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Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it?
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined. -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. |
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On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote:
Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike Quite a few years ago my wife and I spent a night in Greeneville Junction, Maine. There was a pub there called the Roadkill Cafe, complete with a comical menu full of flattened critters (the food was mostly standard fare). After dinner we hung out at the bar for a while. The fellow next to us spent more time than was absolutely necessary describing an nighttime encounter between his 4x4 vehicle and one of the local megafauna. To make an overlong story short, it didn't go well for either the moose or the truck. Now our friend had had a few beers, and had likely done the same the night of the crash, so there may have been some embellishment. But to hear him tell it, the highway cop that responded to the accident asked him if he wanted to keep the meat. "500 pounds of fresh venison? Hell yeah!" Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be lying if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and there. But he did keep us entertained for a while. |
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My neighbor hit a deer and the cop offered the carcass to a passer by,
the neighbor said hell no, I want that meat, and brought it home and butchered it in her yard. Her dad was a butcher apparently and did many hunters keep. She learned from him. The meat was very tasty 8) On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike |
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Michael wrote in
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel 5: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Nope. Not a chance. BTDT, too f'ing messy to want to try it again. I hunt. And I pay someone else to butcher my kills. But I *would* -- as provided for by Indiana law -- request a sheriff's deputy to give me a game tag for that deer so I could legally transport it to the same butcher I use during hunting season. |
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"Michael" wrote in message news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5... Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? I think more than anything the decision would be made based on whether or not there was time, how I was dressed, if the vehicle were drivable, and if you can even find the deer. I hit one one time with a VW bug and the deer went over the roof after caving in the hood and right fender. Never did find it... needed help pulling the fender out of the tire too. Other it depends issues... if it was a solid body hit forget it... exploded guts and "bruised" meat aren't worth the effort nor the nasty experience. On the other hand, if it isn't hit too bad the back straps and hind quarters can be taken out quickly without having to get into the guts. It depends... and the coyotes, vultures and crows have to eat too. |
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Greg Guarino wrote:
Our friend was maybe 155 pounds including his boots, and didn't look like the type to have butchering skills, a second vehicle or a walk-in freezer. He told us a number of other stories as well, and I'd be lying if I didn't admit to feeling a twinge of skepticism here and there. But he did keep us entertained for a while. Ah yeah... but those backwoods good old boys usually do know how to dress and butcher a deer/moose/elk, etc. It's not such a difficult thing at all. Second vehicle - quite possibly an issue. Walk in freezer - not at all necesary, and in fact very uncommon among people who shoot big game. -- -Mike- |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike You can do that in Illinois, of course that is if your vehicle is drivable. |
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28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5, Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? If I had the skill yes. Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes. I took it home, got my wife out of bed (Her gran had taught how to deal with a rabbit) and it was rabbit stew the following Sunday, -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org |
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On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container... Damn ... that even gagged a coonass! -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
In article 28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5, wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? If I had the skill yes. Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes. I took it home, got my wife out of bed (Her gran had taught how to deal with a rabbit) and it was rabbit stew the following Sunday, Tenderized ... -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote:
In article 28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5, wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? If I had the skill yes. Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes. Not to mention that it was dead, right? LOL. |
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Swingman wrote:
On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container... Damn ... that even gagged a coonass! Ummmmmm... and that aroma... -- -Mike- |
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Michael wrote in
news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike No, but I might call one of the hunters I know and see if they're interested. Last winter, we had a deer die up by the garden after being hit by a car. It was cold enough to possibly preserve the deer, so I called one of the hunters. He didn't think it'd be worth messing with for the meat, especially considering it had been hit. Puckdropper -- Make it to fit, don't make it fit. |
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Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote: In article 28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5, wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? If I had the skill yes. Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes. Not to mention that it was dead, right? LOL. Yes. What I meant was it wasn't mangled up in anyway. g OK, It happened like this. I was coming home from work after evening shift about 2310h. The track from the transmitting station was steep, twisty and unlit. I came round a bend and this rabbit was sitting in the middle of the road. I guess it was transfixed by my lights as it didn't move and I couldn't avoid it. I tried to drive over it with my wheels each side of it but as I went over it I heard a bump. I stopped the car, looked round and found it on the verge. I suspect it tried to hop away but hit its head on the underside of the car. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emails http://www.asciiribbon.org |
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Not legal in California. Even if it were deer season, and you had a tag for
the zone where you hit the deer, striking the deer with a motor vehicle is not a legal method of take. If you hit one, leave it lay, otherwise it's poaching. Dumb? Maybe. But that's life in California. That said, I know that some folks, where there are lots of road killed deer, are very adept at field dressing a deer and can get it back home and in the fridge pretty quick. And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows. And I also suspect the folks who do this are pretty good about determining what meat is quickly and easily salvageable. Personally, nah. Not for me. "Michael" wrote in message news:28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5... Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike |
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In Ohio it is illegal to take the deer. Not sure why. Mike in Ohio
On 3/9/2012 1:21 PM, Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike |
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On 3/9/2012 5:54 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Swingman wrote: On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container... Damn ... that even gagged a coonass! Ummmmmm... and that aroma... Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... (key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice) -- www.eWoodShop.com Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlCaillouet@ (the obvious) http://gplus.to/eWoodShop |
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On 03/09/2012 06:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 3/9/2012 5:54 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Swingman wrote: On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container... Damn ... that even gagged a coonass! Ummmmmm... and that aroma... Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... (key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice) Rumor has it that menudo cures a hangover - personally, I wouldn't know - maybe. -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. Swingman wrote in news:d- : Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth. So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor? |
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On 03/09/2012 06:02 PM, Swingman wrote:
On 3/9/2012 5:54 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Swingman wrote: On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container... Damn ... that even gagged a coonass! Ummmmmm... and that aroma... Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... (key is plenty of cerveza and lime juice) Ackchooly, the primo ingredient in menudo soup is tripe (critter tummy). How it was harvested isn't part of the recipe. -- "Socialism is a philosophy of failure,the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery" -Winston Churchill |
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"John Grossbohlin" wrote in
m: "Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. Swingman wrote in news:d- : Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth. So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor? Depends on the food. For salmon, I prefer hickory; for pork, apple; but for beef, nothing, nothing, NOTHING beats mesquite. SWMBO and I both enjoy venison with either hickory or mesquite. |
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"Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. "John Grossbohlin" wrote in m: "Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. Swingman wrote in news:d- : Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth. So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor? Depends on the food. For salmon, I prefer hickory; for pork, apple; but for beef, nothing, nothing, NOTHING beats mesquite. SWMBO and I both enjoy venison with either hickory or mesquite. We often end up putting whitetail venison on the gas grill after a soak in State Fair Speedy Sauce... except the back strap and tenderloin that is! |
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"Swingman" wrote in message
... On 3/9/2012 4:10 PM, Mike Marlow wrote: Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Not a chance - unless you like venison soup - right out of the container... Damn ... that even gagged a coonass! Candyass! Sorta made me want to get a spoon and a straw. Dave in Texas |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael
wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike I'm not interesting in doing it. The state though, has people on a list that take the deer and make good use of it. State laws will vary with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless shelters and soup kitchens. |
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On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined. We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job easier. Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine Read it and weep, bubba. That said, roadkill is nasty. The side of the road is the best place for it. Amen. And I love the new (to me) term, "flattened fauna", don't you? -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. |
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Ralph Compton wrote:
And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows. Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay a mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan (who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe. -- -Mike- |
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On Fri, 09 Mar 2012 22:42:34 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike I'm not interesting in doing it. The state though, has people on a list that take the deer and make good use of it. State laws will vary with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless shelters and soup kitchens. Around here, everyone takes it to (or has it picked up by) the Wildlife Images park. http://www.wildlifeimages.org/ Clark is my fave kitty, a bigass cougar. -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. |
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Doug Miller wrote:
Swingman wrote in news:d- : Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth. Thankfully - a voice of reason... -- -Mike- |
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John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. Swingman wrote in news:d- : Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth. So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor? Cow chips - before they get lit on fire... -- -Mike- |
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John Grossbohlin wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message . .. Swingman wrote in news:d- : Judging from the smell, real honest to bueno, cooked-fresh-in-rural-Mexico, Menudo is indeed made from overripe roadkill ... at least that is exactly what it smells like on the way past your nose to your lips. That said, if you can ever get it past those lips ... And that, my friend, is exactly the reason that God put the nose right above the mouth. So what kind of wood/smoke yields the best flavor? Pussy willow... -- -Mike- |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? No, and I love venison. But the people who hit deer usually butcher them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined. We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. Then we drag them through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher them. Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they don't get dragged very far these days. I have technology to make that job easier. Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an eagle. Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine Read it and weep, bubba. Your point bubba? -- -Mike- |
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"Mike Marlow" wrote in message ... Ralph Compton wrote: And I suspect this goes on a lot more often than anyone knows. Not all that likely. Most people who know anything about this stuff stay a mile away from road kill. Sure enough, someone is going to raise the one-off story about a friend of a friend who took a road kill - or a Texan (who are well known for taking armadillo off the shoulder of the road for family Bar-B-Que), and that's exactly what it is - the one-off story. You really should believe that it goes on a lot less than you might believe. There is fresh road kill and there is road kill... ;~) When I worked at Colonial Williamsburg road kill opossum and other critters would end up in the restored area interpretive kitchens. ;~) |
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On Mar 9, 11:16*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 17:13:59 -0500, "Mike Marlow" wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? No, and I love venison. *But the people who hit deer usually butcher them in the woods, while it's fresh and uncontaminated by feces. Urban neighbors and trash men seem to have a thing about antlers and rotting guts in the trashcans, too. Plus, it's illegal in some states to harvest it without a hunting license, so you could be fined. We field dress them in the woods - not butcher them. *Then we drag them through everything on the ground, to get them home to wash them and butcher them. *Mine do get washed very well once they get home, and actually, they don't get dragged very far these days. *I have technology to make that job easier. Not illegal to take roadkill in any state, unless it's something like an eagle. *Roadkill is not hunting and that is what is goverened by states. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadkill_cuisine Read it and weep, bubba. That said, roadkill is nasty. *The side of the road is the best place for it. Amen. *And I love the new (to me) term, "flattened fauna", don't you? -- Inside every older person is a younger person wondering WTF happened. From my grille to your grille |
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On Mar 9, 7:18*pm, Stuart wrote:
In article , * *Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet wrote: On 3/9/2012 4:43 PM, Stuart wrote: In article 28391070.603.1331317300221.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@ynel5, * * *wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? If I had the skill yes. Some years ago I hit a rabbit. I'll skip the details but the only damage appeared to be some blood round the eyes. Not to mention that it was dead, right? *LOL. Yes. What I meant was it wasn't mangled up in anyway. g OK, It happened like this. I was coming home from work after evening shift about 2310h. The track from the transmitting station was steep, twisty and unlit. I came round a bend and this rabbit was sitting in the middle of the road. I guess it was transfixed by my lights as it didn't move and I couldn't avoid it. I tried to drive over it with my wheels each side of it but as I went over it I heard a bump. I stopped the car, looked round and found it on the verge. I suspect it tried to hop away but hit its head on the underside of the car.. -- Stuart Winsor Only plain text for emailshttp://www.asciiribbon.org Those wabbits aren't too bright then, eh? |
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On Mar 9, 10:42*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 10:21:40 -0800 (PST), Michael wrote: Hypothetically, if you hit a deer while driving, would you be tempted to take it home and butcher it? Mike I'm not interesting in doing it. *The state though, has people on a list that take the deer and make good use of it. *State laws will vary with what you are allowed to do, but some use the meat for homeless shelters and soup kitchens. That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning, packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people around christmas. |
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On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 03:33:27 -0800 (PST), Robatoy
That's how a fair bit of the freshly reported roadkill is handled here. Often volunteer cops or smoke-eaters will do the cleaning, packaging and if taken in the fall, frozen and distributed to people around christmas. I remember reading about authorities on the US side of lake Ontario shooting the marauding Canada geese, cooking them up and serving them to the homeless. Good for them. I hate those damned birds. Last time I went down to Toronto Island over ten years ago, you couldn't go two feet in any direction without stepping in goose ****. Those damned birds are protected over here. Stupidest law on the books. http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories...meless-110624/ |
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