I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


A bicycle?

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]



Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.

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On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:08:12 -0800, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

My car has a speed limiter. Does the trick.


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

Navigation with google maps automatically includes warnings now.
Alternatively you can get downloadable databases for most sat nav units.
The one maintained by https://www.pocketgpsworld.com/ is quite good IME.


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On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 13:09:38 +0000, GB wrote:

On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:08:12 -0800, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed
camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

My car has a speed limiter. Does the trick.


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

The speed limiter on my car auto-adjusts to the speed limit, based on
signs. Not 100%, but works very well. Not the same as cruise control.

And the car also intones 'caution' when a speed camera is coming up soon.



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In article ,
says...

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?


Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the
life of the device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a
subscription after the first 3 months.)

As supplied it was on al the time but was a pain.

For example, drive at ~70 in a 70mph zone. Speed varies
slightly up and down but every time it exceeds 70 - increases
up to 71, say - it produces a bong.

All those bongs are a bit of a nuisance, so I turned off the
default and it now only activates near speed cameras and in
areas where mobile units patrol.

In fact, as I don't keep my eyes on the thing for obvious
reasons, (!) the first bong is usually the first time I'm
alerted of the risk.


--

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On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:09:42 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:08:12 -0800, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

My car has a speed limiter. Does the trick.


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

+1
I use cruise control regularly to relieve me of the tedium of constantly monitoring my speed. When I reach a speed limit change point I just adjust the cruise contro, up or down, as needed. S'easy

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

Sat Navs give a warning- not sure if you can make them give an audible
warning but they certainly change the display.

Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato based)
has and I think the Outlander has.

On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato based)
has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 13:24:04 -0000 (UTC), Jethro_uk
wrote:



When I got the car, I thought I'd use the cruise control (it's adaptive)
all the time on motorways. But it's not really suited to UK driving.


I use the adaptive cruise control on my Toyota all the time, on and
off motorways. It has no problem adjusting.

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

mobile phone plus tomtom GO satnav

Dont have to key in a destination. It will ting at you for exceedeing
speed limits and go beserk where known speed cameras are


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On 13/12/2019 14:26, Terry Casey wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?


Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the
life of the device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a
subscription after the first 3 months.)

As supplied it was on al the time but was a pain.

For example, drive at ~70 in a 70mph zone. Speed varies
slightly up and down but every time it exceeds 70 - increases
up to 71, say - it produces a bong.

All those bongs are a bit of a nuisance, so I turned off the
default and it now only activates near speed cameras and in
areas where mobile units patrol.

In fact, as I don't keep my eyes on the thing for obvious
reasons, (!) the first bong is usually the first time I'm
alerted of the risk.


Tom tom allows up to about 75 before it goes ting!




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other ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

- John K Galbraith

On Friday, 13 December 2019 15:39:15 UTC, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:26, Terry Casey wrote:
In article ,
says...
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?


Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the
life of the device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a
subscription after the first 3 months.)

As supplied it was on al the time but was a pain.

For example, drive at ~70 in a 70mph zone. Speed varies
slightly up and down but every time it exceeds 70 - increases
up to 71, say - it produces a bong.

All those bongs are a bit of a nuisance, so I turned off the
default and it now only activates near speed cameras and in
areas where mobile units patrol.

In fact, as I don't keep my eyes on the thing for obvious
reasons, (!) the first bong is usually the first time I'm
alerted of the risk.


Tom tom allows up to about 75 before it goes ting!

On m'ways mine bongs at each camera above about 65.


NT

On 13/12/2019 15:27, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:26:27 +0000, Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...
[quoted text muted]

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the life of the
device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a subscription after the first
3 months.)

When I had a Garmin, despite having lifetime maps, etc (and my informing
them) it persistently had a road I use sometimes as NSL when it was
actually dropped to 40 in 2010.

I wonder what liability exists when a person relies on the speed camera
alert feature, and incorrect data (or operation) leads to a ticket ?


I suspect you mean "when a person relies on the speed camera alert
feature despite the seller making it abundantly clear it may not be 100%
right, and that it's always the driver's responsibility to check the
speed limit for the road". I rather doubt a UK court would hold that
such a term is unreasonable. Speed limits change and no system of
updating can be expected to be 100% perfect and prompt.

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Yes but they are only as accurate as the databases of speed limits and or
camera position information.

You may be surprised, but one way is to go on onne of those courses you get
sent on to avoid points. If you have already done one then I fear you are
beyond help or your speedo is bust!
Brian

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On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]



Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.

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On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

mobile phone plus tomtom GO satnav

Dont have to key in a destination. It will ting at you for exceedeing
speed limits and go beserk where known speed cameras are


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ideas but to the massive onslaught of circumstance"

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My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on motorways.
Strangely there is no option to set a speed limiter, although the car does
read spead limit signs.

In article ,
Robin wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:27, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:26:27 +0000, Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...
[quoted text muted]

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the life of the
device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a subscription after the first
3 months.)

When I had a Garmin, despite having lifetime maps, etc (and my informing
them) it persistently had a road I use sometimes as NSL when it was
actually dropped to 40 in 2010.

I wonder what liability exists when a person relies on the speed camera
alert feature, and incorrect data (or operation) leads to a ticket ?


I suspect you mean "when a person relies on the speed camera alert
feature despite the seller making it abundantly clear it may not be 100%
right, and that it's always the driver's responsibility to check the
speed limit for the road". I rather doubt a UK court would hold that
such a term is unreasonable. Speed limits change and no system of
updating can be expected to be 100% perfect and prompt.

particularly on 'Smart' motorways where the spped limit can be dropped as
low as 20mph.

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In article 6, John
wrote:
My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on motorways.
Strangely there is no option to set a speed limiter, although the car
does read spead limit signs.

including the ones on overhead gantries?

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On 13/12/2019 13:24, Jethro_uk wrote:
....
When I got the car, I thought I'd use the cruise control (it's adaptive)
all the time on motorways. But it's not really suited to UK driving.

I find mine is very useful on the continent, but, as you say, it isn't
that useful in the UK.

However, the speed limiter is permanently on. If it auto-adjusted (I had
a hire car which did) it would be perfect.

My only grumble (and no one has ever explained it logically - especially
when the demister survives a power cycle) is when the car is started,
it's always "off". So if you forget to engage it after driving off, it's
useless...

Mine always returns to the same state it was in (on or off) when I
turned the ignition off, although it still needs a speed to be set.

I did have a hire car that set its speed limiter according to what it
thought the speed limit was. However, it was not always right and then I
needed to disconnect it until it showed the correct limit on the
display. I couldn't find any way to change the limit it worked to, apart
from being able to adjust +/- 5mph (and no more) from the speed it
thought it should be doing.

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charles wrote in
:

In article 6, John
wrote:
My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on motorways.
Strangely there is no option to set a speed limiter, although the car
does read spead limit signs.

including the ones on overhead gantries?


Not checked that!

On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato based)
has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base (it's
a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what it did?

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On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base (it's
a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what it
did?

overheated and blew a head gasket


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On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base (it's
a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what it
did?


The back doors of the van opened.

The giant electric fire (for which you needed a LWB van, so it must have
been pretty big) dropped out of the van.

The giant electric fire is on castors, and it ran off back down Woodhead
Pass.

You sent the apprentice running back down Woodhead Pass to try to at
least slow down the giant electric fire.

At this time of year, there's ice on Woodhead Pass, and the apprentice
started to slide down.

The fully laden oil tanker coming up Woodhead Pass, faced with a giant
electric fire and an apprentice at speed .....



Anyway, the main point is where are you being held, and do you need a
hand to arrange legal representation? Don't say anything until you have
spoken to your solicitor. Blame Fiat!

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

A drawing pin inside your right shoe ? :-)

On 13/12/2019 12:12, alan_m wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]



Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.


My neighbours New Auris hybrid seems to be able to
'read' speed limit signs and alter the speedo to
indicate the maximum allowed in that location.

Not sure if this is GPS or a camera.

On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base (it's
a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what it
did?


Refueled itself from the Adblu pump ?

On 13/12/2019 18:33, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base
(it's a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what
it did?


Refueled itself from the Adblu pump ?

Only the works Ford Ranger needs Adblue.

Although one of the apprentices once filled my washer bottle with it.

It just died on me.



--
Adam

On 13/12/2019 17:44, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base
(it's a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what
it did?


The back doors of the van opened.

The giant electric fire (for which you needed a LWB van, so it must have
been pretty big) dropped out of the van.

The giant electric fire is on castors, and it ran off back down Woodhead
Pass.

You sent the apprentice running back down Woodhead Pass to try to at
least slow down the giant electric fire.

At this time of year, there's ice on Woodhead Pass, and the apprentice
started to slide down.

The fully laden oil tanker coming up Woodhead Pass, faced with a giant
electric fire and an apprentice at speed .....



Anyway, the main point is where are you being held, and do you need a
hand to arrange legal representation? Don't say anything until you have
spoken to your solicitor. Blame Fiat!

My solicitor is a stunner and she always wears a short skirt.

This is the fire I was fitting

Gazco eRelex 195R inset fire.


https://www.flames.co.uk/electric-fi...flex-195r.html

--
Adam

On 13/12/2019 18:27, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

A drawing pin inside your right shoe ? :-)

I speed MOST the time.

The OP must be unlucky to have been caught 3 times.



--
Adam

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


Eyes, ears, brain, driving lessons.

On 13/12/2019 14:26, Terry Casey wrote:
In article ,
says...

On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?


Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the
life of the device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a
subscription after the first 3 months.)

The speed limits are still checked, its only the cameras that need the
subscription on the low end models.

I don't need the speed camera data, I can see signs and tell how fast I
am going by the car noise and other clues you pick up doing 2 million miles.

On 13/12/2019 15:27, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:26:27 +0000, Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...
[quoted text muted]

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the life of the
device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a subscription after the first
3 months.)

When I had a Garmin, despite having lifetime maps, etc (and my informing
them) it persistently had a road I use sometimes as NSL when it was
actually dropped to 40 in 2010.

Why not update it, they do offer the ability to do so.

On 13/12/2019 17:44, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base
(it's a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what
it did?


The back doors of the van opened.

The giant electric fire (for which you needed a LWB van, so it must have
been pretty big) dropped out of the van.

The giant electric fire is on castors, and it ran off back down Woodhead
Pass.

You sent the apprentice running back down Woodhead Pass to try to at
least slow down the giant electric fire.

At this time of year, there's ice on Woodhead Pass

Trust me it was just raining a bit today:-)

The replacement van needs the date sorting out on the dashcam.

https://youtu.be/zqOX4VvIL0o



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George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go over a
speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

Tim

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In article 93eeda1e-e2cf-4241-a22a-4c32cdf545d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:09:42 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

+1
I use cruise control regularly to relieve me of the tedium of constantly monitoring my speed. When I reach a speed limit change point I just adjust the cruise contro, up or down, as needed. S'easy

My last company car had cruise control but since retiring, my
current car does not.

It isn't universal (or mandatory.)

--

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In article ,
says...

In article ,
Robin wrote:

I suspect you mean "when a person relies on the speed camera alert
feature despite the seller making it abundantly clear it may not be 100%
right, and that it's always the driver's responsibility to check the
speed limit for the road". I rather doubt a UK court would hold that
such a term is unreasonable. Speed limits change and no system of
updating can be expected to be 100% perfect and prompt.

particularly on 'Smart' motorways where the spped limit can be dropped as
low as 20mph.

If someone can miss seeing the very clear illuminated signs on
a motorway, the sooner they lose (or surrender) their licence
the better!

--

Terry

In article , lid
says...

On 13/12/2019 14:26, Terry Casey wrote:

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the
life of the device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a
subscription after the first 3 months.)

As supplied it was on al the time but was a pain.

For example, drive at ~70 in a 70mph zone. Speed varies
slightly up and down but every time it exceeds 70 - increases
up to 71, say - it produces a bong.

All those bongs are a bit of a nuisance, so I turned off the
default and it now only activates near speed cameras and in
areas where mobile units patrol.

In fact, as I don't keep my eyes on the thing for obvious
reasons, (!) the first bong is usually the first time I'm
alerted of the risk.


Tom tom allows up to about 75 before it goes ting!


My previous SatNav was a Tom Tom and the (under/over) speed at
which it gave a warning was user adjustable.



--

Terry

On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 18:29:48 +0000, Andrew wrote:

On 13/12/2019 12:12, alan_m wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed
camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]



Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.


My neighbours New Auris hybrid seems to be able to 'read' speed limit
signs and alter the speedo to indicate the maximum allowed in that
location.

Not sure if this is GPS or a camera.

On my S-Max, it's a camera.


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