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John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN
is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ... John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. ...Jim Thompson Not necessarily........ I know a lot of "democrats" who would be very opposed to that crap. Every party has its share of ass holes, just ask the republicans! |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:11:11 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Political suicide. But in reality, we need much bigger taxes on gas, in the country's strategic interest. That said, "global warming" is embraced so wildly by Democrats and european governments because it's the sweetest excuse in decades for taxation, control, business-bashing, and class warfare. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. Yup. There's still a chance they may blow the presidential election which, everything considered, would be a feat. John |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:45:18 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:11:11 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Political suicide. But in reality, we need much bigger taxes on gas, in the country's strategic interest. That said, "global warming" is embraced so wildly by Democrats and european governments because it's the sweetest excuse in decades for taxation, control, business-bashing, and class warfare. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. Yup. There's still a chance they may blow the presidential election which, everything considered, would be a feat. John Gotta give 'em credit for trying ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme, I mean social security going? He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take all the incentive out of the system. And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. And also, why should anyone own the house they bought. Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax. I like the "Fair Tax" Let people see the tax every time they buy an item, rather then have the nice IRS send them money (refund). Mike |
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Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars. It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though. Graham |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:45:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:
Yup. There's still a chance they may blow the presidential election which, everything considered, would be a feat. All they have to do in nominate Hillary. It's bad enough having a President who's in the pocket of the oil industry, but one who's a wholly-owned subsidiary of the insurance cartel could only be worse. |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ Real programmers don't draw flowcharts. Flowcharts are, after all, the illiterate's form of documentation. Cavemen drew flowcharts; look how much good it did them. |
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Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars. It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though. Graham Why are you complaining? 1 liter=1.38 euro. for us in in the Netherlands. 1 gallon = 3.785 liter = 5.22 euro = 7.21 U.S. dollars. Despite that we have 3% unemployment. what yours(on gas and employment?) |
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Sjouke Burry wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars. It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though. Graham Why are you complaining? I'm not complaining. Just making an observation. 1 liter=1.38 euro. for us in in the Netherlands. 1 gallon = 3.785 liter = 5.22 euro = 7.21 U.S. dollars. Despite that we have 3% unemployment. what yours(on gas and employment?) UK unemployment seems to be about 5.5% currently. I expect it's all those jobs we exported to India and China etc. 1 litre of petrol as we call it cost me 91p today. That's $1.84 $6.95 per US gallon. And still no shortage of cars on the road, but they don't have huge engine sizes like US cars wastefully do. Graham |
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? How do you get a deduction on 0% interest? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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"Sjouke Burry" wrote in message ... Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars. It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though. Graham Why are you complaining? 1 liter=1.38 euro. for us in in the Netherlands. 1 gallon = 3.785 liter = 5.22 euro = 7.21 U.S. dollars. Despite that we have 3% unemployment. what yours(on gas and employment?) How big Is Netherlands? Hmm... I guess I better do the work. The Area is 16k mi^2. I live in Texas with an area of 250k mi^2. What this means is that families and work are more spread out and hence it takes more gas on average for an individual to do the same things that it costs people in smaller countries. So you can compare your prices with ours all you want but its an invalid comparsion. (essentially what it means is we paid as much as you then many people couldn't even afford to go to work much less do much of anything else). Its true that many americans waste a lot of gas but the majority of gas used in the industry. We also have developed a larger infrastructure to support the lower prices. (think of supply and demand) There are also many other reasons for lower gas prices as it supports growth. If you are going to compare our gas prices with yours then at least do it intelligently. Its much more complicated than you make it out to be. |
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mike wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme, I mean social security going? He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take all the incentive out of the system. And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. And also, why should anyone own the house they bought. Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax. I like the "Fair Tax" Let people see the tax every time they buy an item, rather then have the nice IRS send them money (refund). Mike |
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Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by government entities. It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax deductions in that case. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. ...Jim Thompson You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like Phoenix, Arizona, on the fringe of civilized society, will do that to people. Keep drinking the Kool Aid. |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:00:41 -0400, Fred Bloggs
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by government entities. Oh, really? I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Is that not "proportionate", or do you think you have a right to STEAL even more? It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax deductions in that case. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. ...Jim Thompson You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like Phoenix, Arizona, It REALLY is a hell hole. Everyone is advised to stay well away from here ;-) on the fringe of civilized society, will do that to people. Keep drinking the Kool Aid. You ARE really sicko, Fred. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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"Robert Baer" wrote in message
... mike wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme, I mean social security going? He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take all the incentive out of the system. And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. And also, why should anyone own the house they bought. Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax. I like the "Fair Tax" Let people see the tax every time they buy an item, rather then have the nice IRS send them money (refund). Mike Mike, I don't know where you're from or how things are conducted there - but I agree with one reply to your post - the "illegals" have all handed to them - and HERE - there IS a "property" tax. It is billed not by the state - but the county. You don't pay it - you lose your home. Sheriffs sales are running amuck. |
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"Radiosrfun" wrote in message ... "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... mike wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme, I mean social security going? He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take all the incentive out of the system. And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. And also, why should anyone own the house they bought. Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax. I like the "Fair Tax" Let people see the tax every time they buy an item, rather then have the nice IRS send them money (refund). Mike Mike, I don't know where you're from or how things are conducted there - but I agree with one reply to your post - the "illegals" have all handed to them - and HERE - there IS a "property" tax. It is billed not by the state - but the county. You don't pay it - you lose your home. Sheriffs sales are running amuck. You're correct, the county levies the property tax. Did I mention taxes on your phone bill, land line and cell phone, taxes on your cable tv bill. Oh, and there are already plenty of taxes on gasoline, state and federal. Off my rant now, Mike |
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On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:46:06 -0700, Robert Baer wrote:
mike wrote: And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. That's not the fault of the wetbacks - it's the fault of the socialism. Thanks, Rich |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? How do you get a deduction on 0% interest? Rich folks will restructure their finances so as to preserve the tax benefits. Poor folks can't afford 3000 sq foot houses, so this will bite the middle class the hardest. The Democrats support is split between the poor and the wealthy, so they don't give a crap about the folks in the middle anyway. -- Paul Hovnanian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The blinking cursor writes; and having writ, blinks on. |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:33:44 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? How do you get a deduction on 0% interest? Rich folks will restructure their finances so as to preserve the tax benefits. Poor folks can't afford 3000 sq foot houses, so this will bite the middle class the hardest. The Democrats support is split between the poor and the wealthy, so they don't give a crap about the folks in the middle anyway. So why does the "middle" vote Democrat? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Jim Thompson wrote: I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Bwahahahahahaaa ! Land of the Fee my ass ! There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK. Graham |
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"Fred Bloggs" skrev i en meddelelse ... Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames. Yes? And: Why is this a bad thing? |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Bwahahahahahaaa ! Land of the Fee my ass ! There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK. Graham Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany -- "it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:09:33 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Bwahahahahahaaa ! Land of the Fee my ass ! There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK. Graham Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Come on, Spehro, you know the UK is perfect... why do you think Eeyore brays all the time ?:-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | | | E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat | | http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave |
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Spehro Pefhany wrote: Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Bwahahahahahaaa ! Land of the Fee my ass ! There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK. Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then? They pay for local services. There is at least a direct relationship. Who supplies the street cleaners, rubbish collection and the like in the USA and how do you pay for it ? Graham |
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Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:46:06 -0700, Robert Baer wrote: mike wrote: And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. That's not the fault of the wetbacks - it's the fault of the socialism. Thanks, Rich Started with "good" old FDR.. |
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:47:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
So why does the "middle" vote Democrat? Well, in my own case, in the next election, it's the only meaningful protest against the slide into facism. Don't forget that Hitler was *elected.* I used to vote Libertarian, but in the American winner-take-all system, that amounts to a wasted vote. Of course, given the present state of the Democratic party, it amounts to "Would you rather be hanged or shot?" |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:33:44 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? How do you get a deduction on 0% interest? Rich folks will restructure their finances so as to preserve the tax benefits. Poor folks can't afford 3000 sq foot houses, so this will bite the middle class the hardest. The Democrats support is split between the poor and the wealthy, so they don't give a crap about the folks in the middle anyway. So why does the "middle" vote Democrat? Because the GOP frightened them off by getting into bed (or more accurately, a restroom stall) with the wacko conservatives. The GOP used to be the sane party when it had a more libertarian philosophy. -- Paul Hovnanian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The blinking cursor writes; and having writ, blinks on. |
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Meat Plow wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Bwahahahahahaaa ! Land of the Fee my ass ! There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK. Graham Isn't there a tax on a television set in the UK? I think they call it the luxury tax, that just about covers everything in the UK. I think even eating over there is a luxury! But then again, I could have my countries mixed up. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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amdx wrote:
"Radiosrfun" wrote in message ... "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... mike wrote: "Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme, I mean social security going? He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take all the incentive out of the system. And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. And also, why should anyone own the house they bought. Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax. I like the "Fair Tax" Let people see the tax every time they buy an item, rather then have the nice IRS send them money (refund). Mike Mike, I don't know where you're from or how things are conducted there - but I agree with one reply to your post - the "illegals" have all handed to them - and HERE - there IS a "property" tax. It is billed not by the state - but the county. You don't pay it - you lose your home. Sheriffs sales are running amuck. You're correct, the county levies the property tax. Did I mention taxes on your phone bill, land line and cell phone, taxes on your cable tv bill. Oh, and there are already plenty of taxes on gasoline, state and federal. Off my rant now, Mike wait a minute, our local government is trying to push through side walk tax. if it goes through, every resident in this city will be getting a tax bill for side walk maintenance except those that are the on local local assistant programs. ( and they're many!) This came up in lo of many residents here now walking and using bicycle's and not having that extra car any more. Also, they are trying to push through a bill to force any one that purchases a bicycle of 24" frame or larger, or get one of those scooters that are under 50 CC that requires no registration to pay a yearly USE tax. Don't that just bite the bullet. We'll see just how far that goes. the biggest problem we have in this area is far to many free programs given to those that have absolutely nothing wrong with them. Not only that. A good many free loaders have moved out from other remote locations to take advantage of the free programs this city gives out and thus has been forcing those that work and own property to sell (if they can) and get out. At the town meetings, they are all up in arms over tax paying residents leaving town. Their solution? More taxes and only for those that they don't want to leave.! real funny isn't it. -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? How do you get a deduction on 0% interest? Is that anything like 0V +/- 2% -- "I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken" Real Programmers Do things like this. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5 |
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Jamie wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote: "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage? How do you get a deduction on 0% interest? Is that anything like 0V +/- 2% Sigh. No, it means that *every* penny I pay on my mortgage is to repay the principal. What part of a ZERO interest rate don't you get? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:00:41 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by government entities. Oh, really? I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Is that not "proportionate", or do you think you have a right to STEAL even more? It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax deductions in that case. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. ...Jim Thompson You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like Phoenix, Arizona, It REALLY is a hell hole. Everyone is advised to stay well away from here ;-) on the fringe of civilized society, will do that to people. Keep drinking the Kool Aid. You ARE really sicko, Fred. Fred is jealous because he lives on the fringe of uncivilized society, so all he gets to drink is 'recycled' Kool Aid. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:09:33 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Bwahahahahahaaa ! Land of the Fee my ass ! There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK. Graham Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then? Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Come on, Spehro, you know the UK is perfect... why do you think Eeyore brays all the time ?:-) Of course Eeyore doesn't pay taxes. He lives under a bridge, and steals internet access to brag about it. Everyone knows there is no personal property tax on public structures. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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Eeyore wrote:
Spehro Pefhany wrote: Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then? They pay for local services. There is at least a direct relationship. Who supplies the street cleaners, rubbish collection and the like in the USA and how do you pay for it ? Street cleaners? You Brit moroons still haven't learned to put trash in a trashcan? Around here, you have the coice of contracing a trash hauler, or take it to the transfer station, a couple miles away. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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The Nazi party never had a majority. A large minority yes, but not a
majority. More important was Hitler's appointment as chencellor. Tim -- Deep Fryer: A very philosophical monk. Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms "Stephen J. Rush" wrote in message . .. On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:47:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: So why does the "middle" vote Democrat? Well, in my own case, in the next election, it's the only meaningful protest against the slide into facism. Don't forget that Hitler was *elected.* I used to vote Libertarian, but in the American winner-take-all system, that amounts to a wasted vote. Of course, given the present state of the Democratic party, it amounts to "Would you rather be hanged or shot?" |
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"Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:46:06 -0700, Robert Baer wrote: mike wrote: And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal aliens into the free program. ** What do you mean, "might as well"?? Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. That's not the fault of the wetbacks - it's the fault of the socialism. Thanks, Rich Started with "good" old FDR.. A good summary of the 1936 election, FDR, and voting the largese to ourselves can be seen at; http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis.asp I found it interesting. Mike |
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Jim Thompson wrote: On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:00:41 -0400, Fred Bloggs wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline. Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames. He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft. Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by government entities. Oh, really? I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Is that not "proportionate", or do you think you have a right to STEAL even more? STEAL is the appropriate word to use when referring to Republican party controlled government. Now if you had a more humane and progressive Democrat control, they are known to roll off property taxes for the elderly. It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax deductions in that case. Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies. ...Jim Thompson You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like Phoenix, Arizona, It REALLY is a hell hole. Everyone is advised to stay well away from here ;-) You know it, visiting that place was like dying and going to hell. Maybe I missed something, but the whole socio-cultural aura seemed to be somewhere in the range of vacuous to non-existent, and the people were so...err...uncomplicated:-) |
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Jamie wrote: wait a minute, our local government is trying to push through side walk tax. if it goes through, every resident in this city will be getting a tax bill for side walk maintenance except those that are the on local local assistant programs. ( and they're many!) Some of the earliest documents surviving from colonial America are the Book(s) of Roads, some dating back nearly 400 years. These were records of road maintenance responsibility assigned to various land owners by whose property the roads passed. The labor was not compensated, it was considered a civic responsibility at the time. |
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Robert Baer wrote: Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no insurance or license, etc ad nauseum. Every child regardless of national origin, creed, color, race, religious belief, parental status, legal status, pedigree, or any other damned thing, has a RIGHT to medical care, education, and any other damned thing to put them on equal footing with any other child in getting a start on life. It is beyond monstrous to deny them this. |
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