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I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge
in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. -- Ray |
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In article TvLLj.7$mG1.5@trndny08,
"Ray" wrote: I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. -- Ray Something *could* be done about it, by you. Since you claim to be a member of the group, you could start by reading some of the posts. The spam topic has been beaten to death in the last month or so. Here's a recap: Step 1: Killfile all googlegroups posts. Step 2: Enjoy the instantaneous, magical absence of all things spam. |
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"Ray" wrote
I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. I know. I now delete automatically all mail from @gmail and it helps tremedously. Sure there are a few valid posters caught in that, but I had an immediate 75% or so drop in spam. Most runs show a 1/3 of the posts are from @gmail. I still get the stupid stuff I havent figured out how to remove yet with my client (OE) but it's now bearable. One day I will upgrade clients but for now, I can work with this. |
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"Walter R." wrote: Indeed, alt.home repair has become dysfunctional. It is populated by persons with a home, with financial resources. Therefore, it has become an attractive target for every spammer on the globe. Obviously, the internet and the newsgroups were set up very poorly. Otherwise this kind of spamming would not be tolerated. I have resorted to meeting my needs at http://censorshipandtyrannyisgreat.net. It is moderated and has no spam. Registration is free. Then why are you still here with all of us tolerant losers, Walter? |
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"cshenk" wrote: "Ray" wrote I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. I know. I now delete automatically all mail from @gmail and it helps tremedously. Sure there are a few valid posters caught in that, but I had an immediate 75% or so drop in spam. Most runs show a 1/3 of the posts are from @gmail. I still get the stupid stuff I havent figured out how to remove yet with my client (OE) but it's now bearable. One day I will upgrade clients but for now, I can work with this. Sheesh. Don't filter gmail. That has nothing to do with usenet. Filter googlegroups instead. The fact that many googlegroups users also have gmail accounts has led you astray in your logic. |
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"Smitty Two" wrote
I still get the stupid stuff I havent figured out how to remove yet with my client (OE) but it's now bearable. One day I will upgrade clients but for now, I can work with this. Sheesh. Don't filter gmail. That has nothing to do with usenet. Filter googlegroups instead. The fact that many googlegroups users also have gmail accounts has led you astray in your logic. You cant filter googlegroups with OE. |
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"cshenk" wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote I still get the stupid stuff I havent figured out how to remove yet with my client (OE) but it's now bearable. One day I will upgrade clients but for now, I can work with this. Sheesh. Don't filter gmail. That has nothing to do with usenet. Filter googlegroups instead. The fact that many googlegroups users also have gmail accounts has led you astray in your logic. You cant filter googlegroups with OE. That's like saying you can't unclog your toilet with a lawnmower. So why not get the right tool for the job? This is ahr, after all -- isn't that what we're always advocating? |
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In article , "cshenk" wrote: "Smitty Two" wrote I still get the stupid stuff I havent figured out how to remove yet with my client (OE) but it's now bearable. One day I will upgrade clients but for now, I can work with this. Sheesh. Don't filter gmail. That has nothing to do with usenet. Filter googlegroups instead. The fact that many googlegroups users also have gmail accounts has led you astray in your logic. You cant filter googlegroups with OE. That's like saying you can't unclog your toilet with a lawnmower. So why not get the right tool for the job? This is ahr, after all -- isn't that what we're always advocating? Filtering @gmail.com is a very reasonable solution if you don't care about minimal collateral damage (which I don't since it cuts my spam by 80-90%) OE can be configured to ignore legitimate gmail users by adding specific rule exceptions. And gmail users can munge their address so that the @gmail.com filter overlooks them. It may be a less than elegant solution, and most @gmail.com spam DOES originate from google-groups, but I like OE (especially with OE Quote-Fix), I don't have to install a proxy and learn a whole new geek shorthand to configure it. -- Dave "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects." |
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Ray wrote:
I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. Go to Tools Message Rules News and create a new rule that deletes any messages from .jp, .cn, gmail.com, yahoo.com, and hotmail.com. I don't know if you see a lot of replica watch ads but I used to so I added watch and replica to the from rules as well. Note that these are all addresses, not subjects. I seldom see any crap these days... at least from spammers. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com |
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Ray wrote:
I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. Pornography? Damn. Now I'll have to check every one... |
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On Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:52:41 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote: Ray wrote: I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. Pornography? Damn. Now I'll have to check every one... Youporn.com I saw this link on Fox news twice. They must have interest in the company. Wiki even has an article. |
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![]() "cshenk" wrote in message ... "Smitty Two" wrote I still get the stupid stuff I havent figured out how to remove yet with my client (OE) but it's now bearable. One day I will upgrade clients but for now, I can work with this. Sheesh. Don't filter gmail. That has nothing to do with usenet. Filter googlegroups instead. The fact that many googlegroups users also have gmail accounts has led you astray in your logic. You cant filter googlegroups with OE. OE can be linked to a proxy newsreader such as NewsProxy (a free download). Set NewsProxy to your newsreader and put this line in the filter file: * drop Message-ID:*googlegroups* Set OE to connect to "localhost" and you should be good to go. |
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Walter R. wrote:
Is this what the OE filter should look like? Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the message is on alt.home.repair newsgroup and Where the From line contains '.jpn, .cn, gmail.com, yahoo.com, hotmail.com' or 'googlemail.com' and Where the message is from the news-server.san.rr.com account Delete it This setup does not seem to filter messages from gmail.com. What am I doing wrong? Here's my rule: Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the From line contains 'jewelry' or 'watch' or 'replica' or 'gmail.com' or 'yahoo.com' or 'hotmail.com' or '.jp' or '.cn' Delete it You've got the extra line: "and Where the message is from the news-server.san.rr.com account". Why do you need that? It's unnecessary as far as I can see and adds an additional condition which MUST be met in order to filter. My rule nukes most of the obvious sources of spam. To further clean house, you'll need to add NewsProxy to Outlook Express so you can nuke crossposted messages. That's where I really reduced the masses of spam to a trickle. The above rule got what squeaked by that. |
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![]() "Dave Bugg" wrote in message news:8MOLj.3$SR2.1@trndny03... Filtering @gmail.com is a very reasonable solution if you don't care about minimal collateral damage (which I don't since it cuts my spam by 80-90%) OE can be configured to ignore legitimate gmail users by adding specific rule exceptions. And gmail users can munge their address so that the @gmail.com filter overlooks them. It may be a less than elegant solution, and most @gmail.com spam DOES originate from google-groups, but I like OE (especially with OE Quote-Fix), I don't have to install a proxy and learn a whole new geek shorthand to configure it. Why do you need quote-fix if you don't get messages from google-groups? They seem to be the only problem I have with quotes working correctly. Oh well - you probably won't see this. |
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![]() "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message news ![]() Ray wrote: I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. Go to Tools Message Rules News and create a new rule that deletes any messages from .jp, .cn, gmail.com, yahoo.com, and hotmail.com. I don't know if you see a lot of replica watch ads but I used to so I added watch and replica to the from rules as well. Note that these are all addresses, not subjects. I seldom see any crap these days... at least from spammers. And you don't see the posts of many participants. |
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![]() "SteveB" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message news:TvLLj.7$mG1.5@trndny08... I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. -- Ray The ability of being able to do incredible things on computers does not seem to apply to ISPs filtering out crap from known spam sites, or even stop it when it is reported to abuse@wedontgivea**** . I rely on brain cells and the up and down arrows and the ignore button. Unfortunately, spam on usenet is pretty low priority for ISPs. Many don't even provide usenet anymore. |
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![]() "Ray" wrote in message news:TvLLj.7$mG1.5@trndny08... I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. -- Ray The ability of being able to do incredible things on computers does not seem to apply to ISPs filtering out crap from known spam sites, or even stop it when it is reported to abuse@wedontgivea**** . I rely on brain cells and the up and down arrows and the ignore button. Werks for me. Steve |
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![]() "Walter R." wrote in message ... Is this what the OE filter should look like? Apply this rule after the message arrives Where the message is on alt.home.repair newsgroup and Where the From line contains '.jpn, .cn, gmail.com, yahoo.com, hotmail.com' or 'googlemail.com' and Where the message is from the news-server.san.rr.com account Delete it This setup does not seem to filter messages from gmail.com. What am I doing wrong? -- Walter www.rationality.net - "Mortimer Schnerd, RN" mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com wrote in message news ![]() Ray wrote: I suppose I'm only adding to the problem by noting that there's a big surge in junk spam being posted on this newsgroup, including a lot of pornography. I don't suppose anything can be done about it, but it's a pity to see such a useful newsgroup being polluted. Go to Tools Message Rules News and create a new rule that deletes any messages from .jp, .cn, gmail.com, yahoo.com, and hotmail.com. I don't know if you see a lot of replica watch ads but I used to so I added watch and replica to the from rules as well. Note that these are all addresses, not subjects. I seldom see any crap these days... at least from spammers. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com I just did my OE with one filter using all the combinations above, and then did individual filters on each. Then returned to the newsgroup to find most gone, except googlemail.com, which I then added. Tools Message Rules News New check "Where from line includes people" box check "Delete it" box hit the highlighted "contains people" type gmail.com (or whatever, but just the last that identifies the domain) Add OK Steve |
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