing he could do about it. He asked me if I would willing to go there to show that it wasn't such a bad thing and I said yes. I still hung out with all my friends who went to Bowne, but I got to make a whole new set of friends too. When I had days off from Hillcrest, I would sometimes go to class with my Bowne friends as a 'cousin' from out of town. I still find it kind of cool that kids could go from kindergarten through Graduate School all on that one big block. Slightly off topic, a few years ago I was eating at a local restaurant in Houston, Texas and the woman at the next table started to talk to me. *It turned out she and I both graduated from John Bowne HS the same year. *She started to ask me if I knew so and so and unfortunately I didn't remember the names she threw at me. Gosh, I forgot my elementary school name but it was not far from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street. *I also went to JHS 218 before Bowne. I started school in Flushing in the 6th grade. * I went to 2 different elementary schools, one in Nassau Co. and then Flushing (6th grade). For some reason I don't remember either name but I bet if I google mapped it, I could find them. * I think both are still standing. I don't remember a lot from JHS but remember more from HS. *I had a number of friends then and we had a large graduating class. *- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - PS-120 perhaps. Less than a 1/4 mile from Booth Memorial Ave and Main Street, respectively. http://tinyurl.com/PS120 I went to PS 120 for K-4 when we lived on Lawrence St. which was right down the block and closer to Flushing Meadows Park. The park is on the site of the 64 - 65 World's Fair. For 2 years we awoke at 6AM to the sound of pile drivers driving piles down into the marshes so they could build the Fair buildings. A constant Boom - Boom - Boom all day, sunrise to sunset. We had a spot in the fence around the World's Fair where you could lift the bottom and roll under to sneak into the Fair. Bingo, the moment you said PS 120, a bell went off in my head. Thanks for reminding me. I too lived a few blocks away from the 64 World's Fair and went to it a couple of times. * I didn't know tho about the spot in the fence tho * darn. * And I don't think I heard the construction of the WF because I came in late '64 to Flushing so I think it was already open then or about to be. * It was nice to have it so close. * And I remember after it closed, they kept the grounds nice ... well at least what I saw from the #7 subway. So I'm driving around town yesterday and what do I see in front of me? A 64 Impala with 64 NY World's Fair license plates! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NY-1964-64-W...-/370503127872 Now that's a spooky coincidence! All I can say is WOW. Do you remember when the Mets won the pennant in 1969? Flushing went crazy honking horns a lot around Main Street. You could feel it in the air too grin. |
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On Jul 7, 1:48*am, "Doug" wrote:
On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:41:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 So I'm driving around town yesterday and what do I see in front o me? A 64 Impala with 64 NY World's Fair license plates! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NY-1964-64-W...Plate-Antique-... Now that's a spooky coincidence! All I can say is WOW. Do you remember when the Mets won the pennant in 1969? *Flushing went crazy honking horns a lot around Main Street. * You could feel it in the air too grin. Do I remember it? Sure...I was at the game! Funny story too... We were in Junior High at the time and cut school to go to the game. When the game was over all the fans ran down onto the field and many of us ripped up pieces of turf as souvenirs. We had a science teacher that was huge Met fan. The next day we told her that we had missed her class because we went to the game, figuring she would be all excited. The conversation went something like this: Picture a teacher with a big smile on her face, talking to three really excited and proud teenagers. Teach: Wow! Lucky you. I'll bet you had fun. Us: Sure did! Teach: Did you go down on the field? Us: Oh yeah! It was great! Teach: Did you get a piece of the turf? Us: Of course. I have a piece in my book bag. Do you want to see it? Teach: (No longer smiling) No. I want you to come back to my room after school for an extra assignment. I don't really mind that you cut my class to go to the game but I will not condone destruction of property. Do you know how much work they will have to do to fix the field for the next game? Since it was a science class, she made us do a lab experiment about growing grass. If we didn't do it she was going to turn us in for cutting class. We were more afraid of the punishment for cutting than doing the experiment so we did it. She got us good, playing the excited teacher and getting us to admit what we had done. Gotta give her credit! |
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On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 09:14:32 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: On Jul 7, 1:48*am, "Doug" wrote: On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:41:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 So I'm driving around town yesterday and what do I see in front o me? A 64 Impala with 64 NY World's Fair license plates! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NY-1964-64-W...Plate-Antique-... Now that's a spooky coincidence! All I can say is WOW. Do you remember when the Mets won the pennant in 1969? *Flushing went crazy honking horns a lot around Main Street. * You could feel it in the air too grin. Do I remember it? Sure...I was at the game! Funny story too... We were in Junior High at the time and cut school to go to the game. When the game was over all the fans ran down onto the field and many of us ripped up pieces of turf as souvenirs. We had a science teacher that was huge Met fan. The next day we told her that we had missed her class because we went to the game, figuring she would be all excited. The conversation went something like this: Picture a teacher with a big smile on her face, talking to three really excited and proud teenagers. Teach: Wow! Lucky you. I'll bet you had fun. Us: Sure did! Teach: Did you go down on the field? Us: Oh yeah! It was great! Teach: Did you get a piece of the turf? Us: Of course. I have a piece in my book bag. Do you want to see it? Teach: (No longer smiling) No. I want you to come back to my room after school for an extra assignment. I don't really mind that you cut my class to go to the game but I will not condone destruction of property. Do you know how much work they will have to do to fix the field for the next game? Since it was a science class, she made us do a lab experiment about growing grass. If we didn't do it she was going to turn us in for cutting class. We were more afraid of the punishment for cutting than doing the experiment so we did it. She got us good, playing the excited teacher and getting us to admit what we had done. Gotta give her credit! Cute. I have a similar story but it involved a cop and different subject. Short story was I was rushing on some side roads to see something unusual and got stopped by a cop. He asked me why I was speeding and talked to me so long that he knew I would miss what I was speeding for and on top of that gave me a speeding ticket at the end of the long talk. He sorta got me twice that day. Anyway, I like your story. And don't worry, they build in the costs of what you did, into the ticket prices. |
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On Jul 7, 7:24*pm, "Doug" wrote:
On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 09:14:32 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 wrote: On Jul 7, 1:48*am, "Doug" wrote: On Fri, 6 Jul 2012 17:41:03 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03 So I'm driving around town yesterday and what do I see in front o me? A 64 Impala with 64 NY World's Fair license plates! http://www.ebay.com/itm/NY-1964-64-W...Plate-Antique-.... Now that's a spooky coincidence! All I can say is WOW. Do you remember when the Mets won the pennant in 1969? *Flushing went crazy honking horns a lot around Main Street. * You could feel it in the air too grin. Do I remember it? Sure...I was at the game! Funny story too... We were in Junior High at the time and cut school to go to the game. When the game was over all the fans ran down onto the field and many of us ripped up pieces of turf as souvenirs. We had a science teacher that was huge Met fan. The next day we told her that we had missed her class because we went to the game, figuring she would be all excited. The conversation went something like this: Picture a teacher with a big smile on her face, talking to three really excited and proud teenagers. Teach: Wow! Lucky you. I'll bet you had fun. Us: Sure did! Teach: Did you go down on the field? Us: Oh yeah! It was great! Teach: Did you get a piece of the turf? Us: Of course. I have a piece in my book bag. Do you want to see it? Teach: (No longer smiling) No. I want you to come back to my room after school for an extra assignment. I don't really mind that you cut my class to go to the game but I will not condone destruction of property. Do you know how much work they will have to do to fix the field for the next game? Since it was a science class, she made us do a lab experiment about growing grass. If we didn't do it she was going to turn us in for cutting class. We were more afraid of the punishment for cutting than doing the experiment so we did it. She got us good, playing the excited teacher and getting us to admit what we had done. Gotta give her credit! Cute. *I have a similar story but it involved a cop and different subject. * Short story was I was rushing on some side roads to see something unusual and got stopped by a cop. *He asked me why I was speeding and talked to me so long that he knew I would miss what I was speeding for and on top of that gave me a speeding ticket at the end of the long talk. *He sorta got me twice that day. * Anyway, I like your story. * And don't worry, they build in the costs of what you did, into the ticket prices. Whenever I get pulled over for speeding I always tell the cop to "Make it quick. Can't you see I'm in a hurry?" |
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