Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

On 2019-01-27 1:02 p.m., Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill


first figure out what you're trying to say

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.
Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.
Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at 3am
whether it's needed or not.



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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the internet,
I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

There are plenty of remote switches now.
https://www.evehome.com/en/eve-energy

On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:02:45 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

USB operated relays are readily available, and they handle mains.

Or use one of the SONOFF switches - see eBay - that work from an app (can
be hacked to have a webserver instead).

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On 27/01/2019 20:02, Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

time switch
wifi socket

Bob Eager wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

USB operated relays are readily available, and they handle mains.
Or use one of the SONOFF switches - see eBay - that work from an app (can
be hacked to have a webserver instead).

Presumably the need to reboot the modem is because the internet
connection is up the spout when Bill wants to view his CCTV from afar?
So something that can reboot the modem e.g. via SMS would be more helpful?

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 07:17:24 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rot Speed,
the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


There are plenty of remote switches now.
https://www.evehome.com/en/eve-energy

Somebody needs to switch off YOU, you abnormal nym-shifting 85-year-old
senile cretin!

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On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:02:45 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then.

Why?

If it's fallen over and lost the link you won't be able to remotely
do anything.

If a bad line or noise has knocked the speed down ADSL2+ recovers
quite quickly on it's own (unlike ADSL which can take up to 72
hours).

If the modem and/or DSLAM has got it's knickers in a twist over the
required signal to noise level a reboot won't affect that. You need
to start the 10 day training period, this instruction has to come
from your ISP most like as a result of you calling/emailing support
or via a webpage on your account details.

The last is the only one that occurs here. The modem stays up until
either there is a power cut long enough for the UPS to flatten it's
batteries or I switch it off to do "maintenance".

Personally I'd VPN into the home network and access the devices web
interface over that to restart the link or reboot the device. Then
sit nervously waiting for it to come back up...

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Dave.

On 27/01/2019 21:27, dennis@home wrote:
On 27/01/2019 20:02, Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

time switch
wifi socket


Get into the admin screen remotely and reset from there. All my
routers/modems have had reset option in the admin menus.

Examples
https://kb.netgear.com/976/Enabling-...ote-management
http://www.tplink.cl/support/showfaqc5b2.html?id=66
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On 27/01/2019 21:55, Andy Burns wrote:
Bob Eager wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

USB operated relays are readily available, and they handle mains.
Or use one of the SONOFF switches - see eBay - that work from an app (can
be hacked to have a webserver instead).

Presumably the need to reboot the modem is because the internet
connection is up the spout when Bill wants to view his CCTV from afar?
So something that can reboot the modem e.g. via SMS would be more helpful?

Stick a Raspberry Pi with a relay onto the network. Ping an outside
address once every minute and if nothing is returned for 5 consecutive
minutes, use the relay to power cycle the modem/router.

SteveW

Bill Wright expressed precisely :
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the internet, I
need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

A modem with OpenWRT installed as the firmware, will allow the router
to be set to reboot as frequently as you like - hourly, daily, weekly,
or at set times and several times a day.

mains switched outlet controlled by mobile phone?
Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the internet,
I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

Nothing to stop him having two routers though one for the normal stuff and
one that can be power cycled on over the web from a phone.
I'm sure I've seen this done.
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"Graham." wrote in message
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Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.
Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.
Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at 3am
whether it's needed or not.



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On 27/01/2019 20:02, Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill
long piece of string?


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fill the world with fools.€�

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Tim+ wrote:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...%2Fwww.ebay.co.
uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F401456564967

With built-in "deathdapter" [TM]BigClive

These look safer, but stupidly priced.

https://www.isocket.eu/remote-power-on-off-reboot

On 27/01/2019 22:53, Steve Walker wrote:
On 27/01/2019 21:55, Andy Burns wrote:
Bob Eager wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

USB operated relays are readily available, and they handle mains.
Or use one of the SONOFF switches - see eBay - that work from an app
(can
be hacked to have a webserver instead).

Presumably the need to reboot the modem is because the internet
connection is up the spout when Bill wants to view his CCTV from afar?
So something that can reboot the modem e.g. via SMS would be more
helpful?

Stick a Raspberry Pi with a relay onto the network. Ping an outside
address once every minute andÂ* if nothing is returned for 5 consecutive
minutes, use the relay to power cycle the modem/router.


That is a good answer. Heartbeats are a reliable technique to ensure
server availability.

The thing that wasn't obvious to me is the relay mains switch, easy to
wire it up, but I don't know how to enclose it safely. I can do a home
made box and sticky tape but is there anything more professional?

Even the ready made wifi devices like Sonoff are not something I would
want lying around, in the open, if they were using main power.

On 27/01/2019 20:04, % wrote:
On 2019-01-27 1:02 p.m., Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill


first figure out what you're trying to say

Just for you, here's a clarification: **** off.

Bill

On 27/01/2019 20:16, Graham. wrote:

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.

How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is with
the router?

Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.


How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is with
the ISP?

Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at 3am
whether it's needed or not.

That would work, but ideally I need to power cycle it as soon as it
stops working.

Bill

On 28/01/2019 10:12, Andy Burns wrote:
Tim+ wrote:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m...%2Fwww.ebay.co.
uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F401456564967

With built-in "deathdapter" [TM]BigClive

These look safer, but stupidly priced.

https://www.isocket.eu/remote-power-on-off-reboot

That looks very promising.

Bill

On 27/01/2019 20:02, Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Every time you re-boot your modem it has to go through the re-training.
There must be a reason for failing. I had an issue for many years and
eventually tied it down to the Draytek router was randomly dropping my
main ZEN connection and switching to Plusnet on failover. Took a re-boot
to get Zen back up again. Only found out that the router was the cause
when I plugged an old, suspected to be faulty router in while waiting
for a replacement to arrive and everything just worked. Nothing's fallen
over or needed re-booting for a good 6 months now.

I'd replace modem first as they're cheap as chips and then replace
router if you still have issues. Always good to have a spare router
pre-configured for hot-swap diagnostics.

In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Could your problem be caused by sudden dips in the mains voltage (brown
outs)? I often used to find that my modem needed a power reset in the
morning. I bought a UPS and fed the modem from that - problem solved.

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On 27/01/2019 20:49, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:02:45 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

USB operated relays are readily available, and they handle mains.

Or use one of the SONOFF switches - see eBay - that work from an app (can
be hacked to have a webserver instead).


Sonoff would be good, hack it to ping an external site and turn off and
on if it can't ping to reset the router.

On 28/01/2019 14:59, dennis@home wrote:
On 27/01/2019 20:49, Bob Eager wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:02:45 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

USB operated relays are readily available, and they handle mains.

Or use one of the SONOFF switches - see eBay - that work from an app (can
be hacked to have a webserver instead).


Sonoff would be good, hack it to ping an external site and turn off and
on if it can't ping to reset the router.


https://gist.github.com/ItKindaWorks...a1ffcc947babf7

On 28/01/2019 10:13, Jethro_uk wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:02:45 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

Do you need to reboot at will, or are you finding that long periods
without use lead to something "jamming up" ?

I had the latter problem with a WiFi HP scanner/printer - it really
didn't like being left alone for long periods, and went into a "power
save" mode, which anecdata from the internet suggested was code for "off".

Rather than dick about trawling loads of half-posts everywhere (most of
which suggested it wasn't fixable) I just put a mechanical segment timer
on it, and it power cycles around 3am every day.

Been fine for a few months now.

These wireless doo-dahs are all very well, but I have to admit, I'm loath
to trust them.


Err, if you are going to do that, it will then go through its power up
test and nozzle cleaning routine. In which case, why not just switch it
off when you aren't using it ?.

On 28/01/2019 13:42, charles wrote:
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Could your problem be caused by sudden dips in the mains voltage (brown
outs)? I often used to find that my modem needed a power reset in the
morning. I bought a UPS and fed the modem from that - problem solved.


+1

I run my fridge with a Smiths electronic timer since the electro-mech.
thermostat failed (don't ask).

Every 3 to 4 days all the settings would be lost and it would not run.
The time that this event occurred was randomly through the day,
sometimes occurring many hours before I realised.

Eventually I plugged the Smiths timer into an ex BT surge protector
that came out of a redundant exchange. It has never lost its settings
since.

Quite what this surge protector is filtering out I cannot say. Would
other peoples baby alarms or mains ethernet adapters affect it ?.

My Smiths electronic immersion heater timer never loses its settings
but it is UK made, while the 3-pin plug in variety is Chinese.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:52:53 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

On 27/01/2019 20:16, Graham. wrote:

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.

How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is
with the router?

Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.


How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is
with the ISP?

Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at
3am whether it's needed or not.

That would work, but ideally I need to power cycle it as soon as it
stops working.

Ah, that seems easy - get a small computer (Raspberry Pi Zero) to ping
somewhere reliable like google.com, and if it fails for a few minutes
at a time it can operate a relay to interrupt power to the modem.

On 28/01/2019 11:50, Bill Wright wrote:
On 27/01/2019 20:04, % wrote:
On 2019-01-27 1:02 p.m., Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill


first figure out what you're trying to say

Just for you, here's a clarification: **** off.

Bill

+1

On 28/01/2019 16:57, Rob Morley wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:52:53 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

On 27/01/2019 20:16, Graham. wrote:

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.

How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is
with the router?

Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.


How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is
with the ISP?

Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at
3am whether it's needed or not.

That would work, but ideally I need to power cycle it as soon as it
stops working.

Ah, that seems easy - get a small computer (Raspberry Pi Zero) to ping
somewhere reliable like google.com, and if it fails for a few minutes
at a time it can operate a relay to interrupt power to the modem.


https://youtu.be/boMHq9PBy9M

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sonoff-S2...E/263808543030

Rob Morley wrote:

get a small computer (Raspberry Pi Zero) to ping
somewhere reliable like google.com, and if it fails for a few minutes
at a time it can operate a relay to interrupt power to the modem.

And that will generally only need to be a 12V relay, not mains.

"Harry Bloomfield" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright expressed precisely :
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

A modem with OpenWRT installed as the firmware, will allow the router to
be set to reboot as frequently as you like - hourly, daily, weekly, or at
set times and several times a day.

But that wont work if its gone flat on its face and needs to be rebooted for
that reason.

"Andy Burns" wrote in message
...
Tim+ wrote:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m... 401456564967

With built-in "deathdapter" [TM]BigClive

No deathdapter involved.

These look safer, but stupidly priced.

https://www.isocket.eu/remote-power-on-off-reboot

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 06:47:29 +1100, 2987fr, better known as cantankerous
trolling senile geezer Rot Speed, wrote:


A modem with OpenWRT installed as the firmware, will allow the router to
be set to reboot as frequently as you like - hourly, daily, weekly, or at
set times and several times a day.

But that wont work if its gone flat on its face and needs to be rebooted for
that reason.

LOL! In auto-contradicting mode again, you abnormal senile cretin?

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2987fr wrote:

Tim+ wrote:

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?m... 401456564967

No deathdapter involved.

He's behind you ...

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 18:22:51 +0000
Andy Burns wrote:

Rob Morley wrote:

get a small computer (Raspberry Pi Zero) to ping
somewhere reliable like google.com, and if it fails for a few
minutes at a time it can operate a relay to interrupt power to the
modem.

And that will generally only need to be a 12V relay, not mains.

That's a good point I hadn't considered, but worthwhile if the user is
concerned about remotely (and blindly) switching mains voltage.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 17:14:38 +0000
"dennis@home" wrote:

On 28/01/2019 16:57, Rob Morley wrote:

Ah, that seems easy - get a small computer (Raspberry Pi Zero) to
ping somewhere reliable like google.com, and if it fails for a few
minutes at a time it can operate a relay to interrupt power to the
modem.

https://youtu.be/boMHq9PBy9M

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sonoff-S2...E/263808543030

But if I were to take that path I already have a spare ESP8266 with
on-board relay, and a few power supplies kicking around. I think I have
an original RPi Zero somewhere too - I'd rather used wired networking
for this job.

On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 8:02:47 PM UTC, Bill Wright wrote:
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

Have you tried a new wallwart (if that's what powers it)? I find that the light-weight switch mode ones tend to go flakey after a while. In the case of my modem the symptom is that LAN connections between local computers etc. work fine but the internet connection keeps dropping out. My theory is that the modem needs the full 12v which the PSU struggles to provide but the router portion drops it to 5V through a stabiliser.

Chris

On 27/01/2019 22:34, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sun, 27 Jan 2019 20:02:45 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then.

Why?

If it's fallen over and lost the link you won't be able to remotely
do anything.

But a local device running if this then that could when no longer able
to ping the outside world force power cycling of the router.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Belkin-F7C0...dp/B009SA9Z6S/

Other brands are available.

If a bad line or noise has knocked the speed down ADSL2+ recovers
quite quickly on it's own (unlike ADSL which can take up to 72
hours).

If the modem and/or DSLAM has got it's knickers in a twist over the
required signal to noise level a reboot won't affect that. You need
to start the 10 day training period, this instruction has to come
from your ISP most like as a result of you calling/emailing support
or via a webpage on your account details.

From time to time I have found mine gets into a state where the noise
margin in one direction is "0" but it still thinks it has valid sync. It
is a bit annoying that the error seconds visibly count up in realtime
but the thing isn't smart enough to reboot itself. My line does have
some issues being a rural overhead one with trees and an underground
section that is quite often flooded.

The last is the only one that occurs here. The modem stays up until
either there is a power cut long enough for the UPS to flatten it's
batteries or I switch it off to do "maintenance".

Personally I'd VPN into the home network and access the devices web
interface over that to restart the link or reboot the device. Then
sit nervously waiting for it to come back up...

That won't work if the outside world has vanished. The reason for
wanting to do it is that the router has stopped routing.

A crude time clock to cycle the power at 1am is the cheapest option.

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In article , Graham.
scribeth thus
Like a lot of other people with CCTV that can be viewed over the
internet, I need to remotely power cycle the modem now and then. Ideas?

Bill

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.
Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.
Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at 3am
whether it's needed or not.




Some routers have that built in but if your need is now then use one of
these.

We use them to remote control some equipment they work as;

Ring line - unit answers - enter access code - unit blips "go ahead"
and then use *1# to turn relay One on, and *2# relay Two on etc. and
use #1# 2,3,4 to turn each relay off, all can be set to on or off at
once.

Works very well indeed.

Thats the 4 way one, they do it seems supply single ones now.

https://quasarelectronics.co.uk/Cate...les-telephone-
activated-relay-board-switches
--
Tony Sayer

In article 20190128165722.46e72de5@Mars, Rob Morley
scribeth thus
On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 11:52:53 +0000
Bill Wright wrote:

On 27/01/2019 20:16, Graham. wrote:

Consider changing you router for a more reliable one.

How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is
with the router?

Consider changing your ISP for a more reliable one.


How do I know which is more reliable? How do I know the problem is
with the ISP?

Power your router from a cheap time-switch that power cycles it at
3am whether it's needed or not.

That would work, but ideally I need to power cycle it as soon as it
stops working.

Ah, that seems easy - get a small computer (Raspberry Pi Zero) to ping
somewhere reliable like google.com, and if it fails for a few minutes
at a time it can operate a relay to interrupt power to the modem.


Thats if the bloody Pi stays up !...
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Tony Sayer