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Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle?
I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. I found one supplier but price seems high. Thanks! Pete |
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Pete & Kathy writes Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle? I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. I found one supplier but price seems high. Thanks! Pete I would suggest using some other material, Badgers do not like giving hair nowadays. We at least eat the meat of cattle before we use their skin to make leather, we do not eat Badgers, well not in this country, before using their hair. If you get some hair, make sure the cyanide gas residue or damage done by Badger baiting is cleaned off first. Bob `S` |
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Perhaps you could use some of your own hair . . . a human hair shaving brush
would really be a novelty. Maybe a wee bit of your skin dryed and tanned would help make a nice non-slip grip also . . . If not yours, maybe some of a "loved" one that you intend to give the brush too. Talk about personalized .. . . If all else fails, you COULDS BUY A TOP QUALITY PAINT BRUSH ! ! ! ! Use the material from that . . . . "Pete & Kathy" wrote in message ... Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle? I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. I found one supplier but price seems high. Thanks! Pete |
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Bob `S` wrote in
: In message , Pete & Kathy writes Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle? I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. I found one supplier but price seems high. Thanks! Pete I would suggest using some other material, Badgers do not like giving hair nowadays. We at least eat the meat of cattle before we use their skin to make leather, we do not eat Badgers, well not in this country, before using their hair. If you get some hair, make sure the cyanide gas residue or damage done by Badger baiting is cleaned off first. Bob `S` First find a badger hole. Stake it out for a bit to determine if the badger is still using it. If the badger is present, take a .222 or a .223 and shoot the mfkr in the head, if you're not going to mount it, or two inches behind the shoulder and about four or five inches below the back. Skin it or stuff it. The pelt will provide the bristles for a whole group of brushes. My people made necklaces and other ornaments from the claws in the past (hopefully some still do). Send the meat to Bob S. It will be cyanide free. Hank |
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Sigh... so this is one of THOSE newsgroups.
You're all too young to shave anyway. Thanks anyway! |
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Pete & Kathy wrote:
Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle? I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. I found one supplier but price seems high. See mine at OhMyWoodness.com They did get a little interest at a local craft show, but at the price I was told they should sell for no body looked seriously. Yes, the price does seem high, especially since buying a fully made Boar Bristle brush at CVS is cheaper. Granted, the boar bristle brush handle is made of plastic. Don't mind those young whippersnappers that don't know what a good close shave is really like. I'm glad their SO has tough skin and like whisker burn. try blankity-blanks.com mike -- Mike Vore http://www.OhMyWoodness.com http://mike.vorefamily.net/twr |
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![]() Pete & Kathy wrote: I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. You could open a Badger hair salon and advertise cheap Badger hair cuts/removal - I'm sure that the more sophisticated Badgers in your area would patronize such a place. In addition to getting plenty of Badger hair, this would provide a politically correct and renewable hair source - you might even corner the Badger hair market with that. ![]() Seariously, you could use those one of cheap brushes from the local pharmacy and disassemble it. Of course if you know Johnny Five, you wouldn't want that to mention that you are disassembling things to him. BrianC |
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![]() "mike vore" wrote in message news:P0Cdh.2841$R_1.2103@trndny08... Don't mind those young whippersnappers that don't know what a good close shave is really like. I'm glad their SO has tough skin and like whisker burn. try blankity-blanks.com Thanks Mike. Every newsgroup has a signal to noise ratio. Glad to see there's some "signal" on this one. Blankity-blank seems to be the only supplier of the knots in the US. Unless I can find some plastic drugstore brushes with high-quality badger, I'll have to spring for what they're asking. Have you tried selling yours on eBay? Pete |
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"Pete & Kathy" wrote in news:3YAdh.437174$QZ1.142991
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: Sigh... so this is one of THOSE newsgroups. You're all too young to shave anyway. Thanks anyway! Actually it's not. Every once in a bit, some of us can be jerks. I'm speaking from experience (too much experience and I'm one of us). My response was to the jerk that didn't eat badger in his country because of the cyanide that was probably used in traps (really was 'how can you use hair from an animal or something like that?'. My response was a stupid response to a stupid response. My apologies. Please don't judge others by my comments. I don't really know what badger knots are, but I expect they are clumps of badger hair that can be glued or mounted somehow into a handle. I have two shaving brushes and several paint brushes of badger. Wish my people saved some for me. I haven't seen a badger for a large number of years. In my kid days, I popped a few and got a decent price for the hides. Kept a bunch of claws, but lost or gave them away. Don't need the money (for food) anymore, so don't shoot badgers. Regards, ..Hank |
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![]() Actually it's not. Every once in a bit, some of us can be jerks. I'm speaking from experience (too much experience and I'm one of us). My response was to the jerk that didn't eat badger in his country because of the cyanide that was probably used in traps (really was 'how can you use hair from an animal or something like that?'. My response was a stupid response to a stupid response. My apologies. Please don't judge others by my comments. I don't really know what badger knots are, but I expect they are clumps of badger hair that can be glued or mounted somehow into a handle. I have two shaving brushes and several paint brushes of badger. Wish my people saved some for me. I haven't seen a badger for a large number of years. In my kid days, I popped a few and got a decent price for the hides. Kept a bunch of claws, but lost or gave them away. Don't need the money (for food) anymore, so don't shoot badgers. Regards, .Hank Thanks Hank! I've gotten a number of replies in private stating the same thing. A "knot" or plug is a stack of hair glued together at the base (usually with epoxy) forming a plug, ready to be inserted into a handle. Handles can be turned from any number of things, including exotic wood, acrylic and bone. There appears to be a lot of folks interested in this traditional way of shaving. Believe it or not, there are newsgroups dedicated to the subject. Badger hair (especially Silver Tip) makes the ultimate brush. In a way, I deserve the wake up. I never thought of the Badger Hair as "fur". I've used natural materials (animal hair, feathers, etc) for tying flies without much thought as well. Do they kill the badger? Probably so. I sure wouldn't want to give one a haircut. The plugs come from China. Blankity Blanks imports them in quantity and marks them up for sale in the US. I'll do more research to find the origins. Pete |
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Sorry Hank for upsetting you with my comments re. Badger hair, still at
least "my people" have not killed most of them off so I ( and those that follow me) do not know what they look like. I, unfortunately got a little hot under the collar about the way the request was made, I apologise to Pete & Kathy for that. I will not comment further re. The fur from China etc. as I know I will only upset others again especially if you wear dog fur which is used in clothing in the west, which is exported from china, they at least do eat the dog, quite a delicacy I believe. In message 42, Henry St.Pierre writes "Pete & Kathy" wrote in news:3YAdh.437174$QZ1.142991 : Sigh... so this is one of THOSE newsgroups. You're all too young to shave anyway. Thanks anyway! Actually it's not. Every once in a bit, some of us can be jerks. I'm speaking from experience (too much experience and I'm one of us). My response was to the jerk that didn't eat badger in his country because of the cyanide that was probably used in traps (really was 'how can you use hair from an animal or something like that?'. My response was a stupid response to a stupid response. My apologies. Please don't judge others by my comments. I don't really know what badger knots are, but I expect they are clumps of badger hair that can be glued or mounted somehow into a handle. I have two shaving brushes and several paint brushes of badger. Wish my people saved some for me. I haven't seen a badger for a large number of years. In my kid days, I popped a few and got a decent price for the hides. Kept a bunch of claws, but lost or gave them away. Don't need the money (for food) anymore, so don't shoot badgers. Regards, .Hank -- Robert Strudwick |
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![]() I found a supplier in China. Now we'll see how that goes. Pete |
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Pete & Kathy wrote:
I found a supplier in China. Now we'll see how that goes. Pete Pete ... who? I'm looking too. Bill -- Make yourself an honest man, and then you may be sure that there is one rascal less in the world. Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881) http://nmwoodworks.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000707-0, 01/27/2007 Tested on: 1/27/2007 1:02:44 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:02:43 -0500, Bill in Detroit
wrote: Me too!! Don Pete & Kathy wrote: I found a supplier in China. Now we'll see how that goes. Pete Pete ... who? I'm looking too. Bill |
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Hi Guys,
When you import brushes from China you need to buy a large quantity and also telegraph $ to the supplier. There's no recourse if you get stiffed. The supplier I found wasn't too bad with communications and filling my "small" order, but for some reason he's not answering any emails. I decided to sell knots as well as brushes for folks who don't intend to make a living making and selling brushes, but I only have one size (22mm x 70mm) at the moment. They're listed in my eBay STroe http://stores.ebay.com/Northwoods-Wo...3aFQ3aSTQQtZkm .. You can also purchase from a selection at www.blankity-blanks.com. Pete |
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Pete & Kathy wrote:
Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model? Bill -- Make yourself an honest man, and then you may be sure that there is one rascal less in the world. Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881) http://nmwoodworks.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000709-2, 02/01/2007 Tested on: 2/1/2007 1:13:09 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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On Dec 6 2006, 10:32 am, "Brian C"
wrote: Pete & Kathy wrote: I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue into the turned handles. You could open a Badger hair salon and advertise cheap Badger hair cuts/removal - I'm sure that the more sophisticated Badgers in your area would patronize such a place. In addition to getting plenty of Badger hair, this would provide a politically correct and renewable hair source - you might even corner the Badger hair market with that. ![]() Seariously, you could use those one of cheap brushes from the local pharmacy and disassemble it. Of course if you know Johnny Five, you wouldn't want that to mention that you are disassembling things to him. BrianC The only "cheap" pharmacy brushes I've found use pig bristles and are not nice at all. Way too stiff. I bought the next-most-expensive brush at the mall cutlery shop. $50 bucks, but worth it every morning. If it's anything like my last brush it will last 30 years. $1.33 per year for nice shaves seems worth it to me. |
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![]() "Bill in Detroit" wrote in message ... Pete & Kathy wrote: Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model? Bill Bill, No difference. I was just auctioning off with a starting bid at $25. Pete |
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$5.00.
"Bill in Detroit" wrote in message ... Pete & Kathy wrote: Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model? |
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CW wrote:
$5.00. "Bill in Detroit" wrote in message ... Pete & Kathy wrote: Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model? Ya know ... you're a lot smarter than you look. Bill -- http://nmwoodworks.com/cube --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 000730-2, 04/03/2007 Tested on: 4/4/2007 12:15:26 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2007 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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