I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

"Paper2002AD" wrote in message
...
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about
with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for
a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe
incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

I saw a design a few years ago which used just two mirrors fastened by tape
at right angles and placed over the slide on the bed of an ordinary scanner.
I'm sure if you google around, the plans will still be out there.
--
Lawrence

"Paper2002AD" wrote in message
...
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about
with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for
a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe
incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

A cheap solution would be to buy a normal scanner that has a slide/negative
accessory with it - Epson for example have them on several models.
The downside is the slide scanning resolution would only be as good as the
scanner resolution - which would not give very high quality due to the small
size of slide.
That is the reason why dedicated slide scanners are so expensive - you get
what you pay for.
It is not worth trying to make a light box with your LED torch because the
colour temperature would be wrong (not pure white) and you also need to
ensure the light is evenly spread over the whole slide - needs a more
diffused light source.

Dave

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Paper2002AD wrote:

I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play
about with if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying
loadsamoney for a light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my
own, maybe incorporating my new LED torch (birthday present), which
has a blinding light?

You don't need to pay loadsamoney - but you do need a scanner with a fairly
high resolution, and you do need to illuminate the slides evenly with light
of the correct colour temperature. I don't think I'd fancy your chances with
an LED torch!

I have the photo version of an Epsom Perfection 1670 scanner - with a light
source built into the lid, and with a template for locating slides in the
high resolution part of the deck. I paid 50 quid for this (new, boxed) on
Ebay. Haven't looked lately but there are probably still some on there.
Otherwise, you can get the same thing in the High Street for about 75 quid.
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A cheap solution would be to buy a normal scanner that has a
slide/negative accessory with it - Epson for example have them on
several models.
The downside is the slide scanning resolution would only be as good
as the scanner resolution - which would not give very high quality
due to the small size of slide.

Whilst not having the resolution of a dedicated film scanner, a flatbed such
as the Epson 1670 has an optical resolution of 1600 x 3200 dpi. Not *quite*
sure what that means - but even at 1600 dpi, it would give an image of about
2250 x 1500 pixels from a 36mm x 24mm slide - putting it in the same
ballpark as a 3 - 4 MegaPixel digital camera.
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I bought a decent one from Jessops. It is small and seems to give decent
results. If I were inclined I could blitz my collection and sell it.

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"Set Square" wrote in message
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Paper2002AD wrote:

I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play
about with if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying
loadsamoney for a light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my
own, maybe incorporating my new LED torch (birthday present), which
has a blinding light?

You don't need to pay loadsamoney - but you do need a scanner with a
fairly
high resolution, and you do need to illuminate the slides evenly with
light
of the correct colour temperature. I don't think I'd fancy your chances
with
an LED torch!

I have the photo version of an Epsom Perfection 1670 scanner - with a
light
source built into the lid, and with a template for locating slides in the
high resolution part of the deck. I paid 50 quid for this (new, boxed) on
Ebay. Haven't looked lately but there are probably still some on there.
Otherwise, you can get the same thing in the High Street for about 75
quid.
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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:34:08 +0100, "Lawrence Milbourn"
wrote:


I saw a design a few years ago which used just two mirrors fastened by tape
at right angles and placed over the slide on the bed of an ordinary scanner.

Don't bother - built one - useless except as an interesting
experiment.

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On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 22:05:24 +0100, "Set Square"
wrote:


Whilst not having the resolution of a dedicated film scanner, a flatbed such
as the Epson 1670 has an optical resolution of 1600 x 3200 dpi. Not *quite*
sure what that means - but even at 1600 dpi, it would give an image of about
2250 x 1500 pixels from a 36mm x 24mm slide - putting it in the same
ballpark as a 3 - 4 MegaPixel digital camera.

Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of paper
and the slide scanning is almost without exception mediocre. I've
tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is very
significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M pixel camera
with a good lens.

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and, if
the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

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On 17 Sep 2004, Peter Parry wrote

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:34:08 +0100, "Lawrence Milbourn"
wrote:


I saw a design a few years ago which used just two mirrors
fastened by tape at right angles and placed over the slide on the
bed of an ordinary scanner.

Don't bother - built one - useless except as an interesting
experiment.

Agreed. I have an little HP scanner accessory which does the same
thing -- a sort of prism which reflects the light from the flat-bed
scanner upwards and then back down through the slide. As you might
imagine, the results are pretty poor since the slide is being both top-
and bottom-lit at the same time.

If a true slide scanner isn't affordable, though, you can get standard
scanners with a light in the lid to "downlight" one or two slides at a
time; the software turns off the bottom-scanning light. I've tried
one of these -- a Canon 3200F -- and it works pretty well.

It's not as good as a dedicated slide scanner, of course, but the
results are really quite acceptable.

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Peter Parry wrote:


Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of paper
and the slide scanning is almost without exception mediocre. I've

Depends on what you use. Some of the top end film scanners used for
comecial repro are actually flatbed, although we are talking 10,000
quid here ;-)

For the ones that have transparency scanning added as an afterthought I
would however agree, the results ara a bit disapointing.

tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is very
significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M pixel camera
with a good lens.

The 1690 Pro does actually give quite acceptable results, but does lack
ICE.

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and, if
the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

A friend recently bought a Epson Perfection 4870 Photo Scanner, which
has an optical resolution of 4800 X 9600 Dpi. More importantly it has a
DMax of 3.8 which matches and in some cases exceeeds that of the top end
Nikon film scanners. It also has ICE. This makes a decent job of 35mm
originals.

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Paper2002AD wrote:

I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

Cheap way (for a "one off"), take em to Boots (or any photo processing
place) and have them stick them on Photo CD for you. Only works if the
slides are 35mm though.



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Or project the slide onto a flat white surface and take a photo of it?
I've never tried this, I hasten to add

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Or project the slide onto a flat white surface and take a photo of it?

Would my 4.2 million pixel Fuji accomplish this?

Paper2002AD wrote:

I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?


The problem I find is the time it takes to do the scanning and the
resuts compared to a pro lab. - I have a good quality dedicated scanner
which retails in the £400 - £500 price bracket but the time it takes to
set up the balance for each film and then the time of the actual
scanning is very inconvenient - it is OK for one neg but a pain for
multiples. The scan quality is no where near as good as the results from
the lab I use.

I get them done by a pro lab I use when the films are developed now
(www.peak-imaging.co.uk) and it is a lot less hassle and far far
superior quality (I would guess their scanner costs in the 10's of
thousands). It costs and extra £6 quid or so on top of the processing
price for a 36 Exp film but is, in my opinion, worth it. Depending on
the number and film sizes it could prove quite an expensive way of doing
a large archive though.

"Paper2002AD" wrote in message
...
Or project the slide onto a flat white surface and take a photo of it?

Would my 4.2 million pixel Fuji accomplish this?

You'd introduce extra geometric distortion, but it might not be too
noticeable. Also, with a projector, the light levels are likely to be rather
lower than what your digital camera likes, so it might not take such good
pictures.
I have a feeling you can get hold of an adaptor to connect to a camera that
allows slides ot be lit for taking a photo of. A specialist adaptor like
that may work better.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:06:38 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of paper
and the slide scanning is almost without exception mediocre.

Hi,

Flatbed scanners that can scan film have a backlight and a deeper
carriage, in those respects they are no different from dedicated film
scanners.

I've
tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is very
significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M pixel camera
with a good lens.

I've had reasonable results scanning negatives with a Canoscan 5000F,
here's a sample of the Eiffel Tower:

http://www.smileypete.dsl.pipex.com/Scan0001b.jpg (1.8Mb)

I would say that viewing on a 1280x1024 screen captures all the
available detail, putting it about 1.3Mp.

Here's another one of the Champs Elysee:

http://www.smileypete.dsl.pipex.com/Scan00011b.jpg (1.6Mb)

This time if you zoom in on the lights at the end of the street, then
look at the image at 1280x1024, the screen doesn't represent all the
detail fully.

This detail is better represented at 1900x1200, so I'd put it at 2Mp,
and expect it can give pretty good enlargements up to 12" x 8".

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and, if
the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

If you just want to print off some reasonable enlargements I would say
that a film capable flatbed scanner will do.

If you want to digitally archive or create very good enlargments from
slides then a good dedicated film scanner is required.

One thing I've found is that the 5000F doesn't cope too well with
flash pictures where areas are over exposed, I'm going to get some
tinted film to reduce the light output to see if that helps.

If you just want reasonable enlargements with the occasional top
quality one, one way to go is to do the former with a flatbed scanner
and send the slides away for the latter.

cheers,
Pete.

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 23:06:38 +0100, Peter Parry
wrote:

Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of paper
and the slide scanning is almost without exception mediocre.

Hi,

Flatbed scanners that can scan film have a backlight and a deeper
carriage, in those respects they are no different from dedicated film
scanners.

I've
tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is very
significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M pixel camera
with a good lens.

I've had reasonable results scanning negatives with a Canoscan 5000F,
here's a sample of the Eiffel Tower:

http://www.smileypete.dsl.pipex.com/Scan0001b.jpg (1.8Mb)

I would say that viewing on a 1280x1024 screen captures all the
available detail, putting it about 1.3Mp.

Here's another one of the Champs Elysee:

http://www.smileypete.dsl.pipex.com/Scan00011b.jpg (1.6Mb)

This time if you zoom in on the lights at the end of the street, then
look at the image at 1280x1024, the screen doesn't represent all the
detail fully.

This detail is better represented at 1900x1200, so I'd put it at 2Mp,
and expect it can give pretty good enlargements up to 12" x 8".

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and, if
the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

If you just want to print off some reasonable enlargements I would say
that a film capable flatbed scanner will do.

If you want to digitally archive or create very good enlargments from
slides then a good dedicated film scanner is required.

One thing I've found is that the 5000F doesn't cope too well with
flash pictures where areas are over exposed, I'm going to get some
tinted film to reduce the light output to see if that helps.

If you just want reasonable enlargements with the occasional top
quality one, one way to go is to do the former with a flatbed scanner
and send the slides away for the latter.

cheers,
Pete.

In article ,
Paper2002AD wrote:
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

The problem won't be the actual scanning, but the amount of time you'll
waste doing it. I had this notion some years back - bought a slide
scanner, but in reality, even with good work-flow software it was still
taking up to 10 miuntes per slide, once I'd touched them up to remove
scratches, dust, etc.

One option might be a digital camera with a 35mm slide adapter. Thats probably
the easiest way to do it.

If you are serious, get a scanner that can be bulk loaded and one that
has an IR channel to remove dust.

Alternatively, as another poster has suggested, take them to boots and get them
to transfer them to CD.

I ended up giving up and bought a digital camera.

Gordon

Peter Parry wrote in
:


I saw a design a few years ago which used just two mirrors fastened by
tape at right angles and placed over the slide on the bed of an
ordinary scanner.

Don't bother - built one - useless except as an interesting
experiment.

Useless as an experiment or as a scanner?

My attempt was useless as both!

mike

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 20:34:08 +0100, "Lawrence Milbourn"
wrote:




"Paper2002AD" wrote in message
...
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about
with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for
a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe
incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

I saw a design a few years ago which used just two mirrors fastened by tape
at right angles and placed over the slide on the bed of an ordinary scanner.
I'm sure if you google around, the plans will still be out there.

What kind of results would one achieve by projecting the slides on to
the best quality screen possible, then photographing the pictures with
a digital camera? The quality might not be as high as the original
slides, but for quick persual in a web-based album, they might be
better than nothing. I, too, took hundreds of slides years ago, and
the last time I enquired at Jessops, a slide scanner was around £150.

MM

How much do Boots charge (to transfer 35mm slides to CD)?
Anybody else provide the same service?
-Roy-
(Surrey, England)

"Gordon Henderson" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Paper2002AD wrote:
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about
with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney
for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe
incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

The problem won't be the actual scanning, but the amount of time you'll
waste doing it. I had this notion some years back - bought a slide
scanner, but in reality, even with good work-flow software it was still
taking up to 10 miuntes per slide, once I'd touched them up to remove
scratches, dust, etc.

One option might be a digital camera with a 35mm slide adapter. Thats
probably
the easiest way to do it.

If you are serious, get a scanner that can be bulk loaded and one that
has an IR channel to remove dust.

Alternatively, as another poster has suggested, take them to boots and get
them
to transfer them to CD.

I ended up giving up and bought a digital camera.

Gordon

Paper2002AD wrote:
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

Scanners with slide scanning attachments are not so expensive
nowadays. I have an Epson Perfection 1650 which cost only just over
£100 and scans slides pretty well (it'll also scan colour negatives).
You can probably get something just as good for less than £100 now, it
was a while ago that I bought it.

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Matthew J.E. Durkin wrote:

"Paper2002AD" wrote in message
...

Or project the slide onto a flat white surface and take a photo of it?

Would my 4.2 million pixel Fuji accomplish this?

Should do...

You'd introduce extra geometric distortion, but it might not be too
noticeable. Also, with a projector, the light levels are likely to be rather

You can fix that in photoshop....

lower than what your digital camera likes, so it might not take such good
pictures.

Most digitals will run in low light - and a projected image is not that
dim. One problem you may find is getting a "hot spot" - i.e. the centre
of the projected image may be better lit than the edges.

You may also get a result with one of the cine to video transfer boxes.
These allow you to shine a projector in one side, and point a video
camera into the other for the purposes of copying from old film to
video. You should not get any geometric distortion with this approach.

I have a feeling you can get hold of an adaptor to connect to a camera that
allows slides ot be lit for taking a photo of. A specialist adaptor like
that may work better.

You can get slide copier lenses for most SLRs not sure on the
availability for "ordinary" digital cameras.



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Gordon Henderson wrote:

The problem won't be the actual scanning, but the amount of time you'll
waste doing it. I had this notion some years back - bought a slide
scanner, but in reality, even with good work-flow software it was still
taking up to 10 miuntes per slide, once I'd touched them up to remove
scratches, dust, etc.

For doing bulk you need a slide scanner with auto feed as you suggest.
There is one caveat I would highlight though. The autofeeder I have
(Nikon SF200 on a LS2000 scanner) works very well with modern slides.
It is not as good with older slides in cardboard mounts, which can cause
misfeeds and jams.

I ended up giving up and bought a digital camera.

Fine for new photos, but does not solve the issue with the back catalogue.

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You may also get a result with one of the cine to video transfer boxes.
These allow you to shine a projector in one side, and point a video
camera into the other for the purposes of copying from old film to

AHA! Got one of those somewhere - I'll give it a try.

"Paper2002AD" wrote in message
...
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about
with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for
a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe
incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

I have a Dimage Scan Dual, Mod F-2400,
which I purchased years ago I haven't used it much and it's doing nothing,
if you want to make an offer around £40. I'm based in North Shropshire.
Regards
Tom

John Rumm wrote in message ...
Peter Parry wrote:


Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of paper
and the slide scanning is almost without exception mediocre. I've

Depends on what you use. Some of the top end film scanners used for
comecial repro are actually flatbed, although we are talking 10,000
quid here ;-)

For the ones that have transparency scanning added as an afterthought I
would however agree, the results ara a bit disapointing.

tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is very
significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M pixel camera
with a good lens.

The 1690 Pro does actually give quite acceptable results, but does lack
ICE.

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and, if
the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

A friend recently bought a Epson Perfection 4870 Photo Scanner, which
has an optical resolution of 4800 X 9600 Dpi. More importantly it has a
DMax of 3.8 which matches and in some cases exceeeds that of the top end
Nikon film scanners. It also has ICE. This makes a decent job of 35mm
originals.

--
Cheers,

John.

Another solution to get slides into digital format is to re-photograph
them, with a suitable back-lighter, with a digital camera. However,
I do not know if such devices are available, although they were made
for pentaxes and similar SLR film cameras. Providing the camera has
close enough focus, it should be possible to make one. I recently had
some 4 by 3 inch glass plate negatives done this way, with good
results, although this with a Nikon digital camera. I also have an
Epson 1670 scanner, which came with a 35mm slide and neg. attachment,
good for the money - £80.

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John Rumm wrote in message ...
Peter Parry wrote:


Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of paper
and the slide scanning is almost without exception mediocre. I've

Depends on what you use. Some of the top end film scanners used for
comecial repro are actually flatbed, although we are talking 10,000
quid here ;-)

For the ones that have transparency scanning added as an afterthought I
would however agree, the results ara a bit disapointing.

tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is very
significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M pixel camera
with a good lens.

The 1690 Pro does actually give quite acceptable results, but does lack
ICE.

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and, if
the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

A friend recently bought a Epson Perfection 4870 Photo Scanner, which
has an optical resolution of 4800 X 9600 Dpi. More importantly it has a
DMax of 3.8 which matches and in some cases exceeeds that of the top end
Nikon film scanners. It also has ICE. This makes a decent job of 35mm
originals.

--
Cheers,

John.

Another solution to get slides into digital format is to re-photograph
them, with a suitable back-lighter, with a digital camera. However,
I do not know if such devices are available, although they were made
for pentaxes and similar SLR film cameras. Providing the camera has
close enough focus, it should be possible to make one. I recently had
some 4 by 3 inch glass plate negatives done this way, with good
results, although this with a Nikon digital camera. I also have an
Epson 1670 scanner, which came with a 35mm slide and neg. attachment,
good for the money - £80.

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I have a Dimage Scan Dual, Mod F-2400,
which I purchased years ago I haven't used it much and it's doing nothing=
,
if you want to make an offer around =A340. I'm based in North Shropshire.

Is that scsi based ? (having problems finding any info on it)

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I have a Dimage Scan Dual, Mod F-2400,
which I purchased years ago I haven't used it much and it's doing nothing,
if you want to make an offer around £40. I'm based in North Shropshire.

Is that scsi based ? (having problems finding any info on it)

Yes I think so, havn't used it for years, must find the literature on it.
Tom

I have a Dimage Scan Dual, Mod F-2400,
Is that scsi based ? (having problems finding any info on it)
Yes I think so, havn't used it for years, must find the literature on it.

....I think it came out circa 1997, so if the scsi adaptor is included, it
might (although probably not very likely) be an ISA card.

I`ll drop someone I know an email, he might be interested (I sort of am
myself tbh, but i`m going to be incommunicado for a few weeks)

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I`ll drop someone I know an email, he might be interested (I sort of am
myself tbh, but i`m going to be incommunicado for a few weeks)

That's in Spain somewhere, isn't it?

(I'll get my coat)

On 19 Sep 2004, StephenC wrote

John Rumm wrote in message
...
Peter Parry wrote:


Problem with scanners is that they are designed for sheets of
paper and the slide scanning is almost without exception
mediocre. I've

Depends on what you use. Some of the top end film scanners used
for comecial repro are actually flatbed, although we are talking
10,000 quid here ;-)

For the ones that have transparency scanning added as an
afterthought I would however agree, the results ara a bit
disapointing.

tried the 1670 and would suggest it's performance on slides is
very significantly inferior to the results obtained by a 1M
pixel camera with a good lens.

The 1690 Pro does actually give quite acceptable results, but
does lack ICE.

If you want decent results you really need a slide scanner and,
if the slides are old one, with integral Digital ICE

A friend recently bought a Epson Perfection 4870 Photo Scanner,
which has an optical resolution of 4800 X 9600 Dpi. More
importantly it has a DMax of 3.8 which matches and in some cases
exceeeds that of the top end Nikon film scanners. It also has
ICE. This makes a decent job of 35mm originals.

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Cheers,

John.

Another solution to get slides into digital format is to
re-photograph them, with a suitable back-lighter, with a digital
camera. However, I do not know if such devices are available,
although they were made for pentaxes and similar SLR film cameras.

I had slide-duping tubes like that years ago (Minolta), but never got
very good results -- second-generation images were being produced from
a lens which was inferior to the original, and there was a *lot* of
image loss and distortion.

Logic tells me that whilst digital is probably better, one would
probably be dogged with the same problem: that is, if the lens on the
camera you're using isn't superior to the one which took the original
slide, you're on a losing curve, and you'll probably get better digital
information from a scanner than by using a camera to do the digitising.

Providing the camera has close enough focus, it should be
possible to make one. I recently had some 4 by 3 inch glass plate
negatives done this way, with good results, although this with a
Nikon digital camera. I also have an Epson 1670 scanner, which
came with a 35mm slide and neg. attachment, good for the money -
£80.

I have similar kit -- a Canon 3200F with a slide-scannig lamp in the
lid -- and it works pretty well. The results aren't professional
level, but this field is a "pays money/takes choice" thing: the only
way to get if truly *good* quality slide scans is to use a dedicated
slide scanner (or pay a commercial firm to do it with professional
kit).

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Cheers,
Harvey

I`ll drop someone I know an email, he might be interested (I sort of am
myself tbh, but i`m going to be incommunicado for a few weeks)
That's in Spain somewhere, isn't it?

....more like in the province of Ontario :-p

(I'll get my coat)

You do that :-p

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Another solution to get slides into digital format is to re-photograph
them, with a suitable back-lighter, with a digital camera. However,
I do not know if such devices are available, although they were made
for pentaxes and similar SLR film cameras. Providing the camera has
close enough focus, it should be possible to make one. I recently had
some 4 by 3 inch glass plate negatives done this way, with good
results, although this with a Nikon digital camera. I also have an
Epson 1670 scanner, which came with a 35mm slide and neg. attachment,
good for the money - =A380.
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http://www.mav-magazine.com/Apr2000/page17.html

Or Google on slide copier.=20

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Paul Mc Cann

In message , Paper2002AD
writes
I've got hundreds of old slides, some of which I would like to play about with
if only I could get them onto the pc. I dont fancy paying loadsamoney for a
light box thingy - how easy would it be to make my own, maybe incorporating my
new LED torch (birthday present), which has a blinding light?

Forget it, you'll never get it to give a decent spectrum and end up with
a picture with good colour balance

Where are you?

I have a 35mm scanner, which I might let you use

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geoff

In message , StephenC
writes

Another solution to get slides into digital format is to re-photograph
them, with a suitable back-lighter,

That's the crunch part isn't it

with a digital camera. However,
I do not know if such devices are available, although they were made
for pentaxes and similar SLR film cameras. Providing the camera has
close enough focus, it should be possible to make one. I recently had
some 4 by 3 inch glass plate negatives done this way, with good
results, although this with a Nikon digital camera. I also have an
Epson 1670 scanner, which came with a 35mm slide and neg. attachment,
good for the money - £80.


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geoff

In message , Colin
Wilson writes
I have a Dimage Scan Dual, Mod F-2400,
which I purchased years ago I haven't used it much and it's doing nothing,
if you want to make an offer around £40. I'm based in North Shropshire.

Is that scsi based ? (having problems finding any info on it)

Yes

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geoff

Where are you?

I have a 35mm scanner, which I might let you use

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geoff


That's a kind offer - I'm in Telford.

In message , Paper2002AD
writes
Where are you?

I have a 35mm scanner, which I might let you use

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geoff


That's a kind offer - I'm in Telford.

Next time I'm up in that neck of the woods (Shrewsbury) I can bring it
up

email me


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geoff