On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 17:05:41 +0000, charles wrote:

In article 6, John
wrote:
My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on motorways.
Strangely there is no option to set a speed limiter, although the car
does read spead limit signs.

including the ones on overhead gantries?

My S=Max reads the ones on overhead gantries that are kind of dor matrix
- pretty well.



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On 13/12/2019 21:46, Terry Casey wrote:
In article 93eeda1e-e2cf-4241-a22a-4c32cdf545d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:09:42 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

+1
I use cruise control regularly to relieve me of the tedium of constantly monitoring my speed. When I reach a speed limit change point I just adjust the cruise contro, up or down, as needed. S'easy

My last company car had cruise control but since retiring, my
current car does not.

It isn't universal (or mandatory.)

It's worth checking if it can be added, many cars have most of the
system in place as standard.

I have a Vauxhall Zafira. I suffer from osteo-arthritis and find that
holding the angle for 70mph on a motorway is painful after a while (just
that angle) and so I wanted cruise-control. Adding it cost me £45 and
about half an hour - £20 for the interface and a link to the software to
allow a laptop to talk to the car and £25 for a replacement indicator
stalk with the cruise control buttons on the end.

It took 15 seconds to release the clip, pull out the indicator stalk and
push in the replacement. The rest of the time was taken establishing
communication and figuring out the software to switch on the
cruise-control option in two places.

The software also proved useful when I fitted a tow-bar with a dedicated
towing electrics module and could enable the towing stability and
trailer light monitoring options.

SteveW

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On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:08:12 -0800, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

My car has a speed limiter. Does the trick.


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

But does it track all the speed limit changes ? Few do.

On 13/12/2019 16:27, wrote:


On m'ways mine bongs at each camera above about 65.

Is that bong an over-speed warning or just camera ahead warning?

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Brian Gaff \(Sofa 2\) wrote:
Incidentally if one loses ones licence, can you legally ride an electric
bike? No not me, I'd be bonkers to try.
Brian


Depends.

If it conforms to the regulations for an electrically assisted pedal cycle
which is a motor not exceeding 250 Watts and power assistance cuts out at
15 .5 mph then you dont need a licence in the first place.
About the only difference as far as road regulations go between an ordinary
bike and an electrically assisted one is you have to IIRC be at least 14
years old .

I looked at the rules carefully about 20 years when I wanted something to
get me to and from a pub that was a bit more than walking distance and
wanted to drink a little more than would be wise for a motor vehicle but
nowhere near being drunk.
If I had decided to ride intoxicated enough to gather attention then all
the police could have done is use the old 19th century in origin charge of
being drunk in charge of a bicycle . That relies on the subjective opinion
of a police officer rather than as measured by an intoximeter and they have
no legal right to demand you take the roadside one as that only applies to
motor vehicles and even if it had have been decided I was drunk it still
would not have gained any penalty points or risked my driving licence.*


Many e bikes can exceed the regulations though it isnt obvious especially
ones that can switch between legal
mode and high power for off road use.
In the UK that isnt legal so such a bike is technically a motor vehicle
and using one that is unregistered,
uninsured ,never type approves, no MOT .
Get caught riding one like that then it will affect your driving licence if
you have one.
Many seem to think the small risk of getting caught is worth it though,I
have a mate who regularly bombs along at about 30 mph . I never wanted to
take the risk.


* I believe since then the courts have acquired little known powers to
remove a driving licence for some other offences that do not actually
involve driving ,its use against some illegal immigrants to attempt stop
them working is one. Riding a bike while ****ed is hardly likely to get to
the higher levels of the legal system where that could take place.


GH

On 13/12/2019 21:51, Terry Casey wrote:
In article ,
says...

In article ,
Robin wrote:

I suspect you mean "when a person relies on the speed camera alert
feature despite the seller making it abundantly clear it may not be 100%
right, and that it's always the driver's responsibility to check the
speed limit for the road". I rather doubt a UK court would hold that
such a term is unreasonable. Speed limits change and no system of
updating can be expected to be 100% perfect and prompt.

particularly on 'Smart' motorways where the spped limit can be dropped as
low as 20mph.

If someone can miss seeing the very clear illuminated signs on
a motorway, the sooner they lose (or surrender) their licence
the better!

Actually I did.

I was in the fast lane and there were two walls of artics on my left and
NO speed limit signs on the central reservation.

Fortunatly i guessed from other drivers behaviour..


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On 13/12/2019 21:59, Terry Casey wrote:
In article , lid
says...

On 13/12/2019 14:26, Terry Casey wrote:

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the
life of the device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a
subscription after the first 3 months.)

As supplied it was on al the time but was a pain.

For example, drive at ~70 in a 70mph zone. Speed varies
slightly up and down but every time it exceeds 70 - increases
up to 71, say - it produces a bong.

All those bongs are a bit of a nuisance, so I turned off the
default and it now only activates near speed cameras and in
areas where mobile units patrol.

In fact, as I don't keep my eyes on the thing for obvious
reasons, (!) the first bong is usually the first time I'm
alerted of the risk.


Tom tom allows up to about 75 before it goes ting!


My previous SatNav was a Tom Tom and the (under/over) speed at
which it gave a warning was user adjustable.


I have the go mobile app.

I am not sure that it is.






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On 13/12/2019 22:01, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 17:05:41 +0000, charles wrote:

In article 6, John
wrote:
My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on motorways.
Strangely there is no option to set a speed limiter, although the car
does read spead limit signs.

including the ones on overhead gantries?

My S=Max reads the ones on overhead gantries that are kind of dor matrix
- pretty well.



Does it ever get confused by the speed limit signs on the backs of some
lorries and coaches?

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On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

I used to do high mileage and avoided speeding fines by not speeding!
The use of cruise control set to whatever the prevailing limit was
helped greatly.

Mike

On 14/12/2019 09:15, Muddymike wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

I used to do high mileage and avoided speeding fines by not speeding!
The use of cruise control set to whatever the prevailing limit was
helped greatly.

Mike

my problem was not especially exceeding limits so much as not knowing
what they were!

In Cambridge, for example, there are limits at 50, 40, 30 and 20mph with
very little to indicate which, if you miss the signs.

The satnav "knows". And tings.



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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 08:30:32 +0000, Robin wrote:

On 13/12/2019 22:01, Bob Eager wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 17:05:41 +0000, charles wrote:

In article 6, John
wrote:
My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on motorways.
Strangely there is no option to set a speed limiter, although the car
does read spead limit signs.

including the ones on overhead gantries?

My S=Max reads the ones on overhead gantries that are kind of dor
matrix - pretty well.



Does it ever get confused by the speed limit signs on the backs of some
lorries and coaches?

I have never noticed that happen.

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On 13/12/2019 21:07, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 20:17:38 +0000, dennis@home wrote:

On 13/12/2019 15:27, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:26:27 +0000, Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...
[quoted text muted]

My Garmin has and the speed camera data is updated for the life of the
device as well as the maps. (Tom Tom want a subscription after the
first 3 months.)

When I had a Garmin, despite having lifetime maps, etc (and my
informing them) it persistently had a road I use sometimes as NSL when
it was actually dropped to 40 in 2010.

Why not update it, they do offer the ability to do so.

I did use the lifetime maps update to keep it up to date. My point is it
was out of date for years.


So update their data.

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 18:10:39 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

But does it track all the speed limit changes ? Few do.

Oh, ****! And this thread was Rodent-free, so far! tsk

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On 14/12/2019 09:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/12/2019 09:15, Muddymike wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:


I used to do high mileage and avoided speeding fines by not speeding!
The use of cruise control set to whatever the prevailing limit was
helped greatly.

Mike

my problem was not especially exceeding limits so much as not knowing
what they were!


Its always baffled me why the speed limit is not shown on the same post
as speed cameras. I often see speed signs and speed camera warning signs
on the same post but have never noticed the speed being posted on the
actual camera.

On occasions I have been guilty of heavy braking on spotting a camera
simply because I'm not confident I'm driving within the prevailing limit.

Mike

Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:32:59 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go over
a speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

I suspect the OP doesn't actually give a **** about going over the speed
limit - just getting caught.


WAZE warns you about fixed cameras as well. Not much use for mobile ones
though.

Tim



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On 13/12/2019 19:23, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 18:27, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

A drawing pin inside your right shoe ? :-)

I speed MOST the time.

So do I.


The OP must be unlucky to have been caught 3 times.


You drive fast and think, he drives fast.

On 14/12/2019 11:16, Muddymike wrote:
On 14/12/2019 09:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/12/2019 09:15, Muddymike wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:


I used to do high mileage and avoided speeding fines by not speeding!
The use of cruise control set to whatever the prevailing limit was
helped greatly.

Mike

my problem was not especially exceeding limits so much as not knowing
what they were!


Its always baffled me why the speed limit is not shown on the same post
as speed cameras. I often see speed signs and speed camera warning signs
on the same post but have never noticed the speed being posted on the
actual camera.

On occasions I have been guilty of heavy braking on spotting a camera
simply because I'm not confident I'm driving within the prevailing limit.

Mike

Traffic cameras create jobs in the public sector. Jobs that wopuld be
lost if people obeyed the speed limits and didnt get caught


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Theres a mighty big difference between good, sound reasons and reasons
that sound good.

Burton Hillis (William Vaughn, American columnist)

On 14/12/2019 11:24, Tim+ wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:32:59 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go over
a speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

I suspect the OP doesn't actually give a **** about going over the speed
limit - just getting caught.


WAZE warns you about fixed cameras as well. Not much use for mobile ones
though.


The TomTom Go app will flag temporay cameras and ask you if they are
still there. Conversely there is a button to report a mobile speed camera...

Tim





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On 14/12/2019 13:10, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:24:31 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:32:59 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed
camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go
over a speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

I suspect the OP doesn't actually give a **** about going over the
speed limit - just getting caught.


WAZE warns you about fixed cameras as well. Not much use for mobile ones
though.

How about average speed cameras ? Now appearing on an A road near you

TomTom Go does those as well and shows your average speed over the section


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On 13/12/2019 19:13, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:44, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base
(it's a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what
it did?


The back doors of the van opened.

The giant electric fire (for which you needed a LWB van, so it must
have been pretty big) dropped out of the van.

The giant electric fire is on castors, and it ran off back down
Woodhead Pass.

You sent the apprentice running back down Woodhead Pass to try to at
least slow down the giant electric fire.

At this time of year, there's ice on Woodhead Pass, and the apprentice
started to slide down.

The fully laden oil tanker coming up Woodhead Pass, faced with a giant
electric fire and an apprentice at speed .....



Anyway, the main point is where are you being held, and do you need a
hand to arrange legal representation? Don't say anything until you
have spoken to your solicitor. Blame Fiat!

My solicitor is a stunner and she always wears a short skirt.

This is the fire I was fitting

Gazco eRelex 195R inset fire.


https://www.flames.co.uk/electric-fi...flex-195r.html


"I understand the Safeguarding Statement
& confirm installation will be carried out
by a qualified installer and wish to proceed:" !!!! Spoilsports.

On 13/12/2019 18:53, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 18:33, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base
(it's a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what
it did?


Refueled itself from the Adblu pump ?

Only the works Ford Ranger needs Adblue.

Although one of the apprentices once filled my washer bottle with it.

It just died on me.




There is an article on the DT website where someone filled UP the
tank on their *petrol* car with Adblu. OMG, how do you do that ?

On Friday, 13 December 2019 18:29:56 UTC, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:12, alan_m wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]



Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.


My neighbours New Auris hybrid seems to be able to
'read' speed limit signs and alter the speedo to
indicate the maximum allowed in that location.

Not sure if this is GPS or a camera.

Got the same on a Yaris I drive quite often. Seems OK most of the time (definitely camera-based) but every so often simply makes up its mind the speed limit is something other than what it really is. For example, says it is 30 in a 40 zone. Usually corrects at next sign, but not always.

Also, does not know the difference between national speed limit on a dual carriageway and on other raods - just shows a derestricted (NSL) sign.

I also think it can get speed wrong where the limit is implied by street lighting.

Jethro_uk wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:

How about average speed cameras ?

TomTom Go does those as well and shows your average speed over the
section

Interesting, but of little practical use surely ? So you enter a
monitored stretch of road do 10 mph over the limit for a bit, and then
realise you have to finish the last mile 10mph *under* the limit ?

Does the tomtom really have enough information to know e.g. which camera
locations act as entry and exit points into different average zones?
Which I gather can operate differently per lane ...

Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:24:31 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:32:59 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed
camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go
over a speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

I suspect the OP doesn't actually give a **** about going over the
speed limit - just getting caught.


WAZE warns you about fixed cameras as well. Not much use for mobile ones
though.

How about average speed cameras ? Now appearing on an A road near you



Average speed cameras are fixed ones. We have heaps near me. It seems to
get updated pretty quickly about temporary average speed cameras in
sections of roadworks.

Tim

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On 14/12/2019 14:12, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 18:53, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 18:33, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 17:26, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 15:09, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 14:42, Brian Reay wrote:


Some cars have a function built in - our motorhome (Fiat Ducato
based) has and I think the Outlander has.

It's a Fiat, so there's no danger of it working. ;-)


Had a different van today for work as I needed the long wheel base
(it's a big electric fire I was fitting).

It's another Fiat Scudo. Halfway across the Woodhead pass guess what
it did?


Refueled itself from the Adblu pump ?

Only the works Ford Ranger needs Adblue.

Although one of the apprentices once filled my washer bottle with it.

It just died on me.




There is an article on the DT website where someone filled UP the
tank on their *petrol* car with Adblu. OMG, how do you do that ?

Put the adblue pump into the petrol tank?

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On 14/12/2019 11:16, Muddymike wrote:
On 14/12/2019 09:58, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 14/12/2019 09:15, Muddymike wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:


I used to do high mileage and avoided speeding fines by not speeding!
The use of cruise control set to whatever the prevailing limit was
helped greatly.

Mike

my problem was not especially exceeding limits so much as not knowing
what they were!


Its always baffled me why the speed limit is not shown on the same post
as speed cameras. I often see speed signs and speed camera warning signs
on the same post but have never noticed the speed being posted on the
actual camera.

On occasions I have been guilty of heavy braking on spotting a camera
simply because I'm not confident I'm driving within the prevailing limit.


The ones around here have a speed limit sign with a picture of a speed
camera on the last lamp post before the camera.

If you have not spotted the speed camera by that point then you deserve
the points:-)

--
Adam

John wrote

My car has Adaptive Cruise Control and I use it always on
motorways. Strangely there is no option to set a speed
limiter, although the car does read spead limit signs.

Yeah,, there as plenty of stupid implementations.

NOT ONE actually uses an online database of speed
limits and read speed limit signs for the temporary
one for road works or with the motorways that change
the speed limit based on the weather and traffic.

Plenty of the satnav apps do use an online database.

That will change now that the EU has mandated that
they all have to use an online database.

"Andrew" wrote in message
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On 13/12/2019 12:12, alan_m wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]



Some Satnat units have an over-speed warning.


My neighbours New Auris hybrid seems to be able to
'read' speed limit signs and alter the speedo to
indicate the maximum allowed in that location.

Not sure if this is GPS or a camera.

They all do it by camera currently.

Satnav apps do it by database.

"ARW" wrote in message
...
On 13/12/2019 18:27, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

A drawing pin inside your right shoe ? :-)

I speed MOST the time.

Me too. Do you pay the fines or the mob you work for ?

The OP must be unlucky to have been caught 3 times.

On 14/12/2019 11:26, Richard wrote:
On 13/12/2019 19:23, ARW wrote:
On 13/12/2019 18:27, Andrew wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:08, George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
whatÂ* gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

A drawing pin inside your right shoe ? :-)

I speed MOST the time.

So do I.


The OP must be unlucky to have been caught 3 times.


You drive fast and think, he drives fast.

I am not doing too badly ATM. A clean license for a change.

I accept a that a speeding ticket every couple of years goes with job (I
do the mileage).



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On Friday, 13 December 2019 13:09:42 UTC, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 04:08:12 -0800, George Miles wrote:

I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]

My car has a speed limiter. Does the trick.


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

Not London (because I don't ever go there), but I too use adaptive cruise control all the time.

Have been driving long enough to know always to leave a decent gap, etc., but it does make so much driving much more pleasant. I keep my eyes on what is going on outside the car rather than on the speedo.

And Here We Go is my favoured satnav app - largely because it was one of the few that works almost identically on IOS and Android and is "free". It has several speed warning options including allowing a small overspeed.

In reality, I find my car showing 62.5 is reported as 59.9 on satnav - minor variations but consistently pretty close. (No motorways nor any dual carriageways at all within twenty miles of home.)

On 14/12/2019 17:07, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 13:40:58 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 14/12/2019 13:10, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 11:24:31 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:32:59 +0000, Tim+ wrote:

George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed
camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go
over a speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

I suspect the OP doesn't actually give a **** about going over the
speed limit - just getting caught.


WAZE warns you about fixed cameras as well. Not much use for mobile
ones though.

How about average speed cameras ? Now appearing on an A road near you


TomTom Go does those as well and shows your average speed over the
section

Interesting, but of little practical use surely ? So you enter a
monitored stretch of road do 10 mph over the limit for a bit, and then
realise you have to finish the last mile 10mph *under* the limit ?
(Unless you deploy your revolving number plate mechanism to **** with the
5-0 ?) ?

Basically, yes.
If you have done the first bit 10 mph over the limit which you WILL get
a warning about


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On 14/12/2019 17:10, Andy Burns wrote:
Jethro_uk wrote:

The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Jethro_uk wrote:

How about average speed cameras ?

TomTom Go does those as well and shows your average speed over the
section

Interesting, but of little practical use surely ? So you enter a
monitored stretch of road do 10 mph over the limit for a bit, and then
realise you have to finish the last mile 10mph *under* the limit ?

Does the tomtom really have enough information to know e.g. which camera
locations act as entry and exit points into different average zones?
Which I gather can operate differently per lane ...

It seems to, yes.


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other is to refuse to believe what is true.€�

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"Tim+" wrote in message
...
George Miles wrote:
I'm now at 9 points on my driving licence,
what gadgets and apps are there to help me avoid another speed camera?

An audible alert or a big red light please

[george]


I use Waze on my mobile phone. You can set audio alerts when you go over a
speed limit. Its free. Its works well.

But you have to be navigating it wont do that full time.

"Steve Walker" wrote in message
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On 13/12/2019 21:46, Terry Casey wrote:
In article 93eeda1e-e2cf-4241-a22a-4c32cdf545d5
@googlegroups.com, says...

On Friday, December 13, 2019 at 1:09:42 PM UTC, GB wrote:
On 13/12/2019 12:58, Jethro_uk wrote:


I routinely use cruise control, even in London.

+1
I use cruise control regularly to relieve me of the tedium of constantly
monitoring my speed. When I reach a speed limit change point I just
adjust the cruise contro, up or down, as needed. S'easy

My last company car had cruise control but since retiring, my
current car does not.

It isn't universal (or mandatory.)

It's worth checking if it can be added, many cars have most of the system
in place as standard.

I have a Vauxhall Zafira. I suffer from osteo-arthritis and find that
holding the angle for 70mph on a motorway is painful after a while (just
that angle) and so I wanted cruise-control. Adding it cost me £45 and
about half an hour - £20 for the interface and a link to the software to
allow a laptop to talk to the car and £25 for a replacement indicator
stalk with the cruise control buttons on the end.

It took 15 seconds to release the clip, pull out the indicator stalk and
push in the replacement. The rest of the time was taken establishing
communication and figuring out the software to switch on the
cruise-control option in two places.

The best cruise controls allow you to specify how far behind the car
in front of you you want to travel until you decide to overtake one that
is slower than you prefer to be driving at. And read speed limit signs.

The software also proved useful when I fitted a tow-bar with a dedicated
towing electrics module and could enable the towing stability and trailer
light monitoring options.

On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 05:09:17 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


My neighbours New Auris hybrid seems to be able to
'read' speed limit signs and alter the speedo to
indicate the maximum allowed in that location.

Not sure if this is GPS or a camera.

They all do it by camera currently.

Satnav apps do it by database.

Source? ...other than your clinically insane, "all-knowing", senile head,
senile Rodent?

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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 06:08:34 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


The best cruise controls allow you to specify how far behind the car
in front of you you want to travel until you decide to overtake one that
is slower than you prefer to be driving at. And read speed limit signs.

Your sixth attempt in this group ...and still no feedback for you, you
senile Ozzie pest. But you just won't give up! After all, your senile
trolling on Usenet is ALL you've got in your senile "life" (well, then
there's of course your Alexa, the ONLY one who talks to you). LOL

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"You have mentioned Alexa in a couple of threads recently, it is not a real
woman you know even if it is the only thing with a Female name that stays
around around while you talk it to it.
Poor sad git who has to resort to Usenet and electronic devices for any
interaction as all real people run a mile to get away from from you boring
them to death."
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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 04:49:23 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



Yeah,, there as plenty of stupid implementations.

NOT ONE actually uses an online database of speed
limits and read speed limit signs for the temporary
one for road works or with the motorways that change
the speed limit based on the weather and traffic.

Try that in English, senile Ozzietard!

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On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 05:19:19 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:



I speed MOST the time.

Me too.

YOU just TROLL most of the time, senile Rodent! Don't you believe that you
could ever be like others, sociopath! There's NO "me too" for your sick
kind.

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MID:

In article 72e461f0-83c3-4057-998c-
, says...

And Here We Go is my favoured satnav app - largely because it was one of the few that works almost identically on IOS and Android and is "free". It has several speed warning options including allowing a small overspeed.

In reality, I find my car showing 62.5 is reported as 59.9 on satnav - minor variations but consistently pretty close. (No motorways nor any dual carriageways at all within twenty miles of home.)

Speedometers always read high. A good check of a Satnav's
accuracy is to compare the speed shown with those roadside
radar signs you encounter - usually on entering a 30 limit.

My Garmin is always bang on.

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Terry