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Pete & Kathy December 5th 06 06:40 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle?

I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue
into the turned handles.

I found one supplier but price seems high.

Thanks!

Pete



Bob `S` December 5th 06 08:50 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
In message ,
Pete & Kathy writes
Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle?

I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue
into the turned handles.

I found one supplier but price seems high.

Thanks!

Pete


I would suggest using some other material, Badgers do not like giving
hair nowadays. We at least eat the meat of cattle before we use their
skin to make leather, we do not eat Badgers, well not in this country,
before using their hair. If you get some hair, make sure the cyanide gas
residue or damage done by Badger baiting is cleaned off first.
Bob `S`

Petrified Woodworker December 6th 06 02:07 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Perhaps you could use some of your own hair . . . a human hair shaving brush
would really be a novelty. Maybe a wee bit of your skin dryed and tanned
would help make a nice non-slip grip also . . . If not yours, maybe some of
a "loved" one that you intend to give the brush too. Talk about personalized
.. . .

If all else fails, you COULDS BUY A TOP QUALITY PAINT BRUSH ! ! ! ! Use the
material from that . . . .




"Pete & Kathy" wrote in message
...
Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle?

I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to

glue
into the turned handles.

I found one supplier but price seems high.

Thanks!

Pete





Henry St.Pierre December 6th 06 05:08 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Bob `S` wrote in
:

In message
, Pete &
Kathy writes
Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle?

I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to
glue into the turned handles.

I found one supplier but price seems high.

Thanks!

Pete


I would suggest using some other material, Badgers do not like giving
hair nowadays. We at least eat the meat of cattle before we use their
skin to make leather, we do not eat Badgers, well not in this country,
before using their hair. If you get some hair, make sure the cyanide
gas residue or damage done by Badger baiting is cleaned off first.
Bob `S`


First find a badger hole. Stake it out for a bit to determine if the badger
is still using it. If the badger is present, take a .222 or a .223 and
shoot the mfkr in the head, if you're not going to mount it, or two inches
behind the shoulder and about four or five inches below the back. Skin it
or stuff it. The pelt will provide the bristles for a whole group of
brushes. My people made necklaces and other ornaments from the claws in the
past (hopefully some still do). Send the meat to Bob S. It will be cyanide
free.
Hank

Pete & Kathy December 6th 06 03:02 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Sigh... so this is one of THOSE newsgroups.

You're all too young to shave anyway.

Thanks anyway!



mike vore December 6th 06 04:15 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Pete & Kathy wrote:
Has anyone turned a Shaving brush handle?

I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue
into the turned handles.

I found one supplier but price seems high.


See mine at OhMyWoodness.com They did get a little interest at a local craft
show, but at the price I was told they should sell for no body looked seriously.

Yes, the price does seem high, especially since buying a fully made Boar
Bristle brush at CVS is cheaper. Granted, the boar bristle brush handle is
made of plastic.

Don't mind those young whippersnappers that don't know what a good close shave
is really like. I'm glad their SO has tough skin and like whisker burn.

try blankity-blanks.com

mike


--
Mike Vore
http://www.OhMyWoodness.com
http://mike.vorefamily.net/twr

Brian C December 6th 06 06:32 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 

Pete & Kathy wrote:
I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue
into the turned handles.


You could open a Badger hair salon and advertise cheap Badger hair
cuts/removal - I'm sure that the more sophisticated Badgers in your
area would patronize such a place. In addition to getting plenty of
Badger hair, this would provide a politically correct and renewable
hair source - you might even corner the Badger hair market with that.
;)

Seariously, you could use those one of cheap brushes from the local
pharmacy and disassemble it. Of course if you know Johnny Five, you
wouldn't want that to mention that you are disassembling things to him.

BrianC


Pete & Kathy December 6th 06 06:56 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 

"mike vore" wrote in message
news:P0Cdh.2841$R_1.2103@trndny08...


Don't mind those young whippersnappers that don't know what a good close
shave
is really like. I'm glad their SO has tough skin and like whisker burn.

try blankity-blanks.com



Thanks Mike. Every newsgroup has a signal to noise ratio. Glad to see
there's some "signal" on this one.

Blankity-blank seems to be the only supplier of the knots in the US. Unless
I can find some plastic drugstore brushes with high-quality badger, I'll
have to spring for what they're asking.

Have you tried selling yours on eBay?

Pete



Henry St.Pierre December 10th 06 08:00 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
"Pete & Kathy" wrote in news:3YAdh.437174$QZ1.142991
@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

Sigh... so this is one of THOSE newsgroups.

You're all too young to shave anyway.

Thanks anyway!



Actually it's not. Every once in a bit, some of us can be jerks. I'm
speaking from experience (too much experience and I'm one of us). My
response was to the jerk that didn't eat badger in his country because of
the cyanide that was probably used in traps (really was 'how can you use
hair from an animal or something like that?'. My response was a stupid
response to a stupid response. My apologies. Please don't judge others by
my comments.
I don't really know what badger knots are, but I expect they are clumps of
badger hair that can be glued or mounted somehow into a handle. I have two
shaving brushes and several paint brushes of badger. Wish my people saved
some for me. I haven't seen a badger for a large number of years. In my kid
days, I popped a few and got a decent price for the hides. Kept a bunch of
claws, but lost or gave them away. Don't need the money (for food) anymore,
so don't shoot badgers.
Regards,
..Hank

Pete & Kathy December 10th 06 12:33 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 


Actually it's not. Every once in a bit, some of us can be jerks. I'm
speaking from experience (too much experience and I'm one of us). My
response was to the jerk that didn't eat badger in his country because of
the cyanide that was probably used in traps (really was 'how can you use
hair from an animal or something like that?'. My response was a stupid
response to a stupid response. My apologies. Please don't judge others by
my comments.
I don't really know what badger knots are, but I expect they are clumps of
badger hair that can be glued or mounted somehow into a handle. I have two
shaving brushes and several paint brushes of badger. Wish my people saved
some for me. I haven't seen a badger for a large number of years. In my
kid
days, I popped a few and got a decent price for the hides. Kept a bunch of
claws, but lost or gave them away. Don't need the money (for food)
anymore,
so don't shoot badgers.
Regards,
.Hank


Thanks Hank!

I've gotten a number of replies in private stating the same thing.

A "knot" or plug is a stack of hair glued together at the base (usually with
epoxy) forming a plug, ready to be inserted into a handle. Handles can be
turned from any number of things, including exotic wood, acrylic and bone.
There appears to be a lot of folks interested in this traditional way of
shaving. Believe it or not, there are newsgroups dedicated to the subject.
Badger hair (especially Silver Tip) makes the ultimate brush.

In a way, I deserve the wake up. I never thought of the Badger Hair as
"fur". I've used natural materials (animal hair, feathers, etc) for tying
flies without much thought as well. Do they kill the badger? Probably so.
I sure wouldn't want to give one a haircut. The plugs come from China.
Blankity Blanks imports them in quantity and marks them up for sale in the
US. I'll do more research to find the origins.

Pete



[email protected] December 10th 06 11:33 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Sorry Hank for upsetting you with my comments re. Badger hair, still at
least "my people" have not killed most of them off so I ( and those
that follow me) do not know what they look like. I, unfortunately got a
little hot under the collar about the way the request was made, I
apologise to Pete & Kathy for that. I will not comment further re. The
fur from China etc. as I know I will only upset others again especially
if you wear dog fur which is used in clothing in the west, which is
exported from china, they at least do eat the dog, quite a delicacy I
believe.

In message 42, Henry
St.Pierre writes
"Pete & Kathy" wrote in news:3YAdh.437174$QZ1.142991
:

Sigh... so this is one of THOSE newsgroups.

You're all too young to shave anyway.

Thanks anyway!



Actually it's not. Every once in a bit, some of us can be jerks. I'm
speaking from experience (too much experience and I'm one of us). My
response was to the jerk that didn't eat badger in his country because of
the cyanide that was probably used in traps (really was 'how can you use
hair from an animal or something like that?'. My response was a stupid
response to a stupid response. My apologies. Please don't judge others by
my comments.
I don't really know what badger knots are, but I expect they are clumps of
badger hair that can be glued or mounted somehow into a handle. I have two
shaving brushes and several paint brushes of badger. Wish my people saved
some for me. I haven't seen a badger for a large number of years. In my kid
days, I popped a few and got a decent price for the hides. Kept a bunch of
claws, but lost or gave them away. Don't need the money (for food) anymore,
so don't shoot badgers.
Regards,
.Hank


--
Robert Strudwick

Henry St.Pierre December 12th 06 05:32 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
wrote in
:

Sorry Hank for upsetting you with my comments re. Badger hair, still
at least "my people" have not killed most of them off so I ( and
those that follow me) do not know what they look like. I,
unfortunately got a little hot under the collar about the way the
request was made, I apologise to Pete & Kathy for that. I will not
comment further re. The fur from China etc. as I know I will only
upset others again especially if you wear dog fur which is used in
clothing in the west, which is exported from china, they at least do
eat the dog, quite a delicacy I believe.



Nothing wrong with dog fur except, other than for limited warmth, it looks
like dog fur. Coyote fur on the other hand can be very attractive and
warmer (much harder to shoot than dogs and they smell better). Dog is not a
delicacy to me. I have no problem with gaminess in meat, but I found dog to
be even greasier than bear. The Koreans did a great job with dog. With all
the pepper, it could have been veal.
Regards,
Hank

Pete & Kathy December 14th 06 05:48 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 

I found a supplier in China.

Now we'll see how that goes.

Pete



Bill in Detroit January 27th 07 06:02 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Pete & Kathy wrote:
I found a supplier in China.

Now we'll see how that goes.

Pete


Pete ... who? I'm looking too.

Bill


--
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rascal less in the world.
Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)
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[email protected] January 27th 07 11:26 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 13:02:43 -0500, Bill in Detroit
wrote:
Me too!!

Don
Pete & Kathy wrote:
I found a supplier in China.

Now we'll see how that goes.

Pete


Pete ... who? I'm looking too.

Bill


Pete & Kathy February 1st 07 11:34 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Hi Guys,

When you import brushes from China you need to buy a large quantity and also
telegraph $ to the supplier. There's no recourse if you get stiffed.

The supplier I found wasn't too bad with communications and filling my
"small" order, but for some reason he's not answering any emails.

I decided to sell knots as well as brushes for folks who don't intend to
make a living making and selling brushes, but I only have one size (22mm x
70mm) at the moment. They're listed in my eBay STroe
http://stores.ebay.com/Northwoods-Wo...3aFQ3aSTQQtZkm
..

You can also purchase from a selection at www.blankity-blanks.com.

Pete



Bill in Detroit February 1st 07 06:13 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
Pete & Kathy wrote:

Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model?


Bill
--
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rascal less in the world.
Thomas Carlyle (1795 - 1881)
http://nmwoodworks.com


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[email protected] February 1st 07 06:49 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
On Dec 6 2006, 10:32 am, "Brian C"
wrote:
Pete & Kathy wrote:
I'd like to find a supplier for the knots (or plugs) of Badger Hair to glue
into the turned handles.


You could open a Badger hair salon and advertise cheap Badger hair
cuts/removal - I'm sure that the more sophisticated Badgers in your
area would patronize such a place. In addition to getting plenty of
Badger hair, this would provide a politically correct and renewable
hair source - you might even corner the Badger hair market with that.
;)

Seariously, you could use those one of cheap brushes from the local
pharmacy and disassemble it. Of course if you know Johnny Five, you
wouldn't want that to mention that you are disassembling things to him.

BrianC


The only "cheap" pharmacy brushes I've found use pig bristles and are
not nice at all. Way too stiff. I bought the next-most-expensive
brush at the mall cutlery shop. $50 bucks, but worth it every
morning. If it's anything like my last brush it will last 30 years.
$1.33 per year for nice shaves seems worth it to me.



Pete & Kathy February 12th 07 12:58 PM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 

"Bill in Detroit" wrote in message
...
Pete & Kathy wrote:

Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model?


Bill




Bill,

No difference. I was just auctioning off with a starting bid at $25.

Pete



CW April 4th 07 02:49 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
$5.00.

"Bill in Detroit" wrote in message
...
Pete & Kathy wrote:

Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model?







Bill in Detroit April 4th 07 05:15 AM

Badger Shaving Brush Knots
 
CW wrote:
$5.00.

"Bill in Detroit" wrote in message
...
Pete & Kathy wrote:

Pete ... what is the difference between the $25 model and the $30 model?


Ya know ... you're a lot smarter than you look.

Bill


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