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The William cooktop
As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens,
here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 |
The William cooktop
On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:43:29 -0700 (PDT), Robatoy
wrote: As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 FINALLY: Something which will cost -more- than a Festeringtool! (but less than a Pagani Zonda) -- If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do. -- Samuel Butler |
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On Aug 28, 7:43*pm, Robatoy wrote:
As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 Left me with more questions than answers. Though for that commercial, they should have spent another $5 and at least finished the top of the cabinets. (Hint: Look at the top of the cabinet under the cook-top.) Allen |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 Pretty darn cool. |
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On 8/29/2010 10:18 AM, Han wrote:
wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a- : As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware such as an induction system. Maar, potjandorie, Rob!! Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and where to buy? It appears "concept only" at this stage of the game. Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove, that one did pique my interest. After all, we do like cooking gadgets, and that appears to the Mother of them ALL. ;) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Aug 29, 11:18*am, Han wrote:
Robatoy wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a- : As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware such as an induction system. * Maar, potjandorie, Rob!! * Where is there more info than the Youtube video? *Such as how much and where to buy? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid Niet zo ongeduldig! Wait 5 years and they will go the way of plasma TV. The pricing is up against that phenomenon called: "Screw that, too rich for my blood, a $ 500.00 unit looks just as nice and when do WE ever need 21 different pots and pans." Or this old chestnut: "Too much can go wrong." Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. |
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On 8/29/2010 10:29 AM, Swingman wrote:
On 8/29/2010 10:18 AM, Han wrote: wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a- : As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware such as an induction system. Maar, potjandorie, Rob!! Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and where to buy? It appears "concept only" at this stage of the game. Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove, that one did pique my interest. After all, we do like cooking gadgets, and that appears to the Mother of them ALL. ;) How about a similar concept, but with a honeycomb of little gas burners? Probably be a BITCH to clean though... -- See Nad. See Nad go. Go Nad! To reply, eat the taco. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bbqboyee/ |
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On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote:
Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed that is twice that. (I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William" might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with it.) ;) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:03:52 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote: Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed that is twice that. The range we're looking at is a bit over $2500 but it'll cost around $1000 to get gas to it (the propane tank is on the opposite end of the house). We're debating whether it's worth it, or just stay with an electric range, also $2500. $3500 isn't out of sight, though I'd be afraid of its reliability around lightning. (I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William" might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with it.) ;) |
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Steve Turner wrote in news:i5duhq$2qi$2
@news.eternal-september.org: How about a similar concept, but with a honeycomb of little gas burners? Probably be a BITCH to clean though... Gas burners are self cleaning ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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Swingman wrote in
: On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote: Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed that is twice that. (I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William" might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with it.) ;) Go for it, Karl!! -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On 8/29/2010 11:43 AM, Han wrote:
wrote in : On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote: Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed that is twice that. (I was tempted to send them the video last night to see it "The William" might be of interest in lieu of the Capital ... I just want to play with it.) ;) Go for it, Karl!! LOL ... it was tempting. But, there have been too many changes on this job already (there is a high dollar "designer" who's whims must be appeased, despite the impossibility thereof), and the range is purchased. AAMOF, I'm picking up the vent liner and motor blower on Monday in preparation for building the vent hood cabinet, which is going to be a PITA ... I HATE the idea of building a frameless Euro style cabinet enclosing that kind of baggage, but it's all the rage, donchaknow! It's always something ... -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On 8/29/2010 12:23 PM, Han wrote:
In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small), and the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going up in the cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We never have enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell! I fully expect this to be the case with regard to noise, as it is 1200cfm inline blower. Wish I had a tape recording of the conversation regarding using an exterior blower instead, which the "designer" poo poohed. :( -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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Swingman wrote in
: On 8/29/2010 12:23 PM, Han wrote: In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small), and the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going up in the cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We never have enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell! I fully expect this to be the case with regard to noise, as it is 1200cfm inline blower. Wish I had a tape recording of the conversation regarding using an exterior blower instead, which the "designer" poo poohed. :( I discussed a different fan (and larger duct) with the coinstruction artists, but no luck booh. -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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"Robatoy" wrote in message ... On Aug 29, 11:18 am, Han wrote: Robatoy wrote in news:b7a5c998-8d59-4536-9b5a- : As there are quite a few woodworkers here involved with kitchens, here's a new toy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wBe3SDCcz8 I like the idea, especially since it doesn't require me to buy new cookware such as an induction system. Maar, potjandorie, Rob!! Where is there more info than the Youtube video? Such as how much and where to buy? -- Best regards Han email address is invalid Niet zo ongeduldig! Wait 5 years and they will go the way of plasma TV. The pricing is up against that phenomenon called: "Screw that, too rich for my blood, a $ 500.00 unit looks just as nice and when do WE ever need 21 different pots and pans." Or this old chestnut: "Too much can go wrong." Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. I think that is probably a good guess. |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:03:52 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 8/29/2010 10:31 AM, Robatoy wrote: Once the tooling matrixes and silkscreens are paid for (no biggie IME) they have to be able to sell them. I expect an expensive, but short, honeymoon, then a serious price drop IF the thing even gets out of the gate. You can charge only SO much for 'cool' for only SO long. My guess? $ 3500.00 initially. I'll bet they're more. Agreed ... but lot's folks don't seem to blink at $3.5k these days for a cooktop. Current kitchen job has a 48" Capital gas range being installed that is twice that. I blinked heavily when the front office gal at the dentist's office said she wanted $2,243 to do a root canal, post'n'prep, and porcelain w/ high noble crown on -one- tooth. My jaw is still bruised. I may wear a mask and go armed into the next medical office. Two can play that game, eh? ;) -- If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do. -- Samuel Butler |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 12:34:33 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 8/29/2010 12:23 PM, Han wrote: In 2002 we redid the kitchen (kitchenlet, since it is really small), and the GE stove + microwave with exhaust had to be vented by going up in the cabinet above, then through the ceiling to the outside. We never have enough real suction there and it's noisy as hell! I fully expect this to be the case with regard to noise, as it is 1200cfm inline blower. Wish I had a tape recording of the conversation regarding using an exterior blower instead, which the "designer" poo poohed. :( I hope you have in in writing on the estimates or designer conversation letters that you were against internals. -- If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do. -- Samuel Butler |
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"Swingman" wrote: Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove, that one did pique my interest. --------------------- Same with this buckeye. Lew |
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"Swingman" wrote AAMOF, I'm picking up the vent liner and motor blower on Monday in preparation for building the vent hood cabinet, which is going to be a PITA ... I HATE the idea of building a frameless Euro style cabinet enclosing that kind of baggage, but it's all the rage, donchaknow! Brings back memories. I had to install a "replacement" microwave into a cabinet in my last house. This included the vent and blower for the stove unit below. Supposedly, you could just pull out the old one and stick in the new one. Perhaps in dreams that would happen. But not in the real world The biggest problem was that the vent from the microwave was in a different location than the old one. I had to build, from sheet metal, a new vent. To port the new vent to the old hole going out of the wall. It took about a half hour to pull out the old unit and get the area cleaned up. It took a whole day of screwing around and fabricating parts with minimal tooling to get the new unit installed. It was nice when it was all done. But it was a bitch to install. I never pay attention to fantasies of "Easy Installs" any more. |
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On Aug 29, 4:43*pm, "Lew Hodgett" wrote:
"Swingman" wrote: Although no self respecting coonass would cook on an electric stove, that one did pique my interest. --------------------- Same with this buckeye. Lew Same with this Canuck. |
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On 8/29/2010 2:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
I hope you have in in writing on the estimates or designer conversation letters that you were against internals. Haven't lived this long being naive, C-less ... everything is spec'ed, then built to spec ... you be sure and do the same, cher. ;) -- www.e-woodshop.net Last update: 4/15/2010 KarlC@ (the obvious) |
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On Aug 29, 3:35*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote: I blinked heavily when the front office gal at the dentist's office said she wanted $2,243 to do a root canal, post'n'prep, and porcelain w/ high noble crown on -one- tooth. That would seem a fair price for the oft overlooked Optical/Rectal severance surgery. You know the one. The surgery that improves one's ****ty outlook? |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2010 16:39:56 -0500, Swingman wrote:
On 8/29/2010 2:39 PM, Larry Jaques wrote: I hope you have in in writing on the estimates or designer conversation letters that you were against internals. Haven't lived this long being naive, C-less ... everything is spec'ed, then built to spec ... you be sure and do the same, cher. ;) You betcha, ma petite. ;) -- If we attend continually and promptly to the little that we can do, we shall ere long be surprised to find how little remains that we cannot do. -- Samuel Butler |
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