and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do they sharpen
razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I do not shave each day.]
Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the millions every shift. Are there any
clues in their secret methods which would be helpful to woodworkers? I am just
guessing now, but I think the makers use a procedure with a narrow steel alloy ribbon
about a mile or more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or both sides,
then blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of cake. How do
they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I
do not shave each day.] Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the
millions every shift. Are there any clues in their secret methods which
would be helpful to woodworkers? I am just guessing now, but I think the
makers use a procedure with a narrow steel alloy ribbon about a mile or
more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or both sides, then
blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of cake.
How do they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

Don't know how shaving razors are sharpened, but according to Leonard Lee
you can sharpen your plane irons and chisels to an even better edge.
There is a difference in angles and definitely a different shaving
technique.

-Doug

--
"It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among
[my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between
political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person,
the hatred they bore to his political opinions." --Thomas Jefferson

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
....
and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen
razor blades?

It's a secret. Honest. Gillette in Boston was a customer of mine. It is the
only company where I could not get into the plant. They never discussed
things like that at all. Only think I know is that the material is in a
band and then cut.

They did have a group of employees that came to work everyday and shaved on
company time. They evaluated new razors and did durability tests on
existing ones.

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

How do they sharpen razor blades?

_Really_ _Big_ pyramids

Tue, Oct 19, 2004, 12:43am (EDT+5)
(Andy=A0Dingley) claims:
_Really_ _Big_ pyramids

Oh, that's just plain silly.

Obviousiy, they use a bunch of little pyramids.



JOAT
Flush the Johns.
- seen on a bumper sticker

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen
razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I do not shave
each day.]
Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the millions every shift. Are
there any
clues in their secret methods which would be helpful to woodworkers? I am
just
guessing now, but I think the makers use a procedure with a narrow steel
alloy ribbon
about a mile or more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or
both sides,
then blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of
cake. How do
they sharpen that edge?


And why do they not use the same materials after the product has been on the
market for a year or so. 4 or 5 years ago I got a sample razor with 2
refills IIRC. It was a double blade coated with near microscopic diamonds.
No kidding, I used the first razor for 1 year, but not shaving every day,
before changing to one of the refills. The refills lasted quite long also.
When I bought replacements, I was less than impressed. 1 month was about
it.

Leon wrote:
"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen
razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I do not shave
each day.]
Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the millions every shift. Are
there any
clues in their secret methods which would be helpful to woodworkers? I am
just
guessing now, but I think the makers use a procedure with a narrow steel
alloy ribbon
about a mile or more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or
both sides,
then blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of
cake. How do
they sharpen that edge?



And why do they not use the same materials after the product has been on the
market for a year or so. 4 or 5 years ago I got a sample razor with 2
refills IIRC. It was a double blade coated with near microscopic diamonds.
No kidding, I used the first razor for 1 year, but not shaving every day,
before changing to one of the refills. The refills lasted quite long also.
When I bought replacements, I was less than impressed. 1 month was about
it.


That's why they do the durability testing mentioned above. That way
they can find out if there products are lasting too long and develop
ways to shorten their life. Only selling one set of replacement blades
a year isn't profitable business.

It's like the old story where the happy customer wrote the company
bragging that the great toaster he bought from them lasted 40 years.
The company bought the toaster from him for a lot more than he paid for
it. They wanted to ensure that that mistake never happened again...

Leon wrote:
It was a double blade coated with near microscopic diamonds.

Not sure why covering a sharp edge with a (durable)
powder would be a good thing.

BugBear

Yup. Those guys from the Ottawa Valley are a tough lot. I happen to know that a
lot of them use chisels to shave. JG

Doug Winterburn wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I
do not shave each day.] Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the
millions every shift. Are there any clues in their secret methods which
would be helpful to woodworkers? I am just guessing now, but I think the
makers use a procedure with a narrow steel alloy ribbon about a mile or
more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or both sides, then
blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of cake.
How do they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

Don't know how shaving razors are sharpened, but according to Leonard Lee
you can sharpen your plane irons and chisels to an even better edge.
There is a difference in angles and definitely a different shaving
technique.

-Doug

--
"It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among
[my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between
political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person,
the hatred they bore to his political opinions." --Thomas Jefferson

Hi Edwin,
It's not just secrets. On a trivia show one time they mentioned that there
were more patents issued/pending on shaving gear than any other household
item. Cheers, JG

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen
razor blades?

It's a secret. Honest. Gillette in Boston was a customer of mine. It is the
only company where I could not get into the plant. They never discussed
things like that at all. Only think I know is that the material is in a
band and then cut.

They did have a group of employees that came to work everyday and shaved on
company time. They evaluated new razors and did durability tests on
existing ones.

"bugbear" wrote in message
...
Leon wrote:
It was a double blade coated with near microscopic diamonds.

Not sure why covering a sharp edge with a (durable)
powder would be a good thing.

BugBear

The blade stays sharper longer... at least 175 shaves with one blade.

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen
razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I do not shave
each day.]
Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the millions every shift. Are
there any
clues in their secret methods which would be helpful to woodworkers? I am
just
guessing now, but I think the makers use a procedure with a narrow steel
alloy ribbon
about a mile or more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or
both sides,
then blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of
cake. How do
they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

I recall this topic coming up on rec.knives and they use a technique called
vapour honing. Can't remember much about it but I imagine it is still in
the archives.

Fraser

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 16:09:19 -0700, Doug Winterburn
calmly ranted:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I

http://www.antrak.org.tr/~ta2cip/razors.html


do not shave each day.] Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the
millions every shift. Are there any clues in their secret methods which
would be helpful to woodworkers? I am just guessing now, but I think the
makers use a procedure with a narrow steel alloy ribbon about a mile or
more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or both sides, then
blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of cake.
How do they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

Don't know how shaving razors are sharpened, but according to Leonard Lee
you can sharpen your plane irons and chisels to an even better edge.
There is a difference in angles and definitely a different shaving
technique.

I must say that the little plastic Bic razor is much easier
to manipulate around my chin than an 18" long, 2" wide, 4
pound slick...

Or an axe.
http://www.razoredgesystems.com/imag...avin_image.gif


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I think they must use a fairly soft metal that can take an extremely sharp
edge, because the blades arent' meant to last long or be re-used. Unlike the
OP, I have to shave every day, and I use the same blade no more than three or
four times, because my beard is pretty tough (not a boast, in fact it's a real
pain), and the quality of the shave declines markedly after that.
Remember how much shots hurt when you were a kid? It was partly because you
were a kid, of course, but mainly because the needles were re-used, and harder,
and couldn't be as sharp or as thin as the disposable ones they use today. Same
idea applies to razor blades.

Hoyt Weathers wrote in message ...
and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do they sharpen
razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I do not shave each day.]

They stay sharp for a month because you're not cutting wood with them.

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 00:43:07 +0100, Andy Dingley
wrote:



On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

How do they sharpen razor blades?

_Really_ _Big_ pyramids


*This* is why I read the wreck these days.
There was about a 20 second lapse between comprehension and grin...

Good one, sir!

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers
wrote:

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do they sharpen
razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I do not shave each day.]

Either you are getting a lot better blades than I can or my beard is
awfully tough. I only have to shave my neck (full beard) and only do
it 2-3 times a week. Two shaves is about the limit on any of the
disposable razors, sometimes 3 on the replaceable cartridges.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:30:39 -0400, JGS
wrote:

if they were really tough, they'd use disk sanders..

Yup. Those guys from the Ottawa Valley are a tough lot. I happen to know that a
lot of them use chisels to shave. JG

Doug Winterburn wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I
do not shave each day.] Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the
millions every shift. Are there any clues in their secret methods which
would be helpful to woodworkers? I am just guessing now, but I think the
makers use a procedure with a narrow steel alloy ribbon about a mile or
more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or both sides, then
blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of cake.
How do they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

Don't know how shaving razors are sharpened, but according to Leonard Lee
you can sharpen your plane irons and chisels to an even better edge.
There is a difference in angles and definitely a different shaving
technique.

-Doug

--
"It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among
[my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between
political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person,
the hatred they bore to his political opinions." --Thomas Jefferson

Tim Douglass wrote:

Either you are getting a lot better blades than I can or my beard is
awfully tough. I only have to shave my neck (full beard) and only do
it 2-3 times a week. Two shaves is about the limit on any of the
disposable razors, sometimes 3 on the replaceable cartridges.

You must just have sensitive widdle skin. I do a couple patches on my
cheeks and my neck once a week, and those cartridge deals last... Well, I
have no idea how long they last, but I bought a 10 pack of them in the '90s
sometime, and I'm not out of them yet.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:42:21 -0400, Silvan
wrote:

Tim Douglass wrote:

Either you are getting a lot better blades than I can or my beard is
awfully tough. I only have to shave my neck (full beard) and only do
it 2-3 times a week. Two shaves is about the limit on any of the
disposable razors, sometimes 3 on the replaceable cartridges.

You must just have sensitive widdle skin. I do a couple patches on my
cheeks and my neck once a week, and those cartridge deals last... Well, I
have no idea how long they last, but I bought a 10 pack of them in the '90s
sometime, and I'm not out of them yet.

That's pretty good. I use the Gillette disposables (Good News III ?)
and they last 3-4 months shaving each day. If I don't shave for a
couple of days over a weekend, it gets a bit of a brutal and painful
mission, but one should be frugal!

Barry Lennox

"Ken Muldrew" wrote in message
...

I still don't understand how a steel razor blade dulls so quickly
cutting hair. The difference in hardness is enormous and yet somehow
the razor's edge deteriorates.


Have you noticed that a carbide tipped blade is harder than wood and it also
dulls? The hardness is enormous at the back of the blade but at the cutting
edge you can make it flex by simply rubbing you thumb nail against it. The
micro thin edge is very thin and simply wears away. When I sharpen my
chisels I get a wire edge that is more flexible than aluminum foil.

I too had Gillette as a client. In order to get into the sharpening area, I
had to sign a secrecy agreement. Sorry.

"Edwin Pawlowski" wrote in message
...

"Hoyt Weathers" wrote in message
...
and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen
razor blades?

It's a secret. Honest. Gillette in Boston was a customer of mine. It is
the
only company where I could not get into the plant. They never discussed
things like that at all. Only think I know is that the material is in a
band and then cut.

They did have a group of employees that came to work everyday and shaved
on
company time. They evaluated new razors and did durability tests on
existing ones.

"Leon" wrote:

"Ken Muldrew" wrote in message
...

I still don't understand how a steel razor blade dulls so quickly
cutting hair. The difference in hardness is enormous and yet somehow
the razor's edge deteriorates.

Have you noticed that a carbide tipped blade is harder than wood and it also
dulls?

Yes, and I find that confusing as well. Although wood can have a lot
more inclusions of hard minerals than beard (or so I would guess). I
have a piece of desert ironwood that works as sandpaper.

The hardness is enormous at the back of the blade but at the cutting
edge you can make it flex by simply rubbing you thumb nail against it. The
micro thin edge is very thin and simply wears away.

That's the part that I don't understand. Why does it wear away. The
hair should wear before the steel.

When I sharpen my
chisels I get a wire edge that is more flexible than aluminum foil.

The wire edge is mostly separate from the blade. That it is more
flexible than a hair (if it is) does not explain why a hair will take
a chunk out of the steel.

Ken Muldrew

(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

"Ken Muldrew" wrote in message
...
"Leon" wrote:

"Ken Muldrew" wrote in message
...

I still don't understand how a steel razor blade dulls so quickly
cutting hair. The difference in hardness is enormous and yet somehow
the razor's edge deteriorates.

Have you noticed that a carbide tipped blade is harder than wood and it
also
dulls?

Yes, and I find that confusing as well. Although wood can have a lot
more inclusions of hard minerals than beard (or so I would guess). I
have a piece of desert ironwood that works as sandpaper.

The hardness is enormous at the back of the blade but at the cutting
edge you can make it flex by simply rubbing you thumb nail against it.
The
micro thin edge is very thin and simply wears away.

That's the part that I don't understand. Why does it wear away. The
hair should wear before the steel.

then why does water erode granite cliffs?


When I sharpen my
chisels I get a wire edge that is more flexible than aluminum foil.

The wire edge is mostly separate from the blade. That it is more
flexible than a hair (if it is) does not explain why a hair will take
a chunk out of the steel.

Ken Muldrew

(remove all letters after y in the alphabet)

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 14:42:21 -0400, Silvan
wrote:

Tim Douglass wrote:

Either you are getting a lot better blades than I can or my beard is
awfully tough. I only have to shave my neck (full beard) and only do
it 2-3 times a week. Two shaves is about the limit on any of the
disposable razors, sometimes 3 on the replaceable cartridges.

You must just have sensitive widdle skin.

Unfortunately it's true. One of the reasons I have had a beard for 20
years is that shaving makes me break out in a horrid rash. By only
doing it a couple times a week I get by.

I do a couple patches on my
cheeks and my neck once a week, and those cartridge deals last... Well, I
have no idea how long they last, but I bought a 10 pack of them in the '90s
sometime, and I'm not out of them yet.

Think of all the money you are saving... Now turn that saved money
into tools.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:45:29 GMT, Ken Muldrew wrote:
"Leon" wrote:

Have you noticed that a carbide tipped blade is harder than wood and it also
dulls?

Yes, and I find that confusing as well. Although wood can have a lot
more inclusions of hard minerals than beard (or so I would guess). I
have a piece of desert ironwood that works as sandpaper.

I think it's more that the edge is _brittle_. Sure, glass is harder
than wood, but you can break bits off of the edge of a sheet of glass with
a piece of wood. On a microscopic level, I imagine this is what is happening
to our nice sharp edges when we touch wood (or whiskers) to them.

Lacking an electron microsocope, I can't personally test this theory.

That's the part that I don't understand. Why does it wear away. The
hair should wear before the steel.

I think it's chipping away, not wearing away.

Dave Hinz

"Tim Douglass" wrote in message
Think of all the money you are saving... Now turn that saved money
into tools.


I stopped growing hair for the same reason. Eight bucks every three weeks
or so now go for more important things. Like tools.

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:35:44 +0000, Dave Hinz wrote:

That's the part that I don't understand. Why does it wear away. The
hair should wear before the steel.

I think it's chipping away, not wearing away.

Also bending, flowing, and generally deforming. Think of the point
pressure you achieve when pushing a very sharp blade against a round
object.

While googling around for sharpening info, I saw one grade of
material that used talc as the abrasive. Mighty slow cutting, one would
think.

Tim Douglass wrote:

You must just have sensitive widdle skin.

Unfortunately it's true. One of the reasons I have had a beard for 20
years is that shaving makes me break out in a horrid rash. By only
doing it a couple times a week I get by.

Actually, me too. Those little patches I shave stay broken out. Maybe
because I'm so cheap I'm using a dull ass blade, whaddaya think?

Think of all the money you are saving... Now turn that saved money
into tools.

Or something. My current black hole for money is musical instruments and
related pari... pare... pariphen... um... stuff.

I actually feel like I have just about enough tools.

(At least until I can come up with the money to build a bigger shop.

--
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Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:

I stopped growing hair for the same reason. Eight bucks every three weeks
or so now go for more important things. Like tools.

Three weeks hell. Twelve bucks every six to nine months.

I got sick of that though, and now I'm Mr. Buzz. $12 once, then free
haircuts for years. Looks terrible, but who cares?

--
Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:30:17 -0400, Silvan
wrote:



My current black hole for money is musical instruments and
related pari... pare... pariphen... um... stuff.

I actually feel like I have just about enough tools.

(At least until I can come up with the money to build a bigger shop.


or until you get into _making_ musical instruments....

On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 21:30:17 -0400, Silvan
calmly ranted:

Tim Douglass wrote:

You must just have sensitive widdle skin.

Unfortunately it's true. One of the reasons I have had a beard for 20
years is that shaving makes me break out in a horrid rash. By only
doing it a couple times a week I get by.

Actually, me too. Those little patches I shave stay broken out. Maybe
because I'm so cheap I'm using a dull ass blade, whaddaya think?

Prollyso, Sylvie. (Welcome back, BTW)

I found that washing my face with soap and water 15 minutes before (or
using alcohol on a washrag just before) using the electric shaver
worked well to keep the rash down. hand lotion on the shaved area
helps, too. I think my shaver gets(wood and other) dust in it if I
forget to clean up first.


Think of all the money you are saving... Now turn that saved money
into tools.

Or something. My current black hole for money is musical instruments and
related pari... pare... pariphen... um... stuff.

Paraphernalia.
DAMHIKT


I actually feel like I have just about enough tools.

Lying bastid.


(At least until I can come up with the money to build a bigger shop.

Oh, OK. Never mind my last comment.

--
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A corollary to this whole thread: Why do razor blade companies compete
against themselves with multiple kinds of razors? I can understand
having different levels of quality (Sensor, Sensor XL, etc), or having
different uses (for coarse hair, for sensitive skin, etc), but most
razor companies simply make multiple kinds of razors with little
explanation as to any kind of differences in them. Wouldn't it make
more sense to promote one kind of razor as better than the
competitor's brands?

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:09:09 GMT, Xane T. wrote:

A corollary to this whole thread: Why do razor blade companies compete
against themselves with multiple kinds of razors? I can understand
having different levels of quality (Sensor, Sensor XL, etc), or having
different uses (for coarse hair, for sensitive skin, etc), but most
razor companies simply make multiple kinds of razors with little
explanation as to any kind of differences in them. Wouldn't it make
more sense to promote one kind of razor as better than the
competitor's brands?

Well, like toothbrushes, sugar, salt, and a number of other consumer goods,
there aren't any real differences between one brand and another. They
have to differentiate their product _somehow_, so they do it by
marketing surveys, test groups, and that sort of thing. In a world
where there are no real differences, having a larger number of choices
be from your company is one way to increase market share.

It's all marketing bull****, nothing more. They send you a "sample"
for free, only their blades fit that handle, and for reasons they understand
but don't make any sense, men won't throw away a perfectly good handle -
so we'll keep buying blades from 'em.

Dave Hinz

Dave Hinz wrote in message
...
On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:09:09 GMT, Xane T. wrote:

A corollary to this whole thread: Why do razor blade companies compete
against themselves with multiple kinds of razors?
Not to mention that if they predominate on the shelves, they'll likely get
the majority of the sales. Companies that have big selling power, can also
ask for and get "slotting fees"- money to simply give a particular product
producer the "best" spot on the shelf. Pat

JGS wrote in message ...
Yup. Those guys from the Ottawa Valley are a tough lot. I happen to know that a
lot of them use chisels to shave. JG

Doug Winterburn wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:20:31 -0500, Hoyt Weathers wrote:

and I nicked myself, again, a question of the obvious struck me. How do
they sharpen razor blades? The thingies stay sharp for a month or more. [I
do not shave each day.] Those thingies must be made and sharpened in the
millions every shift. Are there any clues in their secret methods which
would be helpful to woodworkers? I am just guessing now, but I think the
makers use a procedure with a narrow steel alloy ribbon about a mile or
more long, then sharpen one edge of that ribbon on one or both sides, then
blank out the individual blades. Assembly would then be a piece of cake.
How do they sharpen that edge?

Hoyt W.

Don't know how shaving razors are sharpened, but according to Leonard Lee
you can sharpen your plane irons and chisels to an even better edge.
There is a difference in angles and definitely a different shaving
technique.

-Doug

--
"It has been a source of great pain to me to have met with so many among
[my] opponents who had not the liberality to distinguish between
political and social opposition; who transferred at once to the person,
the hatred they bore to his political opinions." --Thomas Jefferson

Shave? SHAVE??! I jes pound 'em in and bite em off!

Larry Jaques wrote:

Prollyso, Sylvie. (Welcome back, BTW)

Thanks... You ever finish that whateveryouwereworkingon?

I found that washing my face with soap and water 15 minutes before (or
using alcohol on a washrag just before) using the electric shaver
worked well to keep the rash down. hand lotion on the shaved area
helps, too. I think my shaver gets(wood and other) dust in it if I
forget to clean up first.

Electric shaver? O_o

Or something. My current black hole for money is musical instruments and
related pari... pare... pariphen... um... stuff.

Paraphernalia.
DAMHIKT

I think I might can figure out how you know. I never could get close enough
for the dictionary to figure out what the hell I was trying to say.
(Actually a bit unusual for someone as big of a word dork as I am.) When I
looked it up:

1. (Law) Something reserved to a wife, over and above her
dower, being chiefly apparel and ornaments suited to her
degree.

Makes me wonder...

I actually feel like I have just about enough tools.

Lying bastid.


(At least until I can come up with the money to build a bigger shop.

Oh, OK. Never mind my last comment.

Either I gotta quit with the tools or I gotta go on a good diet. It's
getting hard to squeeze my fat ass into my little tiny shop since I got
that contractor's saw.


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Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
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wrote:

I actually feel like I have just about enough tools.

(At least until I can come up with the money to build a bigger shop.


or until you get into _making_ musical instruments....

I'd love to, but there's a looooooooot of learning curve to tackle. Like
bending wood for one thing. I don't do so good on curvy things.

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Michael McIntyre ---- Silvan
Linux fanatic, and certified Geek; registered Linux user #243621
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/5407/
http://rosegarden.sourceforge.net/tutorial/

On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 23:16:56 -0400, Silvan
wrote:

wrote:

I actually feel like I have just about enough tools.

(At least until I can come up with the money to build a bigger shop.


or until you get into _making_ musical instruments....

I'd love to, but there's a looooooooot of learning curve to tackle. Like
bending wood for one thing. I don't do so good on curvy things.


curves are the fun part.

and think of all the tools you can get.....

On 21 Oct 2004 15:53:30 -0700, (Gary DeWitt) wrote:

Shave? SHAVE??! I jes pound 'em in and bite em off!

Ah... "I can tell you are a logger, and not just a common bum..."

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com