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Mixing small amounts of 2-cycle fuel
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't
last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob |
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On Jul 28, 4:05*am, zxcvbob wrote:
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. *It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. *So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. *The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. *I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) *I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. *Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. *Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. *When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. *(do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) *I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. *It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) *They seem to start easier that way. *When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. *By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob Interesting idea. BTW: Another useful gadget to measure oil is a baby's feed bottle. Ours are long disused (Our youngest is now 30!) and are graduated in ounces and millilitres. |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. I use Yahoo calendar for tires, and major appliances. It will send you a reminder when to dump them. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob
wrote: All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob Too much oil in the mix is killing your engine. It causes excessive carbon build up which will eventually break the rings and cause other problems. Walmart sells what looks like a large plastic hypodermic syringe for accurately mixing small quantities. Also note that "marine" two stroke oil is not interchangeable with the stuff for air cooled engines, which run hotter. Different characteristics for different operating temps. |
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zxcvbob wrote:
BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. 87 Octane will start better than 91 (although you probably can't tell the difference). The higher the Octane, the greater the ignition point. So-called "premium" gasoline was developed to prevent premature ignition in high-compression engines. |
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On Jul 28, 2:05*am, zxcvbob wrote:
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. *It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. *So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. *The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. *I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) *I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. *Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. *Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. *When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. *(do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) *I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. *It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) *They seem to start easier that way. *When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. *By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob I don't think gasahol is less stable but it is more prone to absorbing moisture and too much water would cause separation. Addition of oil would only add to the problem. I see no need to worry about gas stored for less than a year unless it is exposed to a lot of moisture and air. Air/oxidation is what causes gas to gel. Gas should be stored in filled, tightly sealed containers. For my generator and in the generator itself, I add 2 years worth of Stabil. After two years, the gas goes into my car and lawnmower. I have a piece of masking tape on the cans with the date purchased. Interesting idea about the premium gas. It may have extra carb cleaners. In my Lawnboy, I found it best to use their 2 cycle oil as it probably has detergents for this. I had been using a premium brand of 2 cycle oil but was needing frequent carburator cleaning. Before switching back to Lawnboy oil, I cleaned up the carb by adding cleaner to the gas. Near the end of the grass cutting season, I add Stabil to the gas and leave the mower full. It is a good idea to start up any engine with gas at least every 6 months as there may be evaporation in the carburator causing blockage. This happened to me last year with my snow thrower. Then I read in the manual not to use gasahol. Alcohol increase the solvent power of gasoline which has been a real PITA to everybody. |
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zxcvbob wrote:
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob Why not use Stabil? I mix one gallon of fuel for the weed wacker and put stabil in it. Sometimes it lasts more than a season with no issues. I put it in the lawnmower and snowblower and neither has ever had trouble starting at the beginning if their season. |
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zxcvbob wrote:
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. For 20 years, I've been using a small soda bottle, a syringe, and milliliters. Originally, my intention was to shorten the required shelf life by mixing less. Soda bottles seal tightly, which means I don't lose volatiles or draw in oxygen and water vapor. Concerned about reliability, I've always stored the bottles outside. I've never had a bottle crack. In my experience, a bottle will last years. Eventually, the seal in the cap goes bad. With a transparent bottle, I don't have to remember if I've added oil. It's easy to carry, easy to see how much is left, and easy to pour. At first I used a 1-liter bottle. Now I use a 591ml bottle with a magic-marker line for 500ml. Even full, it has 18% head space so it can warm up without much pressure. With a syringe, I can measure oil more precisely than with a glass. Not much oil is left on the walls, and it's internal, where it won't gather dirt. Because oil is viscous, a syringe needs big passages. I make fewer mistakes with easy calculations, and working with ml makes calculations easy. 500 ml at 50:1? I suck up 10 ml of oil with my syringe and squirt it into the bottle. |
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On Jul 28, 2:05*am, zxcvbob wrote:
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. *It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. *So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. *The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. *I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) *I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. *Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. *Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. *When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. *(do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) *I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. *It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) *They seem to start easier that way. *When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. *By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob Stabil is great product to use in 2 cycle Mix & regular gasoline in which it has shelf life of six months. more Great Products & Services at http://gentleenterprize.biz Rick |
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E Z Peaces wrote:
For 20 years, I've been using a small soda bottle, a syringe, and milliliters. You put gasoline in BOTTLES? You're gonna DIE! Bottles have been decreed by your betters as absolutely UNSUITABLE as containers for gasoline! They are dangerous! It is against the laws of God and man. Several people are going to have trouble sleeping tonight worrying that you may live in their town. |
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HeyBub wrote:
E Z Peaces wrote: For 20 years, I've been using a small soda bottle, a syringe, and milliliters. You put gasoline in BOTTLES? You're gonna DIE! Bottles have been decreed by your betters as absolutely UNSUITABLE as containers for gasoline! They are dangerous! It is against the laws of God and man. Several people are going to have trouble sleeping tonight worrying that you may live in their town. I like approved gasoline containers. They resist bursting from being struck. Their appearance warns of the contents. They even let some people get away with pouring gas on flames. I watched the gentleman next door pour gas from a 2-1/2 gallon can onto a trash fire. He's a full-time fireman. I'm leery of them indoors or in vehicles because they aren't always leak proof if knocked over and don't necessarily hold fumes. If I transport gasoline or keep it in my ventilated garage, it's in approved containers. If I mix 500ml in a bottle, I'll immediately pour some into a tank. So I have perhaps 250ml. I stow it outdoors in a spot where it will be protected from accidental damage and a spill won't mean a fire hazard. I've always kept an eye on the condition of bottles because a small spill would mean a small amount of environmental damage. I've never had a spill. I'd probably spill more than 250ml a year trying to pour 2-cycle mix from approved containers into little gas tanks. |
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Ralph Mowery wrote:
"rgentle" wrote in message ... Stabil is great product to use in 2 cycle Mix & regular gasoline in which it has shelf life of six months. more Great Products & Services at http://gentle-spam-enterprize.biz I have seen some 2 cycle oil that also acts like Stabil. Or so it states in so many words on the container. You didn't need to give the spammer free advertising.. |
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"rgentle" wrote in message ... Stabil is great product to use in 2 cycle Mix & regular gasoline in which it has shelf life of six months. more Great Products & Services at http://gentleenterprize.biz I have seen some 2 cycle oil that also acts like Stabil. Or so it states in so many words on the container. |
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"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message m... "rgentle" wrote in message ... Stabil is great product to use in 2 cycle Mix & regular gasoline in which it has shelf life of six months. more Great Products & Services at http://gentleenterprize.biz I have seen some 2 cycle oil that also acts like Stabil. Or so it states in so many words on the container. I've seen some 2 cycle oil that have Stabil already in it....I think it was in the small bottle of Ryobi oil that came with my string trimmer...Must be other brands now as well..... |
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On Jul 28, 10:27*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
E Z Peaces wrote: For 20 years, I've been using a small soda bottle, a syringe, and milliliters. You put gasoline in BOTTLES? You're gonna DIE! Bottles have been decreed by your betters as absolutely UNSUITABLE as containers for gasoline! They are dangerous! It is against the laws of God and man. Several people are going to have trouble sleeping tonight worrying that you may live in their town. Should we ask if he has a gas water heater and gas dryer in his garage? He has the fuel source and oxygen available. :-) Andy |
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Gasoline degradation over time
The Chevron.com website has a on-line source that provides information for your review. Specifically it says 22. How long can I store gasoline without it going bad? Gasoline stored in a tightly closed container in a cool place will stay good for at least one year. It is better if the container or fuel tank is almost (95 percent) full. If the container or fuel tank will be in the direct sun or will be heated above 30°C (80°F) much of the time, add an aftermarket fuel stabilizer to the gasoline when you first buy it. Gasoline-oil blends for two-stroke cycle engines stored under the proper conditions will keep as well as gasoline itself. http://www.chevron.com/products/prod...rgas/8_q-a/#22 -- Walter www.rationality.net - "zxcvbob" wrote in message ... All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote:
Mercury Marine is just the company name. Their "Quicksilver PWC" oil is designed for air-cooled engines (it even says not to use it if your engine needs TCW3), and the synthetic is rated JASO "FD" and ISO (Global) "GE". As soon as I hit Enter I realized that I mistyped that; the ISO rating should have been GD (there's not an E yet), and actually should be fully spelled out "ISO-L-EGD". But there's mo I've tried to verify the rating on this oil, in case I just read too much into the "synthetic" part. and now I can't find any spec sheets anywhere. I've written to Mercury but I haven't gotten a reply yet (and doubt that I will.) It seems that most 2-cycle oil repackagers don't want you to be able to compare their products, so they don't spec them any more specific than TC vs. TC-W and TCW3. Bob |
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I hope you have it clearly and obviously labelled. My
grandfather (long since dead) used to use a quart whiskey bottle for gasoline for his well pump. The bottle was labelled in ounces. He remarked one time hoping no one drank out of that bottle. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "E Z Peaces" wrote in message ... For 20 years, I've been using a small soda bottle, a syringe, and milliliters. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
I hope you have it clearly and obviously labelled. My grandfather (long since dead) used to use a quart whiskey bottle for gasoline for his well pump. The bottle was labelled in ounces. He remarked one time hoping no one drank out of that bottle. With glass and plain gasoline, I can imagine the danger. It may be hard to smell what's in a rigid bottle, and somebody wanting a gulp of warm liquor may not want to smell it. I keep it on a beam in a shed that's open on three sides. Kids couldn't reach it. Suppose an adult spots it and has a sudden hankering for half a bottle of warm soda that could be years old. If he takes it down, the first thing he notices is that the plastic cap is grimy from being opened and closed with oily hands. The he notices that the fluid is dark blue, unlike soda. If he still wants a drink, it would be hard to get the short-necked, flexible bottle to his lips without smelling fresh gasoline. Somebody who drank from that bottle would probably also drink from the fuel tank of a string trimmer, thinking the manufacturer was thoughtful to attach a canteen for thirsty gardeners. |
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E Z Peaces wrote:
sip Somebody who drank from that bottle would probably also drink from the fuel tank of a string trimmer, thinking the manufacturer was thoughtful to attach a canteen for thirsty gardeners. This is quite frightening. I am writing my congressman right now, demanding that legislation be passed requiring all small engines be clearly labeled: "DANGER! DO NOT DRINK FROM FUEL TANK!" I hope to heck I'm not too late. -- PB "I suspect you're an arrogant little ****ant who grew up in the Red Bull generation." - CJW |
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On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob wrote:
All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob There are 96 teaspoons to a cup measure. Two heaping teaspoons per pint gives you roughly a 50/1 mix or one teaspoon per 8 oz. cup. Get a cup and teaspoon kitchen measure and keep them in a plastic bag in the garage just for this purpose. Two cups fill my weed eater or small chain saw. HTH |
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On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:21:16 -0400, RLM wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob wrote: All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob There are 96 teaspoons to a cup measure. Two heaping teaspoons per pint gives you roughly a 50/1 mix or one teaspoon per 8 oz. cup. Get a cup and teaspoon kitchen measure and keep them in a plastic bag in the garage just for this purpose. Two cups fill my weed eater or small chain saw. HTH Heaping? |
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On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:45:29 -0400, salty wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:21:16 -0400, RLM wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob wrote: All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob There are 96 teaspoons to a cup measure. Two heaping teaspoons per pint gives you roughly a 50/1 mix or one teaspoon per 8 oz. cup. Get a cup and teaspoon kitchen measure and keep them in a plastic bag in the garage just for this purpose. Two cups fill my weed eater or small chain saw. HTH Heaping? FULL! |
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RLM wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:45:29 -0400, salty wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:21:16 -0400, RLM wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob wrote: All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob There are 96 teaspoons to a cup measure. Two heaping teaspoons per pint gives you roughly a 50/1 mix or one teaspoon per 8 oz. cup. Get a cup and teaspoon kitchen measure and keep them in a plastic bag in the garage just for this purpose. Two cups fill my weed eater or small chain saw. HTH Heaping? FULL! 96 to a cup measure? I went to milliliters to avoid such mixups. I mix up in a small soda bottle because it's foolproof to get the oil fully mixed, it's dandy to pour from, and I can save anything that won't fit in the tank. |
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E Z Peaces wrote:
RLM wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 06:45:29 -0400, salty wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 04:21:16 -0400, RLM wrote: On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 01:05:19 -0500, zxcvbob wrote: All the gasoline here, regardless of grade, is E-10 gasahol. It doesn't last as long in storage as 100% gasoline. So for 2-cycle fuel (which I don't use a lot of) I've started using a shotglass when I mix it. The shotglass is graduated at .5, 1.0, and 1.5 ounces. I mix 1.5 ounces of good quality 2-cycle oil with .55 gallons of 89 octane gasoline for a 50:1 mix (it's just a little rich.) I don't add any Stabil, but when it's 2 or 3 months old I pour whatever is left in the 2-cycle gas can into my truck. Then I mix a fresh batch next time I need some. I got tired of mixing up a whole gallon at a time and having it go stale. Then I used it anyway, and it would eventually gum up my carburetors. I'm currently using Castrol (or maybe it's Penzoil) 100:1 rated TC oil in a quart bottle. When that runs out, I may switch to QuickSilver PWC (from Mercury Marine) synthetic oil -- the TC stuff, not TC-W3. Now if I could just come up with a good method of remembering when I last filled all my gas cans, so I know how old the gasoline is. (do you think a blackboard in the garage would work?) I use Stabil in the 6-gallon cans for the generator, and dump them in the truck and refill about twice a year. It's the little cans that I can't keep track of. BTW, I buy one 2-gallon can of 91+ octane Premium gasoline in the spring for the first tank or two of gas in the mower and tiller (etc.) They seem to start easier that way. When that can is empty, I switch to Regular for the rest of the season. By then they are either running good, or they are not going to run good 'til I get them tuned-up. Bob There are 96 teaspoons to a cup measure. Two heaping teaspoons per pint gives you roughly a 50/1 mix or one teaspoon per 8 oz. cup. Get a cup and teaspoon kitchen measure and keep them in a plastic bag in the garage just for this purpose. Two cups fill my weed eater or small chain saw. HTH Heaping? FULL! 96 to a cup measure? I went to milliliters to avoid such mixups. I mix up in a small soda bottle because it's foolproof to get the oil fully mixed, it's dandy to pour from, and I can save anything that won't fit in the tank. I tried it this weekend. 500ml water bottle full of StaBil'ized gasoline, plus 10ml of Castrol 2-cycle oil measured with an old syringe. It was just enough to fill the tank of my Echo weedcutter. (I didn't know it had such a large tank.) I could probably mix the fuel directly in the tank now that I know that, but it's a lot easier to pour from a small bottle than from a 6 gallon gas can. I don't know how long the syringe is gonna last. The oil may dissolve or swell the rubber plunger and ruin it. Bob |
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zxcvbob wrote:
E Z Peaces wrote: 96 to a cup measure? I went to milliliters to avoid such mixups. I mix up in a small soda bottle because it's foolproof to get the oil fully mixed, it's dandy to pour from, and I can save anything that won't fit in the tank. I tried it this weekend. 500ml water bottle full of StaBil'ized gasoline, plus 10ml of Castrol 2-cycle oil measured with an old syringe. It was just enough to fill the tank of my Echo weedcutter. (I didn't know it had such a large tank.) I could probably mix the fuel directly in the tank now that I know that, but it's a lot easier to pour from a small bottle than from a 6 gallon gas can. I don't know how long the syringe is gonna last. The oil may dissolve or swell the rubber plunger and ruin it. Bob On the farm, where I did a lot of sawing and string trimming, I'd mix a liter at a time. I used a piston syringe with a long tube, intended to inject medicine down the throat of a lamb. As I recall, the o ring went bad in a year or so. The tube would reach to the bottom of an oil bottle. I used it with a turkey baster, which lasted several years. Eventually the bulb cracked, not from oil but from air. I replaced the baster. With age, the tube shrank, which meant it took longer to draw the required amount of oil, especially in cold weather. I should have replaced the tube with clear 1/4" tubing just long enough to reach the bottom of a bottle. Now that I use a smaller soda bottle, I use a cheap plunger syringe. Some cheap syringes may be impervious to oil. At a store the other day I saw cheap bulb syringes intended to measure a dose of medicine. |
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zxcvbob wrote:
I could probably mix the fuel directly in the tank now that I know that, but it's a lot easier to pour from a small bottle than from a 6 gallon gas can. You've got me thinking about using a soda bottle to transfer gas from an approved can to my 4-cycle push mower. If I run out 200 yards from the garage, that's half a mile of walking to fetch and return the gas can, and I'm likely to spill some when I fill the tank. Topping off before going out could reduce such occurrences, but topping off from an approved can invites spilling. Besides, if I have to tip the mower on the side, less gas in the tank means less chance of leaking from the cap or through the carburetor. In storage, less gas in the tank means less to lose by seepage, possibly into the crankcase. In long-term storage, an empty tank and carburetor are probably better than Stabil. If I had to fetch a liter of gas for my mower, using a soda bottle could mean no spilling, from the can to the bottle or from the bottle to the mower. It could cut my walking in half because I could use a cord to hang the empty bottle from the handle. If I started out with a full soda bottle (or two) hanging from the crossbar on the handle, I would never have to top off the tank because I'd have a visible reserve. No more hassle if I have to tip the mower on its side. If I didn't want the bottle hanging as I mowed, I untie it at the work site. This could even make it practical to run the mower dry before putting it away. Unused gas could be poured back into the approved container. |
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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 19:48:28 -0400, E Z Peaces
wrote: zxcvbob wrote: E Z Peaces wrote: 96 to a cup measure? I went to milliliters to avoid such mixups. I mix up in a small soda bottle because it's foolproof to get the oil fully mixed, it's dandy to pour from, and I can save anything that won't fit in the tank. I tried it this weekend. 500ml water bottle full of StaBil'ized gasoline, plus 10ml of Castrol 2-cycle oil measured with an old syringe. It was just enough to fill the tank of my Echo weedcutter. (I didn't know it had such a large tank.) I could probably mix the fuel directly in the tank now that I know that, but it's a lot easier to pour from a small bottle than from a 6 gallon gas can. I don't know how long the syringe is gonna last. The oil may dissolve or swell the rubber plunger and ruin it. Bob On the farm, where I did a lot of sawing and string trimming, I'd mix a liter at a time. I used a piston syringe with a long tube, intended to inject medicine down the throat of a lamb. As I recall, the o ring went bad in a year or so. The tube would reach to the bottom of an oil bottle. I used it with a turkey baster, which lasted several years. Eventually the bulb cracked, not from oil but from air. I replaced the baster. With age, the tube shrank, which meant it took longer to draw the required amount of oil, especially in cold weather. I should have replaced the tube with clear 1/4" tubing just long enough to reach the bottom of a bottle. Now that I use a smaller soda bottle, I use a cheap plunger syringe. Some cheap syringes may be impervious to oil. At a store the other day I saw cheap bulb syringes intended to measure a dose of medicine. Walmart sells a large syringe made specifically for mixing oil with gas. I think it's less than $5. |
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Using food containers for gasoline is risky. No matter how
close you watch, some ignorant person will think it's food. I'd prefer something like a used paint thinner can. Painted red, of course. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "E Z Peaces" wrote in message ... zxcvbob wrote: I could probably mix the fuel directly in the tank now that I know that, but it's a lot easier to pour from a small bottle than from a 6 gallon gas can. You've got me thinking about using a soda bottle to transfer gas from an approved can to my 4-cycle push mower. If I run out 200 yards from the garage, that's half a mile of walking to fetch and return the gas can, and I'm likely to spill some when I fill the tank. Topping off before going out could reduce such occurrences, but topping off from an approved can invites spilling. Besides, if I have to tip the mower on the side, less gas in the tank means less chance of leaking from the cap or through the carburetor. In storage, less gas in the tank means less to lose by seepage, possibly into the crankcase. In long-term storage, an empty tank and carburetor are probably better than Stabil. If I had to fetch a liter of gas for my mower, using a soda bottle could mean no spilling, from the can to the bottle or from the bottle to the mower. It could cut my walking in half because I could use a cord to hang the empty bottle from the handle. If I started out with a full soda bottle (or two) hanging from the crossbar on the handle, I would never have to top off the tank because I'd have a visible reserve. No more hassle if I have to tip the mower on its side. If I didn't want the bottle hanging as I mowed, I untie it at the work site. This could even make it practical to run the mower dry before putting it away. Unused gas could be poured back into the approved container. |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
Using food containers for gasoline is risky. No matter how close you watch, some ignorant person will think it's food. I'd prefer something like a used paint thinner can. Painted red, of course. My paint thinner comes in a plastic gallon jug like antifreeze. For that much gas, I'd rather use an approved container. A paint-thinner can could get knocked over, and the cardboard cap seals I've seen aren't reliable. I don't know how well that kind of plastic would stand up to gasoline. I'd hate one day to mix gasoline with paint by mistake. To transfer gas from an approved can to a lawn mower, the size and opacity of a paint-thinner can could lead to spills. If I used a soda bottle for a visible fuel reserve for a 4-cycle mower, I'd remove the label and write all over the bottle with magic marker. I'd pour the gas back into the approved can when I finished mowing. |
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On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:36:07 -0400, BQ340 wrote:
There are 96 teaspoons to a cup measure. HTH Where are you? 1 US cup = 48 US teaspoons.... Sorry, my mistake, I had looked this up before and posted it right and didn't this time. 96 teaspoons per pint. 48 per cup. |
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I only want to mix a cup of gas at 40:1 how much oil will it take
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On 05/05/2017 12:03 PM, Frank wrote:
On 5/5/2017 12:54 PM, wrote: I only want to mix a cup of gas at 40:1 how much oil will it take One fortieth of a cup. Actually a teaspoon is 1:48 of a cup if that helps. 6 ml is almost (5.9) spot on...the other way it's 1.2 tsp to guesstimate. -- |
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On 5/5/2017 1:08 PM, Unquestionably Confused wrote:
On 5/5/2017 11:54 AM, wrote: I only want to mix a cup of gas at 40:1 how much oil will it take 0.2 ounces of oil. Roughly 6 cc's if you happen to have a syringe around or can get one. That's correct too. I used to work in a lab and have some old graduated cylinders for stuff like this. My wife has a measuring cup in both ounces and milliliters but graduations are not that fine. |
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