We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

CM wrote:
We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

I am in the same boat. I went with verizon wireless because we have a
cell tower close by. I can now use it with the laptop on the road or my
kyocera router at home and share it with my other computers. It's not as
fast as cable or DSL but it's better than dialup.

On Jul 7, 10:10 am, "CM" wrote:
We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

My boss moved to an area without broadband service and originally got
the satellite service. The latency and upstream speeds were horrible.
If you primarily do large downloads it works ok but send email or web
surfing were barley above dial-up speed. He ended up getting Sprint
mobile broadband.

/BT\

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On Jul 7, 10:10 am, "CM" wrote:
We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for
our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

My boss moved to an area without broadband service and originally got
the satellite service. The latency and upstream speeds were horrible.
If you primarily do large downloads it works ok but send email or web
surfing were barley above dial-up speed. He ended up getting Sprint
mobile broadband.

/BT\

Satellite internet is not worth a crap. Save your money!!

We moved to an area that also did not have high speed.
We looked at satellite and wlmost fainted when we saw the cost of it WOW!!

So, I started calling Bell South - now ATT about once a month, and going to
their website and kept pestering and pestering. I even offered in a letter
to bake the President a dozen cookies..
well, it took a year, but by gosh, we have DSL now! And that was before the
takeover by ATT.

So, I say, keep on em, eventually they'll hear you.

No cable company or anythin aye? Us too. But the satellite TV is pretty
cool.
Kate
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"CM" wrote in message
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We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for
our home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like
some feedback from others on which one to go with.

Do you need speed? If so, you will probably be dissappointed with
sattellite. There is a lag, referred to as latency, with the signal being
bounced off of the sattellite.

Since I need a fast connection, nailing down that is the first consideration
if I were to move.

If speed is not a consideration, then go with what is available.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:10:31 GMT, "CM"
wrote:

We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.


Check out clarkhoward.com for rural broadband alternatives.

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On Jul 7, 10:10 am, "CM" wrote:

"no high speed internet service available"

Geeze, how will you ever survive?

Maybe you had better reconsider moving at all.

After all, if you "just found out" about the HSI, God only knows what
other things you failed to check up on before agreeing to pull up
stakes and move to whatever backwater wasteland. Do they have running
water? indoor plumbing? Public Schools? A Police Department?

You'll get by on Netscape for $6.95/month or NetZero for $9.95. When
we moved to the hills we found we didn't have to subscribe to a long
distance carrier and didn't. Stuck an antenna on the chimney and used
the last guy's cable tv wires to feed all the TVs from that. I came up
on BBS and 1200 BAUD Modems. Get along fine on dial-up.



We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

"

"Hoosierpopi" wrote in message
the last guy's cable tv wires to feed all the TVs from that. I came up
on BBS and 1200 BAUD Modems. Get along fine on dial-up.

You got along fine when programs were smaller, less data was floating around
and background information to get a screen to load was miniscule compared to
minimum necessities in this day and age. Using a 1200 baud modem as an
example is absolutely ridiculous considering that one would fail completely
in any platform currently used.

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:03:14 -0700, Hoosierpopi
wrote:

Get along fine on dial-up.


Let us know how that works out if you'd like to try out a downloadable
demo, like Cutlist or Sketchup, install a service pack, or use ITunes
to get podcasts and music. Broadband is worth it's weight in gold
to me simply for the way it delivers all of my favorite radio programs
to my IPod each evening! G

To the OP: If you get a decent cellular signal at the house, look
into high-speed data via the cell phone carriers in the area. In
some areas with no broadband, Verizon and Sprint, and to a lesser
extent, AT&T offer wireless data that can connect to your PC. This is
not to be confused surfing the 'net with a phone.

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On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 05:20:37 -0400, "Upscale"
wrote:

You got along fine when programs were smaller, less data was floating around
and background information to get a screen to load was miniscule compared to
minimum necessities in this day and age. Using a 1200 baud modem as an
example is absolutely ridiculous considering that one would fail completely
in any platform currently used.

High-speed access is now deemed "necessary" enough that it can become
a huge political football, often used to differentiate the "haves"
from the "have not's". I work for a telecomm company who is often
subject to legislation, on state and federal levels, that forces us
to provide certain broadband services in certain locations in exchange
for access to more lucrative markets.

Real estate developers frequently arrange for service before they
start anything other than a low-end project, because they know many
buyers will want high-speed access. Real estate agents will tell you
that people will choose one street over another based on broadband
availability, and actually state "lack of broadband availability" as
the reason for passing on a home.

Personally, I'd give up TV, broadcast radio, and a landline phone in
seconds.

Give up broadband? No way!

I'll be on the front lawn with a shotgun. G

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On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:10:31 GMT, "CM" wrote:

We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

We've been with Hughesnet for a little over a month and it's VERY hard to get
used to...
We got the slowest speed because even it was $60 a month, but the range of speed
and connection/drop is all over the map..

You can go from slower than dial-up to what seems as fast as our cable in the
States, and back again, in seconds.. watching the speed fluctuate when
downloading a large file is amazing..

OTOH, all in all it's better than a dial-up and can be run through our router to
share with the neighbors...

Sort of gives "wish upon a star" a whole new meaning..

OH.... Hughes is the only ISP I've had that doesn't have a news server, so I had
to provide my own to get this newsgroup..


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Sat, 7 Jul 2007 15:19:07 -0400, "Lee Michaels"
wrote:


"CM" wrote in message
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We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for
our home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like
some feedback from others on which one to go with.

Do you need speed? If so, you will probably be dissappointed with
sattellite. There is a lag, referred to as latency, with the signal being
bounced off of the sattellite.

Since I need a fast connection, nailing down that is the first consideration
if I were to move.

If speed is not a consideration, then go with what is available.


What's interesting with our sat. system is that SOME things fly..
I can be having trouble getting web pages to load or retrieving messages from a
newsgroup, and my wife can be outside on her notebook, using slower wireless,
and doing chat with a web cam with no lag or buffering problems.. weird..

I tried for 2 days to d/load a anti-virus update of 5 megs... took 4 HOURS to
get it..
The next day I d/loaded a 12.5 meg program in less that 3 minutes... ya just
never know..lol


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 02:03:14 -0700, Hoosierpopi wrote:

On Jul 7, 10:10 am, "CM" wrote:

"no high speed internet service available"

Geeze, how will you ever survive?

Maybe you had better reconsider moving at all.

After all, if you "just found out" about the HSI, God only knows what
other things you failed to check up on before agreeing to pull up
stakes and move to whatever backwater wasteland. Do they have running
water? indoor plumbing? Public Schools? A Police Department?

You'll get by on Netscape for $6.95/month or NetZero for $9.95. When
we moved to the hills we found we didn't have to subscribe to a long
distance carrier and didn't. Stuck an antenna on the chimney and used
the last guy's cable tv wires to feed all the TVs from that. I came up
on BBS and 1200 BAUD Modems. Get along fine on dial-up.

I got along fine on a hand brace and bit....
Having an IQ above room temperature, I jumped at the chance of upgrading to a
power drill...


mac

Please remove splinters before emailing

Personally, I'd give up TV, broadcast radio, and a landline phone in
seconds.

Give up broadband? No way!

I'll be on the front lawn with a shotgun. G


yep know that.

CM wrote:

We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for
our home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like
some feedback from others on which one to go with.

Before DSL came to our area, I had DirecPC. Best thing I can say about it
is that it is faster than dial-up. It is slower than DSL. As long as you
don't exceed the download limits. If you do so, they will throttle you
down below dial-up speeds. I'm not sure what the limit was, but I could
never download something like Linux iso files. If you have problems with
the system, prepare to spend a lot of time on hold and work hard to
decipher Eastern Indian accents. Be prepared to go through endless
solution scripts with them before they finally elevate you to another level
of support that might actually be able to help you solve the problem.

I know that one of the other satellite providers applies the limit on a
monthly basis, so if you use up your bandwidth early in the month, you are
throttled down through the remainder of the billing period.


--
If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

See if ClearWire is available in your area. I live way out in the
country and it was my only hi speed alternative.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:10:31 GMT, "CM"
wrote:

We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.

"Ben Phlat" wrote in message
news
See if ClearWire is available in your area. I live way out in the
country and it was my only hi speed alternative.

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:10:31 GMT, "CM"
wrote:

We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for
our
home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like some
feedback from others on which one to go with.



another is http://wildblue.com/

"mac davis" wrote in messag

We've been with Hughesnet for a little over a month and it's VERY hard to
get
used to...
We got the slowest speed because even it was $60 a month, but the range of
speed
and connection/drop is all over the map..

I set my rural based parents up on HughesNet last year and so far they've no
complaints after the initial setup marathon. But they were on dialup AOL
before that, so when you're used to canned meat a hamburger can seem like a
feast.

IIRC, they're paying around $80/month.

Having gone from 300 baud to thinking 14.4 was blazing, then ISDN, DSL, T1
and now cable, I don't want to contemplate life without broadband ... how
soon we forget.

Makes that BIG shop, way out in the peaceful countryside, seem a little less
appealing.

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www.e-woodshop.net
Last update: 6/1/07
KarlC@ (the obvious)

mac davis wrote:

On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 14:10:31 GMT, "CM" wrote:

We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies for
our home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but would like
some feedback from others on which one to go with.

We've been with Hughesnet for a little over a month and it's VERY hard to
get used to...
We got the slowest speed because even it was $60 a month, but the range of
speed and connection/drop is all over the map..

You can go from slower than dial-up to what seems as fast as our cable in
the States, and back again, in seconds.. watching the speed fluctuate when
downloading a large file is amazing..

Yep, you're exceeding your FAP (fair access policy) rate, you then get
throttled *way* down (to less than dial-up speeds) when you do that.


OTOH, all in all it's better than a dial-up and can be run through our
router to share with the neighbors...

Sort of gives "wish upon a star" a whole new meaning..

OH.... Hughes is the only ISP I've had that doesn't have a news server, so
I had to provide my own to get this newsgroup..


In my other response, I forgot about that detail. Up until April 2003,
they had Usenet, then decided that "nobody uses Usenet anymore" and dropped
it to free up resources for more "advanced" features. At the time I left
Hughesnet, those more advanced features included deleting the music
streaming that they used to include on their web page without any download
penalties and wanting to force people to upgrade to the latest modem before
they would provide additional download speed at a reasonable cost. I was
told that I could get more speed on my existing modem if I wanted to pay
(IIRC more than $20 per month more for going from 700k to 1M speed), it
would have only been $10 per month more if I had upgraded to the newest
modem. This would have been the third modem model since 2001.



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If you're going to be dumb, you better be tough

CM wrote:
We are moving this weekend and just found out there is no high speed
internet service available through the telephone or cable companies
for our home. I have looked at a few dish internet providers but
would like some feedback from others on which one to go with.

There are always options, including one chap I read about who built his own
microwave relay station for surprisingly little money. I think he even makes
a profit by allowing his neighbors piggy-back on his service.

One of my customers, in a (deep) suburb in South Carolina fussed with her
local telephone company for high-speed access. She went up the food chain
until she reached the head of the plant department.

"You know," he said, "we've been planning to upgrade your area but we're
stuck for facilities. If you can let us have a space about the size of a
closet in your building to put in a frame relay, we'll give you T1 service
in lieu of rent."

Is there a school or college in your area? You bet they have high-speed
service. Find out how they do it...