As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:43:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote:

As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

FINALLY: Something which will cost -more- than a Festeringtool!
(but less than a Pagani Zonda)


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we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we
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On Aug 28, 7:43*pm, Robatoy wrote:
As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

Left me with more questions than answers. Though for that
commercial, they should have spent another $5 and at least finished
the top of the cabinets. (Hint: Look at the top of the cabinet under
the cook-top.)

Allen

"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8


Pretty darn cool.

Robatoy wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a-
:

As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware
such as an induction system.
Maar, potjandorie, Rob!!
Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and
where to buy?

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Han
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On 8/29/2010 10:18 AM, Han wrote:
wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a-
:

As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware
such as an induction system.
Maar, potjandorie, Rob!!
Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and
where to buy?

It appears "concept only" at this stage of the game.

Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove,
that one did pique my interest.

After all, we do like cooking gadgets, and that appears to the Mother of
them ALL.


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On Aug 29, 11:18*am, Han wrote:
Robatoy wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a-
:

As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware
such as an induction system. *
Maar, potjandorie, Rob!! *
Where is there more info than the Youtube video? *Such as how much and
where to buy?

--
Best regards
Han
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Niet zo ongeduldig! Wait 5 years and they will go the way of plasma
TV. The pricing is up against that phenomenon called: "Screw that, too
rich for my blood, a $ 500.00 unit looks just as nice and when do WE
ever need 21 different pots and pans." Or this old chestnut: "Too much
can go wrong."
Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

On 8/29/2010 10:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 8/29/2010 10:18 AM, Han wrote:
wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a-
:

As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware
such as an induction system.
Maar, potjandorie, Rob!!
Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and
where to buy?

It appears "concept only" at this stage of the game.

Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove, that one
did pique my interest.

After all, we do like cooking gadgets, and that appears to the Mother of them
ALL.

How about a similar concept, but with a honeycomb of little gas burners?
Probably be a BITCH to clean though...

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On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:

Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a
cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed
that is twice that.

(I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William"
might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with
it.)

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:03:52 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:

Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a
cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed
that is twice that.

The range we're looking at is a bit over $2500 but it'll cost around $1000 to
get gas to it (the propane tank is on the opposite end of the house). We're
debating whether it's worth it, or just stay with an electric range, also
$2500. $3500 isn't out of sight, though I'd be afraid of its reliability
around lightning.

(I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William"
might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with
it.)

Steve Turner wrote in news:i5duhq$2qi$2
@news.eternal-september.org:

How about a similar concept, but with a honeycomb of little gas burners?
Probably be a BITCH to clean though...

Gas burners are self cleaning ...

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Han
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Swingman wrote in
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On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:

Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a
cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed
that is twice that.

(I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William"
might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with
it.)

Go for it, Karl!!

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 8/29/2010 11:43 AM, Han wrote:
wrote in
news
On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:

Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a
cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed
that is twice that.

(I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William"
might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with
it.)

Go for it, Karl!!

LOL ... it was tempting. But, there have been too many changes on this
job already (there is a high dollar "designer" who's whims must be
appeased, despite the impossibility thereof), and the range is purchased.

AAMOF, I'm picking up the vent liner and motor blower on Monday in
preparation for building the vent hood cabinet, which is going to be a
PITA ... I HATE the idea of building a frameless Euro style cabinet
enclosing that kind of baggage, but it's all the rage, donchaknow!

It's always something ...

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Swingman wrote in news:TKmdnS8rJrE4C-
:

AAMOF, I'm picking up the vent liner and motor blower on Monday in
preparation for building the vent hood cabinet, which is going to be a
PITA ... I HATE the idea of building a frameless Euro style cabinet
enclosing that kind of baggage, but it's all the rage, donchaknow!

In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small), and
the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going up in the
cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We never have
enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell!

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Han
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On 8/29/2010 12:23 PM, Han wrote:

In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small), and
the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going up in the
cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We never have
enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell!

I fully expect this to be the case with regard to noise, as it is
1200cfm inline blower. Wish I had a tape recording of the conversation
regarding using an exterior blower instead, which the "designer" poo
poohed.

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Swingman wrote in
:

On 8/29/2010 12:23 PM, Han wrote:

In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small),
and the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going
up in the cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We
never have enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell!

I fully expect this to be the case with regard to noise, as it is
1200cfm inline blower. Wish I had a tape recording of the conversation
regarding using an exterior blower instead, which the "designer" poo
poohed.

I discussed a different fan (and larger duct) with the coinstruction
artists, but no luck booh.

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Han
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"Robatoy" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 11:18 am, Han wrote:
Robatoy wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a-
:

As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8

I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new
cookware
such as an induction system.
Maar, potjandorie, Rob!!
Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and
where to buy?

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

Niet zo ongeduldig! Wait 5 years and they will go the way of plasma
TV. The pricing is up against that phenomenon called: "Screw that, too
rich for my blood, a $ 500.00 unit looks just as nice and when do WE
ever need 21 different pots and pans." Or this old chestnut: "Too much
can go wrong."
Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

I think that is probably a good guess.

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:03:52 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:

Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME)
they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short,
honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the
gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long.
My guess? $ 3500.00 initially.

I'll bet they're more.


Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a
cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed
that is twice that.

I blinked heavily when the front office gal at the dentist's office
said she wanted $2,243 to do a root canal, post'n'prep, and porcelain
w/ high noble crown on -one- tooth. My jaw is still bruised.

I may wear a mask and go armed into the next medical office. Two can
play that game, eh?

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If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do,
we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we
cannot do. -- Samuel Butler

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:34:33 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 8/29/2010 12:23 PM, Han wrote:

In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small), and
the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going up in the
cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We never have
enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell!

I fully expect this to be the case with regard to noise, as it is
1200cfm inline blower. Wish I had a tape recording of the conversation
regarding using an exterior blower instead, which the "designer" poo
poohed.

I hope you have in in writing on the estimates or designer
conversation letters that you were against internals.

--
If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do,
we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we
cannot do. -- Samuel Butler

"Swingman" wrote:

Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove,
that one did pique my interest.
---------------------

Same with this buckeye.

Lew

"Swingman" wrote

AAMOF, I'm picking up the vent liner and motor blower on Monday in
preparation for building the vent hood cabinet, which is going to be a
PITA ... I HATE the idea of building a frameless Euro style cabinet
enclosing that kind of baggage, but it's all the rage, donchaknow!

Brings back memories.

I had to install a "replacement" microwave into a cabinet in my last house.
This included the vent and blower for the stove unit below. Supposedly, you
could just pull out the old one and stick in the new one. Perhaps in dreams
that would happen. But not in the real world

The biggest problem was that the vent from the microwave was in a different
location than the old one. I had to build, from sheet metal, a new vent. To
port the new vent to the old hole going out of the wall.

It took about a half hour to pull out the old unit and get the area cleaned
up. It took a whole day of screwing around and fabricating parts with
minimal tooling to get the new unit installed. It was nice when it was all
done. But it was a bitch to install.

I never pay attention to fantasies of "Easy Installs" any more.

On Aug 29, 4:43*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Swingman" wrote:
Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove,
that one did pique my interest.

---------------------

Same with this buckeye.

Lew

Same with this Canuck.

On 8/29/2010 2:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

I hope you have in in writing on the estimates or designer
conversation letters that you were against internals.

Haven't lived this long being naive, C-less ... everything is spec'ed,
then built to spec ... you be sure and do the same, cher.

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On Aug 29, 3:35*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote:


I blinked heavily when the front office gal at the dentist's office
said she wanted $2,243 to do a root canal, post'n'prep, and porcelain
w/ high noble crown on -one- tooth.

That would seem a fair price for the oft overlooked Optical/Rectal
severance surgery. You know the one. The surgery that improves one's
****ty outlook?

On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 16:39:56 -0500, Swingman wrote:

On 8/29/2010 2:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

I hope you have in in writing on the estimates or designer
conversation letters that you were against internals.

Haven't lived this long being naive, C-less ... everything is spec'ed,
then built to spec ... you be sure and do the same, cher.

You betcha, ma petite.

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If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do,
we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we
cannot do. -- Samuel Butler