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We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our
fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Any comments. Thanks. |
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On 10/22/12 10:32 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? A structural backer is a good idea just to prevent to possibility of a person or part of a person going through it. Bonding with mirror adhesive or contact cement is also a good idea to prevent glass from falling all over the place if the mirror were to be broken in any way. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Whatever as long as it is reasonably rigid. I used to have a condo with 12' of floor to ceiling mirrors on the wall (which was drywall). Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I would use the black goop that mirror people use for that purpose. Actually, I imagine most any would work...silicone, acrylic, Liquid Nails, linoleum paste, etc. Just assure that it is something that won't damage the silvering. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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On 10/22/2012 1:30 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Whatever as long as it is reasonably rigid. I used to have a condo with 12' of floor to ceiling mirrors on the wall (which was drywall). Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I would use the black goop that mirror people use for that purpose. Actually, I imagine most any would work...silicone, acrylic, Liquid Nails, linoleum paste, etc. Just assure that it is something that won't damage the silvering. My concern is the length of the hole. I planned to put in the backer board only, with no studs in the 41" length. The plan is to make it removal IF there is ever a need to access the area behind it. My thinking is at minimum a 3/8 piece of plywood but am unsure if that is adequate.' Thank to all who have responded so far. It looks like my wife is going to get her wish, to have it in for a family get together in mid December. I know but I am slow and like to thoroughly think things through. |
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On 10/22/12 1:20 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 10/22/2012 1:30 PM, dadiOH wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Whatever as long as it is reasonably rigid. I used to have a condo with 12' of floor to ceiling mirrors on the wall (which was drywall). Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I would use the black goop that mirror people use for that purpose. Actually, I imagine most any would work...silicone, acrylic, Liquid Nails, linoleum paste, etc. Just assure that it is something that won't damage the silvering. My concern is the length of the hole. I planned to put in the backer board only, with no studs in the 41" length. The plan is to make it removal IF there is ever a need to access the area behind it. My thinking is at minimum a 3/8 piece of plywood but am unsure if that is adequate.' Thank to all who have responded so far. It looks like my wife is going to get her wish, to have it in for a family get together in mid December. I know but I am slow and like to thoroughly think things through. At 41inches, 3/4" mdf or 7 or more ply plywood would be plenty stiff enough. You're right about the 3/8, too flimsy, although it would accomplish the goal hold holding mirror together if something were to run into it... and you could always screw some sort of frame to back of it. But 3/4 mdf is pretty cheap and so is non-sanded 3/4 plywood. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Twist the wire nuts on, making sure that there is no exposed wire. You can even cut the ends of the wire back to the insulation before twisting on the nuts. There is no need to wrap it in electrical tape. That is something that works more in the minds of the person doing it, than it really does in reality. -- -Mike- |
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On 10/22/12 2:29 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote: I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Twist the wire nuts on, making sure that there is no exposed wire. You can even cut the ends of the wire back to the insulation before twisting on the nuts. There is no need to wrap it in electrical tape. That is something that works more in the minds of the person doing it, than it really does in reality. Mike, have you not found that the wire nuts hold on to metal better than the insulation? At least in my experience, when I've left even just an eighth or quarter inch of wire for the nut to grab, it's held much better than when grabbing just the insulation. The only reason I know this is having recently put temporary wire nuts on romex for our remodel. The ones that were on insulation only almost fell off with an untwist or two. The ones on bare wire had to be untwisted at least a couple full turns before they could be pulled off. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:22:34 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 10/22/12 10:32 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? A structural backer is a good idea just to prevent to possibility of a person or part of a person going through it. Bonding with mirror adhesive or contact cement is also a good idea to prevent glass from falling all over the place if the mirror were to be broken in any way. The only problem with gluing the mirror to the backboard is the very REAL possibility that the glue will pull the silvering off the back of the mirror. How are you intending to mount the mirror? Is it in a frame, or will you use mirror brackets? |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 14:20:01 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: On 10/22/2012 1:30 PM, dadiOH wrote: Keith Nuttle wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Whatever as long as it is reasonably rigid. I used to have a condo with 12' of floor to ceiling mirrors on the wall (which was drywall). Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I would use the black goop that mirror people use for that purpose. Actually, I imagine most any would work...silicone, acrylic, Liquid Nails, linoleum paste, etc. Just assure that it is something that won't damage the silvering. My concern is the length of the hole. I planned to put in the backer board only, with no studs in the 41" length. The plan is to make it removal IF there is ever a need to access the area behind it. My thinking is at minimum a 3/8 piece of plywood but am unsure if that is adequate.' Thank to all who have responded so far. It looks like my wife is going to get her wish, to have it in for a family get together in mid December. I know but I am slow and like to thoroughly think things through. 3/8 or 1/2 ply would be plenty, even over 41 inches of width if it is supported top and bottom a well as both sides - it's only, wat - 32 inches high?? |
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Put some temporary studs behind your ply board, if your concern about stability still exists. At minimum, just wedging them (top or bottom) snuggly/tightly in place should work fine, for preventing someone from accidently pushing the mirror back into the recess, if that is the concern.
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:32:10 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Thick ply. Hinge it on one side, fireproof it, and make a secret storage area behind the mirror. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? How about screwing the mirror to it from the back through the ply to the mirror frame? I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Any comments. Ssh! Don't tell anyone about the secret storage space. -- They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as truth, rather than truth as authority. -- Gerald Massey, Egyptologist |
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On 10/22/2012 10:32 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Plywood would be the most resistant to something penetrating. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? Not necessarily, I would not, see below. I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Any comments. Thanks. What ever you do be very careful in choosing your bonding agent. Many adhesives and IIRC silicone base adhesives will quickly deteriorate the mirror reflective material. Go to your local glass store and ask what to use. |
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On 10/22/2012 12:30 PM, dadiOH wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Whatever as long as it is reasonably rigid. I used to have a condo with 12' of floor to ceiling mirrors on the wall (which was drywall). Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I would use the black goop that mirror people use for that purpose. Actually, I imagine most any would work...silicone, acrylic, Liquid Nails, linoleum paste, etc. Just assure that it is something that won't damage the silvering. NO! Actually many adhesives will react with the mirror coating. You want the correct adhesive. |
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-MIKE- wrote:
Mike, have you not found that the wire nuts hold on to metal better than the insulation? At least in my experience, when I've left even just an eighth or quarter inch of wire for the nut to grab, it's held much better than when grabbing just the insulation. Yes, but I've never had them come off, so that's why I suggested it to him. -- -Mike- |
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On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 11:32:10 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Any comments. Thanks. Those abandoned electric wires would still be connected, so the hot wire remains hot? I believe that's a potential future fire hazard, wire nuts and electrical tape or not. I am thinking rodents and teeth when I say that. I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. |
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On 10/24/12 8:15 PM, Jim Weisgram wrote:
Those abandoned electric wires would still be connected, so the hot wire remains hot? I believe that's a potential future fire hazard, wire nuts and electrical tape or not. I am thinking rodents and teeth when I say that. How is that different from any other romex running through the walls? I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. That is probably true. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE-
I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. Just access Dave. It can even be hidden behind a panel, as long as the panel is removable. -- -Mike- |
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On 10/22/2012 10:32 AM, Keith Nuttle wrote:
We are planning on putting a mirror to cover the TV hole above our fireplace. The plan is to remove minimal trim, place shims on the sides of the existing opening so the mirror is flush with the back edge of the mantel and the existing trim. I plan on cutting this backing board so it would fit into the opening, and holding it in with quarter round or similar. What would be best for this backing board. MDF, plywood, etc. Should the mirror be bonded to the backer board. If so how? I plan to remove the electrical plug, put wire nuts on each wire and wrap the ends in tape. I am going to do nothing with the phone and cable jacks that are there. Is the electrical outlet in the way? If not why do anything at all with it? What makes covering it up any different than putting a sofa in front of a wall plug? |
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Leon wrote:
Is the electrical outlet in the way? If not why do anything at all with it? What makes covering it up any different than putting a sofa in front of a wall plug? Well, from strictly a husbandly point of view - putting a sofa in front of a wall plug does offer the enjoyable view of the wife leaning over the back of the sofa to plug something in. Oh wait... that's not what you were trying to say... -- -Mike- |
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On 10/25/2012 9:55 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Leon wrote: Is the electrical outlet in the way? If not why do anything at all with it? What makes covering it up any different than putting a sofa in front of a wall plug? Well, from strictly a husbandly point of view - putting a sofa in front of a wall plug does offer the enjoyable view of the wife leaning over the back of the sofa to plug something in. Oh wait... that's not what you were trying to say... As I said it is above the fireplace, too high to have to bend over. ;-) As I remember there was a big discussion on this group(?) about closing in plugs a few months ago, and I was just checking if there had been any changes. As I understood from a practical point of view there was no problem, but there may be a problem with local regulations. |
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On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. A Sawzall? :-) -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 10/25/2012 9:55 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: Leon wrote: Is the electrical outlet in the way? If not why do anything at all with it? What makes covering it up any different than putting a sofa in front of a wall plug? Well, from strictly a husbandly point of view - putting a sofa in front of a wall plug does offer the enjoyable view of the wife leaning over the back of the sofa to plug something in. Oh wait... that's not what you were trying to say... As I said it is above the fireplace, too high to have to bend over. ;-) Well... there's always that other view - reaching up really, really high... As I remember there was a big discussion on this group(?) about closing in plugs a few months ago, and I was just checking if there had been any changes. As I understood from a practical point of view there was no problem, but there may be a problem with local regulations. Depends on how you mean that. NEC requires that any junction box remain accessable. It can be covered over by a removable panel but it can't be enclosed in a sheet rock wall for example. If this is a permanant change, then you might consider cutting the feed to that outlet at its source, and then just patching the hole in the wall where it used to be. If that's not necessary for your plans, then just remove the outlet, wire nut the wires, and cover it with a box cover. Or... as Leon suggested, just leave the outlet in place and put your mirror over it. -- -Mike- |
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-MIKE- wrote:
On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. A Sawzall? :-) 6lb Sledge Hammer? -- -Mike- |
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On 10/25/12 11:36 AM, Mike Marlow wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. A Sawzall? :-) 6lb Sledge Hammer? 6!? I thought you were a man! -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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-MIKE- wrote:
On 10/25/12 11:36 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. A Sawzall? :-) 6lb Sledge Hammer? 6!? I thought you were a man! It's sheetrock man! I was trying to sound manly without over-doing it. Did I mess up? -- -Mike- |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:51:01 -0400, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. Needs to be "accessible" Removeable panel makes it accessible. It DOES need to be in an approved enclosure (box) - no live capped off cables terminating in open air. So forget the wire-nuts and just stich a receptacle on it. |
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On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 05:51:01 -0400, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. Needs to be "accessible" Removeable panel makes it accessible. It DOES need to be in an approved enclosure (box) - no live capped off cables terminating in open air. So forget the wire-nuts and just stich a receptacle on it. Well - if there is an outlet in place already, there is most likely a box there as well. All he needs to do is to cap off the wires within the box and cover it over. -- -Mike- |
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Mike Marlow wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. I think you need to be able to see it (as in, you can't cover it up). Of course, I'm not a pro. A Sawzall? :-) 6lb Sledge Hammer? |
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On 10/25/12 12:48 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
-MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 11:36 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. A Sawzall? :-) 6lb Sledge Hammer? 6!? I thought you were a man! It's sheetrock man! I was trying to sound manly without over-doing it. Did I mess up? Just hoping you have one in each hand. :-) Tangent... I take my time tearing off sheetrock. I find if you bounce the walls a bit, you can get the nails/screws to pop, then pull them out and take the sheets off the wall in bigger sections. You'd think it's slower, but with all the extra clean-up that comes with bashing away at it, it's a nicer job. -- -MIKE- "Playing is not something I do at night, it's my function in life" --Elvin Jones (1927-2004) -- http://mikedrums.com ---remove "DOT" ^^^^ to reply |
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Bill wrote:
Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. I think you need to be able to see it (as in, you can't cover it up). Of course, I'm not a pro. It can be covered over Bill, but it can't be sealed in. In other words, it can be behind a removable panel, but not in a sheet rock wall. -- -Mike- |
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Mike Marlow wrote:
Bill wrote: Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. I think you need to be able to see it (as in, you can't cover it up). Of course, I'm not a pro. It can be covered over Bill, but it can't be sealed in. In other words, it can be behind a removable panel, but not in a sheet rock wall. Sorry. Yes, as already noted you need to be able to access it. You can camouflage it but you'll still know it's there! I have a cousin who needed to create one of those. |
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Backing for Mirror
On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 00:07:33 -0500, -MIKE-
wrote: On 10/25/12 12:48 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 11:36 AM, Mike Marlow wrote: -MIKE- wrote: On 10/25/12 4:51 AM, Dave wrote: On Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:19:39 -0500, -MIKE- I suspect code would require a junction box with a cover that provides access to the wire ends, but I am not an electrician and I haven't bothered to check the code. And, with my limited understanding of electrical code, I believe there also needs to be easy access to that junction box. I'm not exactly sure what makes up easy access. A Sawzall? :-) 6lb Sledge Hammer? 6!? I thought you were a man! It's sheetrock man! I was trying to sound manly without over-doing it. Did I mess up? Just hoping you have one in each hand. :-) Tangent... I take my time tearing off sheetrock. I find if you bounce the walls a bit, you can get the nails/screws to pop, then pull them out and take the sheets off the wall in bigger sections. You'd think it's slower, but with all the extra clean-up that comes with bashing away at it, it's a nicer job. Agreed. I cut the outline (if necessary) then try to find the nails/crews and remove it in big pieces. I can then score and break the waste where dust doesn't matter. |
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