Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

Hey Traves - this sounds like sumpin' you could design on a napkin! LOL!

Jummy

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

It's probably something that ANY of you could design on a napkin, while
three sheets to the wind and blindfolded! But I'm having trouble visualizing
it. My ex's brother built a nice set of these, but I'm not allowed in his
house any more.

"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...
Hey Traves - this sounds like sumpin' you could design on a napkin! LOL!

Jummy

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for
some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

in my town, there's a company that buys up shelving systems from companies
going out of business. i bought 6 3x5x8 3 sided systems with adjustable
metal shelves that bolted together for $60/each. really heavy duty ones. i
think they came out of an electronics warehouse.

you might try looking in the yellow pages.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az

Try the Borg or Lowes. THey have quick setup plastic shelving kits, you
supply the 2X4's and custom configure them to your needs. If you're gonna
be moving, then having break down shelving sounds like a good answer.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

Yesterday I noticed as Sam's, some really strong steel shelf units with MDF
shelves. These free standing shelf units resemble the ones used in the Borg
to display their products. May be cheaper, quicker, and stronger in the
long run. They appeared to be adjustable and easy to break down.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

Later, this 85 yr old neighbor stops me in the hall and says "Hey....I
noticed the local **** gave you a hard time. Just ignore her!"

(Never knew old ladies talked like that!)


About 2 weeks ago I was at the grocery store with my wife.. While I stood
with the basket as my wife went down another isle, an elderly woman about 85
years old came up to me and asked me if I played golf. I reluctantly
replied yes as I had the strangest feeling that she was going to ask me out
on a golf date..... Anyway this 85 year old looking woman, a perfect
stranger, proceeds to tell me a raunchy golf joke.... LOL

"nuk" wrote in message
...

Sounds like a job for some Simpson Strong-Ties. Check out the projects
at http://www.strongtie.com/TR_Fliers_PDF.html under DIY-Projects.


Interesting! I'll be at Home Despot tonight to take a look at this as a
possibility. Thanks!

"Doug Kanter" who lives with an old broad with a limited vocabulary (but
cool old chick) wrote in message:
Jim:
Thanks! Fax: 585-244-0493

Faxed. And BTW - don't rebound with the old broad. LOL!

Jums

"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Doug Kanter" who lives with an old broad with a limited vocabulary (but
cool old chick) wrote in message:
Jim:
Thanks! Fax: 585-244-0493

Faxed. And BTW - don't rebound with the old broad. LOL!

Jums


Thanks again, Jim. And...not a chance with the old broad!

couple of months ago I saw a solution to this problem at the Home
Despot. They had several plastic "corners" in a kit that were sized to
take standard 2x4 lumber. The plastic "corners" held the 2x4s into
upright, horizontal and "shelf" locations, and could be glued/screwed
to the 2x4. Size/spacing was up to you.

tim

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

I'm lazy and figured pre-made shelves would work just fine. These can
be disassembled, are deep (24") and the shelves are adjustable. You
don't mention price so I'm going under the assumption that price is no
object.

I bought mine at The Borg. They're pretty much the same price
everywhere.

http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=prod...933-1281-MR245

"paulo57509" wrote in message
om...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for
some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

I'm lazy and figured pre-made shelves would work just fine. These can
be disassembled, are deep (24") and the shelves are adjustable. You
don't mention price so I'm going under the assumption that price is no
object.

I bought mine at The Borg. They're pretty much the same price
everywhere.

http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=prod...933-1281-MR245

"Sorry...product no longer available" :-)

Home Depot and others have some ready-made stuff. The ones which are strong
enough are more than my divorce lawyer will let me spend right now. :-)

Doug,

I have some shelves that I built for my garage and my sister's garage.
They work great. They're ugly but strong. I could writeup some
plans if you're interested. The shelves are 18" high (until 2' before
ceiling -- depends on height of garage), 2' deep, and 4' wide. You
could make them whatever height/depth you want (my sister's are 18"
deep), that's the best part. They easily support me standing on them
and they go up in an afternoon. Mine are 12' long and my sister's are
8' long.

I make them out of 2x4s 1x4s, 1x3s and 4x8 sheets of 3/4" OSB flooring
($10 a sheet). I think I spent $70 on my sister's 8' long, 18" deep,
8' high section.

The shelves slide in and out if you need to rearrange them and the
posts/supports are all installed with screws (oh, and I used my pocket
jig -- the mini-jig is $20 for jig and stepped drill bit).

Let me know if you're interested.

Mike


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

I was looking at those plastic kits in Lowe's a few weeks back for
some basement shelving. Makes it nice and easy for sure, but at almost
$20 for a set of 6 I found that too steep for basic storage shelving.
Now those Simpson tie items mentioned earlier look interesting.
Wondering how much they cost though, will have to check that out.

(tim collins) wrote in message . com...
couple of months ago I saw a solution to this problem at the Home
Despot. They had several plastic "corners" in a kit that were sized to
take standard 2x4 lumber. The plastic "corners" held the 2x4s into
upright, horizontal and "shelf" locations, and could be glued/screwed
to the 2x4. Size/spacing was up to you.

tim

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug
These links are kinda fun.
http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=howT...e.html&rn=none
Scott

Greetings and Salutations...

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug


The BORG sells metal brackets designed to connect 2x4s
together into shelf units. They are REALLY great. My brother in law
built several units and got a lot of his basement straghtened up.
Consists of a 2x4 upright, with the shelves spaced about 18" apart,
high enough to allow two standard record storage boxes to be stacked
on the shelf. Two is about the max, otherwise you can't get to stuff
easily.
he made them 4 shelves high, which works out to about 6'.
The length is 2x4 stock, and, he made them about 6' long. The
width is about 36' or so (the length of two of the document storage
boxes end to end.
We finished up by cutting 1/2" plywood into a shelf and
screwing it to the shelf supports.
Very quick, fairly cheap and amazingly strong.
Regards
Dave Mundt

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library hasn't
been much help.
-Doug


Modify any of the 1000 hits below as needed.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=garage+shelf&btnG=Google+Search

Barry

Big Orange Retail Giant. Home Depot. Swallows up all others


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Maybe I'm missing something, but who is "the BORG"???

"Dave Mundt" wrote in message
.. .
Greetings and Salutations...

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for
some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug


The BORG sells metal brackets designed to connect 2x4s
together into shelf units. They are REALLY great. My brother in law
built several units and got a lot of his basement straghtened up.
Consists of a 2x4 upright, with the shelves spaced about 18" apart,
high enough to allow two standard record storage boxes to be stacked
on the shelf. Two is about the max, otherwise you can't get to stuff
easily.
he made them 4 shelves high, which works out to about 6'.
The length is 2x4 stock, and, he made them about 6' long. The
width is about 36' or so (the length of two of the document storage
boxes end to end.
We finished up by cutting 1/2" plywood into a shelf and
screwing it to the shelf supports.
Very quick, fairly cheap and amazingly strong.
Regards
Dave Mundt

Doug,

Try the following link that was posted here regarding workbenches and
shelving.

http://www.lowes.com/lkn?action=howT...e.html&rn=none

You can size them to your specific needs and then print out the drawing and
materials list. Hope this helps.

Peter.

"Ken Johnsen" wrote in message
...
Big Orange Retail Giant. Home Depot. Swallows up all others


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Maybe I'm missing something, but who is "the BORG"???

"Dave Mundt" wrote in message
.. .
Greetings and Salutations...

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for
some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to
be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong. Screw assembly is
preferable to nails, because I'll be moving within the next couple of
years
and would like to be able to disassemble them. Can anyone provide a
web
link, or the name & author of a book that's useful? My public library
hasn't
been much help.
-Doug


The BORG sells metal brackets designed to connect 2x4s
together into shelf units. They are REALLY great. My brother in law
built several units and got a lot of his basement straghtened up.
Consists of a 2x4 upright, with the shelves spaced about 18" apart,
high enough to allow two standard record storage boxes to be stacked
on the shelf. Two is about the max, otherwise you can't get to stuff
easily.
he made them 4 shelves high, which works out to about 6'.
The length is 2x4 stock, and, he made them about 6' long. The
width is about 36' or so (the length of two of the document storage
boxes end to end.
We finished up by cutting 1/2" plywood into a shelf and
screwing it to the shelf supports.
Very quick, fairly cheap and amazingly strong.
Regards
Dave Mundt








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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong.

Doug, You're not close to Houston are you? I bought a heavy duty store
display that is 6' X 6' X 2' that might work. It has 4 drawers and
several shelves. I bought it for the stuff mounted on it and have no
use for the display and could make you a real deal (like name your own
price). I have pics if you're interested (or anybody in the Houston
area).

Send me the pics if you don't mind Tom.

Jums (in Houston)

"Tom" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong.

Doug, You're not close to Houston are you? I bought a heavy duty store
display that is 6' X 6' X 2' that might work. It has 4 drawers and
several shelves. I bought it for the stuff mounted on it and have no
use for the display and could make you a real deal (like name your own
price). I have pics if you're interested (or anybody in the Houston
area).

"Ken Johnsen" wrote in message
...
Big Orange Retail Giant. Home Depot. Swallows up all others


Oh....OK!

"Tom" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong.

Doug, You're not close to Houston are you? I bought a heavy duty store
display that is 6' X 6' X 2' that might work. It has 4 drawers and
several shelves. I bought it for the stuff mounted on it and have no
use for the display and could make you a real deal (like name your own
price). I have pics if you're interested (or anybody in the Houston
area).

Nope....Rochester NY. Thanks, though.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Jim:
Thanks! Fax: 585-244-0493

(Never knew old ladies talked like that!)

You obviously never met my great great grandmother...(101 and still cussin'
like a sailor).

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Doug Kanter" who lives with an old broad with a limited vocabulary (but
cool old chick) wrote in message:
Jim:
Thanks! Fax: 585-244-0493

Faxed. And BTW - don't rebound with the old broad. LOL!

Jums


Thanks again, Jim. And...not a chance with the old broad!


What, some lucky guy beat ya to her? G

"Tom" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:58:11 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

Strange as it sounds, I'm having a devil of a time finding plans for some
basic floorstanding garage shelves. Spacing between shelves needs to be
big
enough to store medium-sized U-Haul boxes and other big stuff, and I
don't
care how ugly they are, as long as they're strong.

Doug, You're not close to Houston are you? I bought a heavy duty store
display that is 6' X 6' X 2' that might work. It has 4 drawers and
several shelves. I bought it for the stuff mounted on it and have no
use for the display and could make you a real deal (like name your own
price). I have pics if you're interested (or anybody in the Houston
area).

I've got a dollar. Would that suffice?

"TexasFireGuy" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Doug Kanter" who lives with an old broad with a limited vocabulary
(but
cool old chick) wrote in message:
Jim:
Thanks! Fax: 585-244-0493

Faxed. And BTW - don't rebound with the old broad. LOL!

Jums


Thanks again, Jim. And...not a chance with the old broad!


What, some lucky guy beat ya to her? G


No, but whenever the next guy comes along, he'll gain a clear understanding
of the line from the song "Born Under a Bad Sign": If it wasn't for bad
luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all.
:-)

"TexasFireGuy" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"TexasFireGuy" wrote in message
. ..

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"Jim Mc Namara" wrote in message
. com...

"Doug Kanter" who lives with an old broad with a limited
vocabulary
(but
cool old chick) wrote in message:
Jim:
Thanks! Fax: 585-244-0493

Faxed. And BTW - don't rebound with the old broad. LOL!

Jums


Thanks again, Jim. And...not a chance with the old broad!


What, some lucky guy beat ya to her? G


No, but whenever the next guy comes along, he'll gain a clear
understanding
of the line from the song "Born Under a Bad Sign": If it wasn't for bad
luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all.
:-)


I feel for ya Dougie.


Hey...I'm happy. I lost my garden, but I still have my tools, my boat and my
fishing tackle. And, another woman who knows what's what. :-)

The cost surprised me a little bit as well, but it ended up being
worthwhile. The shelving unit is sturdy (once bolted to the wall) and
not really that ugly...

My bill of materials ended up being:

16 joist hangers @ $0.30ea = $ 4.80
12 2x4x8' @ $2 ea = $24.
2 3/8" sheets of plywood @ $8ea = $16.
misc. screws
------
$47.80
3.35 tax
------
~$51.15 + 1 evening's labor.

I'd use 1/2 plywood if I build another set. I had to add a few
supports to keep the 3/8 from sagging once it was loaded up with
boxes.

-Jeff

(MJ Wallace) wrote in message om...
Doug:

Been doing some looking myself. I have tried those plastic devices,
called Shelf Links. Not bad. They work. I also looked into
Simpson Strong Ties - they are expensive once you added
lumber. The real best, heavy duty ones are sold by Costco,
and perhaps other discount stores. They support up to 1,000 or
more pounds and only require a mallet to build them. They usually
cost $50 - 70 a piece and are cheaper then Simpson, but not
cheaper then the Shelf Link system.

Here's another suggestion:

popularmechanics.com/home_improvement/home_improvement/1997/12/storage_shelves/

MJ Wallace

I wrote 'bolted', I should have said 'attached.' I was in the same
situation, helping my father build some shelves for his storage
locker. He had the plywood sliced in half lengthwise at the BORG
(then only a cordless drill was required to put the thing together)
and we used some strapping to attach the shelving unit to a support
beam. An alternative would be a diagonal brace across the back if it
is to be freestanding - to keep it from becoming a parallelogram...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
"Jeff" wrote in message
om...
The cost surprised me a little bit as well, but it ended up being
worthwhile. The shelving unit is sturdy (once bolted to the wall) and
not really that ugly...


I probably should've mentioned that I can't bolt mine to the wall. It's
going to live in one of those self-storage garages. I'll just load the
heaviest stuff onto the bottom shelves. And, I thought maybe I'd add a 2x4
to the bottom of each side, extending 1' or so toward the wall, and stick
either sandbags or cinder blocks on them.

Nope....Rochester NY. Thanks, though.

No problem - sorry I couldn't help.