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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to
get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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I installed a retractable reel about a week ago but will be relocating
it from near the compressor to nearly the center of the shop, because there is only about 21' feet of hose which gets caught up on the TS and other equipment when I drag it over to the workbench on the wall opposite the reel. Five wall cabinets to hold and hide lots of stuff! Plus keep most of the dust off those items. An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. Can I give more than three? Here goes: painted the walls semi-gloss white. Lot's of light: 11 4 foot fluorescents in a two car "studio" g Weather striped the door to stop drafts; the shop is much warmer in the winter because of that one improvement. Just added a TV last week to supplement the CD player, cassette player/radio. What I'd like to have but won't (do to one thing or another) 1. Utility basin 2. A John 3. more R-O-O-M 4. higher ceiling 5. wood floor dave Rich Stern wrote: I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote:
SNIP An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. SNIP Where did you find retractable reel at what cost? |
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flip up disk/belt sander and osilating sander, when down it is just the
miter station extension heat and AC lots of cabinets, a specific place for everything... well eventually, I need 2 more cabinets. my next 3; utility sink, real workbench, overhead air reel in the shop and another in the garage. BRuce Rich Stern wrote: I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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Sears has them for about 15 - 30 bux.
"jev" wrote in message ... On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote: SNIP An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. SNIP Where did you find retractable reel at what cost? |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
jev wrote:
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote: SNIP An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. SNIP Where did you find retractable reel at what cost? I can concur with the retractabel reel. Just do not let the cord whiplash back into the reel. The Sears version will eventually break. Mine did after about 1 year of use. Had to buy another one. |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
1) Rearranging my shop so the tablesaw was at the end and not in the middle
(gave me way more room). 2) Hung power cords across the ceiling and dropped down to tool areas (keeps cables off the floor) -- I know, I know against code, but I have to build a shed to put my outdoor crap in and then I can make my shop permanent -- I'll run conduit at that point 3) Snagged a heavy duty table/cabinet with shelves underneath for free and use it as my assembly table. 3a) Keep my shop clean. Now when I have 30-60 min to spare instead of looking at a pile of tools everywhere and thinking "That'll take 30-40min just to clean up and give me space to work" I just start working. Ahh...I love it -- thanks for the advice Tom Plamman! Mike "Rich Stern" wrote in message ... What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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"Rich Stern" wrote in message ... I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? 1) Put the less used machinery on wheels - made room for more machines! 2) Cleaned it right to the corners! (4 yrs late) 3) Moved clamps/finishing/sanding supplies and equipment directly adjacent to the assembly area, rather than the "efficient use of space" place that they previously occupied. 4 Moved most of my remodeling equipment/tools to a shed... who needs two portable tablesaws (in addition to the 3 hp cabinet saw) in their shop anyway??? |
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sears, for $29.95 on sale. same exact model that a favorite mail order
company of the Wreckers sells for $54.50. Hint: it's a Canadian company Hint number 2: The item is on page 222 of the 2003-2004 catalog. dave dave jev wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote: SNIP An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. SNIP Where did you find retractable reel at what cost? |
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Stop letting the kids play jump rope with it!
dave JAW wrote: jev wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote: SNIP An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. SNIP Where did you find retractable reel at what cost? I can concur with the retractabel reel. Just do not let the cord whiplash back into the reel. The Sears version will eventually break. Mine did after about 1 year of use. Had to buy another one. |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
1. A space-saving tool cabinet that opens up. This organizes my hand
tools where I need them. Maybe not easy, but it was fun to build. 2. Installed 7 electical circuits (one circuit is 220v) with lots of outlets. I put an outlet every 4 feet, plus a few about waist high and overhead. Like clamps, you can't have too many outlets. No more sanding and pulling the plug out! 3. Finishing the walls (drywall). I finished my walls just like it was a living space, except I installed beefier baseboards to take the abuse. Painted the trim and walls white. Makes cleanup easy and adds needed light. |
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Yikes! I just spent $1500 on mine. Then again, it is a Snap-on unit.
B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote: On 06 Feb 2004 04:38:59 GMT, (Rich Stern) wrote: 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. I'm with ya' brother! Every once and a while, I pick up bottom sections with wheels from Sears. Add a rubber or wood mat on top, and you have a great shop assistant. The chests can roll righ to the tools and provide easy access to router bits, saw jigs, measuring and marking tools, etc... The most I've ever paid was $175, on sale, for an 8 drawer unit. I'm up to 4 of them, with one top unit. Barry |
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The kids are at an age to where they need less of my attention and I can
get back to woodworking, so: 1) Move the bike hobby off to one corner of the shop. www.bunchobikes.com 2) Buy two tool boxes. ( Actually, one was a gift. ) A Snap-on for the "mechanical" type of tools and a Craftsman for wood working tools exclusively. 3) Addition of some new items. Mostly a Delta 6" jointer. Also a sliding mill table to modify and improve the "drill press attachment" Delta mortiser. Lights, outlets, benches and storage were the first things I created years ago. I make my living as a mechanic and one thing I can't stand is working with a drop light. So there are more flourescents than anyone should be allowed to have! Rich Stern wrote: I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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On 6 Feb 2004 08:19:05 -0600, jev
wrote: On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 06:07:04 GMT, Bay Area Dave wrote: SNIP An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. SNIP Where did you find retractable reel at what cost? I got mine at Auto Zone and I think it was about $29. If you dont have Auto Zone in your area, check whatever passes for auto parts store. |
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On 06 Feb 2004 15:08:56 EST, Mark and Kim Smith
wrote: Yikes! I just spent $1500 on mine. Then again, it is a Snap-on unit. Mine honestly aren't anywhere near Snap-On quality, but I think they're plenty adequate. Barry |
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just got done moving the air hose reel from the wall opposite my work
bench, to overhead, near the bench. Why didn't I install one years ago??? Used 1/2" "L" copper pipe. Was a breeze to install except for getting to one of the mounting screws behind the reel. Attacked it with a quarter inch ratchet and ultra short phillips bit. dave Rich Stern wrote: I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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3) Lumber rack with integrated chopsaw (miter saw) station. ^^^^^ Would love to see a pic of this. |
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"Rich Stern" wrote in message
... What are your best three easy imrpovements? 1) Better lighting through white painted walls/floor. I can find dropped hardware and there is no concrete dust in my lungs any more. Whew! 2) Assembly table with cabinet storage underneath. I store all my abrasives (few), cleaners (many) and cauls there. Te room in the middle will soon be an additional pair of shelves. The 5" casters will roll over a tuba fore if needed. I'll be redoing the side- mounted clamp posts into a vertical clamp cart, also on 5" casters. (Side mounting made the cart unstable.) 3) I'm in the process of building cabinets to store all my tools to keep them in easy reach. ================================================== ========= Save the Endangered Boullions from being cubed! http://www.diversify.com/stees.html Hilarious T-shirts online ================================================== ========= |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
My "shop" is my two-car garage, so every square inch is precious.
Best four improvements: 1. Wall-mounted lumber rack 2. Retractable power cord (overhead installation) 3. Putting bench saw, power mitre saw and router table on moveable bases. 4. Built large shelf unit (half of one wall) using 1" x 12"s. (Holds lots of stuff) |
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Why the wood floor Dave and is this in preference to concrete ? I am =
about to set up a new shop and wondered what was better. Puff "Bay Area Dave" wrote in message = m... I installed a retractable reel about a week ago but will be relocating = it from near the compressor to nearly the center of the shop, because=20 there is only about 21' feet of hose which gets caught up on the TS = and=20 other equipment when I drag it over to the workbench on the wall=20 opposite the reel. =20 Five wall cabinets to hold and hide lots of stuff! Plus keep most of=20 the dust off those items. =20 An overhead retractable 110V cord with a 3-outlet molded plug. =20 Can I give more than three? Here goes: =20 painted the walls semi-gloss white. =20 Lot's of light: 11 4 foot fluorescents in a two car "studio" g =20 Weather striped the door to stop drafts; the shop is much warmer in = the=20 winter because of that one improvement. =20 Just added a TV last week to supplement the CD player, cassette=20 player/radio. =20 =20 What I'd like to have but won't (do to one thing or another) =20 1. Utility basin 2. A John 3. more R-O-O-M 4. higher ceiling 5. wood floor =20 =20 =20 dave =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Rich Stern wrote: =20 I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff = around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about = changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the = successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: =20 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck = did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable = compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can = disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, = or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a = blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, = but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. =20 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my = semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from = station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go = faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and = projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, = scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space = around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. =20 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low = end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, = screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the = thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. = Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. =20 What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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B a r r y B u r k e J r . wrote:
On 06 Feb 2004 15:08:56 EST, Mark and Kim Smith wrote: Yikes! I just spent $1500 on mine. Then again, it is a Snap-on unit. Mine honestly aren't anywhere near Snap-On quality, but I think they're plenty adequate. Barry Hi Barry, I hope you don't think I was knocking your tool boxes, as I certainly wasn't! I was just bragging a bit. The important part is that the box holds what it's supposed to and you are satisfied with it! Besides, that Snap-on I have is a baby compared to my "train"! www.bunchobikes.com/mac5.jpg Throw in a couple of cheapie Craftsman for other uses and I'll have more boxes than I'll know what to do with when I retire!! |
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Hmmmm, a couple of questions. What pressure are you running your air
system at and does anyone know the pressure rating of "L" copper?? Bay Area Dave wrote: just got done moving the air hose reel from the wall opposite my work bench, to overhead, near the bench. Why didn't I install one years ago??? Used 1/2" "L" copper pipe. Was a breeze to install except for getting to one of the mounting screws behind the reel. Attacked it with a quarter inch ratchet and ultra short phillips bit. dave Rich Stern wrote: I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message ... 1) Move the bike hobby off to one corner of the shop. www.bunchobikes.com OOH OOH OOH. A Schwinn Stingray! Man, I saved my paper route money for a long time to buy mine! Mine was red, though. How I wish I would have tucked that away somewhere instead of selling it when I started riding dirtbikes. Mark, how much are those things worth these days? |
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Keith Carlson wrote:
"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message ... 1) Move the bike hobby off to one corner of the shop. www.bunchobikes.com OOH OOH OOH. A Schwinn Stingray! Man, I saved my paper route money for a long time to buy mine! Mine was red, though. How I wish I would have tucked that away somewhere instead of selling it when I started riding dirtbikes. Mark, how much are those things worth these days? A Fastback, like I have, in decent condition will hit $300. The earlier the Stingrays, the more they will bring. An early 63-64 with a first year only paint job brought $4000 on eBay recently. Krates will regularly bring $800- $2000. These are averages. |
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On 06 Feb 2004 21:45:04 EST, Mark and Kim Smith
wrote: I hope you don't think I was knocking your tool boxes, as I certainly wasn't! Not at all! G Barry |
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On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 04:04:37 GMT, "Keith Carlson"
wrote: OOH OOH OOH. A Schwinn Stingray! Man, I saved my paper route money for a long time to buy mine! Mine was red, though. How I wish I would have tucked that away somewhere instead of selling it when I started riding dirtbikes. A guy that frequents our bike shop has a few crates. We currently have one of his Orange Crates on display, complete with an original store poster behind it. Ah, the memories! G Barry |
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Puff Griffis wrote:
Why the wood floor Dave and is this in preference to concrete ? I am about to set up a new shop and wondered what was better. Puff Wood floors are easier on the feet and legs. It does not seem like much, but there is a big difference. New floors are not always practilal, but rubber mats whee yo stand the ost are a big help. Two or thee are a "must" in a good shop. In front of the bench, in front of the sander, the band saw, the table saw. -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome |
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The pic is on the way to your email box.
On Fri, 06 Feb 2004 22:42:30 GMT, "Rob V" wrote: 3) Lumber rack with integrated chopsaw (miter saw) station. ^^^^^ Would love to see a pic of this. |
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Why the wood floor Dave and is this in preference to concrete ? I am about to set up a new shop and wondered what was better.
You are asking this is a wood news group? Seriously, concrete is hard on the bones & cold. Got mats from CostCo. Really like them but hard to sweep up; so's I don't. Except Mama.....never mind. If you afford it, go with wood floors. |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
I'd really, really, like to reorganize my shop for better efficency. Its
the basement, divided into 3 areas currently. One corner was a darkroom/laundry area. No darkroom now, and I plan to make the laundry area smaller to enclosed the washer/dryer/tub acessible by bifold doors. There is a dividing wall along the middle of the basement, running alongside furnace and hot water heater. On my "shop" side (dirty side), I cram a workbench, a tool cabinet, table saw, band saw, drill press, and soon, a jointer. The table saw is on wheels. The Band saw and drill press will soon be. The jointer will be too. On the floor under shelving, I have my planer, drill doctor case, plate joiner case, a small electric heater, shop vac, a model plane in progress, and a couple of small rubbermaid tubs. On the other side of the shop around the furnace, I have 3 rubber maid "wrap and store" containers for my model airplane cover, a 6' high wheeled rack for model airplane wood sheets, a roll around upright rack for model airplane wood sticks, a couple of boxes of stuff, some rolls a of naughahyde, and lots of wood leaning against the water heater. Plus a rolling toobox and air compressor. The other half of the basement (which has the laundry corner), I have a 4x8 table intended for building parts of my full size plane when I get to it. One wall holds model airplanes. Another wall is taken up by steel shelving, the 3rd wall has shelving, my reloading bench, a gun safe, and a plastic desk holding my miscellanous hunting stuff (clothes, cases, etc). Next to the laundry corner are 2 plastic shelving units, a half size metal shelf, basement dehumidifier, and miscellanous stuff. So yeah, things are tight. And no, I don't have a garage! I need storage! agh! John |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
This is initially going to sound crazy but here goes.
Grade school kids brooms "huge vacuum cleaner" (their term for "dust collector"). Now the words - kids, cleaning, dusting - and the phrase "tidying" up don't normally go together - when they're at home. But in a SHOP... Maybe it's ALL THAT POWER - dust collector's muted roar, the sound of a large volume of air being sucked into a four inch hose, the way things magically disappear as the end of the hose approaches them or the sound of small pieces of all sorts of things rattling their way through the pipes on their way to who knows where. All of my "stationary" tools are on wheels and normally reside against a wall. They get pulled out when used and push back when done - leaving wood residue behind them. Out of sight, out of mind. But, after a kid, or a team of kids have sucked everything that they can reach into that four inch hose, they start looking UNDER and BEHIND things. In BIG VACUUM CLEANER mode, kids become prospectors searching for the Mother Load. Discovering all the sawdust that collects under a cabinet saw is a cause for squeeling rejoicing. That will prompt a search through my "sticks and dowel" storage tubes for an arm extender to get to the otherwise inaccessible sawdust. And like gold miners, they'll stick with "the gold vein" until it's all gone. When they discover more "treasures" behind the tools on wheels they'll hound you until you move them out of the way so they can continue their prospecting. After finding and taking care of everything the dust collector can handle, they find brooms and start sweeping small to medium cut offs into two or three piles - to be gone through for later "glue stuff together, use your imagination, sculpture/projects" The rejects go in a scrap box for kindling and "the good stuff" goes into each one's large zip lock stash bag. When "the room full of heavy stuff that generates sawdust" has been picked clean they move on to the "quiet gluing and bug spitting room" (bug spit to them is shellac to the rest of us - but bug spit sounds cooler). Here they can't use the HUGE VACUUM CLEANER - they know curlies will clog it up (earlier learning experience) - so it's brooms and brushes. The interesting curlies get saved for a future creative project and the rest get stuffed in a "fireplace fire starter stuff" bag. All those little pieces that dovetails and tenons create are each examined carefully for some wonderful use, the rejects going in a kindling box. As a bonus for me, they also find every nut, bolt, screw and anything else I'd dropped and couldn't find. Those go in the "stuff that was found and will be sorted out and put away later" can. One of these discoveries will prompt a "what's this and what's it for" question and one of my "too much information" lectures. I've learned to pay attention, so when their eyes start to glaze over I let them get back to The Hunt. In less than an hour the cleaning tornado moves on, other games to play. I'm left with a nice clean shop (it's still cluttered but relatively clean) bags of kids project parts, a bag of fire lighting curlies and a box of kindling. I'm also exhausted and inspired. Exhausted because I've had to mediate at least a dozen "he got to vacuum for 10 minutes and I only got to vacuum for a minute", "I found that first and she took it", "why can't I use the push broom this time?", "she says this is from a pin socket and I say it's from a tail socket" disputes. Exhausted because I've had to watch them like a hawk to keep them from bumping their heads while crawling under power equiptment searching for treasure, trying to move a wheeled cart supporting a disk and spindle sander away from the wall to get to who knows what behind it ... The inspiration comes from listening to all the wonderful ideas they have for a piece of scrap they found and saved. Inspired because they got me to look for useful stuff in what would otherwise be "just scrap". For those who'e had their teeth on edge, worrying about kids in the shop: The sharp handtools are in wall hanging tool cabinets behind a SCMS station and are out of reach of kids and, with the doors closed - out site, out of mind. All power tools are unplugged, and those that can be "locked down" are locked down BEFORE the human tornadoes get started. I've got one of those powerful magnates on a stick things and use it when emptying the cyclone garbage can - finding the iron bearing parts that shouldn't have been vacuumed up in the first place. To date there's been only one injury. While crawling around under the sliding table of my combination machine (a Robland X31 for the curious) looking for more sawdust to vacuum up, and despite my repeated "watch your head" warnings, one girl tried to get up while under the sliding table and dinged her eyebrow. That prompted a "que tip and peroxide - neopsorene - big gauze eyepatch with four big pieces of tape to hold it in place - just for dramatic effect - medical emergency production with an audience enjoying every act of the three act drama, The star of this production, with her "eye make up" was in all her glory, basking in the attention of her fans - "Does it really hurt bad?" - "You gonna have to get stitches?" - "Think you'll lose your eye?" Of course the tape and the gauze came off before she went home and her "gaping wound" lost some of it's shock value - a shiny neosporened eyebrow just isn't all that noteworthy. Maybe, in addition to eye protection, ear muffs rubber gloves and safety glasses, I should add a helmet or two. Nothing to buy, no slick jig or fixture, no new use for an existing tool- a single, free in terms of dollars, shop improvement. Clean shop and another one of those priceless experiences. charlie b |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 11:33:42 -0800, charlie b
wrote: This is initially going to sound crazy but here goes. Grade school kids brooms "huge vacuum cleaner" (their term for "dust collector"). Now the words - kids, cleaning, dusting - and the phrase "tidying" up don't normally go together - when they're at home. But in a SHOP... Maybe it's ALL THAT POWER - dust collector's muted roar, the sound of a large volume of air being sucked into a four inch hose, the way things magically disappear as the end of the hose approaches them or the sound of small pieces of all sorts of things rattling their way through the pipes on their way to who knows where. All of my "stationary" tools are on wheels and normally reside against a wall. They get pulled out when used and push back when done - leaving wood residue behind them. Out of sight, out of mind. But, after a kid, or a team of kids have sucked everything that they can reach into that four inch hose, they start looking UNDER and BEHIND things. In BIG VACUUM CLEANER mode, kids become prospectors searching for the Mother Load. Discovering all the sawdust that collects under a cabinet saw is a cause for squeeling rejoicing. That will prompt a search through my "sticks and dowel" storage tubes for an arm extender to get to the otherwise inaccessible sawdust. And like gold miners, they'll stick with "the gold vein" until it's all gone. When they discover more "treasures" behind the tools on wheels they'll hound you until you move them out of the way so they can continue their prospecting. After finding and taking care of everything the dust collector can handle, they find brooms and start sweeping small to medium cut offs into two or three piles - to be gone through for later "glue stuff together, use your imagination, sculpture/projects" The rejects go in a scrap box for kindling and "the good stuff" goes into each one's large zip lock stash bag. When "the room full of heavy stuff that generates sawdust" has been picked clean they move on to the "quiet gluing and bug spitting room" (bug spit to them is shellac to the rest of us - but bug spit sounds cooler). Here they can't use the HUGE VACUUM CLEANER - they know curlies will clog it up (earlier learning experience) - so it's brooms and brushes. The interesting curlies get saved for a future creative project and the rest get stuffed in a "fireplace fire starter stuff" bag. All those little pieces that dovetails and tenons create are each examined carefully for some wonderful use, the rejects going in a kindling box. As a bonus for me, they also find every nut, bolt, screw and anything else I'd dropped and couldn't find. Those go in the "stuff that was found and will be sorted out and put away later" can. One of these discoveries will prompt a "what's this and what's it for" question and one of my "too much information" lectures. I've learned to pay attention, so when their eyes start to glaze over I let them get back to The Hunt. In less than an hour the cleaning tornado moves on, other games to play. I'm left with a nice clean shop (it's still cluttered but relatively clean) bags of kids project parts, a bag of fire lighting curlies and a box of kindling. I'm also exhausted and inspired. Exhausted because I've had to mediate at least a dozen "he got to vacuum for 10 minutes and I only got to vacuum for a minute", "I found that first and she took it", "why can't I use the push broom this time?", "she says this is from a pin socket and I say it's from a tail socket" disputes. Exhausted because I've had to watch them like a hawk to keep them from bumping their heads while crawling under power equiptment searching for treasure, trying to move a wheeled cart supporting a disk and spindle sander away from the wall to get to who knows what behind it ... The inspiration comes from listening to all the wonderful ideas they have for a piece of scrap they found and saved. Inspired because they got me to look for useful stuff in what would otherwise be "just scrap". For those who'e had their teeth on edge, worrying about kids in the shop: The sharp handtools are in wall hanging tool cabinets behind a SCMS station and are out of reach of kids and, with the doors closed - out site, out of mind. All power tools are unplugged, and those that can be "locked down" are locked down BEFORE the human tornadoes get started. I've got one of those powerful magnates on a stick things and use it when emptying the cyclone garbage can - finding the iron bearing parts that shouldn't have been vacuumed up in the first place. To date there's been only one injury. While crawling around under the sliding table of my combination machine (a Robland X31 for the curious) looking for more sawdust to vacuum up, and despite my repeated "watch your head" warnings, one girl tried to get up while under the sliding table and dinged her eyebrow. That prompted a "que tip and peroxide - neopsorene - big gauze eyepatch with four big pieces of tape to hold it in place - just for dramatic effect - medical emergency production with an audience enjoying every act of the three act drama, The star of this production, with her "eye make up" was in all her glory, basking in the attention of her fans - "Does it really hurt bad?" - "You gonna have to get stitches?" - "Think you'll lose your eye?" Of course the tape and the gauze came off before she went home and her "gaping wound" lost some of it's shock value - a shiny neosporened eyebrow just isn't all that noteworthy. Maybe, in addition to eye protection, ear muffs rubber gloves and safety glasses, I should add a helmet or two. Nothing to buy, no slick jig or fixture, no new use for an existing tool- a single, free in terms of dollars, shop improvement. Clean shop and another one of those priceless experiences. charlie b Excellent reading. You're a hard act to follow. Joe |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
Now thats a drive by gloat if I ever heard one!
great read! Thanks _Rob "charlie b" wrote in message ... This is initially going to sound crazy but here goes. Grade school kids brooms "huge vacuum cleaner" (their term for "dust collector"). Now the words - kids, cleaning, dusting - and the phrase "tidying" up don't normally go together - when they're at home. But in a SHOP... Maybe it's ALL THAT POWER - dust collector's muted roar, the sound of a large volume of air being sucked into a four inch hose, the way things magically disappear as the end of the hose approaches them or the sound of small pieces of all sorts of things rattling their way through the pipes on their way to who knows where. All of my "stationary" tools are on wheels and normally reside against a wall. They get pulled out when used and push back when done - leaving wood residue behind them. Out of sight, out of mind. But, after a kid, or a team of kids have sucked everything that they can reach into that four inch hose, they start looking UNDER and BEHIND things. In BIG VACUUM CLEANER mode, kids become prospectors searching for the Mother Load. Discovering all the sawdust that collects under a cabinet saw is a cause for squeeling rejoicing. That will prompt a search through my "sticks and dowel" storage tubes for an arm extender to get to the otherwise inaccessible sawdust. And like gold miners, they'll stick with "the gold vein" until it's all gone. When they discover more "treasures" behind the tools on wheels they'll hound you until you move them out of the way so they can continue their prospecting. After finding and taking care of everything the dust collector can handle, they find brooms and start sweeping small to medium cut offs into two or three piles - to be gone through for later "glue stuff together, use your imagination, sculpture/projects" The rejects go in a scrap box for kindling and "the good stuff" goes into each one's large zip lock stash bag. When "the room full of heavy stuff that generates sawdust" has been picked clean they move on to the "quiet gluing and bug spitting room" (bug spit to them is shellac to the rest of us - but bug spit sounds cooler). Here they can't use the HUGE VACUUM CLEANER - they know curlies will clog it up (earlier learning experience) - so it's brooms and brushes. The interesting curlies get saved for a future creative project and the rest get stuffed in a "fireplace fire starter stuff" bag. All those little pieces that dovetails and tenons create are each examined carefully for some wonderful use, the rejects going in a kindling box. As a bonus for me, they also find every nut, bolt, screw and anything else I'd dropped and couldn't find. Those go in the "stuff that was found and will be sorted out and put away later" can. One of these discoveries will prompt a "what's this and what's it for" question and one of my "too much information" lectures. I've learned to pay attention, so when their eyes start to glaze over I let them get back to The Hunt. In less than an hour the cleaning tornado moves on, other games to play. I'm left with a nice clean shop (it's still cluttered but relatively clean) bags of kids project parts, a bag of fire lighting curlies and a box of kindling. I'm also exhausted and inspired. Exhausted because I've had to mediate at least a dozen "he got to vacuum for 10 minutes and I only got to vacuum for a minute", "I found that first and she took it", "why can't I use the push broom this time?", "she says this is from a pin socket and I say it's from a tail socket" disputes. Exhausted because I've had to watch them like a hawk to keep them from bumping their heads while crawling under power equiptment searching for treasure, trying to move a wheeled cart supporting a disk and spindle sander away from the wall to get to who knows what behind it ... The inspiration comes from listening to all the wonderful ideas they have for a piece of scrap they found and saved. Inspired because they got me to look for useful stuff in what would otherwise be "just scrap". For those who'e had their teeth on edge, worrying about kids in the shop: The sharp handtools are in wall hanging tool cabinets behind a SCMS station and are out of reach of kids and, with the doors closed - out site, out of mind. All power tools are unplugged, and those that can be "locked down" are locked down BEFORE the human tornadoes get started. I've got one of those powerful magnates on a stick things and use it when emptying the cyclone garbage can - finding the iron bearing parts that shouldn't have been vacuumed up in the first place. To date there's been only one injury. While crawling around under the sliding table of my combination machine (a Robland X31 for the curious) looking for more sawdust to vacuum up, and despite my repeated "watch your head" warnings, one girl tried to get up while under the sliding table and dinged her eyebrow. That prompted a "que tip and peroxide - neopsorene - big gauze eyepatch with four big pieces of tape to hold it in place - just for dramatic effect - medical emergency production with an audience enjoying every act of the three act drama, The star of this production, with her "eye make up" was in all her glory, basking in the attention of her fans - "Does it really hurt bad?" - "You gonna have to get stitches?" - "Think you'll lose your eye?" Of course the tape and the gauze came off before she went home and her "gaping wound" lost some of it's shock value - a shiny neosporened eyebrow just isn't all that noteworthy. Maybe, in addition to eye protection, ear muffs rubber gloves and safety glasses, I should add a helmet or two. Nothing to buy, no slick jig or fixture, no new use for an existing tool- a single, free in terms of dollars, shop improvement. Clean shop and another one of those priceless experiences. charlie b |
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On 06 Feb 2004 04:38:59 GMT, (Rich Stern) wrote:
What are your best three easy imrpovements? 1) I tried for years to come up with an effective dust collection solution for my SCMS. I've tried using a box behind the saw, etcetera. Every solution either compromised the cuts the saw could make, or didn't do a great job collecting the dust. Well, I finally tried making a shroud out of that flexible plastic that's used for freezer curtains. A couple of hours of fiddling around, and Voila! It works! I now have a dust free miter station. It's a flexible shroud that attaches to the saw and moves with it, and it doesn't restrict any cut (extreme left miter+bevel, etc) that the saw is capable of making. Very low effort for a large environmental improvement, IMO. 2) Mounted my outfeed table top on 28" drawer slides. The table is 28" deep,so when it's pushed in, it doesn't get in my way. When I push it out, it extends out to 56" behind the saw (60" past the blade) which is just long enough to handle 8' stock, and I can move it in and out without even walking around to the back of the saw. After suffering for years with temp supports and and later a large fixed table that took too much room, I'm really happy with this solution. 3) Replaced shelves under my bench with simple shallow pullouts. This was so easy to do it isn't funny, and it improved the cleanliness of my shop a ton, because I can now get a lot more stuff neatly arranged on the pullouts than I ever could on the shelves. Tim Carver |
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Tim,
Can you give more details and pics on #2? Also - where did you get that shroud you mentioned in #1? Thanks -Rob "Tim Carver" wrote in message ... On 06 Feb 2004 04:38:59 GMT, (Rich Stern) wrote: What are your best three easy imrpovements? 1) I tried for years to come up with an effective dust collection solution for my SCMS. I've tried using a box behind the saw, etcetera. Every solution either compromised the cuts the saw could make, or didn't do a great job collecting the dust. Well, I finally tried making a shroud out of that flexible plastic that's used for freezer curtains. A couple of hours of fiddling around, and Voila! It works! I now have a dust free miter station. It's a flexible shroud that attaches to the saw and moves with it, and it doesn't restrict any cut (extreme left miter+bevel, etc) that the saw is capable of making. Very low effort for a large environmental improvement, IMO. 2) Mounted my outfeed table top on 28" drawer slides. The table is 28" deep,so when it's pushed in, it doesn't get in my way. When I push it out, it extends out to 56" behind the saw (60" past the blade) which is just long enough to handle 8' stock, and I can move it in and out without even walking around to the back of the saw. After suffering for years with temp supports and and later a large fixed table that took too much room, I'm really happy with this solution. 3) Replaced shelves under my bench with simple shallow pullouts. This was so easy to do it isn't funny, and it improved the cleanliness of my shop a ton, because I can now get a lot more stuff neatly arranged on the pullouts than I ever could on the shelves. Tim Carver |
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Best three easy improvements to my shop. How about yours?
The pressure of the system is between 100 and 125. the L will take
everything a 175 psi system will give! I used to have an auto shop where I installed an extensive air system with L copper. It is WAY overrated for that. Not to worry! dave Mark and Kim Smith wrote: Hmmmm, a couple of questions. What pressure are you running your air system at and does anyone know the pressure rating of "L" copper?? Bay Area Dave wrote: just got done moving the air hose reel from the wall opposite my work bench, to overhead, near the bench. Why didn't I install one years ago??? Used 1/2" "L" copper pipe. Was a breeze to install except for getting to one of the mounting screws behind the reel. Attacked it with a quarter inch ratchet and ultra short phillips bit. dave Rich Stern wrote: I just finished a project and was cleaning up the shop, moving stuff around to get at all the sawdust, putting tools back, etc. I was musing about changes I've made to my workshop over the years, thinking about the successes and the failures. Here's what I came up with for my best three: 1) Compressed air from an overhead, retractable reel. How the heck did I get through the early years without this? I leave my portable compressor hooked up via quick disconnect to a feed line for the overhead reel. I can disconnect and roll out quickly if I need the compressor in the yard, garage, or at a neighbor's. The reel also has a quick disconnect, stuffed with a blowgun when not using any other air tools. This setup is great for woodworking, but the air gets used for all kinds of other tasks, too. 2) Stopped overcrowding the shop with machines. For years, my semi-portable power tools were set up and ready to work. Visions of moving from station to station with effortless efficiency. I thought it made projects go faster. The opposite is true. As I run low on space, the shop gets messy and projects begin to crawl. Now I take out the miter saw, belt/disk sander, scroll saw, etc. only when needed. The rest of the time, I enjoy the free space around the bigger machines. The shop stays much cleaner. 3) Rolling tool chest. You know, the mechanic's type. Just a low end, stacking unit from Lowes. Measuring tools, wrenches, sockets, screwdrivers, drill bits, etc, stay organized and dust free, and I can wheel the thing around if needed. My pegboarding of all this stuff never stayed organized. Somehow, I manage to keep it neat in the rolling cabinet. What are your best three easy imrpovements? |
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