John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

...Jim Thompson
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

...Jim Thompson

Not necessarily........ I know a lot of "democrats" who would be very
opposed to that crap. Every party has its share of ass holes, just ask the
republicans!

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:11:11 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Political suicide. But in reality, we need much bigger taxes on gas,
in the country's strategic interest.

That said, "global warming" is embraced so wildly by Democrats and
european governments because it's the sweetest excuse in decades for
taxation, control, business-bashing, and class warfare.


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

Yup. There's still a chance they may blow the presidential election
which, everything considered, would be a feat.

John

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:45:18 -0700, John Larkin
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:11:11 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Political suicide. But in reality, we need much bigger taxes on gas,
in the country's strategic interest.

That said, "global warming" is embraced so wildly by Democrats and
european governments because it's the sweetest excuse in decades for
taxation, control, business-bashing, and class warfare.


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

Yup. There's still a chance they may blow the presidential election
which, everything considered, would be a feat.

John

Gotta give 'em credit for trying ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme,
I mean social security going?

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take
all the incentive out of the system.

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw
illegal aliens into the free program.

And also, why should anyone own the house they bought.
Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax.

I like the "Fair Tax"
Let people see the tax every time they buy
an item,
rather then have the nice IRS send them
money (refund).
Mike

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars.

It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though.

Graham

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:45:18 -0700, John Larkin wrote:


Yup. There's still a chance they may blow the presidential election
which, everything considered, would be a feat.

All they have to do in nominate Hillary. It's bad enough having a
President who's in the pocket of the oil industry, but one who's a
wholly-owned subsidiary of the insurance cartel could only be worse.

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?

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much good it did them.

Eeyore wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars.

It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though.

Graham

Why are you complaining?
1 liter=1.38 euro. for us in in the Netherlands.
1 gallon = 3.785 liter = 5.22 euro = 7.21 U.S. dollars.

Despite that we have 3% unemployment.
what yours(on gas and employment?)

Sjouke Burry wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars.

It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect though.

Graham

Why are you complaining?

I'm not complaining. Just making an observation.


1 liter=1.38 euro. for us in in the Netherlands.
1 gallon = 3.785 liter = 5.22 euro = 7.21 U.S. dollars.

Despite that we have 3% unemployment.
what yours(on gas and employment?)

UK unemployment seems to be about 5.5% currently. I expect it's all those jobs
we exported to India and China etc.

1 litre of petrol as we call it cost me 91p today. That's $1.84 $6.95 per US
gallon. And still no shortage of cars on the road, but they don't have huge
engine sizes like US cars wastefully do.

Graham

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?


How do you get a deduction on 0% interest?


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prove it.
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"Sjouke Burry" wrote in message
...
Eeyore wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

It's the only way to get people to drive more fuel efficient cars.

It needs to be more like $3 a gallon to have any meaningful effect
though.

Graham

Why are you complaining?
1 liter=1.38 euro. for us in in the Netherlands.
1 gallon = 3.785 liter = 5.22 euro = 7.21 U.S. dollars.

Despite that we have 3% unemployment.
what yours(on gas and employment?)

How big Is Netherlands?

Hmm... I guess I better do the work.

The Area is 16k mi^2. I live in Texas with an area of 250k mi^2.

What this means is that families and work are more spread out and hence it
takes more gas on average for an individual to do the same things that it
costs people in smaller countries.

So you can compare your prices with ours all you want but its an invalid
comparsion. (essentially what it means is we paid as much as you then many
people couldn't even afford to go to work much less do much of anything
else).

Its true that many americans waste a lot of gas but the majority of gas used
in the industry. We also have developed a larger infrastructure to support
the lower prices. (think of supply and demand) There are also many other
reasons for lower gas prices as it supports growth.

If you are going to compare our gas prices with yours then at least do it
intelligently. Its much more complicated than you make it out to be.

mike wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.


Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme,
I mean social security going?


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.


Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take
all the incentive out of the system.

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw
illegal aliens into the free program.
** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.


And also, why should anyone own the house they bought.
Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax.

I like the "Fair Tax"
Let people see the tax every time they buy
an item,
rather then have the nice IRS send them
money (refund).
Mike

Jim Thompson wrote:
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US
military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the
middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws
from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames.


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a
proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by
government entities. It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax
deductions in that case.


Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

...Jim Thompson

You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like
Phoenix, Arizona, on the fringe of civilized society, will do that to
people. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:00:41 -0400, Fred Bloggs
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US
military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the
middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws
from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames.


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a
proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by
government entities.

Oh, really? I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Is that not
"proportionate", or do you think you have a right to STEAL even more?

It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax
deductions in that case.


Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

...Jim Thompson

You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like
Phoenix, Arizona,

It REALLY is a hell hole. Everyone is advised to stay well away from
here ;-)

on the fringe of civilized society, will do that to
people. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

You ARE really sicko, Fred.

...Jim Thompson
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"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
mike wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.


Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme,
I mean social security going?


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.


Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take
all the incentive out of the system.

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw
illegal aliens into the free program.
** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.


And also, why should anyone own the house they bought.
Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax.

I like the "Fair Tax"
Let people see the tax every time they
buy an item,
rather then have the nice IRS send them
money (refund).
Mike


Mike, I don't know where you're from or how things are conducted there - but
I agree with one reply to your post - the "illegals" have all handed to
them - and HERE - there IS a "property" tax. It is billed not by the state -
but the county. You don't pay it - you lose your home. Sheriffs sales are
running amuck.

"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
...
"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
mike wrote:
"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.


Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme,
I mean social security going?


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.


Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take
all the incentive out of the system.

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw
illegal aliens into the free program.
** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.


And also, why should anyone own the house they bought.
Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax.

I like the "Fair Tax"
Let people see the tax every time they
buy an item,
rather then have the nice IRS send them
money (refund).
Mike


Mike, I don't know where you're from or how things are conducted there -
but I agree with one reply to your post - the "illegals" have all handed
to them - and HERE - there IS a "property" tax. It is billed not by the
state - but the county. You don't pay it - you lose your home. Sheriffs
sales are running amuck.

You're correct, the county levies the property tax.
Did I mention taxes on your phone bill, land line and cell phone, taxes on
your cable tv bill.
Oh, and there are already plenty of taxes on gasoline, state and federal.

Off my rant now,
Mike

On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:46:06 -0700, Robert Baer wrote:
mike wrote:

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal
aliens into the free program.
** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.


That's not the fault of the wetbacks - it's the fault of the socialism.

Thanks,
Rich

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?

How do you get a deduction on 0% interest?

Rich folks will restructure their finances so as to preserve the tax
benefits. Poor folks can't afford 3000 sq foot houses, so this will bite
the middle class the hardest. The Democrats support is split between the
poor and the wealthy, so they don't give a crap about the folks in the
middle anyway.

--
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:33:44 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?

How do you get a deduction on 0% interest?

Rich folks will restructure their finances so as to preserve the tax
benefits. Poor folks can't afford 3000 sq foot houses, so this will bite
the middle class the hardest. The Democrats support is split between the
poor and the wealthy, so they don't give a crap about the folks in the
middle anyway.

So why does the "middle" vote Democrat?

...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson wrote:

I pay around $8K per year in property taxes.

Bwahahahahahaaa !

Land of the Fee my ass !

There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK.

Graham

"Fred Bloggs" skrev i en meddelelse
...


Jim Thompson wrote:
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US
military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the middle
east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws from Iraq,
in failure, the whole region is going up in flames.

Yes? And: Why is this a bad thing?

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:

I pay around $8K per year in property taxes.

Bwahahahahahaaa !

Land of the Fee my ass !

There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK.

Graham

Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then?

Best regards,
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On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:09:33 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:

I pay around $8K per year in property taxes.

Bwahahahahahaaa !

Land of the Fee my ass !

There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK.

Graham

Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Come on, Spehro, you know the UK is perfect... why do you think Eeyore
brays all the time ?:-)

...Jim Thompson
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America: Land of the Free, Because of the Brave

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

I pay around $8K per year in property taxes.

Bwahahahahahaaa !

Land of the Fee my ass !

There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK.


Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then?

They pay for local services. There is at least a direct relationship.

Who supplies the street cleaners, rubbish collection and the like in the USA and
how do you pay for it ?

Graham

Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:46:06 -0700, Robert Baer wrote:

mike wrote:

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal
aliens into the free program.

** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.



That's not the fault of the wetbacks - it's the fault of the socialism.

Thanks,
Rich

Started with "good" old FDR..

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:47:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

So why does the "middle" vote Democrat?

Well, in my own case, in the next election, it's the only meaningful
protest against the slide into facism. Don't forget that Hitler was
*elected.* I used to vote Libertarian, but in the American winner-take-all
system, that amounts to a wasted vote. Of course, given the present state
of the Democratic party, it amounts to "Would you rather be hanged or shot?"

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:33:44 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?

How do you get a deduction on 0% interest?

Rich folks will restructure their finances so as to preserve the tax
benefits. Poor folks can't afford 3000 sq foot houses, so this will bite
the middle class the hardest. The Democrats support is split between the
poor and the wealthy, so they don't give a crap about the folks in the
middle anyway.

So why does the "middle" vote Democrat?

Because the GOP frightened them off by getting into bed (or more
accurately, a restroom stall) with the wacko conservatives. The GOP used
to be the sane party when it had a more libertarian philosophy.

--
Paul Hovnanian
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Meat Plow wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:


I pay around $8K per year in property taxes.

Bwahahahahahaaa !

Land of the Fee my ass !

There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK.

Graham


Isn't there a tax on a television set in the UK?

I think they call it the luxury tax, that just about
covers everything in the UK. I think even eating over
there is a luxury!

But then again, I could have my countries mixed up.


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amdx wrote:

"Radiosrfun" wrote in message
...

"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...

mike wrote:

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
message ...


John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.


Jim, how else do you propose to keep the ponze scheme,
I mean social security going?



He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.


Oh, those damn rich people anyway, ;-) let's see if we can take
all the incentive out of the system.

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw
illegal aliens into the free program.

** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.


And also, why should anyone own the house they bought.
Let's have the state send them a bill every year. Call it property tax.

I like the "Fair Tax"
Let people see the tax every time they
buy an item,
rather then have the nice IRS send them
money (refund).
Mike


Mike, I don't know where you're from or how things are conducted there -
but I agree with one reply to your post - the "illegals" have all handed
to them - and HERE - there IS a "property" tax. It is billed not by the
state - but the county. You don't pay it - you lose your home. Sheriffs
sales are running amuck.


You're correct, the county levies the property tax.
Did I mention taxes on your phone bill, land line and cell phone, taxes on
your cable tv bill.
Oh, and there are already plenty of taxes on gasoline, state and federal.

Off my rant now,
Mike



wait a minute, our local government is trying to push through side walk
tax. if it goes through, every resident in this city will be getting a
tax bill for side walk maintenance except those that are the on local
local assistant programs. ( and they're many!)

This came up in lo of many residents here now walking and using
bicycle's and not having that extra car any more.

Also, they are trying to push through a bill to force any one that
purchases a bicycle of 24" frame or larger, or get one of those
scooters that are under 50 CC that requires no registration to pay a
yearly USE tax.
Don't that just bite the bullet. We'll see just how far that goes.
the biggest problem we have in this area is far to many free programs
given to those that have absolutely nothing wrong with them. Not only
that. A good many free loaders have moved out from other remote
locations to take advantage of the free programs this city gives out and
thus has been forcing those that work and own property to sell (if they
can) and get out.
At the town meetings, they are all up in arms over tax paying
residents leaving town. Their solution? More taxes and only for those
that they don't want to leave.! real funny isn't it.


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Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?



How do you get a deduction on 0% interest?


Is that anything like

0V +/- 2%

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Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Mortgage? What is this thing you speak of called mortgage?



How do you get a deduction on 0% interest?


Is that anything like

0V +/- 2%


Sigh. No, it means that *every* penny I pay on my mortgage is to
repay the principal. What part of a ZERO interest rate don't you get?



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prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:00:41 -0400, Fred Bloggs
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:
John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US
military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the
middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws
from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames.


He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a
proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by
government entities.

Oh, really? I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Is that not
"proportionate", or do you think you have a right to STEAL even more?

It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax
deductions in that case.


Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

...Jim Thompson

You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like
Phoenix, Arizona,

It REALLY is a hell hole. Everyone is advised to stay well away from
here ;-)

on the fringe of civilized society, will do that to
people. Keep drinking the Kool Aid.

You ARE really sicko, Fred.


Fred is jealous because he lives on the fringe of uncivilized
society, so all he gets to drink is 'recycled' Kool Aid.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:09:33 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 19:18:04 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:

I pay around $8K per year in property taxes.

Bwahahahahahaaa !

Land of the Fee my ass !

There are no taxes on property ownership in the UK.

Graham

Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then?

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Come on, Spehro, you know the UK is perfect... why do you think Eeyore
brays all the time ?:-)


Of course Eeyore doesn't pay taxes. He lives under a bridge, and
steals internet access to brag about it. Everyone knows there is no
personal property tax on public structures.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

Eeyore wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

Semantics? What are council taxes and business rates then?

They pay for local services. There is at least a direct relationship.

Who supplies the street cleaners, rubbish collection and the like in the USA and
how do you pay for it ?


Street cleaners? You Brit moroons still haven't learned to put trash
in a trashcan? Around here, you have the coice of contracing a trash
hauler, or take it to the transfer station, a couple miles away.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

The Nazi party never had a majority. A large minority yes, but not a
majority. More important was Hitler's appointment as chencellor.

Tim

--
Deep Fryer: A very philosophical monk.
Website @ http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms

"Stephen J. Rush" wrote in message
. ..
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:47:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

So why does the "middle" vote Democrat?

Well, in my own case, in the next election, it's the only meaningful
protest against the slide into facism. Don't forget that Hitler was
*elected.* I used to vote Libertarian, but in the American
winner-take-all
system, that amounts to a wasted vote. Of course, given the present
state
of the Democratic party, it amounts to "Would you rather be hanged or
shot?"

"Robert Baer" wrote in message
...
Richard The Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:46:06 -0700, Robert Baer wrote:

mike wrote:

And while we're at it, let's create a huge government program to
provide FREE health care for everyone! Might as well throw illegal
aliens into the free program.

** What do you mean, "might as well"??
Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.



That's not the fault of the wetbacks - it's the fault of the socialism.

Thanks,
Rich

Started with "good" old FDR..
A good summary of the 1936 election, FDR, and voting
the largese to ourselves can be seen at;
http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis.asp
I found it interesting.
Mike

Jim Thompson wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:00:41 -0400, Fred Bloggs
wrote:



Jim Thompson wrote:

John D Dingell (D-MI15), take note that he's Congressman from MICHIGAN

is proposing a 50¢/gallon additional tax on gasoline.

Yeah, even that would be a small down payment on the cost of the US
military intervention that inevitably will be needed to secure the
middle east oil producers such as Saudi Arabia. After the US withdraws

from Iraq, in failure, the whole region is going up in flames.

He's also partner to a proposal to do away with the mortgage interest
deduction on your house if its size is above 3000 sq.ft.

Right, that's another good move. Those particular owners do not pay a
proportionate fair share of the infrastructural support subsidized by
government entities.


Oh, really? I pay around $8K per year in property taxes. Is that not
"proportionate", or do you think you have a right to STEAL even more?


STEAL is the appropriate word to use when referring to Republican party
controlled government. Now if you had a more humane and progressive
Democrat control, they are known to roll off property taxes for the elderly.


It makes very good sense to eliminate the tax
deductions in that case.


Bwahahahahaha! Democrats are their own worst enemies.

...Jim Thompson

You're out of touch with reality, but then living in a hell hole like
Phoenix, Arizona,


It REALLY is a hell hole. Everyone is advised to stay well away from
here ;-)

You know it, visiting that place was like dying and going to hell. Maybe
I missed something, but the whole socio-cultural aura seemed to be
somewhere in the range of vacuous to non-existent, and the people were
so...err...uncomplicated:-)

Jamie wrote:

wait a minute, our local government is trying to push through side walk
tax. if it goes through, every resident in this city will be getting a
tax bill for side walk maintenance except those that are the on local
local assistant programs. ( and they're many!)

Some of the earliest documents surviving from colonial America are the
Book(s) of Roads, some dating back nearly 400 years. These were records
of road maintenance responsibility assigned to various land owners by
whose property the roads passed. The labor was not compensated, it was
considered a civic responsibility at the time.

Robert Baer wrote:

Illegal mexicans get free medical, welfare, allowed to drive with no
insurance or license, etc ad nauseum.


Every child regardless of national origin, creed, color, race, religious
belief, parental status, legal status, pedigree, or any other damned
thing, has a RIGHT to medical care, education, and any other damned
thing to put them on equal footing with any other child in getting a
start on life. It is beyond monstrous to deny them this.