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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?


No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
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Quite a few years ago my wife and I spent a night in Greeneville
Junction, Maine. There was a pub there called the Roadkill Cafe,
complete with a comical menu full of flattened critters (the food was
mostly standard fare). After dinner we hung out at the bar for a while.

The fellow next to us spent more time than was absolutely necessary
describing an nighttime encounter between his 4x4 vehicle and one of the
local megafauna. To make an overlong story short, it didn't go well for
either the moose or the truck.

Now our friend had had a few beers, and had likely done the same the
night of the crash, so there may have been some embellishment. But to
hear him tell it, the highway cop that responded to the accident asked
him if he wanted to keep the meat.

"500 pounds of fresh venison? Hell yeah!"

Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look
like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in
freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be lying
if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and there. But
he did keep us entertained for a while.
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My neighbor hit a deer and the cop offered the carcass to a passer by,
the neighbor said hell no, I want that meat, and brought it home and
butchered it in her yard. Her dad was a butcher apparently and did many
hunters keep. She learned from him. The meat was very tasty 8)

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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
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Nope. Not a chance. BTDT, too f'ing messy to want to try it again.
I hunt. And I pay someone else to butcher my kills.

But I *would* -- as provided for by Indiana law -- request a
sheriff's deputy to give me a game tag for that deer so I could
legally transport it to the same butcher I use during hunting
season.


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I think more than anything the decision would be made based on whether or
not there was time, how I was dressed, if the vehicle were drivable, and if
you can even find the deer. I hit one one time with a VW bug and the deer
went over the roof after caving in the hood and right fender. Never did find
it... needed help pulling the fender out of the tire too.

Other it depends issues... if it was a solid body hit forget it... exploded
guts and "bruised" meat aren't worth the effort nor the nasty experience. On
the other hand, if it isn't hit too bad the back straps and hind quarters
can be taken out quickly without having to get into the guts.

It depends... and the coyotes, vultures and crows have to eat too.







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Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container...

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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.


We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them
through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher
them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they
don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job
easier.

Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states.

That said, roadkill is nasty. The side of the road is the best place for
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Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look
like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in
freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be
lying if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and
there. But he did keep us entertained for a while.


Ah yeah... but those backwoods good old boys usually do know how to dress
and butcher a deer/moose/elk, etc. It's not such a difficult thing at all.
Second vehicle - quite possibly an issue. Walk in freezer - not at all
necesary, and in fact very uncommon among people who shoot big game.

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You can do that in Illinois, of course that is if your vehicle is
drivable.


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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
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If I had the skill yes.

Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage
appeared to be some blood round the eyes. I took it home, got my wife out
of bed (Her gran had taught how to deal with a rabbit) and it was rabbit
stew the following Sunday,

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Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container...



Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!

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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
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If I had the skill yes.

Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage
appeared to be some blood round the eyes. I took it home, got my wife out
of bed (Her gran had taught how to deal with a rabbit) and it was rabbit
stew the following Sunday,


Tenderized ...


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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
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If I had the skill yes.

Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage
appeared to be some blood round the eyes.



Not to mention that it was dead, right? LOL.
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Michael wrote:

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
container...



Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!



Ummmmmm... and that aroma...

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No, but I might call one of the hunters I know and see if they're
interested.

Last winter, we had a deer die up by the garden after being hit by a car.
It was cold enough to possibly preserve the deer, so I called one of the
hunters. He didn't think it'd be worth messing with for the meat,
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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
take it home and butcher it?


If I had the skill yes.

Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only
damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes.



Not to mention that it was dead, right? LOL.


Yes. What I meant was it wasn't mangled up in anyway. g

OK, It happened like this.

I was coming home from work after evening shift about 2310h. The track
from the transmitting station was steep, twisty and unlit. I came round a
bend and this rabbit was sitting in the middle of the road. I guess it was
transfixed by my lights as it didn't move and I couldn't avoid it. I tried
to drive over it with my wheels each side of it but as I went over it I
heard a bump. I stopped the car, looked round and found it on the verge. I
suspect it tried to hop away but hit its head on the underside of the car.

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Not legal in California. Even if it were deer season, and you had a tag for
the zone where you hit the deer, striking the deer with a motor vehicle is
not a legal method of take. If you hit one, leave it lay, otherwise it's
poaching. Dumb? Maybe. But that's life in California.

That said, I know that some folks, where there are lots of road killed deer,
are very adept at field dressing a deer and can get it back home and in the
fridge pretty quick. And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than
anyone knows. And I also suspect the folks who do this are pretty good
about determining what meat is quickly and easily salvageable. Personally,
nah. Not for me.


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In Ohio it is illegal to take the deer. Not sure why. Mike in Ohio

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Swingman wrote:
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Michael wrote:

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
container...



Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!



Ummmmmm... and that aroma...


Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
past your nose to your lips.

That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...

(key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice)

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Swingman wrote:
On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Michael wrote:

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
container...


Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!



Ummmmmm... and that aroma...


Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
past your nose to your lips.

That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...

(key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice)


Rumor has it that menudo cures a hangover - personally, I wouldn't know
- maybe.


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Swingman wrote:
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Michael wrote:

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the
container...


Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!



Ummmmmm... and that aroma...


Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno,
cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe
roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way
past your nose to your lips.

That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ...

(key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice)


Ackchooly, the primo ingredient in menudo soup is tripe (critter tummy).
How it was harvested isn't part of the recipe.


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Damn ... that even gagged a coonass!

Candyass! Sorta made me want to get a spoon and a straw.
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I'm not interesting in doing it. The state though, has people on a
list that take the deer and make good use of it. State laws will vary
with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless
shelters and soup kitchens.
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Larry Jaques wrote:
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wrote:

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.


We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them
through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher
them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they
don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job
easier.

Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
Read it and weep, bubba.



That said, roadkill is nasty. The side of the road is the best place for
it.


Amen. And I love the new (to me) term, "flattened fauna", don't you?

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And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows.


Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay a
mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the
one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan
(who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for
family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You
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I'm not interesting in doing it. The state though, has people on a
list that take the deer and make good use of it. State laws will vary
with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless
shelters and soup kitchens.


Around here, everyone takes it to (or has it picked up by) the
Wildlife Images park. http://www.wildlifeimages.org/ Clark is my
fave kitty, a bigass cougar.

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Larry Jaques wrote:
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wrote:

Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?

No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher
them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces.
Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers
and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some
states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be
fined.


We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag
them through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them
and butcher them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home,
and actually, they don't get dragged very far these days. I have
technology to make that job easier.

Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something
like an eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is
goverened by states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
Read it and weep, bubba.


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Ralph Compton wrote:

And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows.


Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay
a mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the
one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan
(who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for
family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You
really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe.


There is fresh road kill and there is road kill... ;~) When I worked at
Colonial Williamsburg road kill opossum and other critters would end up in
the restored area interpretive kitchens. ;~)


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Larry Jaques wrote:
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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be
tempted to take it home and butcher it?


No, and I love venison. *But the people who hit deer usually butcher
them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban
neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting
guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to
harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined.


We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. *Then we drag them
through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher
them. *Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they
don't get dragged very far these days. *I have technology to make that job
easier.


Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an
eagle. *Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine
Read it and weep, bubba.

That said, roadkill is nasty. *The side of the road is the best place for
it.


Amen. *And I love the new (to me) term, "flattened fauna", don't you?

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On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to
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If I had the skill yes.


Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only
damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes.

Not to mention that it was dead, right? *LOL.


Yes. What I meant was it wasn't mangled up in anyway. g

OK, It happened like this.

I was coming home from work after evening shift about 2310h. The track
from the transmitting station was steep, twisty and unlit. I came round a
bend and this rabbit was sitting in the middle of the road. I guess it was
transfixed by my lights as it didn't move and I couldn't avoid it. I tried
to drive over it with my wheels each side of it but as I went over it I
heard a bump. I stopped the car, looked round and found it on the verge. I
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Those wabbits aren't too bright then, eh?
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I'm not interesting in doing it. *The state though, has people on a
list that take the deer and make good use of it. *State laws will vary
with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless
shelters and soup kitchens.


That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
around christmas.
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That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled
here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning,
packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people
around christmas.


I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario
shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them
to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds.

Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you
couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose ****.
Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the
books.

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